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Vanderjagt-At valley Ranch (1 Viewer)
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Urinal Mint
Footballguy
I honestly hope they don't spend more than $2M/yr on the guy.
Truthfully, I wish they had made a stronger push for Josh Brown.
Truthfully, I wish they had made a stronger push for Josh Brown.
Ridgelake
Footballguy
I have a hard time in Vandy at Dallas for two reasons:
First, he doesnt kick off. Dallas isnt about to sign a third kicker for that role. So signing him would cause lots potential problems on kickoffs and field position.
Second, Vanderjerk + Parcells = oil + water. Thats really an odd pair, moreso that TO and Tuna.
I'm dissappointed that Dallas didnt make a run at Vinatieri. Given the kickoff situation, I'm hopeful that Dallas will tender Seattle's Josh Brown and give up a 7th rounder. But perhaps Dallas is afraid that Seattle would match and they'd lose Vandy to another team while the tender was in play. Dunno. But Dallas has botched their kicker upgrade this offseason if they have to settle for Vandy.
First, he doesnt kick off. Dallas isnt about to sign a third kicker for that role. So signing him would cause lots potential problems on kickoffs and field position.
Second, Vanderjerk + Parcells = oil + water. Thats really an odd pair, moreso that TO and Tuna.
I'm dissappointed that Dallas didnt make a run at Vinatieri. Given the kickoff situation, I'm hopeful that Dallas will tender Seattle's Josh Brown and give up a 7th rounder. But perhaps Dallas is afraid that Seattle would match and they'd lose Vandy to another team while the tender was in play. Dunno. But Dallas has botched their kicker upgrade this offseason if they have to settle for Vandy.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I would still rather have Josh Brown any day. Even if we have to over pay a little. I think it would be worth it.
I don't have a problem with Vandy coming to town. That will be some personality on this team..... T.O. and Vandy.....
I don't have a problem with Vandy coming to town. That will be some personality on this team..... T.O. and Vandy.....
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Didn't they say that about T.O. too?
Urinal Mint
Footballguy
Can McBriar kick off at all? Maybe the goal is to sign Vanderjagt, boot the balls high and a bit short, and let the coverage team smother the return team with speed. 
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jcool
Footballguy
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I think McBriar kicked off some last year, I am not positive of that though.Can McBriar kick off at all? Maybe the goal is to sign Vanderjagt, boot the balls high and a bit short, and let the coverage team smother the return team with speed.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Ridge,I think it was Indy that didn't want him to Kickoff after his injury as a safe guard. Vandy actually was lobying to get this back. I agree that he is not the greatest kick off guy. It might be a net loss of about 4-5 yards, not a big deal ....imo.
Think of it this way......if he is "Kicking Off" we just scored 7 or 3
.Those "3's" were hard to come by last year.
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Texasmouth
Footballguy
Amen to that.Ridge,I think it was Indy that didn't want him to Kickoff after his injury as a safe guard. Vandy actually was lobying to get this back. I agree that he is not the greatest kick off guy. It might be a net loss of about 4-5 yards, not a big deal ....imo.
Think of it this way......if he is "Kicking Off" we just scored 7 or 3
jcool
Footballguy
Get Vandy! We lost quite a few games last year due to our lack of a kicking game. This will strengthen our team a lot, especially on the offensive side. Of course the loss of Larry Allen weakens our O line, but we have added some depth in the off-season. We now need to look at the defensive side. Get a safety, a linebacker, and a defensive tackle to rotate and the Cowboys will be looking real good.
BlueOnion
Footballguy
You guys cannot be serious about Vandy can you? The guy has 1 clutch field goal attempt in his life and he shanked it. And I don't mean he just shanked it. He folded so bad the kick resembled a Ray Guy coffin-corner punt than an actual field goal attempt.This kicker clearly has some mental issues in big situations for him to short circuit so bad.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
He is the most accurate kicker in NFL history. He missed one long field goal.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Personally, I think he gets a bad rap. No questioned he choked on his last kick last year. Keep in mind that it was a 47 yarder. He is a HUGE upgrade from anything this team had had in years.Is he a bit mouthy...yup. Who cares though??? It's football not debate class.
Think about this.......Our best Special teams play last year was the Missed FG in the Carolina game. Now that is sad!!!!!!!
Bizkiteer
Footballguy
If they get Vanderjerk, Tuna won't be able to cut and p/u another PK during the season. This was one of his favorite things to do and keep his interest. Then again, he could still do that! Here's hoping they sign him to the biggest contract a PK ever got! 
Wow, he'd fit in w/ what they already have for jerks:
Tuna
TO
Vanderjerk
Wow, he'd fit in w/ what they already have for jerks:
Tuna
TO
Vanderjerk
nerangers
Footballguy
I hope Dallas does sign him...I hate that the Patriots lost Adam V, but I would hate it more if Vanderjerk becomes the kicker. Rather get him off the market before the Patriots consider him.
I am hoping the Pats make the push for Josh Brown...He has youth going for him, so you never know what the Pats might do, plus they do have a few extra draft picks this year.
I am hoping the Pats make the push for Josh Brown...He has youth going for him, so you never know what the Pats might do, plus they do have a few extra draft picks this year.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I can't wait until he misses a FG and Owens goes nuts. 
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I don't think there is any way in hell that Vandy gets signed by the Pats. Unlike my beloved Cowboys, the Pats actually avoid guys who have personality disorder of may be bad team mates.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
like Larry Allen when he almost tore off Jse Cortez's head?I can't wait until he misses a FG and Owens goes nuts.
harrycarey
Footballguy
He missed a game-winner against the Dolphins in the playoffs also.. the colts lost in OT. Don't forget missing a game-winner in the regular season against the Pats a year or 2 ago that would've given Indy homefield advantage
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Not quite. Owens is too much of a wuss to ever actually go after someone physically IMO. He'd just trash talk him and then make a rap about it, maybe call a press conference and do some situps i nthe parking lot.like Larry Allen when he almost tore off Jse Cortez's head?I can't wait until he misses a FG and Owens goes nuts.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Didn't he whoop someone's ### in the locker room about a year ago? A guy a little bigger than a kicker IIRC.Not quite. Owens is too much of a wuss to ever actually go after someone physically IMO. He'd just trash talk him and then make a rap about it, maybe call a press conference and do some situps i nthe parking lot.like Larry Allen when he almost tore off Jse Cortez's head?I can't wait until he misses a FG and Owens goes nuts.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I totally agree. I don't think it is Cowboys fans on here not happy, just the usual Cowboys haters running their mouths.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
He kicked the snot out of the AmbASSador (Hugh Douglas). He also chalenged the rest of the team, no takers btw.The hate never stops.Not quite. Owens is too much of a wuss to ever actually go after someone physically IMO. He'd just trash talk him and then make a rap about it, maybe call a press conference and do some situps i nthe parking lot.like Larry Allen when he almost tore off Jse Cortez's head?I can't wait until he misses a FG and Owens goes nuts.
uwgb96
Footballguy
I posted this in the other Vanderjagt/Vinatieri threads as well:
Some things to consider.
Granted, Vinatieri is certainly more prone to bad weather in NE, Buf, NY, but...
Vanderjagt
Indoors 87.6 (127/145)
Outdoors 87.4 (90/103)
Vinatieri
Indoors 94.4 (34/36)
Outdoors 80.4 (229/285)
The big kicks stick in our mind (as they should) and that kick against Pittsburgh was god-awful. I don't know what they consider "close" and "close/late", but...
Vanderjagt
Close 89.1 (90/101)
Close/Late 89.5 (34/38)
Vinatieri
Close 80.0 (136/170)
Close/Late 78.4 (29/37)
Vanderjagt Career Split Stats
Vinatieri Career Split Stats
Some things to consider.
Granted, Vinatieri is certainly more prone to bad weather in NE, Buf, NY, but...
Vanderjagt
Indoors 87.6 (127/145)
Outdoors 87.4 (90/103)
Vinatieri
Indoors 94.4 (34/36)
Outdoors 80.4 (229/285)
The big kicks stick in our mind (as they should) and that kick against Pittsburgh was god-awful. I don't know what they consider "close" and "close/late", but...
Vanderjagt
Close 89.1 (90/101)
Close/Late 89.5 (34/38)
Vinatieri
Close 80.0 (136/170)
Close/Late 78.4 (29/37)
Vanderjagt Career Split Stats
Vinatieri Career Split Stats
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Ah yes, I had forgotten about the Hugh Douglas incident. I guess T.O. is nuts enough to go after somebody. I don't quite remember hearing that T.O. kicked the snot out of Douglas though. Most of the sources were saying that the two both took swings at each other but nobody actually connected.He kicked the snot out of the AmbASSador (Hugh Douglas). He also chalenged the rest of the team, no takers btw.The hate never stops.Not quite. Owens is too much of a wuss to ever actually go after someone physically IMO. He'd just trash talk him and then make a rap about it, maybe call a press conference and do some situps i nthe parking lot.like Larry Allen when he almost tore off Jse Cortez's head?I can't wait until he misses a FG and Owens goes nuts.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Not the way I heard it...... I heard he swung at T.O. and missed and T.O. clocked him.Ah yes, I had forgotten about the Hugh Douglas incident. I guess T.O. is nuts enough to go after somebody. I don't quite remember hearing that T.O. kicked the snot out of Douglas though. Most of the sources were saying that the two both took swings at each other but nobody actually connected.He kicked the snot out of the AmbASSador (Hugh Douglas). He also chalenged the rest of the team, no takers btw.The hate never stops.Not quite. Owens is too much of a wuss to ever actually go after someone physically IMO. He'd just trash talk him and then make a rap about it, maybe call a press conference and do some situps i nthe parking lot.like Larry Allen when he almost tore off Jse Cortez's head?I can't wait until he misses a FG and Owens goes nuts.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
For argument sake even if TO held his own.....pretty impressive against a bigger HD.Owens is a lot of negative things, WUSS is not one of them ...imo.Ah yes, I had forgotten about the Hugh Douglas incident. I guess T.O. is nuts enough to go after somebody. I don't quite remember hearing that T.O. kicked the snot out of Douglas though. Most of the sources were saying that the two both took swings at each other but nobody actually connected.He kicked the snot out of the AmbASSador (Hugh Douglas). He also chalenged the rest of the team, no takers btw.The hate never stops.Not quite. Owens is too much of a wuss to ever actually go after someone physically IMO. He'd just trash talk him and then make a rap about it, maybe call a press conference and do some situps i nthe parking lot.like Larry Allen when he almost tore off Jse Cortez's head?I can't wait until he misses a FG and Owens goes nuts.
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TO & Hugh Throw Down
From Yahoo:
Nov 6 Mark Eckel, of the Trenton Times, reports Philadelphia Eagles WR Terrell Owens had a fistfight with former defensive end and current team ambassador Hugh Douglas. The fight occurred in front of several of his teammates. According to one of the sources the Owens-Douglas fight "was like WWE Smackdown." Another source said both men threw at least two punches during the altercation and when it was over Owens challenged QB Donovan McNabb first and then everyone else in the room saying, "You want some. Anyone else want some." The Eagles refused to comment about the situation, other than the statement that revealed Owens' suspension. Owens and Douglas have been at odds since training camp and almost got into an altercation in an elevator at Lehigh University.
Wow. That has to be a whole lot better than WWE Smackdown. I'd put my money on Owens. Supposedly this little scrap took place on Wednesday. You can read Eckel's article in the Trenton Times here.
Foxsports has a great recap of the fight:
Those present told FOXSports.com, while Owens was in the pool rehabilitating his injured ankle, Douglas came into the area and began to get on the outspoken wide receiver. The two jawed back and forth before, believe it or not, Owens got out of the pool and went to get his sneakers on in order to get traction to throw some blows.
When he came back, with shoes on, Owens and Douglas started swinging. Douglas threw a shot, which missed, then Owens threw five or six punches and landed a couple.
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Texasmouth
Footballguy
Even if T.O. can beat up the whole team, I'll still take Vanderboy over any kicker we have had here in a decade....
kellumsboys
Footballguy
he won't complain about the missed kick.he will complain that they attempted a kick instead of "throwing him the damn ball".Not quite. Owens is too much of a wuss to ever actually go after someone physically IMO. He'd just trash talk him and then make a rap about it, maybe call a press conference and do some situps i nthe parking lot.like Larry Allen when he almost tore off Jse Cortez's head?I can't wait until he misses a FG and Owens goes nuts.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
According to this "scetchy" site. He has signed.
http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/2006Draft.html
As I said earlier, I think will happen. Although this is a less than credible source. Waiting for one of the big boys to report it.
http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/2006Draft.html
As I said earlier, I think will happen. Although this is a less than credible source. Waiting for one of the big boys to report it.
Mike Herman
Footballguy
Mike Herman
Footballguy
Mike Herman
Footballguy
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
ESPN Radio (The HERD) reports that Vandy is now a Cowboy.
nerangers
Footballguy
Please be true, please be true....Rather see him with Dallas than the Pats.Jagt Up? Cowboys Closing In On Deal With Veteran Vanderjagt
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Boston
Footballguy
Agreed. I know we need a kicker badly but I have absolutely no desire to root for this dope.Please be true, please be true....Rather see him with Dallas than the Pats.Jagt Up? Cowboys Closing In On Deal With Veteran Vanderjagt
