Waiver Wire rules - picking up dropped players (1 Viewer)

[DolphinsFanAlways]

Had someone complain about the waiver wire rules this week, so I thought that I would chech out what the most common setup is.

Our waiver wire is set up to run on Thursday morning each week. This gives the waiver wire a chance to run its course and then all players are free agents from thursday thru Sunday.

Now, if an owner picks up a free agent, they (obviously) need to drop a player. So the player that they drop is not a free agent, they are placed on waivers, which will not run again until the following Thurday. So the way this is set up, the player that is dropped cannot be picked up by another owner until the next week. So they are in reality missing a week.

The owner that complained is arguing that the dropped player should be a free agent and be available for any other owner to pick up that same week. While I argued that our set up is correct and the dropped player should be placed on waivers, so every team gets a fair chance to pick this player up. Otherwise, I would be able to call up another owner and let them know that I was dropping a certain player at 12pm and they should be ready to pick them up.

Im just curious on everyones thoughts. Are there other ways to run the waiver process?

 

[jon_mx]

You logic is correct. That is the way the waiver process should run. A player should have to go through a week a waiver process before becoming a FA. If they were allowed to, it would kind of circumvent the waiver priority too.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

You logic is correct. That is the way the waiver process should run. A player should have to go through a week a waiver process before becoming a FA. If they were allowed to, it would kind of circumvent the waiver priority too.

Agreed.Plus, there needs to be some other stipulation that newly acquired free agents must be on your roster for 1 week prior to being released. Otherwise, you're bound to have some jerk pick up and drop all free-agents and lock out everyone every week.

 

[bjabrad]

Your way is one way to do it but there are also ways to have a fair process for newly dropped players to be able to be picked up during the week and played on Sunday. You can continue your Thursday waiver date (although that is a day or two later than most leagues do it) and any player dropped on Thursday or Friday can be picked up again during a second waiver period on Saturday. This is a way to have your cake and eat it too. It's your league and you can do whatever you like but I agree with the other owner who would like to have access to the dropped players that one team may not want but other teams may need.

 

[DolphinsFanAlways]

Your way is one way to do it but there are also ways to have a fair process for newly dropped players to be able to be picked up during the week and played on Sunday. You can continue your Thursday waiver date (although that is a day or two later than most leagues do it) and any player dropped on Thursday or Friday can be picked up again during a second waiver period on Saturday. This is a way to have your cake and eat it too. It's your league and you can do whatever you like but I agree with the other owner who would like to have access to the dropped players that one team may not want but other teams may need.

This is the second year of our league and we have the same exact settings as last year, this owner is just a complainer. but still, I am trying to understand his point of view as I am always open to ideas that would improve the league.I also tried to explain to him, that even if this player was allowed to be picked up, he still may not have gotten him (lol)We did also discuss the idea of a second waiver process, but is that even possible with CBS? I will have to check the settings again.

 

[theplayer11]

we run waivers on Tuesday and Thursday..this way any dropped player on the Tuesday waiver run can be available to be claimed on the Thursday run or Friday's free for all day. I like this set up because with bye weeks, some owners are forced to drop decent players. Why should these players be unavailable for the current week's games? I would actually like to see it expanded to waivers's Tues-Sat...so any players dropped at any time during the week can be picked up. Locking players out for the entire week when some owners could use them makes little sense. Having just 1 day of waivers also enables the owners to add then drop 3-4 players at a certain position to block someone else from getting them. Cheap move, but doable with just 1 night of waivers.

 

[theplayer11]

but is that even possible with CBS? I will have to check the settings again.

yes, you can check Tues through Sat for waivers with a 1 day waiver period.

 

[lloyd christmas]

but is that even possible with CBS? I will have to check the settings again.

yes, you can check Tues through Sat for waivers with a 1 day waiver period.

This is the way we do it on Sportsline. I think it works well, especially with tight rosters. Players who are not picked up in the first waiver run are free agents and available for pick up immediately, any time during the week. Any player dropped is available via waivers, two days later.

 

[GregR_2]

You logic is correct. That is the way the waiver process should run. A player should have to go through a week a waiver process before becoming a FA. If they were allowed to, it would kind of circumvent the waiver priority too.

Agreed.Plus, there needs to be some other stipulation that newly acquired free agents must be on your roster for 1 week prior to being released. Otherwise, you're bound to have some jerk pick up and drop all free-agents and lock out everyone every week.

I whole heartedly agree that leagues that lock dropped players need a rule to handle someone picking up and dropping a bunch of players. But I don't care for the particular solution mentioned.There are plenty of legitimate reasons for wanting to drop a player you recently picked up from waivers. For example, the player gets injured in practice, or has an injury which the original word on was incorrect, or suffers a death in the family, or gets demoted from starter to back up on his NFL team, or you complete a trade where you no longer need that player but now need to fill some other position for your new player's byes, etc.You can defeat the problem you originally mentioned by just having a rule that players dropped the same week they are picked up will be unlocked at any owner's request. And you should of course have a rule that attempting to pick up and drop players just to lock them is not allowed, so you have clear cut grounds for punishing an unethical ******* who would try it anyway.

 

[grateful zed]

agree

 

[Ministry of Pain]

You logic is correct. That is the way the waiver process should run. A player should have to go through a week a waiver process before becoming a FA. If they were allowed to, it would kind of circumvent the waiver priority too.

Agreed.Plus, there needs to be some other stipulation that newly acquired free agents must be on your roster for 1 week prior to being released. Otherwise, you're bound to have some jerk pick up and drop all free-agents and lock out everyone every week.

$2 per transaction puts a decent stop to it.

 

[DolphinsFanAlways]

double post

 

[DolphinsFanAlways]

but is that even possible with CBS? I will have to check the settings again.

yes, you can check Tues through Sat for waivers with a 1 day waiver period.

This is the way we do it on Sportsline. I think it works well, especially with tight rosters. Players who are not picked up in the first waiver run are free agents and available for pick up immediately, any time during the week. Any player dropped is available via waivers, two days later.

a couple questions........I just want to be sure that I understand this.....If I check Tues through Saturday with 1 day waivers run, does this mean that the waivers will run every night? In other words, it will run on Tuesday night and after that all the players are available for immediate pickup, excep the players that were dropped on Tuesday? Then it will run again on Wed night just tfor the players that were dropped on Tuesday? and then again on Thursday, Friday and saturday? This get quite confusing (to me anyway)Also, what about players that are dropped on Saturday? They would still be unavailable for pickup until the following Tuesday? making them unavailable for the sunday games?

 

[thedudesdude]

In the league where I'm the commish our ww runs on Wednesday nights at 8pm. If you drop a player during the WW or anytime after that time they stay locked up for 24 hours and are then released. What this minimizes is people picking up players and dropping them so they are locked up on an opponent either by design or accident. Our league has good owners so this isn't really needed but I've had absolutely no complaints about this system this year....I think it's fair to all.

 

[sandlotshrink]

As the Commish, this is the one aspect of fantasy football that has been the least enjoyable. We do not have large rosters (8 starters, 9 bench) in our 10 teamer on CBS, but so far the most agreed upon system has been as follows.

1. We base our add/drop order on total points scored for the season with lowest team getting first dibs each week.

2. Each team is assigned a time slot beginning on Tuesday where they can make their add/drops and conclude this by Tuesday eve.

3. After a team has made 15 transactions of any type, all subsequent transactions cost $1 for end of season party $$.

4. All FA's are eligible to be picked up - do not have to clear waivers.

Only problems are rewarding the same low scoring team(s) each week and teams who panic and cut a good player that is quickly snatched up by the next team in the add/drop order, case in point this year, Eli was dropped after week 1. I would prefer a bidding system or another type of system that would not require me to monitor the process as much and give all teams a fair shot at the WW players each week. Adding the $1 has made a significant difference in the owner(s) who used to sit at the computer and add/drop the same players right up until game time.

 

[george]

All my leagues do not make them available until the following waivers. Not necessarily the ideal situation, but some of my l eagues have been around for 10+ years and everyone knows the rules.

 

[theplayer11]

but is that even possible with CBS? I will have to check the settings again.

yes, you can check Tues through Sat for waivers with a 1 day waiver period.

This is the way we do it on Sportsline. I think it works well, especially with tight rosters. Players who are not picked up in the first waiver run are free agents and available for pick up immediately, any time during the week. Any player dropped is available via waivers, two days later.

a couple questions........I just want to be sure that I understand this.....If I check Tues through Saturday with 1 day waivers run, does this mean that the waivers will run every night? In other words, it will run on Tuesday night and after that all the players are available for immediate pickup, excep the players that were dropped on Tuesday? Then it will run again on Wed night just tfor the players that were dropped on Tuesday? and then again on Thursday, Friday and saturday? This get quite confusing (to me anyway)Also, what about players that are dropped on Saturday? They would still be unavailable for pickup until the following Tuesday? making them unavailable for the sunday games?

yes, waivers would run every night...but just for the players recently dropped..So, players dropped on Tuesday's waiver run can be claimed on Thursday's run(with 1 day wait)..Wednesday drops can be picked up on Friday, ect.Players dropped on Sat wouldn't be available until the following week. This system makes the most sense to me, as I see no good reason why dropped players should not be utilized for the current week's games.

 

[lloyd christmas]

but is that even possible with CBS? I will have to check the settings again.

yes, you can check Tues through Sat for waivers with a 1 day waiver period.

This is the way we do it on Sportsline. I think it works well, especially with tight rosters. Players who are not picked up in the first waiver run are free agents and available for pick up immediately, any time during the week. Any player dropped is available via waivers, two days later.

a couple questions........I just want to be sure that I understand this.....If I check Tues through Saturday with 1 day waivers run, does this mean that the waivers will run every night? In other words, it will run on Tuesday night and after that all the players are available for immediate pickup, excep the players that were dropped on Tuesday? Then it will run again on Wed night just tfor the players that were dropped on Tuesday? and then again on Thursday, Friday and saturday? This get quite confusing (to me anyway)Also, what about players that are dropped on Saturday? They would still be unavailable for pickup until the following Tuesday? making them unavailable for the sunday games?

Youve basically got it right. Its not confusing in practice; imagine that there are 18 waiver claims on Tuesday night, so consequently there are 18 drops. These 18 are the only people that have to run through waivers, any other free agent can be picked up immediately. So each day (after Tuesday) very few players are on waivers, and the website is clear about when each person can be picked up. One minor detail: Players have to be on waivers for more than 24 hours, so someone dropped in the Tuesday night run is not available until the Thursday night run.