Waiver Wire Week 12 (1 Viewer)

[BobbyLayne]

QB:

Hoyer a good pickup since he should be through the concussion protocol and a good match up in week 12?

Not only is he a great streaming option this week, he may be a good option for ROS. For one thing, if you toss out Week 1 (when he was inexplicably benched for Mallett) and last week (when he left early with a concussion), he's thrown for at least 230/2 in every game he's played this year. And while the NO match-up is a great one, the rest of his schedule isn't scary either:

12: NO

13: @BUF

14: NE

15: @IND

16: @TEN

I own him in two leagues, one where I have Taylor and another where I have Tannehill. Tyrod could get another start or two, but there's a chance I roll with Hoyer on both teams the rest of the way.

None of those matchups are decidedly great when evaluated on FP allowed to QBs basis..other than NO. Hoyer should be a top 10 option this week with a very safe floor against NO.

Hoyer has already produced solid games against Indy (middle-of-the-pack D) and Atlanta (top pass D in terms of FPA). He's produced against everyone.

I agree. Thinking of starting him over Aaron Rodgers in one league this weekend and picking him up to play over Brady in the other. Brady has just lost too many weapons and that is not the same 30-40 point offense from the beginning of the year.

Yeah..love me some Hoyer.

I'm pretty sure you're trolling me ...

Some guys are virtually always trolling, and some are pretty much never yanking your chain. BB is in the latter category.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Thanks GB

 

[ldizzle]

Even if West is out, do we know Ware has the job? Knile Davis was a healthy scratch this week, but you have to assume if West is out he's back in the mix. And I wouldn't put *too* much stock in Ware's performance yesterday; San Diego has flat-out quit on the season.

I'm not totally crapping on Ware's chances, just pointing out there are a lot more questions.

Disagree here. I think they moved on from Davis months ago. They chose West, then Ware over him. I think Ware gets the workhorse load if West is out and gets some touches even with a healthy West. Add to that the KC D is playing great and they have winnable games for each of their last 6 on the schedule.

You know, you may be right. I had assumed Davis was a healthy scratch for roster-construction purposes (ie, he doesn't play special teams or something). But it's happened two weeks in a row.

I was having the same thoughts on Davis vs. Ware. Ware has consistently been called the "change of pace back" and I assume he would share the backfield with Davis to some extent. That said, maybe Ware's performance yesterday changed that situation.

Yeah. Reid has flat out said that Ware had a bigger role in special teams and Knile was only returning kicks sometimes and they wanted DAT for that role.

 

[zftcg]

QB:

Hoyer a good pickup since he should be through the concussion protocol and a good match up in week 12?

Not only is he a great streaming option this week, he may be a good option for ROS. For one thing, if you toss out Week 1 (when he was inexplicably benched for Mallett) and last week (when he left early with a concussion), he's thrown for at least 230/2 in every game he's played this year. And while the NO match-up is a great one, the rest of his schedule isn't scary either:

12: NO

13: @BUF

14: NE

15: @IND

16: @TEN

I own him in two leagues, one where I have Taylor and another where I have Tannehill. Tyrod could get another start or two, but there's a chance I roll with Hoyer on both teams the rest of the way.

None of those matchups are decidedly great when evaluated on FP allowed to QBs basis..other than NO. Hoyer should be a top 10 option this week with a very safe floor against NO.

Hoyer has already produced solid games against Indy (middle-of-the-pack D) and Atlanta (top pass D in terms of FPA). He's produced against everyone.

I agree. Thinking of starting him over Aaron Rodgers in one league this weekend and picking him up to play over Brady in the other. Brady has just lost too many weapons and that is not the same 30-40 point offense from the beginning of the year.

Yeah..love me some Hoyer.

I'm pretty sure you're trolling me ...

Some guys are virtually always trolling, and some are pretty much never yanking your chain. BB is in the latter category.

I honestly wasn't sure. Anyway, I love Hoyer, but no way I start him over Brady or Rodgers. That's just crazy talk.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Crazy is going all in with pocket Js and hitting the set on the flop. I'm usually a risk averse and play the percentages kind of FF manager, but sometimes you take a chance & it works out.

Two years ago I rode a 5 game McCown hot streak from 9th to 3rd, setting weekly high records twice in a 20+ year redraft. Josh got benched after his 5 TD MNF game (Cutler back from injury) and I streamed QBs while winning the semis & finals.

Points are points. Right now Hoyer has more upside (& a lower floor) than Brady or Rodgers.

 

[zftcg]

Crazy is going all in with pocket Js and hitting the set on the flop. I'm usually a risk averse and play the percentages kind of FF manager, but sometimes you take a chance & it works out.

Two years ago I rode a 5 game McCown hot streak from 9th to 3rd, setting weekly high records twice in a 20+ year redraft. Josh got benched after his 5 TD MNF game (Cutler back from injury) and I streamed QBs while winning the semis & finals.

Points are points. Right now Hoyer has more upside (& a lower floor) than Brady or Rodgers.

You could be right. That's just not how I play fantasy. I almost always defer to talent.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Crazy is going all in with pocket Js and hitting the set on the flop. I'm usually a risk averse and play the percentages kind of FF manager, but sometimes you take a chance & it works out.

Two years ago I rode a 5 game McCown hot streak from 9th to 3rd, setting weekly high records twice in a 20+ year redraft. Josh got benched after his 5 TD MNF game (Cutler back from injury) and I streamed QBs while winning the semis & finals.

Points are points. Right now Hoyer has more upside (& a lower floor) than Brady or Rodgers.

You could be right. That's just not how I play fantasy. I almost always defer to talent.

I hear ya. It's just that situation trumps talent so often, that following the "talent wins out" mantra causes you to miss out sometimes. You have to flexible in your approach IMO.

A rational and reasoned risk management approach is the way to roll and will breed long term success. But for a week or two, you have to be willing to be fluid. Of course Brady and Rodgers are supremely talented, and play the position at a higher level than almost anyone. But on a week to week basis? Plenty of weeks they are QB 6-10 or QB 11-15.

 

[zftcg]

If Johnny Speedball does, in fact, get benched for his partying ways, I love McCown as a one-week streamer vs Baltimore's horrible pass D. He lit them up earlier this season.

 

[HughHoney]

Who is the Pats WR to own after Dobson and Danny A?

 

[cubbie5150]

Who is the Pats WR to own after Dobson and Danny A?

I'm rolling the dice on Harper, but it's a total guess as far as I'm concerned. It's hard to back Martin when he's still dealing w/ a month+ long hammy issue.

 

[socrates]

Who is the Pats WR to own after Dobson and Danny A?

It is not reported as being anything serious for Amendola, but it is yet early. Also, we know Amendola has a tendency to miss time to injury, so it is good to be prepared. LaFell could see an uptick to his targets. James White may also get more looks in the receiving game. As between Keyshawn Martin and Chris Harper, you have to be concerned about Martin's prolonged recovery from a hammy injury, but I think he could be a significant part of this offense down the stretch. Grab him now.

 

[starks]

For those thrifty faab managers, what % are you putting on ware? Thinking I throw 50 out of a hundred to block 2nd most points team. If west is out 2-4 with a nagging hammy he could be a savior

 

[Jack White]

For those thrifty faab managers, what % are you putting on ware? Thinking I throw 50 out of a hundred to block 2nd most points team. If west is out 2-4 with a nagging hammy he could be a savior

At this point, he's worth an all-in bid.

But why would you have 50% of your FAAB left?

 

[starks]

For those thrifty faab managers, what % are you putting on ware? Thinking I throw 50 out of a hundred to block 2nd most points team. If west is out 2-4 with a nagging hammy he could be a savior

At this point, he's worth an all-in bid.

But why would you have 50% of your FAAB left?

Sorry, got 80 out of 100 left and dropping 50. Drafted great, made some good pickups along the way before they blew up as well. *humble brag*

I tried to spend faab on some of those top pick ups but others were blowing their load. I guess I was a Meiser when it came to my bucks but ready to play D with it now

 

[Jack White]

For those thrifty faab managers, what % are you putting on ware? Thinking I throw 50 out of a hundred to block 2nd most points team. If west is out 2-4 with a nagging hammy he could be a savior

At this point, he's worth an all-in bid.

But why would you have 50% of your FAAB left?

Sorry, got 80 out of 100 left and dropping 50. Drafted great, made some good pickups along the way before they blew up as well. *humble brag*

I tried to spend faab on some of those top pick ups but others were blowing their load. I guess I was a Meiser when it came to my bucks but ready to play D with it now

That's a good problem to have. Yeah, Ware has value. Hammy injuries can linger.

 

[Van Dyman]

If Johnny Speedball does, in fact, get benched for his partying ways, I love McCown as a one-week streamer vs Baltimore's horrible pass D. He lit them up earlier this season.

Johnny has been benched. McCown is interesting.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Assuming they're all available (because while most leagues Ware will be available, and maybe one of or neither of Rawls and Allen...), this has to be:

1. Rawls

2. Allen

3. Ware

Right?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Who is the Pats WR to own after Dobson and Danny A?

LaFell. Has to be, whose left? Martin is allegedly the sneaky play... but when is he healthy?

Even when Amendola comes back I think he will need help. They already had him on reduced snaps and IMO the offense looked sluggish, though the Bills do have a good D, Ryan knows the Pats, etc., I still think they are missing Edelman and Lewis.

 

[socrates]

Assuming they're all available (because while most leagues Ware will be available, and maybe one of or neither of Rawls and Allen...), this has to be:

1. Rawls

2. Allen

3. Ware

Right?

That is how I have them ranked, but Ware is the only one available in my leagues.

 

[jimmykick]

Might need to pickup another WR here, wondering how SP would rank the following.

Terrance Williams - I'm somewhat optimistic here w Romo back. Potential for big games but laying eggs too.

Snead - I feel like we know what we have in Snead. Usually has a decent floor and limited upside ... laid an egg recently which scares me.

Funchess - Hasn't done much but there's talk of him stepping into a more prominent role. Just not sure how likely this is down the stretch this season -he's been playing all season and hasn't produced too much.

 

[Arodin]

Williams is interesting...Romo seems to add a lot of value, and I'd probably go there first.

After that, Snead for high floor, Funchess for high ceiling. Depends what you need.

 

[jimmykick]

Williams is interesting...Romo seems to add a lot of value, and I'd probably go there first.

After that, Snead for high floor, Funchess for high ceiling. Depends what you need.

I went with Williams. I think Funchess has a lot of upside, but not sure we'll see him step into that yet this season -we've seen a lot of him this year. Hoping Romo's return keeps Williams relevant. I had Snead rostered most of the season and he typically did have a high floor, but Brees spreads the ball around so much you never really know what you'll get and that egg he layed recently hurt.

 

[JIslander]

So any Carolina player has Atl twice in playoffs (Wk 14 and 16) -- What are thoughts with Funchess those two games?

 

[DocHolliday]

I have Funchess on my bench. I like the potential but he seems like a very risky play. I would not be surprised if he went 8/100/1 or 2/14/0 in any game. That said, I believe his numbers improve each week.

 

[Barksdale]

If Carlos Hyde is available, is he worth a stash? Or are the 49ers just delaying the inevitable by not saying he's officially shut down for the season?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

In my 10 team league, I was shocked to get Rawls since I was the last WW priority. Allen, Ware, Luck (yes, someone dropped Luck) and Funchess went before him.

In my 12 team league I was able to get Ware. I had the 8th WW priority, so that's about right I guess. Rawls was already owned.

 

[rjv]

So any Carolina player has Atl twice in playoffs (Wk 14 and 16) -- What are thoughts with Funchess those two games?

This issue I have here is if CAR locks up their division and or the conference and you see some significant play time decreased and increased with 2nd and 3rd stringers.

 

[rjv]

If anyone dropped the BUF defense grab them now. Their playoff schedule is insanely profitable.

Chiefs, tough this week but after that,

Texans

Eagles

Redskins

Cowboys

 

[shadyridr]

In my 10 team league, I was shocked to get Rawls since I was the last WW priority. Allen, Ware, Luck (yes, someone dropped Luck) and Funchess went before him.

insert oibligatory "sounds like a competitive league" comment

 

[Deranged Hermit]

In my 10 team league, I was shocked to get Rawls since I was the last WW priority. Allen, Ware, Luck (yes, someone dropped Luck) and Funchess went before him.

insert oibligatory "sounds like a competitive league" comment

The dude had Palmer (WW pick) and Cam. Couldn't get any bites for Luck, so he dropped him. He literally tried to trade luck for a month with no takers. He was the guy who got Allen.

 

[Isotopes]

For those of us that lost out on Rawls....any value in Freddy Jackson?

 

[shadyridr]

Was really talking about Rawls slipping to 10

 

[Insein]

If anyone dropped the BUF defense grab them now. Their playoff schedule is insanely profitable.

Chiefs, tough this week but after that,

Texans

Eagles

Redskins

Cowboys

To pick up? Cause the Chiefs don't play those teams.

 

[rjv]

If anyone dropped the BUF defense grab them now. Their playoff schedule is insanely profitable.

Chiefs, tough this week but after that,

Texans

Eagles

Redskins

Cowboys

To pick up? Cause the Chiefs don't play those teams.

?? I thought I wrote BUF. Seems like I did unless I need my eyes checked?

 

[VikingFrog]

If anyone dropped the BUF defense grab them now. Their playoff schedule is insanely profitable.

Chiefs, tough this week but after that,

Texans

Eagles

Redskins

Cowboys

To pick up? Cause the Chiefs don't play those teams.

?? I thought I wrote BUF. Seems like I did unless I need my eyes checked?

I see the BUF

 

[Insein]

If anyone dropped the BUF defense grab them now. Their playoff schedule is insanely profitable.

Chiefs, tough this week but after that,

Texans

Eagles

Redskins

Cowboys

To pick up? Cause the Chiefs don't play those teams.

?? I thought I wrote BUF. Seems like I did unless I need my eyes checked?

I see the BUF

I was reading it wrong. Chiefs as an opponent.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

In my 10 team league, I was shocked to get Rawls since I was the last WW priority. Allen, Ware, Luck (yes, someone dropped Luck) and Funchess went before him.

insert oibligatory "sounds like a competitive league" comment

The dude had Palmer (WW pick) and Cam. Couldn't get any bites for Luck, so he dropped him. He literally tried to trade luck for a month with no takers. He was the guy who got Allen.

I could see how the West owner would rush to get Ware, how the Forsett owner would rush to get Allen, how Luck would go, how a WR3 needy team would pounce on Funchess... but how about the Lynch owner, already covered with a backup, or just assumed Lynch would be back next week or the next? It's not impossible, things fell really good this week for anyone trying to get Rawls off the WW.

Btw the rumors on Lynch needing surgery started two weeks ago, but I don't think people were aware of it, even last night as I was tracking the board I noticed there was very little talk, people think they don't want to kill a WW priority if Lynch just toughs it out just like he always does. The actual news about the surgery didn't come out in wide release until maybe 1130 CT.

Of course Dr. Bremel (and a few others) said the hernia surgery was a possibility two games ago.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

Funchess or Lockett? Both seem to be gaining steam as of late. Don't think either one is a threat to lead his team in targets, but each is becoming a top red zone option.

Also, considering how high some are on Hoyer, what about Cecil Shorts?

 

[drm1125]

Lacy was dropped, is he worth a pickup? Over B. Allen? I look at both of them and I think but I'd probably never start either of them. I have Rawls, McFadden,and Gore and only start 2 RB's and no flex.

 

[Isotopes]

Lacy is for sure worth a pickup. And it's no question whether to choose him over Allen.

 

[fbelange]

Bradshaw

I agree shady. He is getting snaps, receptions, TDs, and now Gore is at least dinged. Bradshaw still is who we thought he was.

Even with a healthy Gore I wonder if they don't prefer Bradshaw near the goalline with the ability to score the receiving TDs like he did last year (3 in the last 2 games).

Picked Bradshaw up a few weeks back, glad to see he's slowly gaining a larger role and I think if hes not rostered he is a must-add. He has fresh legs for this late in the season and I think Hasselback only adds to his value as a reliable check-down option.

Here's to hoping he keeps it rolling, I may have to start him if West cant get healthy.

 

[Isotopes]

Gore missed practice today....probably doesn't mean the injury will keep him out, but opens the door slightly more for Bradshaw.

And for those of us scraping the bottom of the barrell...what about Raheem Mostert in Baltimore? He is number 2 behind Buck Allen, and may get a fair number of carries.

 

[shady inc]

Assuming they're all available (because while most leagues Ware will be available, and maybe one of or neither of Rawls and Allen...), this has to be:

1. Rawls

2. Allen

3. Ware

Right?

Where would you fit shaun draughn in this list? Let's assume Hyde is out another game or two.

He's hit double digit fantasy points each of the last 2 weeks. He played 90% of the snaps last week and had 100% of the backfield touches. Yea, its San Fran, but still getting a lot of carries and catches. Yet to find the endzone though.

 

[packersfan]

Haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if Shaun Draughn's been talked about. If you miss out on Rawls/Buck he may be a decent fallback in PPR. All kinds of volume with Hyde out and big role in the passing game.

 

[shady inc]

Haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if Shaun Draughn's been talked about. If you miss out on Rawls/Buck he may be a decent fallback in PPR. All kinds of volume with Hyde out and big role in the passing game.

I'm stuck on whether to put draughn or ware as a higher waiver claim

 

[packersfan]

Haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if Shaun Draughn's been talked about. If you miss out on Rawls/Buck he may be a decent fallback in PPR. All kinds of volume with Hyde out and big role in the passing game.

I'm stuck on whether to put draughn or ware as a higher waiver claim

I have Draughn higher on my list (need to replace Forsett) due to Hyde's injury likely being more severe.

 

[Isotopes]

Hmmm.......Draughn is available in my non-ppr league. I went with Bradshaw on the wire this week (lost out on Rawls/Allen/Ware).

What is the timeline on Hyde? Is he done or expected back soon?

 

[packersfan]

Hmmm.......Draughn is available in my non-ppr league. I went with Bradshaw on the wire this week (lost out on Rawls/Allen/Ware).

This is what I'm debating - who to put third on my bid list behind Rawls/Buck. Right now I have Draughn third but if there's any word that Gore's injury is an issue I'm going Bradshaw without a second thought.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I like Draughn I picked him a couple weeks ago. He's a starter, gets receptions, and 20 touches. I'm impressed he put up a good FF line vs the Seahawks in Sea, I thought that was going to be an utter destruction but he got in his work. He's also likely to be totally free. I really don't think Hyde's coming back.

 

[Run It Up]

Those asking about NE WRs.

Atm its Dola > Lafell > Dobson > Martin > Harper

Dola is dinged up, has a decent shot at playing Sunday, Lafell is healthy, Dobson sprained his ankle pretty bad and will miss at least a week and is terrible to begin with, Martin has shown flashes but has been dealing with an injury for over a month and Harper was signed from the practice squad this week.

The third wheel isn't gonna produce enough to be rosterable. Lafell is the best bet atm because he is healthy, but if Dola recovers quickly he will be the clear #1 - people way overblew Brady's comments about Martin, there was never a chance for anyone but Dola to take Edelman's snaps.