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W. Parker claims no torn labrum (1 Viewer)

I think the Steelers believe Parker will be playing at some point this season. Otherwise he would be on IR and they wouldn't have released Davenport.

 
I think there is zero doubt that mewelde is the better fit at rb for Pitt. They have become a throwing team, and he is great at that. I think he might even be a better runner than FWP. Next season, someone has to give MeMo a starting job. I think he can be a monster...

 
I think there is zero doubt that mewelde is the better fit at rb for Pitt. They have become a throwing team, and he is great at that. I think he might even be a better runner than FWP. Next season, someone has to give MeMo a starting job. I think he can be a monster...
Agreed. I think the "light" finally come on for MeMo... either that or the opportunity for consistent playing time has finally come.
 
I think there is zero doubt that mewelde is the better fit at rb for Pitt. They have become a throwing team, and he is great at that. I think he might even be a better runner than FWP. Next season, someone has to give MeMo a starting job. I think he can be a monster...
Agreed. I think the "light" finally come on for MeMo... either that or the opportunity for consistent playing time has finally come.
After what he did in Minny, I've never understood why he didn't get a shot somewhere.
 
I think there is zero doubt that mewelde is the better fit at rb for Pitt. They have become a throwing team, and he is great at that. I think he might even be a better runner than FWP. Next season, someone has to give MeMo a starting job. I think he can be a monster...
They have become a "throwing team" precisely because Parker isn't playing. They're a much better team when they have him running. If you think Moore is a better runner than Parker, you haven't been watching.
 
Reports have Parker coming back week 11 now.
Why would he do that? You think he's afraid of losing his starting job?
Yeah. I think Moore's 2.5 ypc against the terrifying Indy defense has him worried. :hifive:
Its painfully obvious you didnt watch the game.
I didn't miss a single play.You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
 
Reports have Parker coming back week 11 now.
Why would he do that? You think he's afraid of losing his starting job?
Yeah. I think Moore's 2.5 ypc against the terrifying Indy defense has him worried. :moneybag:
Its painfully obvious you didnt watch the game.
I didn't miss a single play.You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.

I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
How do you know that?.....I guess I have a hard time seeing the difference between these two, except the fact the Moore can stay in the lineup when given the chance.Mewelde Moore 93 rushes 377 yards 4.1 ypc 5 TD's

Willie Parker 87 rushes 333 yards 3.8 ypc 4 TD's

 
I think there is zero doubt that mewelde is the better fit at rb for Pitt. They have become a throwing team, and he is great at that. I think he might even be a better runner than FWP. Next season, someone has to give MeMo a starting job. I think he can be a monster...
They have become a "throwing team" precisely because Parker isn't playing. They're a much better team when they have him running. If you think Moore is a better runner than Parker, you haven't been watching.
Agreed.
 
I think there is zero doubt that mewelde is the better fit at rb for Pitt. They have become a throwing team, and he is great at that. I think he might even be a better runner than FWP. Next season, someone has to give MeMo a starting job. I think he can be a monster...
They have become a "throwing team" precisely because Parker isn't playing. They're a much better team when they have him running. If you think Moore is a better runner than Parker, you haven't been watching.
Agreed.
Without a doubt. Without Parker in there, Pittsburgh tries to be a dink-and-dunk team and that forces Rothelesberger into mistakes. The Steelers are built for the power running game that Parker provides them.Moore has certainly earned playing time upon Parker's return, but the Steelers just aren't the Steelers with Moore back there. No way they lose that home game if they had a back getting more than 2.3 yards per carry back there.
 
I think there is zero doubt that mewelde is the better fit at rb for Pitt. They have become a throwing team, and he is great at that. I think he might even be a better runner than FWP. Next season, someone has to give MeMo a starting job. I think he can be a monster...
They have become a "throwing team" precisely because Parker isn't playing. They're a much better team when they have him running. If you think Moore is a better runner than Parker, you haven't been watching.
Agreed.
actually, they became a passing team last year. Check the numbers...
 
Willie Parker-RB- Steelers Nov. 10 - 8:43 am et

Willie Parker told ESPN's Bob Holtzman that his body is "beat up" but no one has told him he has a torn labrum.

Maybe that explains why Parker is playing next week. FWP said he first learned of his alleged injury in a call from his agent Sunday morning. It sounds like he's telling the truth.

Source: ESPN.com

 
Reports have Parker coming back week 11 now.
Why would he do that? You think he's afraid of losing his starting job?
Yeah. I think Moore's 2.5 ypc against the terrifying Indy defense has him worried. :thumbup:
Its painfully obvious you didnt watch the game.
I didn't miss a single play.You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
What are the season YPC between Parker and Moore? Add the fact that Moore is the better receiver, and that tells me that Moore has been better than Parker this year and gives Pittsburgh a better chance to win.
 
The fact is, Pittsburgh lost 3 games. Two of the losts they let the opponent score 20+ points on them. The only lost they had where they didn't have at least 14 points was against Philly where they lost 15 to 6. So are the Pitts losing because they don't have a power running game? No, its because their defense let them down. If anyone saw Indy yesterday, no one would say Pittsburgh lost that game, everyone would say Indy won it. Peyton dominated that game. In most games, if you said Pittsburgh scored 20 points, I'd say they won it.

 
Reports have Parker coming back week 11 now.
Why would he do that? You think he's afraid of losing his starting job?
Yeah. I think Moore's 2.5 ypc against the terrifying Indy defense has him worried. :thumbdown:
Its painfully obvious you didnt watch the game.
I didn't miss a single play.You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
What are the season YPC between Parker and Moore? Add the fact that Moore is the better receiver, and that tells me that Moore has been better than Parker this year and gives Pittsburgh a better chance to win.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
 
Reports have Parker coming back week 11 now.
Why would he do that? You think he's afraid of losing his starting job?
Yeah. I think Moore's 2.5 ypc against the terrifying Indy defense has him worried. :lmao:
Its painfully obvious you didnt watch the game.
I didn't miss a single play.You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
What are the season YPC between Parker and Moore? Add the fact that Moore is the better receiver, and that tells me that Moore has been better than Parker this year and gives Pittsburgh a better chance to win.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
Maybe I was drunk yesterday but weren't the conditions of the field horrible? Wasnt it a monsoon for a big portion of the game? Plus the fact that he had 2 td's and another stopped on the goalline. He is as involved in the passing game as I have ever seen a Pitt RB. I think the reason they lost was Ben throwing a pick on the wrong side of the 50.
 
Reports have Parker coming back week 11 now.
Why would he do that? You think he's afraid of losing his starting job?
Yeah. I think Moore's 2.5 ypc against the terrifying Indy defense has him worried. :lmao:
Its painfully obvious you didnt watch the game.
I didn't miss a single play.You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
What are the season YPC between Parker and Moore? Add the fact that Moore is the better receiver, and that tells me that Moore has been better than Parker this year and gives Pittsburgh a better chance to win.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
not much of an analytical thinker are you? Just because he was behind 2 guys on a depth chart automatically means he's the 3rd best rb on the team?!? Awfully simple minded analysis there. To the others stating that his 2.3 ypc is what lost the game yesterday, you are wrong. The picks lost the game yesterday. THrowing that pick at the end of the 1st half was pure garbage. Peyton has made a career off cashing off these types of mistakes and inflating the opponent's momentum by scoring off these pics. The defense lost that game. If not for marvin's butterfingers, they would have won by 2 touchdowns+. Having said all that, MeMo is the more dynamic back. FWP is good, but is 1 dimensional. MeMo is not as fast, but can do everything else FWP can do, and then some. Mark my words, he will be a featured back somewhere next year, possibly in Pittsburg...
 
Reports have Parker coming back week 11 now.
Why would he do that? You think he's afraid of losing his starting job?
Yeah. I think Moore's 2.5 ypc against the terrifying Indy defense has him worried. :rolleyes:
Its painfully obvious you didnt watch the game.
I didn't miss a single play.You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
What are the season YPC between Parker and Moore? Add the fact that Moore is the better receiver, and that tells me that Moore has been better than Parker this year and gives Pittsburgh a better chance to win.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
Lots of reasons why a depth chart takes the shape it does...Loyalty to veteransHigh priced, big name rookiesOnly so many 1st team snaps to evaluate how players fit in a systemPreceding reputation slotting players into roles.Mewelde Moore's situation in PIT fits a number of these criteria. He was brought in to be the 3rd down back. I doubt that he got any serious time in camp to "try out" for the starter role. That was already designated to be FWP's job. Then you land a highly touted rookie, the future bell-cow back, and you slot him as the primary backup. Given the circumstances that have evolved, Moore has been pressed into this role, and has looked as good as FWP running the ball ( the Indy game not withstanding ) and looks much better in the passing game. He might well be a better overall fit for the offense as it is today. That said, FWP will be the starter and lead back if healthy. I just would expect to see the workload split a bit differently, to include Moore a bit more in the base offense, and not just on 3rd downs.It doesn't mean Tomlin "hopes to lose" but I think the depth chart at certain positions are dictated more by situation than by play on the field, especially in the preseason.
 
The fact is, Pittsburgh lost 3 games. Two of the losts they let the opponent score 20+ points on them. The only lost they had where they didn't have at least 14 points was against Philly where they lost 15 to 6. So are the Pitts losing because they don't have a power running game? No, its because their defense let them down. If anyone saw Indy yesterday, no one would say Pittsburgh lost that game, everyone would say Indy won it. Peyton dominated that game. In most games, if you said Pittsburgh scored 20 points, I'd say they won it.
did you watch the game or just the highlights?!? Pitt absolutely gave that game away with key turnovers at key times in very very bad parts of the field...
 
I think there is zero doubt that mewelde is the better fit at rb for Pitt. They have become a throwing team, and he is great at that. I think he might even be a better runner than FWP. Next season, someone has to give MeMo a starting job. I think he can be a monster...
They have become a "throwing team" precisely because Parker isn't playing. They're a much better team when they have him running. If you think Moore is a better runner than Parker, you haven't been watching.
Agreed.
actually, they became a passing team last year. Check the numbers...
Yet Parker was leading the league in rushing yardage when he was injured.
 
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To the others stating that his 2.3 ypc is what lost the game yesterday, you are wrong. The picks lost the game yesterday. THrowing that pick at the end of the 1st half was pure garbage. Peyton has made a career off cashing off these types of mistakes and inflating the opponent's momentum by scoring off these pics. The defense lost that game. If not for marvin's butterfingers, they would have won by 2 touchdowns+. Having said all that, MeMo is the more dynamic back. FWP is good, but is 1 dimensional. MeMo is not as fast, but can do everything else FWP can do, and then some. Mark my words, he will be a featured back somewhere next year, possibly in Pittsburg...
I agree with much of what you say, except this. You may be right, but I was pretty convinced of this being true when he showed similar glances of his production up in MIN, and for some reason it never happened. It is extremely difficult to shed a label, and Mewelde Moore has a "3rd down back" label around the NFL, and I'm not sure this 5 game stretch erases it enough for him to get a feature role.
 
Reports have Parker coming back week 11 now.
Why would he do that? You think he's afraid of losing his starting job?
Yeah. I think Moore's 2.5 ypc against the terrifying Indy defense has him worried. :rolleyes:
Its painfully obvious you didnt watch the game.
I didn't miss a single play.You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
What are the season YPC between Parker and Moore? Add the fact that Moore is the better receiver, and that tells me that Moore has been better than Parker this year and gives Pittsburgh a better chance to win.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
Maybe I was drunk yesterday but weren't the conditions of the field horrible? Wasnt it a monsoon for a big portion of the game? Plus the fact that he had 2 td's and another stopped on the goalline. He is as involved in the passing game as I have ever seen a Pitt RB. I think the reason they lost was Ben throwing a pick on the wrong side of the 50.
Monsoon? It sprinkled. This may be the best shape Heinz Field has ever been in in November.
 
Also, wanting to key in on his 2.3 ypc for the game while ignoring his season ypc based on 'cupcake' schedule is the same as saying a rb would only have 34 yards if not for his 50 yard run and his 75 yard reception. It's called selective analysis. Makes the owner of said selective analysis look stupid...

 
The fact is, Pittsburgh lost 3 games. Two of the losts they let the opponent score 20+ points on them. The only lost they had where they didn't have at least 14 points was against Philly where they lost 15 to 6. So are the Pitts losing because they don't have a power running game? No, its because their defense let them down. If anyone saw Indy yesterday, no one would say Pittsburgh lost that game, everyone would say Indy won it. Peyton dominated that game. In most games, if you said Pittsburgh scored 20 points, I'd say they won it.
did you watch the game or just the highlights?!? Pitt absolutely gave that game away with key turnovers at key times in very very bad parts of the field...
If it wasn't for Marvin Harrison dropping two td passes, the game wouldn't have been close.
 
I think there is zero doubt that mewelde is the better fit at rb for Pitt. They have become a throwing team, and he is great at that. I think he might even be a better runner than FWP. Next season, someone has to give MeMo a starting job. I think he can be a monster...
They have become a "throwing team" precisely because Parker isn't playing. They're a much better team when they have him running. If you think Moore is a better runner than Parker, you haven't been watching.
Agreed.
actually, they became a passing team last year. Check the numbers...
Yet Parker was leading the league in rushing yardage when he was injured.
That is a great point. He was indeed leading the league in rushing, though they were scoring through the air for the most part. I think they changed philosophy post injury, but the fact remains that they have had a significant shift in ideology. They have fallen in love with big ben's ability, and you can't blame them too much. They could use an upgrade at WR to go strong with that philosophy, however. THough Hines is pretty ageless it seems.
 
Reports have Parker coming back week 11 now.
Why would he do that? You think he's afraid of losing his starting job?
Yeah. I think Moore's 2.5 ypc against the terrifying Indy defense has him worried. :rolleyes:
Its painfully obvious you didnt watch the game.
I didn't miss a single play.You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.

I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
What are the season YPC between Parker and Moore? Add the fact that Moore is the better receiver, and that tells me that Moore has been better than Parker this year and gives Pittsburgh a better chance to win.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.

If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
not much of an analytical thinker are you? Just because he was behind 2 guys on a depth chart automatically means he's the 3rd best rb on the team?!? Awfully simple minded analysis there. To the others stating that his 2.3 ypc is what lost the game yesterday, you are wrong. The picks lost the game yesterday. THrowing that pick at the end of the 1st half was pure garbage. Peyton has made a career off cashing off these types of mistakes and inflating the opponent's momentum by scoring off these pics. The defense lost that game. If not for marvin's butterfingers, they would have won by 2 touchdowns+. Having said all that, MeMo is the more dynamic back. FWP is good, but is 1 dimensional. MeMo is not as fast, but can do everything else FWP can do, and then some. Mark my words, he will be a featured back somewhere next year, possibly in Pittsburg...
I don't have the time or patience to explain how interceptions are often times the result of a pass rush, which is often times the result of a team pinning their ears back because of no running threat. If youy really think that Moore's inability to get anything going on the ground didn't contribute to Ben's bad passing, then I certainly can't say anything that'll make you understand.Also, people are blowing this guy's horn because he scored two one-yard touchdowns yesterday. On the second, he wasn't even touched. Leroy Hoard was also a great back, I guess. He scored a lot of one yard touchdowns, too.

 
Reports have Parker coming back week 11 now.
Why would he do that? You think he's afraid of losing his starting job?
Yeah. I think Moore's 2.5 ypc against the terrifying Indy defense has him worried. :goodposting:
Its painfully obvious you didnt watch the game.
I didn't miss a single play.You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.

I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
What are the season YPC between Parker and Moore? Add the fact that Moore is the better receiver, and that tells me that Moore has been better than Parker this year and gives Pittsburgh a better chance to win.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.

If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
not much of an analytical thinker are you? Just because he was behind 2 guys on a depth chart automatically means he's the 3rd best rb on the team?!? Awfully simple minded analysis there. To the others stating that his 2.3 ypc is what lost the game yesterday, you are wrong. The picks lost the game yesterday. THrowing that pick at the end of the 1st half was pure garbage. Peyton has made a career off cashing off these types of mistakes and inflating the opponent's momentum by scoring off these pics. The defense lost that game. If not for marvin's butterfingers, they would have won by 2 touchdowns+. Having said all that, MeMo is the more dynamic back. FWP is good, but is 1 dimensional. MeMo is not as fast, but can do everything else FWP can do, and then some. Mark my words, he will be a featured back somewhere next year, possibly in Pittsburg...
I don't have the time or patience to explain how interceptions are often times the result of a pass rush, which is often times the result of a team pinning their ears back because of no running threat. If youy really think that Moore's inability to get anything going on the ground didn't contribute to Ben's bad passing, then I certainly can't say anything that'll make you understand.Also, people are blowing this guy's horn because he scored two one-yard touchdowns yesterday. On the second, he wasn't even touched. Leroy Hoard was also a great back, I guess. He scored a lot of one yard touchdowns, too.
Actually, he has done a bit more than just score those 2 tds yesterday. Also, the cause of the int and the effect of the int are 2 seperate things. Regardless of what the CAUSE was, it had a huge detrimental EFFECT on the game. That was the point being made. Just because you don't have a running game, doesn't excuse picks inside your 20 at the end of a half that you are leading by 10 points. That is caused by poor judgement. Look up Brett Farve for case study...
 
The fact is, Pittsburgh lost 3 games. Two of the losts they let the opponent score 20+ points on them. The only lost they had where they didn't have at least 14 points was against Philly where they lost 15 to 6. So are the Pitts losing because they don't have a power running game? No, its because their defense let them down. If anyone saw Indy yesterday, no one would say Pittsburgh lost that game, everyone would say Indy won it. Peyton dominated that game. In most games, if you said Pittsburgh scored 20 points, I'd say they won it.
This might be the most uninformed Steelers post I've seen on the board this year.
 
I didn't miss a single play.

You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.

I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.

Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.

If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
You've said this twice now. Do you really think IND is a mediocre team? They've struggled the first half of this season but let's face it, they are a verteran team that is MUCH better than their record. A healthy Bob Sanders gives this defense a proven run stopping ability. And every week Manning is shaking the rust off and re-establishing the offense to what it is capable of. IND probably is too far behind to win the division, but they have as good a chance as any AFC team to get a wildcard bid. They will finish above .500 this season.

 
I posted the splits in another thread, the lead RB in this offense has gotten like 83% of the carries since Tomlin became head coach. This includes stints of Davenport, MeMo and Mendenhall being the lead back.

MeMo is USELESS if Parker is healthy (or at least active). I agree with the earlier assessment that this team is built for the power running game and that they view RB as disposable. My take is that Parker is going to be run until he is on IR and then Moore will take over fulltime.

 
I didn't miss a single play.

You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.

I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.

Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.

If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
You've said this twice now. Do you really think IND is a mediocre team? They've struggled the first half of this season but let's face it, they are a verteran team that is MUCH better than their record. A healthy Bob Sanders gives this defense a proven run stopping ability. And every week Manning is shaking the rust off and re-establishing the offense to what it is capable of.
No. I do not think Indy is a mediocre team, but I don't think they're as good as they have been. And I do think that Pittsburgh is a better team, especially at home. And I also think that Indy won that game by shutting down the Pittsburgh running game. Paker not playing was a big reason for that.To me, Moore has always been one of those guys who impressed the average fan more than he has team owners and coaches. Even with stiffs like Onterio Smith on the roster, Moore had trouble getting steady playing time in Minesota. Despite some performances that fans thought were special, he was never really able to win that starting job. I'm no coach, but maybe it's his blocking or his decision making with teh ball. Who knows? All I know is that he always seems to be a second or third stringer who puts up decent numbers when he gets a chance, but quickly goes back to theench when the regular gets healthy.

 
I didn't miss a single play.

You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.

I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.

Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.

If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
You've said this twice now. Do you really think IND is a mediocre team? They've struggled the first half of this season but let's face it, they are a verteran team that is MUCH better than their record. A healthy Bob Sanders gives this defense a proven run stopping ability. And every week Manning is shaking the rust off and re-establishing the offense to what it is capable of.
No. I do not think Indy is a mediocre team, but I don't think they're as good as they have been. And I do think that Pittsburgh is a better team, especially at home. And I also think that Indy won that game by shutting down the Pittsburgh running game. Paker not playing was a big reason for that.To me, Moore has always been one of those guys who impressed the average fan more than he has team owners and coaches. Even with stiffs like Onterio Smith on the roster, Moore had trouble getting steady playing time in Minesota. Despite some performances that fans thought were special, he was never really able to win that starting job. I'm no coach, but maybe it's his blocking or his decision making with teh ball. Who knows? All I know is that he always seems to be a second or third stringer who puts up decent numbers when he gets a chance, but quickly goes back to theench when the regular gets healthy.
I won't argue with that, I just was wondering if you thought that PIT was beat by an average team or a very good IND team that is finally playing to it's ability.
 
I didn't miss a single play.

You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.

I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.

Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.

If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
You've said this twice now. Do you really think IND is a mediocre team? They've struggled the first half of this season but let's face it, they are a verteran team that is MUCH better than their record. A healthy Bob Sanders gives this defense a proven run stopping ability. And every week Manning is shaking the rust off and re-establishing the offense to what it is capable of.
No. I do not think Indy is a mediocre team, but I don't think they're as good as they have been. And I do think that Pittsburgh is a better team, especially at home. And I also think that Indy won that game by shutting down the Pittsburgh running game. Paker not playing was a big reason for that.To me, Moore has always been one of those guys who impressed the average fan more than he has team owners and coaches. Even with stiffs like Onterio Smith on the roster, Moore had trouble getting steady playing time in Minesota. Despite some performances that fans thought were special, he was never really able to win that starting job. I'm no coach, but maybe it's his blocking or his decision making with teh ball. Who knows? All I know is that he always seems to be a second or third stringer who puts up decent numbers when he gets a chance, but quickly goes back to theench when the regular gets healthy.
You are wrong about Moore in Minnesota. I live in Minnesota and I can tell you the reason for Moore's demise here was his inability to play with pain. He was in Mike Tice's doghouse because of it, and THE reason why he was moved out of Minnesota. He's either able to play with pain now, or hasn't experienced any in Pittsburgh.
 
I didn't miss a single play.

You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.

I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.

Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.

If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
You've said this twice now. Do you really think IND is a mediocre team? They've struggled the first half of this season but let's face it, they are a verteran team that is MUCH better than their record. A healthy Bob Sanders gives this defense a proven run stopping ability. And every week Manning is shaking the rust off and re-establishing the offense to what it is capable of.
No. I do not think Indy is a mediocre team, but I don't think they're as good as they have been. And I do think that Pittsburgh is a better team, especially at home. And I also think that Indy won that game by shutting down the Pittsburgh running game. Paker not playing was a big reason for that.To me, Moore has always been one of those guys who impressed the average fan more than he has team owners and coaches. Even with stiffs like Onterio Smith on the roster, Moore had trouble getting steady playing time in Minesota. Despite some performances that fans thought were special, he was never really able to win that starting job. I'm no coach, but maybe it's his blocking or his decision making with teh ball. Who knows? All I know is that he always seems to be a second or third stringer who puts up decent numbers when he gets a chance, but quickly goes back to theench when the regular gets healthy.
You are wrong about Moore in Minnesota. I live in Minnesota and I can tell you the reason for Moore's demise here was his inability to play with pain. He was in Mike Tice's doghouse because of it, and THE reason why he was moved out of Minnesota. He's either able to play with pain now, or hasn't experienced any in Pittsburgh.
Like I said, I don't claim to know the reason, I just know that he's never been anything but an injury replacement. I think that his performance this year has probably earned him a spot as a legitimate third down back. He has great hands.
 
I didn't miss a single play.

You need to calm down. He had 57 yards on 24 carries. That's 2.375 yards per carry. This wasn't Baltimore. That's a very average game. In fact, when compared to other starting backs against Indy this year, it's a bad day.

I think he poses a threat as a receiver that Parker doesn't, which will earn him playing time as a third down back when Parker gets back, but let's not lose sight of teh fact that the Steelers lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. And largely because they couldn't establish a run game. That wouldn't have happened with Parker in there.
First off, I agree that Moore is the better receiver and believe he will get a lot of third down playing time when and if Parker returns.

Moore does not give them a better chance to win. They lost a home game to a .500 team yesterday. Moore's 2.3 ypc is a huge reason why. I don't care what Moore's ypc was against a few other cupcake teams.

If Moore gave them a better chance to win, why was buried behind Parker and Mendenhall when they were healthy? Was Tomlin hoping to lose?
You've said this twice now. Do you really think IND is a mediocre team? They've struggled the first half of this season but let's face it, they are a verteran team that is MUCH better than their record. A healthy Bob Sanders gives this defense a proven run stopping ability. And every week Manning is shaking the rust off and re-establishing the offense to what it is capable of.
No. I do not think Indy is a mediocre team, but I don't think they're as good as they have been. And I do think that Pittsburgh is a better team, especially at home. And I also think that Indy won that game by shutting down the Pittsburgh running game. Paker not playing was a big reason for that.To me, Moore has always been one of those guys who impressed the average fan more than he has team owners and coaches. Even with stiffs like Onterio Smith on the roster, Moore had trouble getting steady playing time in Minesota. Despite some performances that fans thought were special, he was never really able to win that starting job. I'm no coach, but maybe it's his blocking or his decision making with teh ball. Who knows? All I know is that he always seems to be a second or third stringer who puts up decent numbers when he gets a chance, but quickly goes back to theench when the regular gets healthy.
You are wrong about Moore in Minnesota. I live in Minnesota and I can tell you the reason for Moore's demise here was his inability to play with pain. He was in Mike Tice's doghouse because of it, and THE reason why he was moved out of Minnesota. He's either able to play with pain now, or hasn't experienced any in Pittsburgh.
Like I said, I don't claim to know the reason, I just know that he's never been anything but an injury replacement. I think that his performance this year has probably earned him a spot as a legitimate third down back. He has great hands.
What kind of odds will you give me if I say that FWP will not be playing for Pittsburgh next year? What about 2010? I'd say the odds are 3 to 1 next year and even money by 2010.
 
Another thing, analyzing talent with statements like 'he was never more than this over here' or 'why was he #3 on the depth chart' is very simple minded. Players are not always born ready to be stars, whether it be in football or any other aspects of life. You think maybe someone matured over the past year, or 3 years, to become a far better football player. The examples of this are numerous, on any given team. Yet talent is more often than not dismissed with, 'well he couldn't even get in front of the whizzanator in Minn, what makes you think blahblahblah' or 'why was he behind FWP and the rook if he's soo good blahblablah'

Not saying MeMo is the next coming of Jim brown, or that he will be a successful everydown back in the NFL, just stating that these lines of though are highly illogical...

 
What kind of odds will you give me if I say that FWP will not be playing for Pittsburgh next year? What about 2010? I'd say the odds are 3 to 1 next year and even money by 2010.
After Mendenhall fell to the Steelers, and with Moore being inked for 3 years prior to this season, I think that pretty much ended any real chance of Parker being a Steeler past 2009 when his contract runs out. So discussing him as a starter in Pittsburgh for 2010 and beyond is, basically, pointless.As for 2009, Mike Tomlin, much like his predecessor, has "his guys." "His guys" will play, and play often, whenever they are physically able to play. Willie Parker is one of "his guys." If Parker's healthy enough to play, he's starting. Period. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks as far as comparing Parker to Moore, Mendenhall, or the teamsters unloading fish dahn the Strip District. What Mike Tomlin thinks is the only opinion that matters. His opinion, clearly, is that Willie Parker is his starting tailback. Look no further than how he handled Parker in the Skins game as an indication: Willie's 1st game back from injury. Moore was coming off three strong games. Moore barely sniffed the field.I wouldn't be betting your house on those 3-1 odds. If healthy, and Tomlin's still coaching, Willie Parker is very likely the Steelers' starter for the remainder of his contract.
 
:goodposting: I`m trying to figure out how this thread discussion has ANYTHING to do with whether Parker has a torn labrum or not :eek:
Since this thread is officially :thumbdown: , I'll wade into the MeMo talk. He was brought in as a 3rd down possibility, and hasn't dissappointed. He is a good pass blocker, reciever and a decent runner. Parker two years ago, would have lost his job to Moore, but Parker has improved his ball security, vision, blocking & power enough in the last two seasons to be a good back and a better runner than Moore. Parker probably won't be resigned, 'cause he is replaceable, and the Steelers don't usually pay big 3rd contracts to guys nearing their 30's. Bettis would have been gone a couple years earlier had he not restructured. The loser in all of this is likely Mendenhall, who won't be starting over Parker unless he is injured, and he won't have become a better 3rd down back than Moore by next year. 2010, it's the M'hall show.
 

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