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So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
I can't think of any no. I would say Dark Souls is closest based on its simplicity and how well it plays with a surprisingly deep story that isn't in your face - but the reality is parts of the game were unfinished on release and even today after a rerelease and expansion those unfinished sections of the game are still present and unfinished.

 
So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
Portal 2. Half-Life 2. KOTOR. I'd have to think for others.

 
So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
Flawlessness is too stringent of a criteria for a game to be given a perfect score imo. That's not to say I think perfect scores should be handed out like candy, but I think the idea that perfect scores should only be given out once a decade or not even given out at all is ridiculous. If a game does something new or refreshing, has a very interesting story, and has very fun/great gameplay, I don't think it should be doomed to a 9/10 at best because it's menu is clunky or something like that.

Uncharted 2, Vice City, San Andreas, Diablo 2, Borderlands 1, and Mass Effect 2 are some recent games off the top of my head that I'd give a perfect score.

 
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So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
Portal 2. Half-Life 2. KOTOR. I'd have to think for others.
I agree with Portal 2 being really close for what it is it has very few flaws. I think Half-life is much closer than Half-life 2. KOTOR was a great game but a lot of the mechanics were not polished even a little. Another close one is Morrowind imo, but even though its fun factor is through the roof and is the deepest open world rpg on consoles to date it still has a lot of flaws.

So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
Flawlessness is too stringent of a criteria for a game to be given a perfect score imo. That's not to say I think perfect scores should be handed out like candy, but I think the idea that perfect scores should only be given out once a decade or not even given out at all is ridiculous. If a game does something new or refreshing, has an interesting story, and has fun/great gameplay, I don't think it should be doomed to a 9/10 at best because it's menu's clunky or something like that.

Uncharted 2, Vice City, San Andreas, Diablo 2, Borderlands 1, and Mass Effect 2 are some recent games off the top of my head that I'd give a perfect score.
9/10 shouldnt be considered doom, it should be elevated above all of the 6s and 7s that are misscounted as 9s and 9.5s with the current system.

 
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So what games would you guys consider 10's? Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game? The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
Flawlessness is too stringent of a criteria for a game to be given a perfect score imo. That's not to say I think perfect scores should be handed out like candy, but I think the idea that perfect scores should only be given out once a decade or not even given out at all is ridiculous. If a game does something new or refreshing, has an interesting story, and has fun/great gameplay, I don't think it should be doomed to a 9/10 at best because it's menu's clunky or something like that. Uncharted 2, Vice City, San Andreas, Diablo 2, Borderlands 1, and Mass Effect 2 are some recent games off the top of my head that I'd give a perfect score.
9/10 shouldnt be considered doom, it should be elevated above all of the 6s and 7s that are misscounted as 9s and 9.5s with the current system.
I'm not trying to say anything about how reviewing sources are currently counting games (as I agree many websites start their scores at 7/10 and only work up), I'm talking about how I think reviews should be scored. I think every value of a score should be attainable, from 1/10 to 10/10. That's one reason why I like Adam Sessler, he marks on a 5 star scale with no half stars, and he's more than willing to give a 1/2 star score just as he is a 5 star score. And for those who dislike review sources who's average score is an 8+/10, Sessler's most common score is probably 3/5, which obviously equates to just 6/10.
 
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So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
I don't think a 10 means "flawless," at least not to me. If we did an Ofdee scale for video games, a 10 would be one the very best games of its generation and among the best games of all time.

By that standard, I would have absolutely no problem handing out 10s to Bioshock and Uncharted 2. It's not that either game is completely perfect, but they're clearly in the super elite upper tier.

 
I would argue a game could be a maximum of 9/10. The elevation to 10/10 would be completely dependent on the individual, meaning if that game floats your boat. The 11/10, so to speak.

 
I would argue a game could be a maximum of 9/10. The elevation to 10/10 would be completely dependent on the individual, meaning if that game floats your boat. The 11/10, so to speak.
Exactly, its attainable but only by the absolute best.It makes the 9/10 essentially a 10 and a 10/10 an 11.Comes down to whether you want to elevate the field and lower the absolute best as a result or if you want to elevate the absolute best to their own level.I would much rather have an accurate scale where the best of the best truly are in their own category.

 
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Any recommendations out there for a turn based space strategy type game? Something along the lines of Civilization in space. I've downloaded the master of orion games from GOG but would like something with a little more eye candy.

 
So what games would you guys consider 10's? Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game? The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
Such a subjective thing. See I liked uncharted 2 but itd be about an 8 for me. Story and dialogue are great but the gameplay got boring. You kill a lot of people for just an average treasure hunter.To me half life 1 and 2 when they came out were perfect 10s. Perfect balance of gameplay, story and immersion. But I'm sure there are some who think otherwise.
 
Any recommendations out there for a turn based space strategy type game? Something along the lines of Civilization in space. I've downloaded the master of orion games from GOG but would like something with a little more eye candy.
Stardock's Galactic Civilization is pretty highly-regarded, as was it's sequel GCII. Most of those space ones are more RTS.

 
Any recommendations out there for a turn based space strategy type game? Something along the lines of Civilization in space. I've downloaded the master of orion games from GOG but would like something with a little more eye candy.
Stardock's Galactic Civilization is pretty highly-regarded, as was it's sequel GCII. Most of those space ones are more RTS.
Just what i was looking for. GCII is $20 on steam with all the expansions.

 
Deus Ex (original) and Half Life 2 are probably the only perfect scores I could give. Great stories/variety/graphics for the time/controls/etc...

 
Top 10 this gen for me. Now mind you I am exclusive to PS3

1. MLB The Show 13

2. NBA 2K11

3. Batman Arkham Asylum

4. Dead Space

5. Skyrim

6. Mass Effect 2

7. Dragon Age Origins

8. Bioshock

9. Batman Arkham City

10. Mass Effect 3

 
This doesn't sound like my kind of game at all. I enjoy a good story but mostly if I can navigate some part of it based on my choices. I also didn't like 'the road' at all. Left me very depressed. I don't think ill be playing this one.
Cormac McCarthy likes to leave you depressed when he's done with you.

 
Any recommendations out there for a turn based space strategy type game? Something along the lines of Civilization in space. I've downloaded the master of orion games from GOG but would like something with a little more eye candy.
Stardock's Galactic Civilization is pretty highly-regarded, as was it's sequel GCII. Most of those space ones are more RTS.
Just what i was looking for. GCII is $20 on steam with all the expansions.
Sins of a Solar Empire is also well liked... just not by me.

 
Top 10 this gen for me. Now mind you I am exclusive to PS31. MLB The Show 132. NBA 2K113. Batman Arkham Asylum4. Dead Space5. Skyrim6. Mass Effect 27. Dragon Age Origins8. Bioshock9. Batman Arkham City10. Mass Effect 3
See while I like all of these games only Bioshock would get the perfect 10 from Me. It had almost no flaws from gameplay, story and presentation. Every other game has flaws. Some of them dramatic flaws.
 
If that sort of thing bothers you (and it can for me as well), I'd say just find one or two reviewing sources that you trust and find yourself generally agreeing with more often than not, and just follow them exclusively. Personally I really like Adam Sessler at Rev3Games, he's intelligent, not afraid to criticize big blockbuster games, and he shares my value of caring about story more than most reviewers seem to. In

Cool link, thanks. Enjoyed that review. Definitely intrigued again after seeing it.
 
Top 10 this gen for me. Now mind you I am exclusive to PS31. MLB The Show 132. NBA 2K113. Batman Arkham Asylum4. Dead Space5. Skyrim6. Mass Effect 27. Dragon Age Origins8. Bioshock9. Batman Arkham City10. Mass Effect 3
See while I like all of these games only Bioshock would get the perfect 10 from Me. It had almost no flaws from gameplay, story and presentation. Every other game has flaws. Some of them dramatic flaws.
I guess I am easy to please.I play the top 2 year round season after season after season, with classic rosters, current rosters etc. those games will end up being played for hundreds and hundreds of hours. I have played through both Batmans twice and will again some day. I will replay Dead Space as a trilogy again and probably a third time. I am on my second play through of ME2 and 3 now that I have the original. Skyrim I have logged over 250 hours on my first character and still going. And DAO is another one I will play through several times with different character builds.While there are some minor flaws.....I found nothing remotely game breaking. Anyway it is subjective
 
That's one area I think I differ from other gamers. I rarely do a second play through of anything anymore. Once I complete a game, I want to move on to something new.

 
so last of us... a) uncharted/tomb raidery,b) halo/gears/left4deady,c) oblivion/skyrimy
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cool, iwas good with eithet a or b forums//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png
actually its not platformy like a. Looks like a mix of uncharted and dead space
I just described it to my son as Resident Evil, only made by the same guys who made Uncharted.
good enough
 
Top 10 this gen for me. Now mind you I am exclusive to PS31. MLB The Show 132. NBA 2K113. Batman Arkham Asylum4. Dead Space5. Skyrim6. Mass Effect 27. Dragon Age Origins8. Bioshock9. Batman Arkham City10. Mass Effect 3
See while I like all of these games only Bioshock would get the perfect 10 from Me. It had almost no flaws from gameplay, story and presentation. Every other game has flaws. Some of them dramatic flaws.
I guess I am easy to please.I play the top 2 year round season after season after season, with classic rosters, current rosters etc. those games will end up being played for hundreds and hundreds of hours. I have played through both Batmans twice and will again some day. I will replay Dead Space as a trilogy again and probably a third time. I am on my second play through of ME2 and 3 now that I have the original. Skyrim I have logged over 250 hours on my first character and still going. And DAO is another one I will play through several times with different character builds.While there are some minor flaws.....I found nothing remotely game breaking. Anyway it is subjective
Arkham asylum might get a 10 from me as well. Mass effect is my favorite series of all time but each game has flaws that keep it from being perfect.
 
Can pre-purchase Rome 2 now (September). Moving on from StarCraft. Fun game and worth my money but multiplayer gets repetitive. Think I'll try the old AOE2.

 
Top 10 this gen for me. Now mind you I am exclusive to PS3
This is an interesting exercise. If I'm going to go for my personal Top 10, it would probably look like this, in alphabetical order:

Battlefield Bad Company 2

Bioshock

Dead Space

Demon's Souls

Killzone 2

Metal Gear Solid 4

Motorstorm: Pacific Rift

Red Dead Redemption

Uncharted 2

Uncharted 3

Honorable mention would go the following, each of which I really wanted to put in my top 10 if I had room:

Batman: Arkham City

Dark Souls

Dishonored

Mass Effect 2

Uncharted 1

Obviously my love for MS:PR and KZ2 and BF:BC is highly idiosyncratic, but I sunk well over 200 hours into each of those so there's no way not to put them on my "Favorite of this Gen" list. Still I'm kind of appalled that I can't find room for Dark Souls and Uncharted there.

 
Top ten this generation for me (only PS3 for me as well), note this is a top 10 list, not games I would rate a 10. The first 3 or 4 on this list would come pretty close to a perfect 10 for me.

1) Fallout 3

2) Demon Souls

3) Bioshock 1

4) Borderlands 1

5) Dark Souls

6) Skyrim

7) Uncharted 1

8) Deadspace 1

9) Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time

10) Kingdoms of Amalur

 
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Any thoughts on Call of Juarez: Gunslinger?
I haven't played any that came after, but the original Call of Juarez was horrific. I don't know how that particular franchise survived its first outing, but I hope they improved.

The only cool thing was the slow-mo gunplay.

 
Back when I played PC games, I used to like PC Gamer's explanation of scores. 0-50 was a flat-out bad game. But they explained that a 70 was a pretty good game for the genre, so if you like RPG's, and something scored a 75, it's probably worth your time. The 90+ was reserved for games that crossed genres - that any gaming fan would probably like.

 
Top 10 this gen for me. Now mind you I am exclusive to PS3
This is an interesting exercise. If I'm going to go for my personal Top 10, it would probably look like this, in alphabetical order: Battlefield Bad Company 2BioshockDead SpaceDemon's SoulsKillzone 2Metal Gear Solid 4Motorstorm: Pacific RiftRed Dead RedemptionUncharted 2Uncharted 3 Honorable mention would go the following, each of which I really wanted to put in my top 10 if I had room: Batman: Arkham CityDark SoulsDishonoredMass Effect 2Uncharted 1 Obviously my love for MS:PR and KZ2 and BF:BC is highly idiosyncratic, but I sunk well over 200 hours into each of those so there's no way not to put them on my "Favorite of this Gen" list. Still I'm kind of appalled that I can't find room for Dark Souls and Uncharted there.
Yes I remember many late night sessions of BFBC2 with you and Kilgore. I was the smoke master.That sounds bizarre. Lol.
 
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Yes I remember many late night sessions of BFBC2 with you and Kilgore. I was the smoke master.That sounds bizarre. Lol.
I seriously miss that game. It was fun as hell with my narrow group of friends.
Are the servers still up?
I'm sure they probably still are. We should fire this up sometime. (Tonight doesn't work unfortunately -- Mrs IK is expecting some action of her own this evening).

 
So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
Flawlessness is too stringent of a criteria for a game to be given a perfect score imo. That's not to say I think perfect scores should be handed out like candy, but I think the idea that perfect scores should only be given out once a decade or not even given out at all is ridiculous. If a game does something new or refreshing, has an interesting story, and has fun/great gameplay, I don't think it should be doomed to a 9/10 at best because it's menu's clunky or something like that.

Uncharted 2, Vice City, San Andreas, Diablo 2, Borderlands 1, and Mass Effect 2 are some recent games off the top of my head that I'd give a perfect score.
9/10 shouldnt be considered doom, it should be elevated above all of the 6s and 7s that are misscounted as 9s and 9.5s with the current system.
I'm not trying to say anything about how reviewing sources are currently counting games (as I agree many websites start their scores at 7/10 and only work up), I'm talking about how I think reviews should be scored. I think every value of a score should be attainable, from 1/10 to 10/10.

That's one reason why I like Adam Sessler, he marks on a 5 star scale with no half stars, and he's more than willing to give a 1/2 star score just as he is a 5 star score. And for those who dislike review sources who's average score is an 8+/10, Sessler's most common score is probably 3/5, which obviously equates to just 6/10.
Adam Sessler doesn't believe in rating games at all. He only did it because G4 required it. He is 100% against how games are rated today and how much stock the publishers put into that.

Many companies base their rate of pay, raises, promotions, demotions, firings, etc. all on how a score looks on Metacritic. And Metacritic's system is completely flawed. Of course, they take the rating that each of the major game critic sites give and average them out for the Metacritic score. But the problem with that is not every site uses a 1-10 scale. If a game rates a 3/5, that rates a 6 on Metacritic, because they use the 10-point scale. There's a huge difference with scoring a game a 3/5 and a 6/10.

Don't let me tell you. Hear it from Sessler himself.

 
Obviously my love for MS:PR and KZ2 and BF:BC is highly idiosyncratic, but I sunk well over 200 hours into each of those so there's no way not to put them on my "Favorite of this Gen" list. Still I'm kind of appalled that I can't find room for Dark Souls and Uncharted there.
Uncharted 1 was like a rough draft for a great game. UC2 was definitely deserving of a 10 - it might rank much lower on my personal list because he wasn't all that long and didn't have much replay value, but for what it was, it was perfectly executed. KOTOR - I don't know how anyone could reasonably find any flaws of substance. I also see the arguments for ME2, RDR. Rome:Total War.
 
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So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
Flawlessness is too stringent of a criteria for a game to be given a perfect score imo. That's not to say I think perfect scores should be handed out like candy, but I think the idea that perfect scores should only be given out once a decade or not even given out at all is ridiculous. If a game does something new or refreshing, has an interesting story, and has fun/great gameplay, I don't think it should be doomed to a 9/10 at best because it's menu's clunky or something like that.

Uncharted 2, Vice City, San Andreas, Diablo 2, Borderlands 1, and Mass Effect 2 are some recent games off the top of my head that I'd give a perfect score.
9/10 shouldnt be considered doom, it should be elevated above all of the 6s and 7s that are misscounted as 9s and 9.5s with the current system.
I'm not trying to say anything about how reviewing sources are currently counting games (as I agree many websites start their scores at 7/10 and only work up), I'm talking about how I think reviews should be scored. I think every value of a score should be attainable, from 1/10 to 10/10.

That's one reason why I like Adam Sessler, he marks on a 5 star scale with no half stars, and he's more than willing to give a 1/2 star score just as he is a 5 star score. And for those who dislike review sources who's average score is an 8+/10, Sessler's most common score is probably 3/5, which obviously equates to just 6/10.
Adam Sessler doesn't believe in rating games at all. He only did it because G4 required it. He is 100% against how games are rated today and how much stock the publishers put into that. Many companies base their rate of pay, raises, promotions, demotions, firings, etc. all on how a score looks on Metacritic. And Metacritic's system is completely flawed. Of course, they take the rating that each of the major game critic sites give and average them out for the Metacritic score. But the problem with that is not every site uses a 1-10 scale. If a game rates a 3/5, that rates a 6 on Metacritic, because they use the 10-point scale. There's a huge difference with scoring a game a 3/5 and a 6/10.

Don't let me tell you. Hear it from Sessler himself.

since joining Rev3games on how he switched their rating system to a numerical 5 star system. Though you make a good point, a 5 point scale that doesn't use half points, such as how Sessler rates games, doesn't really equate to a 10 point scale. Although I'd say a 3/5 would be the exact same as a 6/10 if the 5 point scale did use half points.
 
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Obviously my love for MS:PR and KZ2 and BF:BC is highly idiosyncratic, but I sunk well over 200 hours into each of those so there's no way not to put them on my "Favorite of this Gen" list. Still I'm kind of appalled that I can't find room for Dark Souls and Uncharted there.
Uncharted 1 was like a rough draft for a great game. UC2 was definitely deserving of a 10 - it might rank much lower on my personal list because he wasn't all that long and didn't have much replay value, but for what it was, it was perfectly executed. KOTOR - I don't know how anyone could reasonably find any flaws of substance. I also see the arguments for ME2, RDR. Rome:Total War.
Rome is the perfect example of a game that I'd say would rate a 9 in general, bit would be a 10 in my book. Perfect game imo.
 
So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
Flawlessness is too stringent of a criteria for a game to be given a perfect score imo. That's not to say I think perfect scores should be handed out like candy, but I think the idea that perfect scores should only be given out once a decade or not even given out at all is ridiculous. If a game does something new or refreshing, has an interesting story, and has fun/great gameplay, I don't think it should be doomed to a 9/10 at best because it's menu's clunky or something like that.

Uncharted 2, Vice City, San Andreas, Diablo 2, Borderlands 1, and Mass Effect 2 are some recent games off the top of my head that I'd give a perfect score.
9/10 shouldnt be considered doom, it should be elevated above all of the 6s and 7s that are misscounted as 9s and 9.5s with the current system.
I'm not trying to say anything about how reviewing sources are currently counting games (as I agree many websites start their scores at 7/10 and only work up), I'm talking about how I think reviews should be scored. I think every value of a score should be attainable, from 1/10 to 10/10.

That's one reason why I like Adam Sessler, he marks on a 5 star scale with no half stars, and he's more than willing to give a 1/2 star score just as he is a 5 star score. And for those who dislike review sources who's average score is an 8+/10, Sessler's most common score is probably 3/5, which obviously equates to just 6/10.
Adam Sessler doesn't believe in rating games at all. He only did it because G4 required it. He is 100% against how games are rated today and how much stock the publishers put into that. Many companies base their rate of pay, raises, promotions, demotions, firings, etc. all on how a score looks on Metacritic. And Metacritic's system is completely flawed. Of course, they take the rating that each of the major game critic sites give and average them out for the Metacritic score. But the problem with that is not every site uses a 1-10 scale. If a game rates a 3/5, that rates a 6 on Metacritic, because they use the 10-point scale. There's a huge difference with scoring a game a 3/5 and a 6/10.

Don't let me tell you. Hear it from Sessler himself.

I don't think that the video you posted necessarily means that he has changed his views. He seemed to be explaining that Rev3 is moving to a rating system and what those ratings mean to him. I think he feels that ratings are a little important when reviewing a game, but it's not as important as what we have become accustom to. I think that reading the review or watching the full review to see why it got the numerical rating a game receives is much more important than the final score that people look for. That's how Sessler has said he feels before also. Unfortunately, there are many who simply look at a score and will base their buying decision explicitly on that score. Or also you get fans of the game look at a score and see that it's not the 10 or 9.5 that they feel that it deserves and then goes into total hate mode.

As for the last sentence. Many sites have stated that a 3/5 equate more to a 7 on a 10-point scale than a 6. There are a few articles written on the subject. I could have sworn that Sessler covered that in the video I linked, but I guess I was wrong there. Maybe he did in another video. Although, as Sessler stated in the video that you linked, a 5/5 doesn't necessarily mean it's a 10/10, either. He didn't word it that way, but I see a 10 as a flawless game. Especially if it's a site like IGN that uses decimals.

Think about it this way. If you see a game is 3 out of 5 stars, would you be willing to try it? If you see a game is rated 6 on IGN, would you be as willing to try it? Most people say no.

 
So what games would you guys consider 10's?

Are there any? Is there such a thing as a flawless game?

The only one I can think of is Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe Uncharted 2.
Flawlessness is too stringent of a criteria for a game to be given a perfect score imo. That's not to say I think perfect scores should be handed out like candy, but I think the idea that perfect scores should only be given out once a decade or not even given out at all is ridiculous. If a game does something new or refreshing, has an interesting story, and has fun/great gameplay, I don't think it should be doomed to a 9/10 at best because it's menu's clunky or something like that.

Uncharted 2, Vice City, San Andreas, Diablo 2, Borderlands 1, and Mass Effect 2 are some recent games off the top of my head that I'd give a perfect score.
9/10 shouldnt be considered doom, it should be elevated above all of the 6s and 7s that are misscounted as 9s and 9.5s with the current system.
I'm not trying to say anything about how reviewing sources are currently counting games (as I agree many websites start their scores at 7/10 and only work up), I'm talking about how I think reviews should be scored. I think every value of a score should be attainable, from 1/10 to 10/10.

That's one reason why I like Adam Sessler, he marks on a 5 star scale with no half stars, and he's more than willing to give a 1/2 star score just as he is a 5 star score. And for those who dislike review sources who's average score is an 8+/10, Sessler's most common score is probably 3/5, which obviously equates to just 6/10.
Adam Sessler doesn't believe in rating games at all. He only did it because G4 required it. He is 100% against how games are rated today and how much stock the publishers put into that. Many companies base their rate of pay, raises, promotions, demotions, firings, etc. all on how a score looks on Metacritic. And Metacritic's system is completely flawed. Of course, they take the rating that each of the major game critic sites give and average them out for the Metacritic score. But the problem with that is not every site uses a 1-10 scale. If a game rates a 3/5, that rates a 6 on Metacritic, because they use the 10-point scale. There's a huge difference with scoring a game a 3/5 and a 6/10.

Don't let me tell you. Hear it from Sessler himself.

I completely agree with the first bolded part.

In regard to the 2nd bolded part, while it may be true, I think that's just an example of how heuristics used by the human brain can at times lead to people making incorrect judgements. If the math implies there isn't a difference, then there isn't a difference, regardless of how people perceive it.

 
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I'm not trying to say anything about how reviewing sources are currently counting games (as I agree many websites start their scores at 7/10 and only work up), I'm talking about how I think reviews should be scored. I think every value of a score should be attainable, from 1/10 to 10/10.

That's one reason why I like Adam Sessler, he marks on a 5 star scale with no half stars, and he's more than willing to give a 1/2 star score just as he is a 5 star score. And for those who dislike review sources who's average score is an 8+/10, Sessler's most common score is probably 3/5, which obviously equates to just 6/10.
Adam Sessler doesn't believe in rating games at all. He only did it because G4 required it. He is 100% against how games are rated today and how much stock the publishers put into that. Many companies base their rate of pay, raises, promotions, demotions, firings, etc. all on how a score looks on Metacritic. And Metacritic's system is completely flawed. Of course, they take the rating that each of the major game critic sites give and average them out for the Metacritic score. But the problem with that is not every site uses a 1-10 scale. If a game rates a 3/5, that rates a 6 on Metacritic, because they use the 10-point scale. There's a huge difference with scoring a game a 3/5 and a 6/10.

Don't let me tell you. Hear it from Sessler himself.

In theory, there shouldn't be a difference. But when you check out the ratings on a site like Giant Bomb, who uses 5 star ratings and compare those games to games rated around 6 on IGN, you'll find that you like more of the 3 star rated games.

 
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I'm not trying to say anything about how reviewing sources are currently counting games (as I agree many websites start their scores at 7/10 and only work up), I'm talking about how I think reviews should be scored. I think every value of a score should be attainable, from 1/10 to 10/10.

That's one reason why I like Adam Sessler, he marks on a 5 star scale with no half stars, and he's more than willing to give a 1/2 star score just as he is a 5 star score. And for those who dislike review sources who's average score is an 8+/10, Sessler's most common score is probably 3/5, which obviously equates to just 6/10.
Adam Sessler doesn't believe in rating games at all. He only did it because G4 required it. He is 100% against how games are rated today and how much stock the publishers put into that. Many companies base their rate of pay, raises, promotions, demotions, firings, etc. all on how a score looks on Metacritic. And Metacritic's system is completely flawed. Of course, they take the rating that each of the major game critic sites give and average them out for the Metacritic score. But the problem with that is not every site uses a 1-10 scale. If a game rates a 3/5, that rates a 6 on Metacritic, because they use the 10-point scale. There's a huge difference with scoring a game a 3/5 and a 6/10.

Don't let me tell you. Hear it from Sessler himself.

I wouldn't blame the 10 point system for that, I'd blame those who use it incorrectly.

 
Any recommendations out there for a turn based space strategy type game? Something along the lines of Civilization in space. I've downloaded the master of orion games from GOG but would like something with a little more eye candy.
Stardock's Galactic Civilization is pretty highly-regarded, as was it's sequel GCII. Most of those space ones are more RTS.
Just what i was looking for. GCII is $20 on steam with all the expansions.
Sins of a Solar Empire is also well liked... just not by me.
My friends rave about the X3 series. Though it is more of a space simulation than a true strategy game.

 
Just downloaded State of Decay on the Xbox Live Arcade. About an hour and a half in....digging it so far. Not your mindless, hack-em zombie title. Take strategy. A survivalist RPG.

Anyone else play?

 
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