Very difficult fantasy trivia (1 Viewer)

[Chase Stuart]

Since 1970, only one time have the same seven players scored the most fantasy points at their position in consecutive years. In fact, only one other time have more than four players ever scored the most points at their position in consecutive years.

1) Name the seven players to lead their position in fantasy scoring (FBG standard scoring which means 0PPR) in consecutive years. (As you'd imagine, they were not in the same order.)

2) Name the five players to lead their position in fantasy scoring in consecutive years (also not the same scoring).

Good luck.

ETA: Question 1 solved by Yudkin in post 21. Question 2 solved by he Man With No Name at post 36. Additionally, there were only four men. There are no instances with just five players, and only two with four or more.

 

[redman]

What 7 positions? QB, RB, TE, WR, K, . . .

 

[Chase Stuart]

What 7 positions? QB, RB, TE, WR, K, . . .

It's not 7 positions.It would be like Laveranues Coles, Jerricho Cotchery, Brad Smith, Marvin Harrison, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson and Torry Holt are WRs 1-7 in fantasy points in 2007, and then Brad Smith, Jerricho Cotchery, Laveranues Coles, Terrell Owens, Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson and Torry Holt are WRs1-7 in fantasy points in 2008.

 

[Chase Stuart]

What I like about this trivia is even Yudkin and Drinen can participate, I think. Usually I ask Yudkin to stay out, but I don't think he knows this one.

 

[prymetyme25]

I would think that Tony gonzales would have to be 1 of them.

 

[Challenge Everything]

My guess is Rae Carruth.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Without looking it up, I'm going to assume that it is QBs that did this....

Manning, Vick, Bulger, Brees, Palmer, Brady, Kitna(?)?

 

[Chase Stuart]

Without looking it up, I'm going to assume that it is QBs that did this....Manning, Vick, Bulger, Brees, Palmer, Brady, Kitna(?)?

I know most of us can look the answers up, but that will make the thread pretty boring. I like random guesses, so to Jeff (I can't believe I just wrote those words).And, no.

 

[Domination]

Question #2

J Rice, M Faulk, P Holmes, A Gates, & T Gonzalez

That is my guess, but they are mostly recent and I would think that there would be a few from farther back.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Question #2J Rice, M Faulk, P Holmes, A Gates, & T GonzalezThat is my guess, but they are mostly recent and I would think that there would be a few from farther back.

They have to be all from the same position.Question 1 and Question 2 are the same. There have only been two instances in fantasy history where the same five or more players led their position in fantasy scoring in consecutive years. Once it was five, the other time, seven.

 

[ravnzfan]

Without looking it up, I'm going to assume that it is QBs that did this....

Manning, Vick, Bulger, Brees, Palmer, Brady, Kitna(?)?

I know most of us can look the answers up, but that will make the thread pretty boring. I like random guesses, so to Jeff (I can't believe I just wrote those words).And, no.

was Jeff at least correct in assuming it was QB's

 

[Domination]

Question #2J Rice, M Faulk, P Holmes, A Gates, & T GonzalezThat is my guess, but they are mostly recent and I would think that there would be a few from farther back.

They have to be all from the same position.Question 1 and Question 2 are the same. There have only been two instances in fantasy history where the same five or more players led their position in fantasy scoring in consecutive years. Once it was five, the other time, seven.

Whoops.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Without looking it up, I'm going to assume that it is QBs that did this....

Manning, Vick, Bulger, Brees, Palmer, Brady, Kitna(?)?

I know most of us can look the answers up, but that will make the thread pretty boring. I like random guesses, so to Jeff (I can't believe I just wrote those words).And, no.

was Jeff at least correct in assuming it was QB's

Way too early to be giving hints.

 

[Raptors]

Can we at least assume that some of us would have been playing fantasy football during this time? I'd hazard a guess that less than 5% of this board even watched football in the 70s, let alone played ff. And if the answers stem from the 70s, I'd have no clue. I assume they do, or you would not have mentioned 1970 in your post.

 

[KTM]

Without looking it up, I'm going to assume that it is QBs that did this....Manning, Vick, Bulger, Brees, Palmer, Brady, Kitna(?)?

I think you have the right idea with it being QBs but I think you missed this part:

consecutive years

Kitna didn't start in 2005.My WAG is from 1999, 2000, or 2001...Can't remember the exact span.Warner/Manning/Favre/Gannon/Garcia/McNabb/Brooks

 

[Titans_fan]

What the heck, I'll hazard a guess...

Montana, Marino, Simms, Theismann, Elway, Kelly, Moon for question #1?

 

[redman]

What the heck, I'll hazard a guess...

Montana, Marino, Simms, Theismann, Elway, Kelly, Moon for question #1?

Theismann was injured and his career ended in 1985, Moon's first year in the NFL IIRC. Let me try another, similar combo though:

Montana, Marino, Everett, Elway, Kelly, Moon, Kosar for question #1?

 

[stevegamer]

I think we're looking for (in at least one case) a more obscure position, like TE. There seems to be too much fluctuation at PK for it to be correct - but that's probably why this answer will be amazing.

I keep thinking about QB, and there's usually a guy who has one crazy good season - Stewart, Mitchell, etc.

 

[cobalt_27]

Well, I think I know one of the answers:

2003-2004 QBs:

Culpepper

Manning

Green

Bulger

Brooks

Am I right, sort of?

 

[David Yudkin]

Well, I think I know one of the answers:2003-2004 QBs:CulpepperManningGreenBulgerBrooksAm I right, sort of?

No. 2003Daunte CulpepperPeyton ManningTrent Green Matt HasselbeckAaron Brooks 2004Daunte Culpepper Peyton ManningDonovan McNabbTrent Green Jake Plummer I am fairly confident QB is not one of the positions.

 

[David Yudkin]

I think we're looking for (in at least one case) a more obscure position, like TE.

Yes.1993Shannon SharpeEric GreenBen CoatesJohnny MitchellKeith JacksonBrent JonesPete Metzelaars1994Ben CoatesShannon SharpeBrent JonesKeith JacksonJohnny MitchellEric GreenPete Metzelaars

 

[nygiants56]

I think we're looking for (in at least one case) a more obscure position, like TE.

Yes.1993Shannon SharpeEric GreenBen CoatesJohnny MitchellKeith JacksonBrent JonesPete Metzelaars1994Ben CoatesShannon SharpeBrent JonesKeith JacksonJohnny MitchellEric GreenPete Metzelaars

got in on this late, but what about Steve Young, Emmitt Smith, Ben Coates, Sterling Sharpe, Terrell Davis?

 

[nygiants56]

I think we're looking for (in at least one case) a more obscure position, like TE.

Yes.1993Shannon SharpeEric GreenBen CoatesJohnny MitchellKeith JacksonBrent JonesPete Metzelaars1994Ben CoatesShannon SharpeBrent JonesKeith JacksonJohnny MitchellEric GreenPete Metzelaars

lets also try, Rich Gannon

 

[David Yudkin]

I think we're looking for (in at least one case) a more obscure position, like TE.

Yes.1993Shannon SharpeEric GreenBen CoatesJohnny MitchellKeith JacksonBrent JonesPete Metzelaars1994Ben CoatesShannon SharpeBrent JonesKeith JacksonJohnny MitchellEric GreenPete Metzelaars

got in on this late, but what about Steve Young, Emmitt Smith, Ben Coates, Sterling Sharpe, Terrell Davis?

You are missing the intent of the question. ALL of the players AT THE SAME POSITION had to rank in the top 5 or top 7 FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. So the Top 7 TE from 1993 WERE THE SAME PLAYERS in the TOP 7 in 1994.

 

[DropKick]

Off the cuff guess..

Moss, Carter, Bruce, Owens, Harrison

 

[Chase Stuart]

I think we're looking for (in at least one case) a more obscure position, like TE.

Yes.1993

Shannon Sharpe

Eric Green

Ben Coates

Johnny Mitchell

Keith Jackson

Brent Jones

Pete Metzelaars

1994

Ben Coates

Shannon Sharpe

Brent Jones

Keith Jackson

Johnny Mitchell

Eric Green

Pete Metzelaars

:X Very nice job, David. It's pretty incredible that the same seven TEs were atop the leaderboard in consecutive years.

But you know the really amazing part? Not only is 1993-1994 the only pair of years where the top 7 stayed the same, and not only were the top 6 or 5 never the same in consecutive years, but neither were the top 3...or even top 2. 1993-1994 is the only pair of years where the top TWO TEs remained the same. Incredible.

 

[Chase Stuart]

FWIW, every other answer so far is incorrect. Still trying to five that group of five.

 

[stevegamer]

I think we're looking for (in at least one case) a more obscure position, like TE.

Yes.1993Shannon SharpeEric GreenBen CoatesJohnny MitchellKeith JacksonBrent JonesPete Metzelaars1994Ben CoatesShannon SharpeBrent JonesKeith JacksonJohnny MitchellEric GreenPete Metzelaars

That's one of TE eras I was thinking of might be possible, but Pete Metzelaars? Wow.Top 5 should, in theory, be easier as less studs are needed.

 

[Chase Stuart]

1993-1994 is the only pair of years where the top TWO TEs remained the same. Incredible.

Runners up:2002:

TE1. Heap

TE2. Gonzalez

2003:

TE1. Gonzalez

TE2. Sharpe

TE3. Heap

2000:

TE1. Gonzalez

TE2. Sharpe

2001:

TE1. Gonzalez

TE2. Pollard

TE3. Sharpe

1997:

TE1. Sharpe

TE2. Coates

1998:

TE1. Sharpe

TE2. Cleeland

TE3. Coates

1986:

TE1. Christensen

TE2. Bavaro

1987:

TE1. Bavaro

TE2. Awalt

TE3. Christensen

1971:

TE1. Tucker

TE2. Kwalick

1972:

TE1. Kwalick

TE2. Chester

TE3. Tucker

Note: These are all the circumstances where of the top two TEs in Year X finished in the top three TEs in Year X+1. This is not all inclusive to the extent that if the top two TEs in Year X+1 finished in the top three in Year X, my sorting method would eliminate them (at least I think; now I'm just getting confused). In other words, I'm still confident that the top 2 TEs have never repeated, but I'm not sure the above list is complete in terms of the nearest misses.

 

[tlovyankee]

Edge, M. Faulk, Dillon, Bettis, Martin

 

[Chase Stuart]

Edge, M. Faulk, Dillon, Bettis, Martin

Nope.

 

[The Man With No Name]

For #2- not sure I get what you're asking. -- ?There are only 5 players that have ever been #1 at their position consecutive years? Explain it if that's not it. I know that's not it, so.......?

 

[David Yudkin]

For #2- not sure I get what you're asking. -- ?There are only 5 players that have ever been #1 at their position consecutive years? Explain it if that's not it. I know that's not it, so.......?

Only one other time did the Top 5 players at a position all rank in the Top 5 again the following year.

 

[Chase Stuart]

For #2- not sure I get what you're asking. -- ?There are only 5 players that have ever been #1 at their position consecutive years? Explain it if that's not it. I know that's not it, so.......?

Only one other time did the Top 5 players at a position all rank in the Top 5 again the following year.

 

[chris1969]

I don't know the answer, but I'm sure Ditka was involved, and at the time, he was probably all hopped up on Levitra.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Jerry Rice

Michael Irvin

Sterling Sharpe

Andre Rison

Tim Brown

 

[Chase Stuart]

Jerry RiceMichael IrvinSterling SharpeAndre RisonTim Brown

Oops.The answer is Rice-Irvin-Sharpe-Rison from 1992-1993. I guess my memory is really slipping, because I thought there were five. Obviously the correct answer is four. I'm pretty sure this means there's not even a repeat at the top three at any other position. Later tonight I'll update with a more thorough post.Nice job to you and Yudkin.

 

[Raider Nation]

Chase's next trivia question:

There is a current NFL player. On 11/14/91 (a VERY rainy day), in the lunch room while in the 5th grade, he had a tunafish sandwich, a banana, a chocolate milk and six vanilla wafer cookies. Name him.

HINT: He is not of Turkish descent, so that effectively eliminates these 14 players.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Chase's next trivia question:

There is a current NFL player. On 11/14/91 (a VERY rainy day), in the lunch room while in the 5th grade, he had a tunafish sandwich, a banana, a chocolate milk and six vanilla wafer cookies. Name him.

HINT: He is not of Turkish descent, so that effectively eliminates these 14 players.

C'mon, I know you liked this trivia question.

 

[chris1969]

Chase's next trivia question:

There is a current NFL player. On 11/14/91 (a VERY rainy day), in the lunch room while in the 5th grade, he had a tunafish sandwich, a banana, a chocolate milk and six vanilla wafer cookies. Name him.

HINT: He is not of Turkish descent, so that effectively eliminates these 14 players.

Levent Osman is not as Turkish as the rest of those guys!

 

[Raider Nation]

Chase's next trivia question:

There is a current NFL player. On 11/14/91 (a VERY rainy day), in the lunch room while in the 5th grade, he had a tunafish sandwich, a banana, a chocolate milk and six vanilla wafer cookies. Name him.

HINT: He is not of Turkish descent, so that effectively eliminates these 14 players.

C'mon, I know you liked this trivia question.

I did, but reading it after a 12 hour work day made my head hurt... How about something a little easier next time like: "Name the most undeserving player in the NFL Hall of Fame. HINT: He wore #12 and played quarterback for the New York Jets."

 

[Chase Stuart]

Quarterbacks

In both 2002 and 2003, Daunte Culpepper ranked first and Peyton Manning ranked second. That's the only time since 1970 that the same two QBs have ranked in the top two spots in consecutive years. Trent Green ranked 3rd in 2002 and 4th in 2003, so only Donovan McNabb's 3rd place ranking in 2003 prevented the trio from holding on to the top three spots.

No other time was very close, except all of the top 6 QBs in 1978 ranked in the top 8 in 1979.

Running Backs

Three times the top two RBs in one year ranked in the top two the next. In 1978, Walter Payton ranked first and Earl Campbell second; the two flip-flopped in 1979. In 1990, Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas (Go Cowboys!) ranked first and second; in 1991, they finished in the same order. Those were the middle two years of a four year run where Thomas was the number two fantasy RB; now we know where the Bills got that idea from . More memorably, in 1999 and 2000 Edgerrin James and Marshall Faulk ranked first and second, with James being the main man in 1999 (by a single point) and Faulk leading everyone by a mile in 2000.

Something else interesting happened those two years; Eddie George ranked 3rd in both 1999 and 2000. That was the only time the same three RBs ranked in the top three in consecutive years. In both 1976 and 1995, the top four RBs ranked 1st, 3rd, 4th and 6th the prior year, but there has never been a quarter to hold steady over consecutive years.

Wide Receiver

There has been a WR quarter to do that, though. In 1992, Sharpe, Rice, Irvin and Rison were the big four; the 5th WR (Anthony Miller) was 30 points behind Rison. In 1993, Rice, Rison, Sharpe and Irvin ranked 1-4, with the 5th best WR (Carter and Tim Brown, tied) 15 points back of Irvin.

In 2001, Harrison and Owens ranked 1st and 2nd; in 2002, Harrison and Owens ranked 1st and 2nd. In 1999, Harrison ranked 1st and Moss 2nd; in 2000, Moss ranked 1st and Harrison 2nd. Those are the only two times the same two WRs ranked 1st and 2nd in consecutive years (it didn't even happen in 1992/1993). The same trio has never ranked 1-3 in consecutive years, either. The top five WRs have never repeated, but that 1992/1993 group was extremely close: Anthony Miller (ranked 5th in 1992) was only three points away from ranking 5th again in 1993.

Tight Ends

As noted earlier, the same two TEs have NEVER ranked at the top in consecutive years. That's easy to remember at least: 0 TE pairs, 1 QB pair, 2 WR pairs and 3 RB pairs have ranked at the top in consecutive years. The same trio has never ranked at the top consecutively, either, but there were two close calls: In 1996, Sharpe, Walls and Coates ranked 1-2-3; they ranked 1-4-2 in 1997, with Rickey Dudley edging Walls for third place that year.

1990 was even closer. In 1989, Rodney Holman, Keith Jackson and Brent Jones ranked 1-2-3. In 1990, Brent Jones and Keith Jackson ranked 1st and 2nd. Jay Novacek ranked 3rd, beating out Holman by one yard.

No quartet of TEs ever remained on top, and no quintet did either. But the same six TEs ranked in the top 6 in 1993 and 1994, and the same seven TEs ranked in the top 7 in 1993 and 1994. In 1993, Sharpe, Green, Coates, Mitchell, Jackson, Jones and Metzelaars were the top 7, and in 1994 the top 7 were Coates, Sharpe, Jones, Jackson, Mitchell, Green, Metzelaars. The 8th best TE in 1993 was Jackie Harris, and he ranked 18th in 1994. The 8th best TE in 1994 was Wesley Walls, who ranked 77th in 1993.

 

[David Yudkin]

Jerry RiceMichael IrvinSterling SharpeAndre RisonTim Brown

Oops.The answer is Rice-Irvin-Sharpe-Rison from 1992-1993. I guess my memory is really slipping, because I thought there were five. Obviously the correct answer is four. I'm pretty sure this means there's not even a repeat at the top three at any other position. Later tonight I'll update with a more thorough post.Nice job to you and Yudkin.

Thanks there Chase. I had this one pegged ages ago but continued to look for 5 guys not 4. That explains why the exlcusionary system I mentioned to you came back with an empty data set.

 

[GregR_2]

Chase's next trivia question:

There is a current NFL player. On 11/14/91 (a VERY rainy day), in the lunch room while in the 5th grade, he had a tunafish sandwich, a banana, a chocolate milk and six vanilla wafer cookies. Name him.

HINT: He is not of Turkish descent, so that effectively eliminates these 14 players.

Reminds me of an old Cheers episode:

Alex Trebeck: "Final Jeopardy time. The subject is Fantasy Football. The answer is, 'Troy Brown, Doak Walker, Jerome Harrison."

Chase: "Who are 3 people who have never been in my bathroom."

 

[David Yudkin]

I think we're looking for (in at least one case) a more obscure position, like TE.

Yes.1993

Shannon Sharpe

Eric Green

Ben Coates

Johnny Mitchell

Keith Jackson

Brent Jones

Pete Metzelaars

1994

Ben Coates

Shannon Sharpe

Brent Jones

Keith Jackson

Johnny Mitchell

Eric Green

Pete Metzelaars

Very nice job, David. It's pretty incredible that the same seven TEs were atop the leaderboard in consecutive years.

But you know the really amazing part? Not only is 1993-1994 the only pair of years where the top 7 stayed the same, and not only were the top 6 or 5 never the same in consecutive years, but neither were the top 3...or even top 2. 1993-1994 is the only pair of years where the top TWO TEs remained the same. Incredible.

I just wanted to test drive the thank you smilie . . .