Vince Young (1 Viewer)

[the hairy scotsman]

As you are now. Vince Young lover. Vince has ZERO playoff wins. And I think Collins is a serviceable backup.That's it. Young is barely that. I use Collins as the counter to your ridiculous claim that vince young wins the games for the titans. He doesn't. Otherwise you would admit that Kerry Collins win games for the titans. You never do, do you. You can't win this.

Oh my...What on earth are you talking about. Where did I ever say KC never won a game for the Titans? Please feel free to quote me. You are correct. Vince is 0-1 in playoff games. You really like to pound on that like he's 0-10 or something.You're also right that I won't win this. There's no winning an argument with a raving lunatic.

 

[gotexansgo]

If I'm an employee and my boss has spent the last few years undermining me time and time again, I'm probably going to blow up over something I shouldn't actually fuss about. Imo this was simply the straw that broke his back.I'm certainly not excusing his past actions. But he has CLEARLY improved as a qb in his time with the Titans. Fisher has repeatedly gone out of his way to bench VY and it looks like he has some beef with him (justified or not). Vince was in the wrong. That doesn't mean Fisher is in the right.

and if that were to happen do you think the boss would give you a slap on the wrist (fine) or take a much more appropriate step and suspend/fire you (bench) I dont see this ending well for VY in Tennessee, hopefully he gets a better work ethic and grows some thicker skin for his new team, should they part ways after the season.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

If I'm an employee and my boss has spent the last few years undermining me time and time again, I'm probably going to blow up over something I shouldn't actually fuss about. Imo this was simply the straw that broke his back.I'm certainly not excusing his past actions. But he has CLEARLY improved as a qb in his time with the Titans. Fisher has repeatedly gone out of his way to bench VY and it looks like he has some beef with him (justified or not). Vince was in the wrong. That doesn't mean Fisher is in the right.

and if that were to happen do you think the boss would give you a slap on the wrist (fine) or take a much more appropriate step and suspend/fire you (bench) I dont see this ending well for VY in Tennessee, hopefully he gets a better work ethic and grows some thicker skin for his new team, should they part ways after the season.

I would think my boss has been looking for a reason to fire me and this would be it.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

If I'm an employee and my boss has spent the last few years undermining me time and time again, I'm probably going to blow up over something I shouldn't actually fuss about. Imo this was simply the straw that broke his back.I'm certainly not excusing his past actions. But he has CLEARLY improved as a qb in his time with the Titans. Fisher has repeatedly gone out of his way to bench VY and it looks like he has some beef with him (justified or not). Vince was in the wrong. That doesn't mean Fisher is in the right.

and if that were to happen do you think the boss would give you a slap on the wrist (fine) or take a much more appropriate step and suspend/fire you (bench) I dont see this ending well for VY in Tennessee, hopefully he gets a better work ethic and grows some thicker skin for his new team, should they part ways after the season.

I would think my boss has been looking for a reason to fire me and this would be it.

One or the other needs to be gone. If it's VY, so be it. He'll be better off.

 

[FavreCo]

As you are now. Vince Young lover. Vince has ZERO playoff wins. And I think Collins is a serviceable backup.That's it. Young is barely that. I use Collins as the counter to your ridiculous claim that vince young wins the games for the titans. He doesn't. Otherwise you would admit that Kerry Collins win games for the titans. You never do, do you. You can't win this.

Oh my...What on earth are you talking about. Where did I ever say KC never won a game for the Titans? Please feel free to quote me. You are correct. Vince is 0-1 in playoff games. You really like to pound on that like he's 0-10 or something.You're also right that I won't win this. There's no winning an argument with a raving lunatic.

No. You won't ever mention that kerry Collins wins games. You just repeatedly say that Vince young wins games. I continue to point out that he doesn't. That the team wins the games and Young is the QB. Just as they did in 2008 with Kerry Collins. Mention the part about kerry Collins winning games (Just like vince) for the titans in 2008 for me.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Tweeted by Vince Young

Will prove them again I'm still focus with pride much love to my true fans.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

If I'm an employee and my boss has spent the last few years undermining me time and time again, I'm probably going to blow up over something I shouldn't actually fuss about. Imo this was simply the straw that broke his back.I'm certainly not excusing his past actions. But he has CLEARLY improved as a qb in his time with the Titans. Fisher has repeatedly gone out of his way to bench VY and it looks like he has some beef with him (justified or not). Vince was in the wrong. That doesn't mean Fisher is in the right.

and if that were to happen do you think the boss would give you a slap on the wrist (fine) or take a much more appropriate step and suspend/fire you (bench) I dont see this ending well for VY in Tennessee, hopefully he gets a better work ethic and grows some thicker skin for his new team, should they part ways after the season.

I would think my boss has been looking for a reason to fire me and this would be it.

One or the other needs to be gone. If it's VY, so be it. He'll be better off.

I totally agree with this. You cannot have a boss constantly undermining an employee, and you cannot have an employee throwing tantrums and walking out on the boss.Bud Adams has a choice to make and I don't fault him for whatever way he goes.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Tweeted by Vince YoungWill prove them again I'm still focus with pride much love to my true fans.

English isn't his strong suit.

 

[Da Guru]

Tweeted by Vince YoungWill prove them again I'm still focus with pride much love to my true fans.

Translate that please...

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Tweeted by Vince YoungWill prove them again I'm still focus with pride much love to my true fans.

Translate that please...

Meh...It hurts my eyes, too. But so do most people's tweets. Here's the best short summary I've seen of the Titans' situation so far:

the coach told the owner not to draft the quarterback. The owner insisted, and the coach has had a grand case of penis envy every since. The result is every time the quarterback is injured, the coach promptly promotes quarterback number two to quarterback number one and basically tells ex-quarterback number one you lost your job period (not you have lost your job until you are well).Vince’s immaturity evidences itself when he is told he cannot do something. All competitors hate this; some are just able to handle it better. All Vince has done for Tennessee and Fisher is win. Fisher cannot handle Vince being the focal point so he over reacts himself. This is a no win all the away around – Vince is battered in the press for acting like a jerk; Fisher is a crybaby because daddy gave him a rolls when he wanted a Chevrolet (Fisher wants to be the object of affection, not his quarterback); Adams is Adams; and the Tennessee fans for having to put-up with all of this.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Team win game, QB's don't.

 

[FavreCo]

Team win game, QB's don't.

Oh man you are in trouble with that statement.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Team win game, QB's don't.

This is true. But qb's have a bigger impact than any other one position.

 

[jackdubl]

the coach told the owner not to draft the quarterback. The owner insisted, and the coach has had a grand case of penis envy every since. The result is every time the quarterback is injured, the coach promptly promotes quarterback number two to quarterback number one and basically tells ex-quarterback number one you lost your job period (not you have lost your job until you are well).

This is the only thing I've heard that makes sense.

 

[FavreCo]

Team win game, QB's don't.

This is true. But qb's have a bigger impact than any other one position.

Which is why teams must continue to search for the answer at QB if they ever want to win the Superbowl....let alone a playoff game. You only go so far with a hack at QB. Sometimes you go nowhere.

 

[Two Deep]

The people who think Young is a good QB because his TEAM won 2/3rds of those games are probably the same people who thought Trent Dilfer was a good QB.

This should have ended this thread/argument right here.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

Tweeted by Vince YoungWill prove them again I'm still focus with pride much love to my true fans.

Only thing missing from that is his pure belief that God put these obstacles in his way just so he can overcome them.What a moron.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

Team win game, QB's don't.

John Fox is that you?

 

[gotexansgo]

Tweeted by Vince YoungWill prove them again I'm still focus with pride much love to my true fans.

Only thing missing from that is his pure belief that God put these obstacles in his way just so he can overcome them.What a moron.

He did have a "but god is great" does that count? lol

 

[Two Deep]

Tweeted by Vince Young

Will prove to them again that I'm still focused[/b]. With pride and much love to my true fans.

Translate that please...

This is as close as I can get.

 

[jackdubl]

Tweeted by Vince YoungWill prove them again I'm still focus with pride much love to my true fans.

Only thing missing from that is his pure belief that God put these obstacles in his way just so he can overcome them.What a moron.

Hey, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. If anyone can prove them again with pride while still focus, it's Vince Young, baby.

 

[FavreCo]

Tweeted by Vince Young

Will prove to them again that I'm still focused[/b]. With pride and much love to my true fans.

Translate that please...

This is as close as I can get.

My gawd, if that is his true gasp of the english language, Fisher must feel like he's having holes drilled in his front teeth when trying to talk x's and o's with this guy.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The people who think Young is a good QB because his TEAM won 2/3rds of those games are probably the same people who thought Trent Dilfer was a good QB.

This should have ended this thread/argument right here.

Totally agree. To hell with the stats and facts.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

Tweeted by Vince Young

Will prove to them again that I'm still focused[/b]. With pride and much love to my true fans.

Translate that please...

This is as close as I can get.

My gawd, if that is his true gasp of the english language, Fisher must feel like he's having holes drilled in his front teeth when trying to talk x's and o's with this guy.

That is the product of person who scored a 6 on the Wonderlinc and then was "tutored" to a 16.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

I'm on the get rid of Fisher AND VY train.

But...as it pertain's to Fisher's 5 year disdain of VY and those who defend Fisher by saying that VY is no good:

VY's qb rating yesterday was 107.6

VY's qb rating on the season is 98.6 (5th in entire NFL behind only Vick, Big Ben, Rivers, and Brady).

VY's yards per attemp this season ranks as 4th best in the NFL (Vick, Rivers, Big Ben).

Is he great? No...but you could win with him if you'd let him play and have his back. Fisher, frankly, is undermined his own team's success by not riding VY.

 

[Bri]

the coach told the owner not to draft the quarterback. The owner insisted, and the coach has had a grand case of penis envy every since. The result is every time the quarterback is injured, the coach promptly promotes quarterback number two to quarterback number one and basically tells ex-quarterback number one you lost your job period (not you have lost your job until you are well).

This is the only thing I've heard that makes sense.

There's alot of KC haters. Don't forget he led them to the best record in NFL that year.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

the coach told the owner not to draft the quarterback. The owner insisted, and the coach has had a grand case of penis envy every since. The result is every time the quarterback is injured, the coach promptly promotes quarterback number two to quarterback number one and basically tells ex-quarterback number one you lost your job period (not you have lost your job until you are well).

This is the only thing I've heard that makes sense.

There's alot of KC haters. Don't forget he led them to the best record in NFL that year.

And he led the same team to 0-6 the next year when VY went 8-2 with the same team.

 

[jackdubl]

the coach told the owner not to draft the quarterback. The owner insisted, and the coach has had a grand case of penis envy every since. The result is every time the quarterback is injured, the coach promptly promotes quarterback number two to quarterback number one and basically tells ex-quarterback number one you lost your job period (not you have lost your job until you are well).

This is the only thing I've heard that makes sense.

There's alot of KC haters. Don't forget he led them to the best record in NFL that year.

Yeah, but let's also not forget the next season.

 

[mcintyre1]

Tweeted by Vince Young

Will prove to them again that I'm still focused[/b]. With pride and much love to my true fans.

Translate that please...

This is as close as I can get.

My gawd God, if that is his true gasp grasp of the english English language, Fisher must feel like he's having holes drilled in his front teeth when trying to talk x's and o's with this guy.

FTFY

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Team win game, QB's don't.

John Fox is that you?

QB can't throw without blockers, can'r make completions without receivers. Yes, they have the most impact on a team, but they do not win or lose the game by themselves.

 

[guderian]

The people who think Young is a good QB because his TEAM won 2/3rds of those games are probably the same people who thought Trent Dilfer was a good QB.

Dont' flip-flop the argument. People have said that he 'stinks' and that is merely one of the many pieces of evidence that he doesn't along with the 98.6 passer rating, 10/3 TD/INT ratio, 60% completion percentage, 8.0 yards per attempt, and the 5.0 yards per rush. The Titans were 4-12 before he got there and they went 8-8 the subsequent year, they were 0-6 last year with Collins and 8-2 with Young. He stunk his 2nd year, but the last couple of year's he's been quite solid and repeatedly gets benched for it. Anyway, there isn't much in the way of free agent QBs this year, Fisher will get his wish of relying on Kerry Collins unchallenged for 2011.

What is this, fun with numbers? He's has a lifetime QB rating of 75, 54 TD to 54 Turnovers, and a career completion percentage of 57%. 'HE' didn't win but a handful of games himself, his 'TEAM' won 2/3rds of the games he played with a great RB, nice offensive line, and a solid defense. He has been mediocre at best. You don't get paid the money he is getting paid for mediocre and then throw in his lack of work ethic, off field issues, and possible coaching issues. He might not be the worst QB in the league, but they could certainly do better for that amount of money and off field headaches. Bud Adams loves him because Adams is a middle finger waving lunatic who thinks he is sticking it to the state of Texas by having Young in Tennessee. The problem is everyone outside of Austin doesn't care about Young anymore. Vodka Collins and some scrub rookie aren't the answer obviously, but if Young did the things they said he did(and I'm not saying he did), then the coach not doing something about it will lose his team. Fisher made the right decision. Young isn't Favre, and Chilly kissing Favre's ### is costing him his job.

Have you heard of career progression??? Where a QB improves year-to-year??? Ignore his 100 QB rating this year and chastise him for his more mediocre first two years? The TEAM that was 4-12 before he got there won 2/3rds of it's games with HIM at QB subsequently. And Vodka Collins and Rusty Smith are the answer--there aren't any first-rate free agent QBs this year. I

 

[jackdubl]

Tweeted by Vince Young

Will prove to them again that I'm still focused[/b]. With pride and much love to my true fans.

Translate that please...

This is as close as I can get.

My gawd God, if that is his true gasp grasp of the english English language, Fisher must feel like he's having holes drilled in his front teeth when trying to talk x's and o's with this guy.

FTFY

I think the gawd was done on purpose.

 

[guderian]

Can you elaborate?He went 12-16 165 0-0 and had a fumble lost early on.

Watch him when he runs...the ball is in one hand out away from his body. He was lucky it was only one fumble.He does not take care of the ball when he runs.

Many QBs can't run, period. The fact he is a dual threat is a plus IMO. His stats were good and his team was in position to win the football game. I really think folks are thinking with their FF minds instead of what NFL personnel are looking at Young. Young is not Manning, Brady or Rivers, never will be but he brings a different set of skills and can lead teams to wins in this league. Young is noit the guy you want to throw 40 times most weeks. He needs a good ground game behind him but he can hurt defenses when they pinch up and stop the run. He also is without Kenny Britt right now was was killing it when he was in their earlier this season. 12 of 16 is a 75% completion rate...pretty good. Young's QB ratng this season is up to 97.6 and he has 10 TD vs 3 Int...he's pretty go at not losing football games on his own.

Watch him play...don't just look at the stats yesterday. Watch him play.I was wrong in calling him just bad yesterday...but it went beyond what the overall stats were.It simply was not great QB play at all...

So the stats are good, the W/L record with him is good, but we're supposed to conclude he sucks as a QB because if we "watch him play" we'll see him carry the ball away from his body? You'd think that all of this 'bad" play would show up somewhere...

 

[Bri]

the coach told the owner not to draft the quarterback. The owner insisted, and the coach has had a grand case of penis envy every since. The result is every time the quarterback is injured, the coach promptly promotes quarterback number two to quarterback number one and basically tells ex-quarterback number one you lost your job period (not you have lost your job until you are well).

This is the only thing I've heard that makes sense.

There's alot of KC haters. Don't forget he led them to the best record in NFL that year.

And he led the same team to 0-6 the next year when VY went 8-2 with the same team.

Yeah so what's the prob with Fisher's choices? Seems like he's making the right ones

 

[FavreCo]

FTFY

I think the gawd was done on purpose.

It was. mcintyre1...weak.

 

[guderian]

As a Niners fan, I'll be happy to see VY in SF. Seems to me he's not the most mature of players but so what?

I'd love to have my guy be a great qb AND an emotional leader. But that's quite rare. If I can only have one of the two, I'm going to take the immature whiny brat who wins game after game.

Amazing. I mean it has gotten to the point were it's as if it's Vince Young vs the other team. Somehow he is the one winning these games. He's a game manager on his best days. He's horrific if he has to play a stellar D. - Pittsburgh. Also, it takes one helluva a defense for a game manager led team to win it all. Trent Dilfer.

Dilfer's a career 70 rated QB, with more INTs than TDs and a 6.5 Yards/attempt average. Young is already better than him on each metric and Young's stats have been improving dramatically.Young is currently #5 in QB rating--ahead of Manning, Brees, Ryan, Flacco, Shaub, Rodgers...

Young is currently #4 in Yards/Attempt...

His 10/3 TD/INT ratio is better than everyone but Brady, Cassel, Ryan, Vick and Roethilsberger...

So quit pretending that the ONLY argument in Young's favor is his W/L record. The only argument you have left is a tweet...

 

[guderian]

As a Niners fan, I'll be happy to see VY in SF. Seems to me he's not the most mature of players but so what?

I'd love to have my guy be a great qb AND an emotional leader. But that's quite rare. If I can only have one of the two, I'm going to take the immature whiny brat who wins game after game.

Amazing. I mean it has gotten to the point were it's as if it's Vince Young vs the other team. Somehow he is the one winning these games. He's a game manager on his best days. He's horrific if he has to play a stellar D. - Pittsburgh. Also, it takes one helluva a defense for a game manager led team to win it all. Trent Dilfer.

You're simply hilarious.People all mover this board criticized VY for years for not being enough of a game manager. Now that he's become more of a game manager, then raised his passer rating by successfully taking more shots down the field starting with the Dallas game, you criticize him for being too much of a game manager.

No. I'm saying that's the best he can ever hope to be. Because of that, the requrements of a vince young QB'ed team are a stellar defense in order to win an NFL championship. History shows that. Thus he is a total waste of time.Waiting for your 'all he does is win games' so I can hit you up again with Kerry Collins 2008 and watch you disappear again.

You must have a serious reading comprehension problem. No one says "ALL" he does is win games...again, he has a 100 QB rating this year. It's just that none of the ignorant factors that you've cited have shown up ANYWHERE--not in the stats and not in the W/L record. If he's so bad, where does it show up???

 

[guderian]

As you are now. Vince Young lover. Vince has ZERO playoff wins. And I think Collins is a serviceable backup.That's it. Young is barely that. I use Collins as the counter to your ridiculous claim that vince young wins the games for the titans. He doesn't. Otherwise you would admit that Kerry Collins win games for the titans. You never do, do you. You can't win this.

Oh my...What on earth are you talking about. Where did I ever say KC never won a game for the Titans? Please feel free to quote me. You are correct. Vince is 0-1 in playoff games. You really like to pound on that like he's 0-10 or something.You're also right that I won't win this. There's no winning an argument with a raving lunatic.

No. You won't ever mention that kerry Collins wins games. You just repeatedly say that Vince young wins games. I continue to point out that he doesn't. That the team wins the games and Young is the QB. Just as they did in 2008 with Kerry Collins. Mention the part about kerry Collins winning games (Just like vince) for the titans in 2008 for me.

The point that you keep failing to grasp is that the W/L argument is not the sole argument--it's just the argument that you think you can knock down. Collins had a 65 rating last year, Young was 82. Collins has a 79 rating this year, Young is 100. Young is better than Collins on any metric--rating, comp%, Y/attempt, TD/INT, and of course Rushing. And the gap isn't close.

 

[guderian]

the coach told the owner not to draft the quarterback. The owner insisted, and the coach has had a grand case of penis envy every since. The result is every time the quarterback is injured, the coach promptly promotes quarterback number two to quarterback number one and basically tells ex-quarterback number one you lost your job period (not you have lost your job until you are well).

This is the only thing I've heard that makes sense.

There's alot of KC haters. Don't forget he led them to the best record in NFL that year.

And he led the same team to 0-6 the next year when VY went 8-2 with the same team.

That was because of the defense/Chris Johnson/schedule/fairies/pixy dust. VY had nothing to do with the turn-around. Teams lose games 59-0 all the time and go on to win 80% of their next games. They would have gone 10-0 if Young hadn't held them back.

 

[bmetz]

VY is officially headed to IR.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

VY is officially headed to IR.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/th...jured-reserve/1

 

[FavreCo]

As you are now. Vince Young lover. Vince has ZERO playoff wins. And I think Collins is a serviceable backup.That's it. Young is barely that. I use Collins as the counter to your ridiculous claim that vince young wins the games for the titans. He doesn't. Otherwise you would admit that Kerry Collins win games for the titans. You never do, do you. You can't win this.

Oh my...What on earth are you talking about. Where did I ever say KC never won a game for the Titans? Please feel free to quote me. You are correct. Vince is 0-1 in playoff games. You really like to pound on that like he's 0-10 or something.You're also right that I won't win this. There's no winning an argument with a raving lunatic.

No. You won't ever mention that kerry Collins wins games. You just repeatedly say that Vince young wins games. I continue to point out that he doesn't. That the team wins the games and Young is the QB. Just as they did in 2008 with Kerry Collins. Mention the part about kerry Collins winning games (Just like vince) for the titans in 2008 for me.

The point that you keep failing to grasp is that the W/L argument is not the sole argument--it's just the argument that you think you can knock down. Collins had a 65 rating last year, Young was 82. Collins has a 79 rating this year, Young is 100. Young is better than Collins on any metric--rating, comp%, Y/attempt, TD/INT, and of course Rushing. And the gap isn't close.

QB rating. Who cares. When you reply, I'll show you why it means jack ####.

 

[Insein]

Bottomline, Fischer isn't going anywhere. VY needs to go.

 

[gotexansgo]

So again where was Fisher wrong here? VY was seriously injured and then threw a temper tantrum? Yet Fisher gets hate, I dont get it

 

[LittlePhatty]

So again where was Fisher wrong here? VY was seriously injured and then threw a temper tantrum? Yet Fisher gets hate, I dont get it

It's from Longhorn fans who think Fisher is intentionally undermining Young's shot at an NFL career.Myself, I've seen enough of Vince to realize he doesn't have what it takes at this level and I hope he moves on to another team.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I'm on the get rid of Fisher AND VY train.But...as it pertain's to Fisher's 5 year disdain of VY and those who defend Fisher by saying that VY is no good:VY's qb rating yesterday was 107.6VY's qb rating on the season is 98.6 (5th in entire NFL behind only Vick, Big Ben, Rivers, and Brady).VY's yards per attemp this season ranks as 4th best in the NFL (Vick, Rivers, Big Ben).Is he great? No...but you could win with him if you'd let him play and have his back. Fisher, frankly, is undermined his own team's success by not riding VY.

So again where was Fisher wrong here? VY was seriously injured and then threw a temper tantrum? Yet Fisher gets hate, I dont get it

It's from Longhorn fans who think Fisher is intentionally undermining Young's shot at an NFL career.Myself, I've seen enough of Vince to realize he doesn't have what it takes at this level and I hope he moves on to another team.

I'm not a Longhorn fan. Nor am I a Titans fan. It's clear VY doesn't take things as seriously as we'd like. Yet despite his maturity (or lack thereof), it's just as clear he's a pretty damned good qb. Yet his HC benches him at every turn.I love the haters. If someone points out his winning percent, y'all say his win loss record is meaningless! If we mention his ypa, it's dismissed. If he bring up his touchdown to interception ratio, it's scoffed at. If we bring up his qb rating we're told it's overrated and misleading.So...what's the problem? Is he a future hall of famer? No. Is he in the top half of nfl starting quarterbacks? You bet.But by every major stat, he's a good qb. For those who don't like stats and like to count 'intangibles' (which means winning despite looking ugly), he wins a lot more games than he loses. So tell me...by what standard should we measure Vince Young? It seems plenty of you hate the guy and won't change your mind no matter what facts you come across. I used to hate this guy. I thought he would be a bust. I was wrong. You should admit it as well.

 

[Don Quixote]

So again where was Fisher wrong here? VY was seriously injured and then threw a temper tantrum? Yet Fisher gets hate, I dont get it

He announced that Rusty Smith would be starting over VY this week even before the extent of VY's injury was known.

 

[NorrisB]

As you are now. Vince Young lover. Vince has ZERO playoff wins. And I think Collins is a serviceable backup.That's it. Young is barely that. I use Collins as the counter to your ridiculous claim that vince young wins the games for the titans. He doesn't. Otherwise you would admit that Kerry Collins win games for the titans. You never do, do you. You can't win this.

Oh my...What on earth are you talking about. Where did I ever say KC never won a game for the Titans? Please feel free to quote me. You are correct. Vince is 0-1 in playoff games. You really like to pound on that like he's 0-10 or something.You're also right that I won't win this. There's no winning an argument with a raving lunatic.

Come on man give it up the guy is a bust

 

[gotexansgo]

So again where was Fisher wrong here? VY was seriously injured and then threw a temper tantrum? Yet Fisher gets hate, I dont get it

He announced that Rusty Smith would be starting over VY this week even before the extent of VY's injury was known.

They had a good idea before the game was over it was a serious injury...VY acting like a spoiled brat not getting his way deserved to lose his job.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I'm on the get rid of Fisher AND VY train.But...as it pertain's to Fisher's 5 year disdain of VY and those who defend Fisher by saying that VY is no good:VY's qb rating yesterday was 107.6VY's qb rating on the season is 98.6 (5th in entire NFL behind only Vick, Big Ben, Rivers, and Brady).VY's yards per attemp this season ranks as 4th best in the NFL (Vick, Rivers, Big Ben).Is he great? No...but you could win with him if you'd let him play and have his back. Fisher, frankly, is undermined his own team's success by not riding VY.

As you are now. Vince Young lover. Vince has ZERO playoff wins. And I think Collins is a serviceable backup.That's it. Young is barely that. I use Collins as the counter to your ridiculous claim that vince young wins the games for the titans. He doesn't. Otherwise you would admit that Kerry Collins win games for the titans. You never do, do you. You can't win this.

Oh my...What on earth are you talking about. Where did I ever say KC never won a game for the Titans? Please feel free to quote me. You are correct. Vince is 0-1 in playoff games. You really like to pound on that like he's 0-10 or something.You're also right that I won't win this. There's no winning an argument with a raving lunatic.

Come on man give it up the guy is a bust

As a Niners fan, I would learn how to do backflips if our bust quarterback played that well.