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Very cool Aaron Rodgers interview (1 Viewer)
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identikit
Footballguy
here's a story and some excerpts from the interview:
Aaron Rodgers Rips Kornheiser, Jaworski
Green Bay Packers’ quarterback Aaron Rodgers doesn’t think too highly of two-thirds of last season’s Monday Night Football team.
In an interview with ESPN Radio in Milwaukee, Rodgers ripped commentator Tony Kornheiser.
“You know who was better than Tony Kornheiser? Dennis Miller was ten times better,” Rodgers said. “Dennis Miller was a great comedian, but one of the worst Monday Night Football guys ever. And he was ten times better than Tony Kornheiser. His stuff was actually funny. Tony wasn’t funny at all. He did absolutely no research. We’d sit in those production meetings and he would add absolutely nothing to the conversation. I’d be like, ‘What are we doing here? This is stupid.’”
“You get in there with Tony and he’s asking you all these dumb questions that have no application to the game you are playing or anything you are doing,” Rodgers said. “He’s terrible. . . . I don’t think he’s funny. I don’t think he’s insightful. I don’t think he knows, really, anything about sports.”
If you watched any Monday Night Football games last season, you’d know Rodgers is right. Kornheiser was terrible. It was like he talked just to hear himself talk. He added nothing to the game.
Still, it’s interesting to hear a high-profile athlete call out someone who’s going to be talking about them in the media. From what I hear, Kornheiser is the type of guy to hold a grudge.
He’s also the type of guy who reads his own press, so Rodgers should probably expect regular bashing on Kornheiser’s radio show and Pardon The Interuption, where Kornheiser is a co-host, along with the much more level-headed and insightful Michael Wilbon.
Anyway, Kornheiser sucks — you get the picture.
Rodgers also had some words for Monday Night Football analyst and former Philadelphia Eagles’ quarterback Ron Jaworski.
“I like him, but, when I was coming out, he did the worst segment in the history of TV about me talking about my fundamentals,” Rodgers said of Jaworski. “It was not even close to anywhere near my fundamentals. The first time I met him, someone introduced me to him and I said, ‘Yeah I know him. He’s the guy who ripped me before the draft.’ The rest of the night he told me how great I was. I was like, ‘I know your song and dance.’ And now he loves me.”
Ah yes, the duplicitous nature of Jaws.
http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/06/08/aar...eiser-jaworski/
Aaron Rodgers Rips Kornheiser, Jaworski
Green Bay Packers’ quarterback Aaron Rodgers doesn’t think too highly of two-thirds of last season’s Monday Night Football team.
In an interview with ESPN Radio in Milwaukee, Rodgers ripped commentator Tony Kornheiser.
“You know who was better than Tony Kornheiser? Dennis Miller was ten times better,” Rodgers said. “Dennis Miller was a great comedian, but one of the worst Monday Night Football guys ever. And he was ten times better than Tony Kornheiser. His stuff was actually funny. Tony wasn’t funny at all. He did absolutely no research. We’d sit in those production meetings and he would add absolutely nothing to the conversation. I’d be like, ‘What are we doing here? This is stupid.’”
“You get in there with Tony and he’s asking you all these dumb questions that have no application to the game you are playing or anything you are doing,” Rodgers said. “He’s terrible. . . . I don’t think he’s funny. I don’t think he’s insightful. I don’t think he knows, really, anything about sports.”
If you watched any Monday Night Football games last season, you’d know Rodgers is right. Kornheiser was terrible. It was like he talked just to hear himself talk. He added nothing to the game.
Still, it’s interesting to hear a high-profile athlete call out someone who’s going to be talking about them in the media. From what I hear, Kornheiser is the type of guy to hold a grudge.
He’s also the type of guy who reads his own press, so Rodgers should probably expect regular bashing on Kornheiser’s radio show and Pardon The Interuption, where Kornheiser is a co-host, along with the much more level-headed and insightful Michael Wilbon.
Anyway, Kornheiser sucks — you get the picture.
Rodgers also had some words for Monday Night Football analyst and former Philadelphia Eagles’ quarterback Ron Jaworski.
“I like him, but, when I was coming out, he did the worst segment in the history of TV about me talking about my fundamentals,” Rodgers said of Jaworski. “It was not even close to anywhere near my fundamentals. The first time I met him, someone introduced me to him and I said, ‘Yeah I know him. He’s the guy who ripped me before the draft.’ The rest of the night he told me how great I was. I was like, ‘I know your song and dance.’ And now he loves me.”
Ah yes, the duplicitous nature of Jaws.
http://www.totalpackers.com/2010/06/08/aar...eiser-jaworski/
Donnybrook
Footballguy
IMO, it is nice that he is so candid but he comes across as being a little high on himself.
I don't know if any of the other QBs would get involved in a conversation about where they rate amongst the top 5 etc.
I don't know if any of the other QBs would get involved in a conversation about where they rate amongst the top 5 etc.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Rogers needs to be careful. It is the media's job to ask questions, to gamble on their thoughts, to entertain and try and cause commortion.
Rogers should just say just that, I happen to disagree with some of the things they do and or say but that is their job. My job is to continue to get better and make my team better and say the right things.
It is one thing to joke about them and call them out in a joking way but this comes across as Rogers saying "I am awesome."
Rogers should just say just that, I happen to disagree with some of the things they do and or say but that is their job. My job is to continue to get better and make my team better and say the right things.
It is one thing to joke about them and call them out in a joking way but this comes across as Rogers saying "I am awesome."
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
I expected to like it more after seeing the snippet from PFT. I almost felt like he was mumbling alot...
massraider
Footballguy
He needs to be careful?What's the potential damage he's facing? Smarmy words from Kornheiser on his afternoon show? Maybe some tough criticism on Tony's next Monday Night Football appearance? (oh wait, Tony doesn't have that job anymore)Is anyone disagreeing with Aaron? Anyone think Marcellus Wiley adds anything, shows any insight? Anyone think Kornheiser was good, prepared, and/or funny on Monday Night Football? Why should Rodgers 'just say' anything? Players are supposed to just take it, for their entire career, and offer up some milquetoast "Well, I happen to disagree......" every time some guy slams them, or is completely wrong? That basically just means that the media gets a free pass, because they are the press, and people can call them out on tier mistakes, unless the person criticizing them happens to be the one that proved them wrong.I remember Rodgers coming out of college, and I don't remember to many backers, I don't recall too many people saying, "Well, once he gets his chance, he'll be one of the top QBs in the league." Good for him if he wants to call out a guy like Jaworski.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
He needs to be careful because when you get in a war of words with the media it may bring you negative attention that is not needed.
Rogers is not yet at the stage yet where he has accomplished enough to get a pass for this.
Rogers is not yet at the stage yet where he has accomplished enough to get a pass for this.
rizzler
Footballguy
I love when anyone in the spotlight basically tells the media what's up. I absolutely love it. I don't get why 'fans' think athletes or anyone else should just sit there and take it? SO what if they're being payed millions of dollars... that means they have no right to dignity or to defend themselves? Kornheiser is an idiot... I can;t stand the guy... Press 'immunity' is rediculous and I'm glad Rodgers gave him a backhand... I wish more athletes would grow a pair and set a reporter or two straight.buuuuuuuuut thats just me. i also laugh my ### off when Carcillo and sean avery get on the mic. i love brutal, a-holish honesty... it's so refershing in such a 'fake' industry
Jeremy
Footballguy
After the previous Packers QB put his foot in mouth more times than I can count, I'd be super ok with canned answers and cliche's from Rodgers from here on out. Nothing good can come from shooting from the hip like this, even if he's right. It's got to be tough listening to the talking heads show their ignorance over and over again and not challenge it, but he needs to let this stuff go.
Just keep saying you're always trying to get better and good lord willing we'll have a successful season.
Just keep saying you're always trying to get better and good lord willing we'll have a successful season.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
How can anyone like Avery? Also, there are more subtle ways of dealing with the media. Sometimes letting your actions speak louder than your words is the best way. What good will come from Rogers saying something? And any positves that could come out of it there will be a lot more negatives that could occur.You don't think Jaws knows he messed up about his view on Rogers and perhps has already openly admitted it? When is the last time Kornheiser has said something negative about Rogers? Like I said why draw any sort of media that could negatively effect you or the team.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Also, why stop at the media if you are Rogers? Why not tell every fan that beaks you at a game where to go or how good you are. Or every opposition that says something negative about you or the team why not address that?
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I wish more athletes were like this. Listening to the same old "the other team played great" and "we have lots of respect for them" stuff gets old, fast. That's not what they're saying out on the field, and that's not what any of us are saying when playing any competitive sport, even with friends. Guys should be able to say what they want, maybe then at least we'd get some insight as to what's going on instead of every player just taking the "I am Spartacus" route when anything goes wrong. It's ridiculous how no one really cares what any of these guys have to say, just whether or not they're saying what they want them to say.
And then there's the analysts. Analysts have absolutely no accountability. None. Who makes good predictions? Who makes bad ones? Who is right the most, and what percentage to they get right? Nobody knows, because nobody tracks this. An analyst can look right into the camera and say with every fiber of his being that player X will be garbage, or player Y will be a hall of famer, and none of it ever matters because by the time we find out that they're wrong about something no one ever remembers it being said anyway.
And then there's the analysts. Analysts have absolutely no accountability. None. Who makes good predictions? Who makes bad ones? Who is right the most, and what percentage to they get right? Nobody knows, because nobody tracks this. An analyst can look right into the camera and say with every fiber of his being that player X will be garbage, or player Y will be a hall of famer, and none of it ever matters because by the time we find out that they're wrong about something no one ever remembers it being said anyway.
massraider
Footballguy
Nothing like taking it to the Nth degree.Also, not once in that interview did Rodgers say anything about how good he is. He gave the host a little bit, seems there's some history with that guy, and it was more good-natured. When pressed for the best 5 QBs, he didn't even put himself on the list, and refused to compare himself to Romo. Let's look at what he said in that interview:He said Kornheiser wasn't prepared for MNF production meetings, and that he brought nothing. Doubt he's gonna get too much static for that one, unless there's some faction of Kornheiser MNF fanboys that have been reeeeallllly quiet up till now. He said Jaworski was incorrect in his assessment of his mechanics coming out of school. No idea if the criticism was warranted, but any major knocks on Rodgers coming out school don't seem to be to detrimental to his game. He then mentioned that when Jaws met him, he was effusive in his praise, which Rodgers seemed to take as two-faced, and didn't want to hear. Frankly, that's Rodgers right to not be gracious to a guy that was, in his mind, incorrectly knocking him. He questioned Marcellus Wiley's qualifications to knowledgeably discuss QB's on ESPN. I don't know Wiley has ever brought anything to a telecast, and cannot imagine Rodgers getting a lot of static for questioning Marcellus stinkin' Wiley. He praised Trent Dilfer, and Jon Gruden. So where is this negative impact going to come from? Jaworski? Can you imagine Ron Jaworski getting into a media war of words? He's like everyone's happy uncle that just had a few beers. The guy doesn't slam anyone. Kornheiser? Has he even mentioned MNF since he slunk off? I don't think so. I doubt it gets mentioned on PTI, but if it does, it'll get 45 seconds, or whatever amount of time they discuss stuff until that little bell goes off. Marcellus Wiley? Is he still on TV?A distraction that might cause problems in the locker room, I can see that. What I can't see is Rodgers teammates or coaches giving Rodgers are hard time for calling out people that knocked him, and were proven wrong.Rodgers had one of the toughest starts to a career, from a public perception standpoint. He came from a school that was thought to have punped up the numbers of average QB prospects, he was behind a legend, then was caught in the middle of one of the most brutal player/team conflicts, and then had to be compared on a weekly basis to Favre. So he blew off a little steam on a local sports talk radio show. Fine with me. None of the stuff he said was even controversial, it was just honest. We need more players like him.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Kornheiser is the Larry King of sports. Even if Kornheiser knew anything about the game, I wouldn't be worried. Why shouldn't AR call him out for being a doofus in a production meeting. Heck, I'd be insulted if some dipstick came in to meet me and talk about the game and instead ask moronic questions.Besides, I'm sure Rodgers is just quaking in his boots about any Kornheiser "criticism".
AR ought to be more worried that Kornhesier will insult his wife/GF's wardrobe choices.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Rodgers comes across as very thin-skinned and petty to me.
Agree. He does have some valid points but boy does he come off like a petty jerk.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Thin skinned? This is the guy who spent the better part of two years sitting quietly in the middle of this Brett Favre controversy listening to thousands of people talk about how it was stupid to let a legend walk to be replaced by some no named system QB.This is the problem, people take little comments and turn them into character studies of what they believe an entire person's personality must be like. "He said that someone else on the team did something wrong on the play? Oh he must just be a whiney arrogant ##### that can't take responsibility for anything".And that's the reason we get these stupid, boring interviews where everyone just says the same P.C. lines over and over again. Most of the interviews these athletes do are interviews that I could do for them without even watching football. "_______ really played great today, they were really prepared and came ready to play. We just got some balls to bounce our way and played with enough heart to come away with the victory." "Oh, that play that cost us the game? Yeah, that's my fault, I take the blame for that, I've just got to take what I learned there and get better. I'm always striving to get better".Same boring stuff over and over again to appease sensationalists like Plasma.
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Jason Wood
Zoo York
I liked how straightforward he was. He wasn't dismissive for the sake of it, he was asked specifically about certain announcers and he both damned (Kornheiser) and praised. And it shows you how players DO remember what is said about them by the talking heads.
Jeremy
Footballguy
From Twitter:
and if you didn't listened to the show you might assume it was more meanspirited than it really was.
Doesn't sound like he has an ax to grind so much as he was joking around a little bit on the radio. He really should know better, though. People take this stuff pretty seriously
and if you didn't listened to the show you might assume it was more meanspirited than it really was.
strykerpks
Footballguy
From Twitter:
Doesn't sound like he has an ax to grind so much as he was joking around a little bit on the radio. He really should know better, though. People take this stuff pretty seriously
I think massraider mentioned it earlier that there might be some history with Rodgers and Homer giving each other the business.That pretty much sums it up for me. Homer is typically very sarcastic and he doesn't take his show too seriously. I listened to this interview on the way home from work yesterday and never once thought it would get this kind of attention.
Jeremy
Footballguy
Kornheiser is famously thin skinned. I'm sure he'll have something to say.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I'm sick of the PC culture of the athlete responses. It's like they all watched that scene in Bull Durham where Costner takes Robbins aside and tells him how to do an interview and a few minutes later Robbins is saying, "we need to take it one game at a time," yada yada yada. Good for Rodgers even if he came across like a DB. He called a couple spades a couple spades. Both those guys flap their lips and get paid to do it. No one is checking what they are saying and Rodgers did. Good for him. Sure he could've played it less dooshy, but it;s better than "I respectfully disagree with Kornheiser and Jawarski."
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Exactly, if you are going to rip someone do it in a way that will make you come across as smart and not like you yourself are holding a grudge.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Have not listened yet...but is he doing a radio interview on a Milwaukee station? If its the station Im thinking about he does a pretty regular piece on there with the guys and is comfortable with them...might be where he sounds like a d-bag to some people is just him with the guys talking like a normal person.
I don't think he is full of himself...just confident in his abilities...but I can see how he comes off that way to some.
I don't think he is full of himself...just confident in his abilities...but I can see how he comes off that way to some.
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The Kerminator
Footballguy
From Twitter:
Doesn't sound like he has an ax to grind so much as he was joking around a little bit on the radio. He really should know better, though. People take this stuff pretty seriouslyand if you didn't listened to the show you might assume it was more meanspirited than it really was.
I think massraider mentioned it earlier that there might be some history with Rodgers and Homer giving each other the business.That pretty much sums it up for me. Homer is typically very sarcastic and he doesn't take his show too seriously. I listened to this interview on the way home from work yesterday and never once thought it would get this kind of attention.
Listened to the Homer show on my way home from work yesterday as well. There is definitely a history between Homer and Rodgers and a lot of it is one guy egging on the other guy. Homer seems to have the same kind of thing going on with Mark Tauscher.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Those saying he's coming off as "cocky" or "arrogant", umm, he's an NFL QB. There's only 32 of those guys currently starting in the world. If you want to do that and be good at it, you better have some of that "arrogance". Considering how well he's done in his 1st 2 years as a starter, I'd also say he has every right to be cocky because he's got the production to back it up.
two_dollars
Footballguy
SO glad someone didn't just regurgitate the same boring trite drivel that seems to be all too common nowadays.
stugnut
Footballguy
Tony Freakin' Kornhole was the worst thing to happen in sports television in the last 10 years. He never wanted to talk about the game that I was watching. Instead, he wanted to talk about the "stories" that surrounded that game. That's because he didn't know jack ####e about the game so instead he ignored the game and talked around it for those who would rather hear what color of jock strap Favre wears and not about why the defense was showing a certain type of blitz. This just makes me like Rogers even more.
two_dollars
Footballguy
Exactly.. I'm so tired of politics.. in everything.. especially in politics..
roadkill1292
Footballguy
On his radio show yesterday, he called Rodgers an "excellent quarterback."During football season, his co-hosts take great glee in pointing out on a weekly basis how much better Monday Night ratings have been since Gruden took over. It's a running joke on the show.Kornheiser is famously thin skinned. I'm sure he'll have something to say.
Jeremy
Footballguy
Yeah, he took it all in stride. Got to give him props for that.On his radio show yesterday, he called Rodgers an "excellent quarterback."During football season, his co-hosts take great glee in pointing out on a weekly basis how much better Monday Night ratings have been since Gruden took over. It's a running joke on the show.Kornheiser is famously thin skinned. I'm sure he'll have something to say.
Fiddles
Footballguy
im with this guy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Sort of in stride, anyway. He claimed that he was originally critical of the Packers for turning over the reins to Rodgers a year too early, an argument somewhat borne out by the Pack's 6-10 finish in his first year.The Monday Night gig was an extremely poor venue for Kornheiser, as he admits, but I blame ESPN for that. They were trying to capitalize on the popularity of PTI and his radio show, which is the best two hours of radio every day. Sometimes they even talk a little sports.Yeah, he took it all in stride. Got to give him props for that. :XOn his radio show yesterday, he called Rodgers an "excellent quarterback."During football season, his co-hosts take great glee in pointing out on a weekly basis how much better Monday Night ratings have been since Gruden took over. It's a running joke on the show.Kornheiser is famously thin skinned. I'm sure he'll have something to say.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Not really...that team would not have fared much better...if any at all...with Favre at the helm.
Phlash
Footballguy
Great interview, but what interested me the most wasn't him ripping Kornheiser but how he reacted when the hosts wanted to know who his top 5 QBs were. He had two tiers - Brady, the other guys, and then Peyton below them. He was VERY hesitant to put Peyton on the level of Brees/Romo/Philip Rivers, and pretty obviously doesn't think too high of him. He said it in a manner of, yeah, I guess he's good, I have to put him here because people will think I'm crazy otherwise.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The short summary above removes a great amount of context, which is to be expected. Its a 19 minute interview, and Rodgers gives (in my opinion) very specific reasons for his opinions. He referred specifically to the pre-game production meetings and Kornheiser's participation. He questioned Marcellus Wiley's ability to comment on quarterback play. He had very high praise for Tirico and Jaws, and their level of preparation and participation in the meetings (even while making a side comment regarding his first meeting with Jaws, which is highlighed above). I think he comes across as having an opinion that is based in fact and he backs it up pretty well. He also praised Dilfer, Gruden, Aikman, Buck, and Wilbon. http://www.espn1510.com/
gianmarco
Footballguy
All I can say is that he better keep playing well. Typically when you slam one member of the press, they all come after you. Especially once you paint a bulls-eye on your butt. And seeing as how easily swayed the masses are and how easily everyone seems to just take interview clips etc. to be a window into a players true personality, he can easily go from humble Favre replacement to whiny Jay Cutler clone in a single season.
massraider
Footballguy
Heck, I like it.Say what you mean, crank out the standard 'regret' statement to defuse any controversy, and everyone moves on.gianmarco said:
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
Didn't listen to it, so I can just go from the comment made here. Anyone who doesn't think Peyton Manning is one of the best QBs of all time is off their rocker, let alone one of the best QBs in the game today. You don't win multiple MVP awards by mistake. A lot of buzz was made prior to the Super Bowl about Manning's place in history if the Colts go on to win the game. Maybe Rodgers doesn't care for Manning, not sure. But it's poor analysis to say Manning isn't elite tier by any measurement.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
A lot of you guys are too PC.
I am glad he spoke his mind. Don't we live in America?!
I'm a blunt & honest person. I would have done the same. Don't like it? Don't read it or listen to him.
FYI, nice guys finish last.
I am glad he spoke his mind. Don't we live in America?!
I'm a blunt & honest person. I would have done the same. Don't like it? Don't read it or listen to him.
FYI, nice guys finish last.
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Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
I am far from PC. I don't mind guys speaking their mind at all. I think it just needs to be done well. The fact that he has appologized for it shows he knows he went a litte bit over board.A lot of you guys are too PC.I am glad he spoke his mind. Don't we live in America?!
Gopher State
Footballguy
Rogers was basically saying L O O K A T M E
Easy to go from the penthouse to the outhouse as a young NFL QB
Easy to go from the penthouse to the outhouse as a young NFL QB
Manster
Footballguy
wow, he was way mean to kornheiser. kinda comes across like an arrogant doosh.
personally, i liked kornheiser better than miller. miller was wayyyyy too obscure for football fans, or anybody for that matter.
miller was better as a comedian and kornheiser is better on PTI. neither was a fit on MNF.
he's right on with jaws though. annoying know-it-all.
personally, i liked kornheiser better than miller. miller was wayyyyy too obscure for football fans, or anybody for that matter.
miller was better as a comedian and kornheiser is better on PTI. neither was a fit on MNF.
he's right on with jaws though. annoying know-it-all.
