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Waiting for more information on Steambox. I hope the price point is going to be reasonable. Then it's game on.
The only pricing I have seen is from 499 for the base model up to 999 for the top end model. But apparently a lot of people are going to be making these so my guess is it will drift a bit further down.
That sounds more logical. I think that a lot of people will like what's going on with the Steambox once it has been officially announced to the public. A lot of people that complain about the difficulty of playing PC games won't have an excuse anymore.

 
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Waiting for more information on Steambox. I hope the price point is going to be reasonable. Then it's game on.
The only pricing I have seen is from 499 for the base model up to 999 for the top end model. But apparently a lot of people are going to be making these so my guess is it will drift a bit further down.
That sounds more logical. I think that a lot of people will like what's going on with the Steambox once it has been officially announced to the public. A lot of people that complain about the difficulty of playing PC games won't have an excuse anymore.
Is this basically a PC that you hook up to your television? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I've only been peripherally aware of the existence of Steambox. I'm definitely interested since it seems like PCs have a lot of unique games.

 
Waiting for more information on Steambox. I hope the price point is going to be reasonable. Then it's game on.
The only pricing I have seen is from 499 for the base model up to 999 for the top end model. But apparently a lot of people are going to be making these so my guess is it will drift a bit further down.
That sounds more logical. I think that a lot of people will like what's going on with the Steambox once it has been officially announced to the public. A lot of people that complain about the difficulty of playing PC games won't have an excuse anymore.
Is this basically a PC that you hook up to your television? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I've only been peripherally aware of the existence of Steambox. I'm definitely interested since it seems like PCs have a lot of unique games.
It'll basically be a closed system gaming PC that will be easy to connect like a console. It will have a Linux-based OS and use Steam for the games.

 
Waiting for more information on Steambox. I hope the price point is going to be reasonable. Then it's game on.
The only pricing I have seen is from 499 for the base model up to 999 for the top end model. But apparently a lot of people are going to be making these so my guess is it will drift a bit further down.
That sounds more logical. I think that a lot of people will like what's going on with the Steambox once it has been officially announced to the public. A lot of people that complain about the difficulty of playing PC games won't have an excuse anymore.
Is this basically a PC that you hook up to your television? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I've only been peripherally aware of the existence of Steambox. I'm definitely interested since it seems like PCs have a lot of unique games.
Essentially.

 
Waiting for more information on Steambox. I hope the price point is going to be reasonable. Then it's game on.
The only pricing I have seen is from 499 for the base model up to 999 for the top end model. But apparently a lot of people are going to be making these so my guess is it will drift a bit further down.
That sounds more logical. I think that a lot of people will like what's going on with the Steambox once it has been officially announced to the public. A lot of people that complain about the difficulty of playing PC games won't have an excuse anymore.
Is this basically a PC that you hook up to your television? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I've only been peripherally aware of the existence of Steambox. I'm definitely interested since it seems like PCs have a lot of unique games.
It'll basically be a closed system gaming PC that will be easy to connect like a console. It will have a Linux-based OS and use Steam for the games.
You can install Windows over the Linux if you want so my guess is someone will make a Windows flavor.

 
By all accounts it will be upgradable, so you buy whatever model you want. Then in a few years when it looks like game devs are about to switch over to a new benchmark Valve will just release new modules that you can replace the old ones with. Game catalog will be on STEAM, meaning you own them forever and are always compatible. Never have to buy a new console to take advantage of new technology.Also, steam sales.

 
I :wub: Steam. Too bad we are still, what, 2 months from the summer sale? Although they have had some great weekly deals lately.

 
I :wub: Steam. Too bad we are still, what, 2 months from the summer sale? Although they have had some great weekly deals lately.
Other than some indie titles, there hasn't been any games that I've been itching to get when they go on sale. I'm sure I'll grab a couple during the sale, but what I won't until I pull the trigger.

 
Just got Rome: Total War for $.99.
That Gamespot download deal? Yeah, I bought an extra copy for my son, too. :bag:
Yep. Played it for about 30 minutes the other day. Seems like it should be fun. Controls are a bit unwieldy at first.
Easily my favorite TW game. Just wait until you unleash the Praetorians on them. :nerd:
Rome is a great game. I need to break it back out and go a few rounds.

 
Was not impressed with the PS4, even less impressed with the X1. Unless they completely blindside me with a price point that is lower than the cost of an equivalent PC I couldn't justify buying one.
I would guess that at launch you would not be able to go out and buy a PC that costs less than $500 that is better than both the PS4 and XB1.
When the PS4 was announced you could build the same exact system for 600. X1 has similar specs. Neither console is using new hardware.I doubt either will be less than 600. By release you will be able to build a better system for the same price.
While that may or may not be true - plug and play is FAR more attractive then constant errors, incompatibility problems and crashes. Getting #### to just run on a PC can be a daunting task.I used to be a staunch PC supporter but PC games ALWAYS play like PC games, especially sports games.
Compatibility can be obnoxious some times, small price to pay when you can game literally however you want. I'm not trying to start a console war I'm just saying people should really stop supporting this kind of crap they roll out. They could have done something innovative, they could have made console gaming more attractive. They have done neither over the past 10 years. Still making consoles with old tech, still charging more than they are worth, still locking down the hardware and software. Charging developers to release patches. Valve gets it, if your gonna build a console that is essentially a locked down PC, make it expandable. That one year old technology is gonna be six years old five years from now. If consoles survive into a 9th generation, we won't be seeing them for another 10 years.
Is your argument that they should build and sell a console (with all the features/benefits that come with consoles) for cheaper than you can buy an equivalent PC?

"Give me a $1,000 PC for $400 or you suck!"

 
Was not impressed with the PS4, even less impressed with the X1. Unless they completely blindside me with a price point that is lower than the cost of an equivalent PC I couldn't justify buying one.
I would guess that at launch you would not be able to go out and buy a PC that costs less than $500 that is better than both the PS4 and XB1.
When the PS4 was announced you could build the same exact system for 600. X1 has similar specs. Neither console is using new hardware.I doubt either will be less than 600. By release you will be able to build a better system for the same price.
While that may or may not be true - plug and play is FAR more attractive then constant errors, incompatibility problems and crashes. Getting #### to just run on a PC can be a daunting task.I used to be a staunch PC supporter but PC games ALWAYS play like PC games, especially sports games.
Compatibility can be obnoxious some times, small price to pay when you can game literally however you want. I'm not trying to start a console war I'm just saying people should really stop supporting this kind of crap they roll out. They could have done something innovative, they could have made console gaming more attractive. They have done neither over the past 10 years. Still making consoles with old tech, still charging more than they are worth, still locking down the hardware and software. Charging developers to release patches. Valve gets it, if your gonna build a console that is essentially a locked down PC, make it expandable. That one year old technology is gonna be six years old five years from now. If consoles survive into a 9th generation, we won't be seeing them for another 10 years.
Is your argument that they should build and sell a console (with all the features/benefits that come with consoles) for cheaper than you can buy an equivalent PC?

"Give me a $1,000 PC for $400 or you suck!"
No my argument is simple, consoles should either be cheap and released every few years or expensive with new hardware. Both the PS4 and the X1 are using technology from when they started development (1-3 years old), and just as they have in previous generations are setting the price point based off the cost of the hardware when it was brand new 1-3 years ago. When in reality that hardware depreciates immediately after it is released pretty harshly every 3 months.Hardware gets cheap fast, which is why having an expandable console (or a PC if you can handle troubleshooting) just makes sense from a consumers perspective. Why buy old technology for a price it isn't worth anymore? Why force developers to develop for years old technology? It is just dumb and in general makes the entire industry worse (see: the last 10 years of gaming).

 
No my argument is simple, consoles should either be cheap and released every few years or expensive with new hardware. Both the PS4 and the X1 are using technology from when they started development (1-3 years old), and just as they have in previous generations are setting the price point based off the cost of the hardware when it was brand new 1-3 years ago. When in reality that hardware depreciates immediately after it is released pretty harshly every 3 months.Hardware gets cheap fast, which is why having an expandable console (or a PC if you can handle troubleshooting) just makes sense from a consumers perspective. Why buy old technology for a price it isn't worth anymore? Why force developers to develop for years old technology? It is just dumb and in general makes the entire industry worse (see: the last 10 years of gaming).
Oh, ok, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Because I believe the last 10 years of gaming have been the best 10 years of gaming in the history of the known universe.

 
No my argument is simple, consoles should either be cheap and released every few years or expensive with new hardware. Both the PS4 and the X1 are using technology from when they started development (1-3 years old), and just as they have in previous generations are setting the price point based off the cost of the hardware when it was brand new 1-3 years ago. When in reality that hardware depreciates immediately after it is released pretty harshly every 3 months.Hardware gets cheap fast, which is why having an expandable console (or a PC if you can handle troubleshooting) just makes sense from a consumers perspective. Why buy old technology for a price it isn't worth anymore? Why force developers to develop for years old technology? It is just dumb and in general makes the entire industry worse (see: the last 10 years of gaming).
Oh, ok, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Because I believe the last 10 years of gaming have been the best 10 years of gaming in the history of the known universe.
Two different points entirely, I wouldn't go as far to say it was the best time in gaming history but I also wouldn't say it was the worst - because it wasn't. What I would say however was that there was absolutely no innovation during that time, and it all comes back on the consumer. Never ending iterations of the same game over and over. All genres being reduced to their simplest mechanics. Developers being forced to develop games on technology 10 years old.A majority of people believe EA and Activision are horrible companies with horrible policies, and yet they are still in business because of whatever most recent iteration of Call of Battlefield sold 10 bazillion copies.
 
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No my argument is simple, consoles should either be cheap and released every few years or expensive with new hardware. Both the PS4 and the X1 are using technology from when they started development (1-3 years old), and just as they have in previous generations are setting the price point based off the cost of the hardware when it was brand new 1-3 years ago. When in reality that hardware depreciates immediately after it is released pretty harshly every 3 months.Hardware gets cheap fast, which is why having an expandable console (or a PC if you can handle troubleshooting) just makes sense from a consumers perspective. Why buy old technology for a price it isn't worth anymore? Why force developers to develop for years old technology? It is just dumb and in general makes the entire industry worse (see: the last 10 years of gaming).
Oh, ok, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Because I believe the last 10 years of gaming have been the best 10 years of gaming in the history of the known universe.
Two different points entirely, I wouldn't go as far to say it was the best time in gaming history but I also wouldn't say it was the worst - because it wasn't. What I would say however was that there was absolutely no innovation during that time, and it all comes back on the consumer. Never ending iterations of the same game over and over. All genres being reduced to their simplest mechanics. Developers being forced to develop games on technology 10 years old.A majority of people believe EA and Activision are horrible companies with horrible policies, and yet they are still in business because of whatever most recent iteration of Call of Battlefield sold 10 bazillion copies.
I agree with your complaint -- too many games focus on the least common denominator, which is why you end up with every shooter being like COD and games like Dead Space going all action-y because that's what sells. But I see that as being more about development costs. AAA games are really expensive to produce, so if you're going to make one, you better make sure it sells a ton of copies. And unfortunately, there's a gigantic population of "gamers" whose game purchases mainly amount to the latest iterations of COD and Madden. With a few notable exceptions, games that wander outside mainstream expectations tend to sell poorly. If we're talking about a game like Super Meat Boy or Flower, that's fine, but when it's an Alan Wake or MAG it tends to be disastrous for the producer.

If everybody switched over to PC gaming tomorrow, that problem wouldn't go away. I do actually sympathize with PC gamers who complain about consoles gimping their PC versions, but mass-appeal games are still going to dominate the market now that gaming is no longer a niche hobby. When dreck like COD dominates the market, its for the same reason that crap like Fast and Furious getting recycled by Hollywood (and remakes).

 
Some questions for Elder Scrolls players, I noticed Oblivion is also available on PS3. I know nothing about this game. How different are they, Oblivion and Skyrim, in terms of gameplay? Is there a story line that I would miss out on if I go straight to Skyrim? Although since Oblivion is already IV I may be missing out on storylines anyway. Also, will I want to play Oblivion if I play Skyrim, in which case I should start with Oblivion first then go to Skyrim? And finally if it's so open world will I get lost really fast? I love RPG's and have played some MMO in the past and like them quite a bit, but I'm not at all into FPS games. Thanks in advance for the input.

Also thanks to whomever posted that download deal on PS3 for Tombraider a few weeks back, I just finished playing it and it was a great game. I hadn't turned on my PS3 in like a year, now I'm itching for more.

 
Some questions for Elder Scrolls players, I noticed Oblivion is also available on PS3. I know nothing about this game. How different are they, Oblivion and Skyrim, in terms of gameplay? Is there a story line that I would miss out on if I go straight to Skyrim? Although since Oblivion is already IV I may be missing out on storylines anyway. Also, will I want to play Oblivion if I play Skyrim, in which case I should start with Oblivion first then go to Skyrim? And finally if it's so open world will I get lost really fast? I love RPG's and have played some MMO in the past and like them quite a bit, but I'm not at all into FPS games. Thanks in advance for the input.

Also thanks to whomever posted that download deal on PS3 for Tombraider a few weeks back, I just finished playing it and it was a great game. I hadn't turned on my PS3 in like a year, now I'm itching for more.
The stories in the Elder Scolls games are so deep its almost incomprehensible. You don't need to have played any of them to enjoy the next or latest.

You want to wait for somebody else to respond to this or Google if the bugs in the PS3 version of Skyrim have been fixed. From what I heard the DLC just broke the game on the PS3.

 
Some questions for Elder Scrolls players, I noticed Oblivion is also available on PS3. I know nothing about this game. How different are they, Oblivion and Skyrim, in terms of gameplay? Is there a story line that I would miss out on if I go straight to Skyrim? Although since Oblivion is already IV I may be missing out on storylines anyway. Also, will I want to play Oblivion if I play Skyrim, in which case I should start with Oblivion first then go to Skyrim? And finally if it's so open world will I get lost really fast? I love RPG's and have played some MMO in the past and like them quite a bit, but I'm not at all into FPS games. Thanks in advance for the input.

Also thanks to whomever posted that download deal on PS3 for Tombraider a few weeks back, I just finished playing it and it was a great game. I hadn't turned on my PS3 in like a year, now I'm itching for more.
Oblivion is a great game in its own right. Totally worth playing by itself. I would probably start with Oblivion because Skyrim is just so much more of what Oblivion did great.

 
Looks like I am on the last ME3 mission :( I ended up getting all of the single player expansion packs just because I didn't want the ride to end. Citadel is the best one, it really brings a lot of humor to the game and gives, what I believe will be the proper send off these characters deserve. From Ashes is well worth it because it was the part of the original game that they carved off into an expansion pack (the bush league move we discussed a couple pages ago) so it fits well into the story. However it gives you an additional squad mate who occupies a spot that could be filled up by what would likely be a more interesting character. Leviathan and Omega are both solid and worth playing, they are particularly helpful to get you enough war assets to properly finish the game.

It's been a heck of a run and I'm going to miss this game universe.

 
Some questions for Elder Scrolls players, I noticed Oblivion is also available on PS3. I know nothing about this game. How different are they, Oblivion and Skyrim, in terms of gameplay? Is there a story line that I would miss out on if I go straight to Skyrim? Although since Oblivion is already IV I may be missing out on storylines anyway. Also, will I want to play Oblivion if I play Skyrim, in which case I should start with Oblivion first then go to Skyrim? And finally if it's so open world will I get lost really fast? I love RPG's and have played some MMO in the past and like them quite a bit, but I'm not at all into FPS games. Thanks in advance for the input.

Also thanks to whomever posted that download deal on PS3 for Tombraider a few weeks back, I just finished playing it and it was a great game. I hadn't turned on my PS3 in like a year, now I'm itching for more.
Personally I would just go straight to Skyrim. I've said this before, but Oblivion's leveling system is just broken to the point that it really messes up the game. You can work around it by studying the finer points of power-leveling from wikis, or you can just turn the difficulty slider down. But why bother when Skyrim is sitting there waiting for you? You won't be missing out on much in terms of story; they're really both stand-alone titles.

That said, Oblivion is better than Skyrim in terms of quests and storylines. It's just that the leveling is so bad that my vote is for Skyrim.

 
So being that this is the game thread, is there a game that would make you buy the newer generation sooner than you typically would?

I bought my 360 for Dead Rising. Had to have that game. Ironically, it wasn't that good, but buying the 360 got me into console gaming. The PC quickly got left behind (save for strategy games). I'll eventually buy a new gen console, but not right away. I might wait a year or two. But if the right game was released, I'd buy it earlier.

For me, I'd probably have to see some kind of bigger / better Skyrim or Witcher type game (a deep role playing game with lots of exploration and a huge world.) If a game like that came out and got good reviews from sites/players, that would be an instant buy.

What kind of game would sway you?

 
So being that this is the game thread, is there a game that would make you buy the newer generation sooner than you typically would? I bought my 360 for Dead Rising. Had to have that game. Ironically, it wasn't that good, but buying the 360 got me into console gaming. The PC quickly got left behind (save for strategy games). I'll eventually buy a new gen console, but not right away. I might wait a year or two. But if the right game was released, I'd buy it earlier. For me, I'd probably have to see some kind of bigger / better Skyrim or Witcher type game (a deep role playing game with lots of exploration and a huge world.) If a game like that came out and got good reviews from sites/players, that would be an instant buy. What kind of game would sway you?
Oddly enough given the previous post, I got mine for Oblivion. Assuming there is some backward compatibility, i will probably get a new system pretty soon after they release. If there isn't backward compatibility, I'll wait for the first well received blockbuster (which probably won't take long).
 
So being that this is the game thread, is there a game that would make you buy the newer generation sooner than you typically would? I bought my 360 for Dead Rising. Had to have that game. Ironically, it wasn't that good, but buying the 360 got me into console gaming. The PC quickly got left behind (save for strategy games). I'll eventually buy a new gen console, but not right away. I might wait a year or two. But if the right game was released, I'd buy it earlier. For me, I'd probably have to see some kind of bigger / better Skyrim or Witcher type game (a deep role playing game with lots of exploration and a huge world.) If a game like that came out and got good reviews from sites/players, that would be an instant buy. What kind of game would sway you?
Mechassault or Elder Scrolls.
 
So being that this is the game thread, is there a game that would make you buy the newer generation sooner than you typically would?

I bought my 360 for Dead Rising. Had to have that game. Ironically, it wasn't that good, but buying the 360 got me into console gaming. The PC quickly got left behind (save for strategy games). I'll eventually buy a new gen console, but not right away. I might wait a year or two. But if the right game was released, I'd buy it earlier.

For me, I'd probably have to see some kind of bigger / better Skyrim or Witcher type game (a deep role playing game with lots of exploration and a huge world.) If a game like that came out and got good reviews from sites/players, that would be an instant buy.

What kind of game would sway you?
So far the closest I have is The Last of Us. While I know it's a PS3 title, I'm sure it'll be available for PS4 also. Every other game I look forward to are multi-platform. For instance Watch Dogs, Splinter Cell: Blacklist and Battlefield 4. I really thought about a Wii U for the usual suspect of Nintendo first party titles and Pikmin 3, but unless Nintendo turns things around by Christmas, this console cycle doesn't look good for the big N. Perhaps they will drop home consoles and make primarily handhelds. I'd love to see a Mario or Zelda game on another platform, but that's unlikely. I think Shigeru Miyamoto would retire them before he would see them off of a Nintendo platform again.


I guess I'm just hoping for a new unique game to capture my interest. I just don't feel excited about games like I used to be. I think it's starting to show in some of my game related posts.
 
Some questions for Elder Scrolls players, I noticed Oblivion is also available on PS3. I know nothing about this game. How different are they, Oblivion and Skyrim, in terms of gameplay? Is there a story line that I would miss out on if I go straight to Skyrim? Although since Oblivion is already IV I may be missing out on storylines anyway. Also, will I want to play Oblivion if I play Skyrim, in which case I should start with Oblivion first then go to Skyrim? And finally if it's so open world will I get lost really fast? I love RPG's and have played some MMO in the past and like them quite a bit, but I'm not at all into FPS games. Thanks in advance for the input.

Also thanks to whomever posted that download deal on PS3 for Tombraider a few weeks back, I just finished playing it and it was a great game. I hadn't turned on my PS3 in like a year, now I'm itching for more.
Personally I would just go straight to Skyrim. I've said this before, but Oblivion's leveling system is just broken to the point that it really messes up the game. You can work around it by studying the finer points of power-leveling from wikis, or you can just turn the difficulty slider down. But why bother when Skyrim is sitting there waiting for you? You won't be missing out on much in terms of story; they're really both stand-alone titles.

That said, Oblivion is better than Skyrim in terms of quests and storylines. It's just that the leveling is so bad that my vote is for Skyrim.
:goodposting:

Just for the record I happened (no idea how I missed it) to figure out where the listing was for how long I've played Skyrim. One character - a bit over 300 hours. So much to consume in Skyrim that you'll finish it in time to catch the next Fallout that they have coming out.

 
So being that this is the game thread, is there a game that would make you buy the newer generation sooner than you typically would?

I bought my 360 for Dead Rising. Had to have that game. Ironically, it wasn't that good, but buying the 360 got me into console gaming. The PC quickly got left behind (save for strategy games). I'll eventually buy a new gen console, but not right away. I might wait a year or two. But if the right game was released, I'd buy it earlier.

For me, I'd probably have to see some kind of bigger / better Skyrim or Witcher type game (a deep role playing game with lots of exploration and a huge world.) If a game like that came out and got good reviews from sites/players, that would be an instant buy.

What kind of game would sway you?
To add to my previous post:

Oddly enough, I didn't buy either the XBox or XBox 360 for any specific game. I got the original XBox on release day because I had been all caught up in the hype from several months prior. On launch, I bought Halo, DOA 3, Project Gotham Racing, NFL Fever and some Shrek game that I literally traded in later that week for Amped. My favorite out of that group was Project Gotham Racing. Halo was great, but I was used to PC shooters, so I wasn't as hyped about it. I agree that Halo completely changed FPS gaming on consoles. NFL Fever wasn't too bad, but got killed in reviews.

When I owned the original XBox, I almost traded it and all my games in for a PS2 just because I wanted GTA3. I got talked out of it by a Gamestop employee. I still wish I did it, but not necessarily only for GTA3 (which finally got ported to XBox a year later).

I got my 360 because Ninja Gaiden killed my original XBox and the 360 had BC for my already owned games.

I did, however, buy the Wii strictly for... you guessed it, first party titles. Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime, etc. And Wii Sports Resort is pretty fun with the family too. I cannot lie. It's just that I barely play these games even though that's why I got the console. :shrug:

I do wish I had a PS3 for the Uncharted Series, LittleBigPlanet, and Last of Us. I still haven't played any of the God of War games.

I'll probably wind up waiting 6 months to a year after launch to decide this go 'round. By then, I'll have a better grasp of what I want. I hope.

 
So being that this is the game thread, is there a game that would make you buy the newer generation sooner than you typically would? I bought my 360 for Dead Rising. Had to have that game. Ironically, it wasn't that good, but buying the 360 got me into console gaming. The PC quickly got left behind (save for strategy games). I'll eventually buy a new gen console, but not right away. I might wait a year or two. But if the right game was released, I'd buy it earlier. For me, I'd probably have to see some kind of bigger / better Skyrim or Witcher type game (a deep role playing game with lots of exploration and a huge world.) If a game like that came out and got good reviews from sites/players, that would be an instant buy. What kind of game would sway you?
Mechassault or Elder Scrolls.
Mech Assault was an awesome game. I hated that it didn't get the BC treatment on 360. My disc is now a waste. :(

 
Some questions for Elder Scrolls players, I noticed Oblivion is also available on PS3. I know nothing about this game. How different are they, Oblivion and Skyrim, in terms of gameplay? Is there a story line that I would miss out on if I go straight to Skyrim? Although since Oblivion is already IV I may be missing out on storylines anyway. Also, will I want to play Oblivion if I play Skyrim, in which case I should start with Oblivion first then go to Skyrim? And finally if it's so open world will I get lost really fast? I love RPG's and have played some MMO in the past and like them quite a bit, but I'm not at all into FPS games. Thanks in advance for the input.

Also thanks to whomever posted that download deal on PS3 for Tombraider a few weeks back, I just finished playing it and it was a great game. I hadn't turned on my PS3 in like a year, now I'm itching for more.
Personally I would just go straight to Skyrim. I've said this before, but Oblivion's leveling system is just broken to the point that it really messes up the game. You can work around it by studying the finer points of power-leveling from wikis, or you can just turn the difficulty slider down. But why bother when Skyrim is sitting there waiting for you? You won't be missing out on much in terms of story; they're really both stand-alone titles.

That said, Oblivion is better than Skyrim in terms of quests and storylines. It's just that the leveling is so bad that my vote is for Skyrim.
I have to disagree with my good buddy Ivan here. The Oblivion leveling system is 90% about making the right choices at the beginning. Now yes it's good to do a little reading to make sure you take the right approach but after that I didn't mess with worrying about it. I built several character classes that way.

But you can't really go wrong either way IMO.

 
I bought my 360 just for Gears of War.

I'll probably buy a next gen just because I'll want to play the next iteration of multiplayer titles on a better and faster multiplayer platform. I've got to assume that the processing power is going to improve the multiplayer experience significantly, and wouldn't be surprised if the multiplayer scope increases on platforms. For example, 32 vs. 32 on Battlefield 4 instead of 16 vs. 16.

I REALLY want to play the Last of Us, based on the trailers/gameplay, but I'm not sure if that will be enough to pull me to PS 4. Need to see what they both show at E3.

 
I'll probably buy a next gen just because I'll want to play the next iteration of multiplayer titles on a better and faster multiplayer platform. I've got to assume that the processing power is going to improve the multiplayer experience significantly, and wouldn't be surprised if the multiplayer scope increases on platforms. For example, 32 vs. 32 on Battlefield 4 instead of 16 vs. 16.
Same here. If there's MP games have larger player counts on new consoles than current-gen consoles, I'll switch immediately.

 
I am reading some stuff that says these 300k servers will be used not only for xbox live stuff, but to host multiplayer games. Not sure I believe it, but if so it would be huge.

 
Wow! If I'm reading that right Steambox could be a game-changer.
Agreed.
Would make having a PC pretty much irrelevant for me. Would only need something for Excel, Word, and such.
That really depends. Some of the fun for some of us is in the tinkering and upgrading. I cannot imagine that the Steambox will support the biggest, baddest cards, either. They would be too big. Interesting either way. If they did, I would probably have one just to have a system without the kids' and wife's crap on it.

 
I am reading some stuff that says these 300k servers will be used not only for xbox live stuff, but to host multiplayer games. Not sure I believe it, but if so it would be huge.
Yep. I'm sick of my Halo 4 games pausing mid game for 2 minutes to switch to another host (someone's console). I would imagine MS hosting the games would greatly speed up matchmaking as well - shortening the time between matches.

 
Wow! If I'm reading that right Steambox could be a game-changer.
Agreed.
Would make having a PC pretty much irrelevant for me. Would only need something for Excel, Word, and such.
That really depends. Some of the fun for some of us is in the tinkering and upgrading. I cannot imagine that the Steambox will support the biggest, baddest cards, either. They would be too big. Interesting either way. If they did, I would probably have one just to have a system without the kids' and wife's crap on it.
Well, if it's a hobby that's really not relevant. I understand that. I'm saying if the most difficult function of your PC is to run games than this is a game-changer (if it does what it says it does). But if it gives you wood to tinker than by all means have at it. I only gives me semi-wood at this point. :nerd:

But your point about latest greatest is a good one. But the way I see it it is similar to my setup now and maybe better. Build a PC ahead of the curve and use it as long as you can and then rebuild. Not efficient but that's my system. I doubt steambox can be tinkered with. But I can see buying a new one every other year. But for the price I think it will be less than PC builds.

My concern would probably be adjusting from a desk setup to in front of the TV.

I'd use Ipads for all other PC needs.

 
Wow! If I'm reading that right Steambox could be a game-changer.
Agreed.
Would make having a PC pretty much irrelevant for me. Would only need something for Excel, Word, and such.
That really depends. Some of the fun for some of us is in the tinkering and upgrading. I cannot imagine that the Steambox will support the biggest, baddest cards, either. They would be too big. Interesting either way. If they did, I would probably have one just to have a system without the kids' and wife's crap on it.
Well, if it's a hobby that's really not relevant. I understand that. I'm saying if the most difficult function of your PC is to run games than this is a game-changer (if it does what it says it does). But if it gives you wood to tinker than by all means have at it. I only gives me semi-wood at this point. :nerd:

But your point about latest greatest is a good one. But the way I see it it is similar to my setup now and maybe better. Build a PC ahead of the curve and use it as long as you can and then rebuild. Not efficient but that's my system. I doubt steambox can be tinkered with. But I can see buying a new one every other year. But for the price I think it will be less than PC builds.

My concern would probably be adjusting from a desk setup to in front of the TV.

I'd use Ipads for all other PC needs.
You could use it on either. Looks to be small enough to take back and forth. Certainly has DVI as well as HDMI hookups. The thing that you lose out on are the multi-LCD setups. I have to say, after having gone with 3 monitors for gaming, it would be very disappointing to go back to just one. :nerd:

 
I just finished the main storyline in Sleeping Dogs and I'm now moving into the after-game stuff. Honestly, this game raises the bar quite a bit for GTA5. As you play it, you can't help but feel like you're playing an obvious GTA knock-off, but Sleeping Dogs is dramatically superior to the GTA franchise in several respects:

1) The driving physics actually work and are fun. GTA has always been shaky on driving.

2) Gunplay is pretty good. It's not Uncharted, but it's what we all expect from over-the-shoulder shooters. GTA's shooting mechanics have always been borderline-broken.

3) The melee combat is very good, kind of a hybrid between Batman (not as good as Batman, but you can see the similarities) and Assassins Creed (due to the emphasis on counters). GTA has no melee combat to speak of.

Also, the story in Sleeping Dogs is much better than anything I've seen in a GTA game, although admittedly I never finished San Andreas.

It's not that I'm not going to get GTA5, but I'm really tired of Rockstar's inability to get driving and shooting right in their "driving and shooting" game. The shooting especially is atrocious in Rockstar games. Having played this and inFamous and AC and a bunch of other sandbox games, I can't help but feel like Rockstar needs to work on its gameplay. GTA isn't the only open-world sandbox anymore.
Thanks for this. Steam has it 50% off this week. I think I'm gonna pick it up.

Quick question,

I'm gonna get the pc version. Can I use a regular xbox controller?
Yes, you can use a wired xbox controller. If you don't have a wired one, you need one of these for the wireless controller.
I had to unplug my G27 wheel and Club Sport Pedals.

But after that it worked like a champ.

thanks

 
Mad Cow said:
Anyone signing up to try Neverwinter MMO? Free to play, and looks pretty slick. As an unabashed fanboy of the NWN series, I am IN!
Is this free to play like Path of Exile where things you can buy don't affect game play?
Nah its similar to most other F2P MMOs, its close to Guildwars 2 but much more pay to win.

The game has three currencies (much like Guildwars 2), Gold, which is largely a useless unused currency that drops from mobs; Astral Diamonds, the official currency of the auction house, which you can get from doing daily quests or can be bought by the third currency: Zen, which is the the real money currency. With Zen you can buy faster mounts, convenience items and boosts for faster leveling.

Its unfortunate cause the combat system is kind of fun, but there is very little content and the pay to win model is pretty obnoxious.

 

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