Void Trade? Mendy for David Nelson (1 Viewer)

[solorca]

Early in the season last year I offered up my early round WR that had underperformed for a waiver wire wonder from another team because I was desperate for immediate help at RB. My commissioner vetoed that trade on the basis that I was getting screwed over because I was desperate.

The WR was Randy Moss and the RB was Peyton Hillis. Needless to say, I'm no longer in that league.

 

[Johnny Blood]

Dissolve the league if you veto this. Absolutely ridiculous to even think of vetoing this. Who gives a crap where Mendy was drafted, and you sound like Nostradamus claiming that there are just as good of receivers on the WW.

Just as good *in your opinion*. Nelson could be the beast WW pickup of the year for all you know.

I don't understand what it is about fantasy football that makes people want to control how other people play the game. It's sad.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

An 0-3 guy just traded Mendy for David Nelson to a 3-0 team. There is no colusion just

desperation. The numbers so far this season make it unvoidable but can you void it on

what you think will happen in the future?

Jay

Lol, wut?Soooo...even if there's no collusion and the trade should not be vetoed, should you STILL be able to void a trade because what you predict will happen in the future differs from what another person predicts will happen in the future?

Is that the serious question?

The guy trading away Mendy can provide a rational reason, based on his personal opinion, as to why he would rather have Nelson (which is legitimate, although I don't have the same opinion).

How do leagues that allow league voting on trades still exist?

How are people still agreeing to join these leagues?

These threads provide a valuable warning to all ff players.

 

[duaneok66]

another joke veto thread . . .

 

[BobbyLayne]

You should void the 0-3 Mendy owner. You will never have a quality league with dumb and/or desperate owners willing to trade away first round picks for waiver wire guys three weeks into the season. Unless it's just a "for fun" league....in which case, why even start this thread?

Hey Bill. Good to see you again. I was afraid they IP banned you, which would be a shame considering comedy you bring to the Shark Pool every year.2008

2009

One might think after three, four years, you would get it.

Nope. Maybe next year, eh.

 

[Furious Yeti]

Were only 3 weeks into the season!...a bit early to equate the two as equals.

While it's not a trade I'd make, after next week, we're 1/4 of the way into the NFL season and more than that through the regular fantasy football season. Where do you draw the line? Do we have to wait until half the season's over before we can start ranking players based on performance instead of pre-season draft cheat sheets?

Well there are 13 games left for most leagues and it IS early. It's normal every year for guys to panic and get rid of studs because of slow starts, but that is a suspicious move based on who was on the waivers.

 

[doeseatplace]

Some owners just get a rush out of trading, unlike most of us who gamble on the waiver wire

And fantasy football is gambling.....this guy just believes that its a sharp bet to dump Rashard for Nelson, as opposed to gambling on Torrey Smith or Victor Cruz. And he's willing to lay a likely first round pick that he succeeds

As a multi-year Mendenhall owner and a current Nelson owner, I'm not sure he isn't right

 

[Gopher State]

based on the numbers looks like a fair trade. take a deep breath

 

[bakes]

An 0-3 guy just traded Mendy for David Nelson to a 3-0 team. There is no colusion just

desperation. The numbers so far this season make it unvoidable but can you void it on

what you think will happen in the future?

Jay

If you void the trade and Mendy blows an ACL this week and Nelson goes for 150/2, what will you tell the 0-3 (make that 0-4) team?

No idea but as a Mendy owner I'll likely box your ears... What sort of depth does the 0-3 guy have at RB/WR? The 3-0 guy at RB/WR? I'd likely not void it just because it's not THAT farfetched and they could both have needs.

 

[Pnishthm]

I threw this out there because it's an interesting case of an 0-3 guy doing anything he canto win now and quit waiting for his 2nd round pick to wake up and how long to any of uswait for that early pick to get going. Unfortunately, the same 0-3 guy took Chris Johnsonwith the 4th pick in the draft-- so his is desparate. It can be a lond season when your one and only team sucks (I'm a lifelong Seahawks fan, I know). I can't veto this becasue there is no collusion and the numbers aren't that far off. Those ofus that are uncomfortable can't get over giving up the 17th pick in the draft for a waiver wirewonder. I can't veto it and will resist the complaints of the other owners but I hate to seea guy panic and another player give up nothing for a potential difference maker.

You should commend this 0-3 owner for being proactive and not just sitting back doing nothing and watching his team fall to 1-9 or something. I get amazed at how many owners just sit back and do nothing when their team is in last. I know owners who will let their team just lose week after week and still won't make a trade unless they are robbing somebody. You can bet if I am 0-3 i am making trades...what does this guy have to lose?

 

[Limp Ditka]

You should void the 0-3 Mendy owner. You will never have a quality league with dumb and/or desperate owners willing to trade away first round picks for waiver wire guys three weeks into the season. Unless it's just a "for fun" league....in which case, why even start this thread?

Hey Bill. Good to see you again. I was afraid they IP banned you, which would be a shame considering comedy you bring to the Shark Pool every year.2008

2009

One might think after three, four years, you would get it.

Nope. Maybe next year, eh.

bill's one of those Shark Pool treasures that just keeps giving and giving. It's really a damn shame that he doesn't post more often.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

As someone that believes the commissioner should run all teams in a league, this deal should be voided.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Why in the world would anyone void this trade. Totally fair and at this point maybe you have to question why someone would want Mendy.

The more upside is probably Nelson. Steelers oline is not going to get better and neither is their defense which will force them into lots of passing games over run

 

[ldizzle]

An 0-3 guy just traded Mendy for David Nelson to a 3-0 team. There is no colusion just

desperation. The numbers so far this season make it unvoidable but can you void it on

what you think will happen in the future?

Jay

If you void the trade and Mendy blows an ACL this week and Nelson goes for 150/2, what will you tell the 0-3 (make that 0-4) team?

No idea but as a Mendy owner I'll likely box your ears... What sort of depth does the 0-3 guy have at RB/WR? The 3-0 guy at RB/WR? I'd likely not void it just because it's not THAT farfetched and they could both have needs.

Interesting, no acl but do u still box his ears?

 

[bagger]

An 0-3 guy just traded Mendy for David Nelson to a 3-0 team. There is no colusion justdesperation. The numbers so far this season make it unvoidable but can you void it on what you think will happen in the future?Jay

i have nelson and would not trade him for mendenhall.

 

[bagger]

There are arguably better WR's available as free agents Manningham, Decker, Rice, D Moore. He could have had them for free.

no.

 

[AmosMoses]

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[De Novo]

There are arguably better WR's available as free agents Manningham, Decker, Rice, D Moore. He could have had them for free.

This is one of the problems of playing with guppies. Do you step in to protect themselves or do you let them do whatever they want? In guppy leagues, if you're going to use judgment about how balanced a trade is, you may as well go with a league vote. I think it's an awful option, but I also think playing in a league where the 4 above players is awful.

 

[packersfan]

An 0-3 guy just traded Mendy for David Nelson to a 3-0 team. There is no colusion justdesperation. The numbers so far this season make it unvoidable but can you void it on what you think will happen in the future?Jay

i have nelson and would not trade him for mendenhall.

Given what's transpired the last two games with Nelson I'd be thrilled if someone in my league offered me Mendy for him - even with the hamstring injury.

 

[ponchsox]

An 0-3 guy just traded Mendy for David Nelson to a 3-0 team. There is no colusion justdesperation. The numbers so far this season make it unvoidable but can you void it on what you think will happen in the future?Jay

i have nelson and would not trade him for mendenhall.

That's great. If you haven't noticed Nelson hasn't done anything since his big week 2 game.

 

[schooner44]

An 0-3 guy just traded Mendy for David Nelson to a 3-0 team. There is no colusion just

desperation. The numbers so far this season make it unvoidable but can you void it on

what you think will happen in the future?

Jay

The bolded excerpt answers your own question. Trades shoudl be vetoed if, and only if, collusion is present.

 

[bagger]

An 0-3 guy just traded Mendy for David Nelson to a 3-0 team. There is no colusion justdesperation. The numbers so far this season make it unvoidable but can you void it on what you think will happen in the future?Jay

i have nelson and would not trade him for mendenhall.

That's great. If you haven't noticed Nelson hasn't done anything since his big week 2 game.

Nelson's game by game #s:1 10.60 at Chiefs 4 66 6 2 24.30 vs Raiders 10 83 1 13 3 14.40 vs Patriots 6 84 8 4 3.80 at Bengals 2 18 3 Mendenhalls:1 4.50 at Ravens 12 45 1 12 15.80 vs Seahawks 19 66 1 0 2 12 23 7.60 at Colts 18 37 0 3 9 44 8.50 at Texans 9 25 1 0 Seems to me Nelson is a more than solid WR3 with some upside on a dynamic offense.Mendenhall is a RB on a poor offense and is really not even startable unless he can score a TD, and even then it is marginal. I could find more RBs on the waiver wire to replace Mendenhall than I could to find Nelson.Regardless, the fact we are having this debate means the commish would be a fool to veto this.

 

[SWC]

i would probably let the trade go and then kick both owners out the league one for ever being the type of yumyum who offers at that kind of trade i hate those yahoos and the other guys for accepting it and then i would probably kick out he rest of the leage for not making a huge stink and shaming both playwers into renouncing the trade beause if they wont do that i dont want to play with them

 

[Hugonel]

Not critical of your question. But I'd quit a league that voided such a trade. Even if the teams were colluding you can't say that's voidable.

 

[packersfan]

Not critical of your question. But I'd quit a league that voided such a trade. Even if the teams were colluding you can't say that's voidable.

I don't like voiding trades but this one does not strike me as being balanced. Mendenhall is a potential Top 10 RB with a proven track record of high-level production who's off to a terrible start. Nelson has had 21/2 good games and has regressed badly since then. Of the two, I think the chances are greater that Mendenhall regains consistent value than Nelson. Again, I don't like voiding trades but if a trade like this went down in my league I wouldn't be very happy about it.

 

[Crazy Tony]

You can't void a trade based on opinion w/o backing up #s.

It's OK to allow it and make a note that you think this is bad move. If owner is tanking and giving up...offer to lock his team and edit lineup based on highest projected player for each week in that position.

RB1 that's hurt usually better than WR2 or WR3.

In spite of that I would make some offers for his starters. Then suggest he pick up some of the FAs you mentioned above.

No owner wants to lose the title because they lost in the finals to a guy that made a controversial trade and was stacked.

 

[Ghost Rider]

That's great. If you haven't noticed Nelson hasn't done anything since his big week 2 game.

6-84 (which would be 96-1,344 over a 16-game season) is nothing?

 

[The Doctor]

There are arguably better WR's available as free agents Manningham, Decker, Rice, D Moore. He could have

had them for free.

Wouldn't he need to drop a player to get one of them?

yeahnot mendy

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

An 0-3 guy just traded Mendy for David Nelson to a 3-0 team. There is no colusion just

desperation. The numbers so far this season make it unvoidable but can you void it on

what you think will happen in the future?

Jay

Wait - you can void the trade based on what you think will happen in the future.......but he can't accept the trade based on what he thinks will happen in the future?