Walker granted permission to seek trade (1 Viewer)

[Noahs Troopers]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2423722

Updated: April 27, 2006, 9:57 AM ET

Green Bay Packers wide receiver Javon Walker has received permission from the team to explore trade opportunities and a deal is expected before this weekend's NFL draft, league sources with direct knowledge of the situation said.

Walker is visiting the New Orleans Saints on Thursday and is scheduled to visit the Denver Broncos on Friday.

The Packers are also engaging in trade talks with the Kansas City Chiefs, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots and Philadelphia Eagles but conversations aren't as far along as they are with the Saints and Broncos. Walker does not have any visits scheduled beyond the Saints and Broncos.

Walker, who underwent surgery in October on an injured anterior cruciate ligament, expects to be ready to go by training camp.

Walker has threatened to retire rather than play for the Packers next year, and general manager Ted Thompson has said he expects Walker to honor his contract.

"I've spoken with Javon over the course of the spring," Thompson said. "I think I'll let the original statement that we put out stand there. I know that things get said from time to time and I think the less said on something like that, the better."

Thompson did say that he and the team would welcome Walker back.

"I would," Thompson said. "I'm sure the team would. He's very well liked here. I assume you guys would agree with me."

Michael Smith is a senior writer for ESPN.com. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Saints,huh? That's a pretty big surprise.

I still think this comes down to Denver and Philly. The thing holding Philly up, if I remember correctly, was not being able to give Walker a physical. I'm sure that's not a problem now if GB is giving him permission to seek a deal.

 

[Loomba]

At least Green Bay now appears to be doing something this offseason. Getting Favre back, signing Woodson and now perhaps getting a decent pick or player for a guy who wasn't going to play for them is progress, I suppose...

 

[Spike]

New England? As a fan of the Pats, I'd love it. But it's a pipe dream.

 

[psychobillies]

Charles Grant for Walker straight up?

 

[wannabee]

I would think Stallworth would be a part of the deal. Either that, or it would be a 1st rounder straight up for Walker. The 1st is what GB has wanted all along.

 

[hobbes4]

Charles Grant for Walker straight up?

Payton seems determined to get rid of Stallworth due to problems in the lockerroom. Look for it to be Stallworth or D. Smith offered up. Dwight should be a goner to with the new regime taking control.

 

[Jason Wood]

Wow...Saints could deal Stallworth (allegedly on the market anyway) and a pick or two for Walker.

Brees

Horn

Walker

Deuce

Hilton

If that line plays well enough, Saints could have some mighty offensive punch

 

[psychobillies]

I would think Stallworth would be a part of the deal. Either that, or it would be a 1st rounder straight up for Walker. The 1st is what GB has wanted all along.

No shot the Saints give up the #2 overall for a WR who is demanding a trade and coming off a major injury.

 

[wannabee]

I would think Stallworth would be a part of the deal.  Either that, or it would be a 1st rounder straight up for Walker.  The 1st is what GB has wanted all along.

No shot the Saints give up the #2 overall for a WR who is demanding a trade and coming off a major injury.

Could be a 2007 ist round pick ......

 

[Kit Fisto]

Walker and GB's #5 for the #2? There have been lots of New Orleans trading down rumors floating around...

Green Bay gives up Walker and the 5 and gets Mario Williams. New Orleans gets Javon Walker and AJ Hawk. Gotta be excited for that possibility if you're a Saints/Packers fan.

 

[Boston]

I would think Stallworth would be a part of the deal.  Either that, or it would be a 1st rounder straight up for Walker.  The 1st is what GB has wanted all along.

No shot the Saints give up the #2 overall for a WR who is demanding a trade and coming off a major injury.

Could be a 2007 ist round pick ......

If they do that they should disband as a franchise. There's a good chance that that pick will be pretty high and you don't roll the dice like that. They have high picks at the beginning of each round so they can put something solid together but it won't be a #1.

 

[msommer]

Wow...Saints could deal Stallworth (allegedly on the market anyway) and a pick or two for Walker.

Brees

Horn

Walker

Deuce

Hilton

If that line plays well enough, Saints could have some mighty offensive punch

That would not be a good scenario for me (have Driver) - but probably very good for both NO and GB.I don't see either NO or DEN giving a 1st rounder for Javon though - #2 and #15 does not seem like the picks you would send for a receiver that is returning from a torn ACL. 2.02 or 2.05 might do the trick - but 2.02 and Stallworth would seem a bit rich. Or NO could trade Stallworth to DEN? As for the Pats - even if they have the dough I find it hard to believe they will be willing to offer Javon what he wants - and he doesn't seem like the kind of player they take a chance on - Corey Dillon aside

Maybe DEN will offer 2.29+Lelie to GB?

This should be fun to watch

 

[John 14:6]

Payton seems determined to get rid of Stallworth due to problems in the lockerroom.

I wonder what kind of lockerroom guy Walker is given everything he's gone through lately...

 

[wannabee]

Here are trades that the Packers have turned down which refer to the first rounder:

(KFFL) Bob Grotz, of the Delaware County Times, reports ESPN reported the Denver Broncos offered the Green Bay Packers WR Ashley Lelie and a sixth-round draft pick in exchange for WR Javon Walker. According to SportsLine.com, the Eagles want a first-round draft pick for Walker.

(KFFL) Bob Grotz, of the Delaware County Times, reports sources said the Philadelphia Eagles offered DT Hollis Thomas and a sixth-round draft choice to the Green Bay Packers in exchange for WR Javon Walker, but it appears the offer was not enough to get the job done. ESPN reported the Eagles offered the Packers Thomas and OG Artis Hicks. According to SportsLine.com, the Packers want a first-round pick for Walker.

But, I agree with the poster above that the Saints could put together a package of picks that would be enticing.

 

[Fiddles.]

Wow...Saints could deal Stallworth (allegedly on the market anyway) and a pick or two for Walker.

Brees

Horn

Walker

Deuce

Hilton

If that line plays well enough, Saints could have some mighty offensive punch

alot of health concerns as well

 

[psychobillies]

I would think Stallworth would be a part of the deal.  Either that, or it would be a 1st rounder straight up for Walker.  The 1st is what GB has wanted all along.

No shot the Saints give up the #2 overall for a WR who is demanding a trade and coming off a major injury.

Could be a 2007 ist round pick ......

If they do that they should disband as a franchise. There's a good chance that that pick will be pretty high and you don't roll the dice like that. They have high picks at the beginning of each round so they can put something solid together but it won't be a #1.

They have picks at the beginning of each round except the third round.

 

[hobbes4]

Payton seems determined to get rid of Stallworth due to problems in the lockerroom.

I wonder what kind of lockerroom guy Walker is given everything he's gone through lately...

Every head coach in the NFL believes with a 'change of scenery' they can transform a malcontent into a team guy. Ask Parcells and Reid and Al Davis and ....

 

[Boston]

I would think Stallworth would be a part of the deal.  Either that, or it would be a 1st rounder straight up for Walker.  The 1st is what GB has wanted all along.

No shot the Saints give up the #2 overall for a WR who is demanding a trade and coming off a major injury.

Could be a 2007 ist round pick ......

If they do that they should disband as a franchise. There's a good chance that that pick will be pretty high and you don't roll the dice like that. They have high picks at the beginning of each round so they can put something solid together but it won't be a #1.

They have picks at the beginning of each round except the third round.

Where did that pick go?

 

[hobbes4]

I would think Stallworth would be a part of the deal.  Either that, or it would be a 1st rounder straight up for Walker.  The 1st is what GB has wanted all along.

No shot the Saints give up the #2 overall for a WR who is demanding a trade and coming off a major injury.

Could be a 2007 ist round pick ......

If they do that they should disband as a franchise. There's a good chance that that pick will be pretty high and you don't roll the dice like that. They have high picks at the beginning of each round so they can put something solid together but it won't be a #1.

They have picks at the beginning of each round except the third round.

Where did that pick go?

Houston from last year swapped 1sts so they could pick up jamaal Brown.

 

[Sidewinder]

No way it will be for next year's 1. If no other players (Grant or Stallworth) are involved, something like this would work:

Saints 1.02 for Packers 1.05 + Packers 3.03 + Walker

Value works out - Saints lose 900 pts on the first round swaps. Pack 3rd rounder worth 255, means Walker is worth around 650 (which is between 1.28 (660) and 1.29 (640) this year). Seems about right...

 

[urfriend]

If the Saints could trade the 1.02 for the 1.05 and Walker that would be great but I do not see GB giving him up like that. I would never trade a 1st round pick for Walker. I guess since this WR class is not strong this year that maybe someone will over pay for him.

 

[urfriend]

If the Saints could trade the 1.02 for the 1.05 and Walker that would be great but I do not see GB giving him up like that. I would never trade a 1st round pick for Walker. I guess since this WR class is not strong this year that maybe someone will over pay for him.

 

[guderian]

Would Green Bay be interested in trading up to take Mario Williams? Most mocks I've seen have shown them taking Ferguson or Hawk and I assumed that they would be comfortable staying at #5.

Potentially the Saints could take Mario Williams and trade Charles Grant in a package to GB.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Payton seems determined to get rid of Stallworth due to problems in the lockerroom.

I wonder what kind of lockerroom guy Walker is given everything he's gone through lately...

Supposedly he's real good and great team guy. It's said that fellow players on the team love him. I think it's a player vs management/front office thing...very similar to Lavar & the 'Skins. Lavar was loved by his fellow players, just had a rift between the front office and coaches.

 

[Born to Run]

Wow...Saints could deal Stallworth (allegedly on the market anyway) and a pick or two for Walker.

Brees

Horn

Walker

Deuce

Hilton

If that line plays well enough, Saints could have some mighty offensive punch

Combined with a below average, if not downright crappy D could lead to some shootouts.

 

[_4_]

Walker and GB's #5 for the #2? There have been lots of New Orleans trading down rumors floating around...

Green Bay gives up Walker and the 5 and gets Mario Williams. New Orleans gets Javon Walker and AJ Hawk. Gotta be excited for that possibility if you're a Saints/Packers fan.

I am a huge Packer fan, and that deal would make me puke.It would be great for NO, but would suck for the Packers.

 

[scratcher]

As an Eagles fan, I've been monitoring the status of Walker religiously over the last couple months and I would love to see the Eagles get him. But with both the Saints and Denver in the mix, I feel like the price is gonna get too high. Personally I wouldn't want to see Philly trade a first day pick for him. The ACL is too much of a question and the contract extension he will require will be rather expensive. I've seen people on Eagles boards go overboard in what they would give up for Walker. I hope I don't see the Eagles go much over a 4th and a player like Fraley, Thomas, Hicks. How do other Eagles fans feel about this?

 

[diesel7982]

I would think Stallworth would be a part of the deal.  Either that, or it would be a 1st rounder straight up for Walker.  The 1st is what GB has wanted all along.

No shot the Saints give up the #2 overall for a WR who is demanding a trade and coming off a major injury.

Could be a 2007 ist round pick ......

Hey Brett! Thanks for coming back. Oh, we traded away your #1 WR and got nothing in return for your final year. Thanks again for coming back!

 

[diesel7982]

Wow...Saints could deal Stallworth (allegedly on the market anyway) and a pick or two for Walker.

Brees

Horn

Walker

Deuce

Hilton

If that line plays well enough, Saints could have some mighty offensive punch

Hilton will be lucky to be more than the #3 TE...assuming he even makes the team.

 

[Sidewinder]

Wow...Saints could deal Stallworth (allegedly on the market anyway) and a pick or two for Walker.

Brees

Horn

Walker

Deuce

Hilton

If that line plays well enough, Saints could have some mighty offensive punch

Hilton will be lucky to be more than the #3 TE...assuming he even makes the team.

You're kidding, right ?

 

[Slinger]

Wow...Saints could deal Stallworth (allegedly on the market anyway) and a pick or two for Walker.

Brees

Horn

Walker

Deuce

Hilton

If that line plays well enough, Saints could have some mighty offensive punch

Hilton will be lucky to be more than the #3 TE...assuming he even makes the team.

Right now it's going to be either Ernie Conwell or Zach Hilton. ZH put up good numbers in the last 4 or 5 games last season, so my money is on Hilton.

 

[diesel7982]

Wow...Saints could deal Stallworth (allegedly on the market anyway) and a pick or two for Walker.

Brees

Horn

Walker

Deuce

Hilton

If that line plays well enough, Saints could have some mighty offensive punch

Hilton will be lucky to be more than the #3 TE...assuming he even makes the team.

You're kidding, right ?

Beautiful logic in your response, but no not kidding. Mark Campbell was signed, Ernie Conwell will be back. Hilton, though he has good hands, will have to beat out Shad Meier just for a spot on the team.

Are you a Boo Williams support by any chance?

 

[Jason Wood]

Wow...Saints could deal Stallworth (allegedly on the market anyway) and a pick or two for Walker.

Brees

Horn

Walker

Deuce

Hilton

If that line plays well enough, Saints could have some mighty offensive punch

Hilton will be lucky to be more than the #3 TE...assuming he even makes the team.

Hey Diesel,I disagree. I see Hilton as the guy there in '06.

 

[cstu]

I would think Stallworth would be a part of the deal. Either that, or it would be a 1st rounder straight up for Walker. The 1st is what GB has wanted all along.

No shot the Saints give up the #2 overall for a WR who is demanding a trade and coming off a major injury.

Could be a 2007 ist round pick ......

He said there's no way the Saints give up the #2 overall pick...

 

[Slinger]

Wow...Saints could deal Stallworth (allegedly on the market anyway) and a pick or two for Walker.

Brees

Horn

Walker

Deuce

Hilton

If that line plays well enough, Saints could have some mighty offensive punch

Hilton will be lucky to be more than the #3 TE...assuming he even makes the team.

You're kidding, right ?

Beautiful logic in your response, but no not kidding. Mark Campbell was signed, Ernie Conwell will be back. Hilton, though he has good hands, will have to beat out Shad Meier just for a spot on the team.

Are you a Boo Williams support by any chance?

So let me get this straight. Zach Hilton won't start, and better yet, might not make the team because of Mark Campbell, Ernie Conwell and Shad Meier.



I like you. You're crazy, but I like you.

 

[Sidewinder]

Beautiful logic in your response, but no not kidding.

Mark Campbell was signed, Ernie Conwell will be back. Hilton, though he has good hands, will have to beat out Shad Meier just for a spot on the team.

...

Ahhh, you wanted logic from me, though you provided none to begin with. Classic.Here ya go ace.

Meier - has done nothing, couldn't even beat out Hilton last year

Conwell - two off-season surgeries

Campbell - signed as more of a blocker that a pass catcher

Hilton - just signed his tender; had 32 catches and over 350 yards in his 8 starts, that with the disaster that was the Saints QB situation the second half of last year.

...

Are you a Boo Williams support by any chance?

Cute.If I liked players begging for a PI call every time a ball was thrown near them, yeah, Boo would be at the top of my list...

 

[diesel7982]

Beautiful logic in your response, but no not kidding. 

Mark Campbell was signed, Ernie Conwell will be back.  Hilton, though he has good hands, will have to beat out Shad Meier just for a spot on the team.

...

Ahhh, you wanted logic from me, though you provided none to begin with. Classic.Here ya go ace.

Meier - has done nothing, couldn't even beat out Hilton last year

Conwell - two off-season surgeries

Campbell - signed as more of a blocker that a pass catcher

Hilton - just signed his tender; had 32 catches and over 350 yards in his 8 starts, that with the disaster that was the Saints QB situation the second half of last year.

...

Are you a Boo Williams support by any chance?

Cute.If I liked players begging for a PI call every time a ball was thrown near them, yeah, Boo would be at the top of my list...

Beautiful. So whether or not Hilton will have a job depends on your evaluation of him and the other TEs, rather than NO's evaluation of them? Classic.Its as easy as looking at the contracts.

Obviously Campbell is your starter. Given a good contract this offseason by the new coaching staff.

Ernie Conwell- Played very well as a starter last year, is recovered from injury. Getting paid a decent amount, and the Saints still have him around.

Shad Meier- Still makes more money than Hilton, but hasnt made and impact and will have to fight with Hilton for his spot.

Hilton drew ZERO interest as a restricted free agent, before signing a ONE year deal with ZERO guaranteed money. Saints made ZERO effort to extend him before he becomes a UFA next year. And he had 35 catches in 8 games!?!!!111

Nevermind that the Saints had one healthy WR and zero healthy TEs in the games he started. 35 catches and 11.3 ypc are a sure sign of Hilton's dominance.

 

[Sidewinder]

Beautiful. So whether or not Hilton will have a job depends on your evaluation of him and the other TEs, rather than NO's evaluation of them? Classic.

...

If you know how the staff grades them out, please post, would love see the inside info. Short of that, I posted my opinion, is it really that hard to understand ?

...

Its as easy as looking at the contracts.

Obviously Campbell is your starter. Given a good contract this offseason by the new coaching staff.

Ernie Conwell- Played very well as a starter last year, is recovered from injury. Getting paid a decent amount, and the Saints still have him around.

Shad Meier- Still makes more money than Hilton, but hasnt made and impact and will have to fight with Hilton for his spot.

...

Campbell: has caught 30 balls or more once in his 7 years in the league. He caught less than 20 the past 2 years.Conwell: played well ?? One good game, the opener at Carolina. He caught a total of 13 passes last year, 6 in the CAR game. Yeah, quite a year. Recovered from injury ? Is that why he sat out mini-camp 2 weeks ago ? Come on, the guy has missed 14 games the past 3 years due to injuries.

Meier: has a total of 42 catches in 5 seasons. He signed a 2 year deal last year. IMO he and Conwell are fighting for the TE3 spot.

...

Hilton drew ZERO interest as a restricted free agent, before signing a ONE year deal with ZERO guaranteed money. Saints made ZERO effort to extend him before he becomes a UFA next year. And he had 35 catches in 8 games!?!!!111

Nevermind that the Saints had one healthy WR and zero healthy TEs in the games he started. 35 catches and 11.3 ypc are a sure sign of Hilton's dominance.

It ain't next year yet. If you already know that they'll make no effort, your crystal ball is better than mine.The guy had a nice second half of the season when given the chance. But if you want to degrade it, guess that's your prerogative...

 

[Sabertooth]

I'd trade Walker for a second rounder straight up. Rumors I've heard is that he can be had for a 2 and a 3.

Thompson will not just unload him for the sake of doing so. Walker is a top 10 wideout in the NFL, he won't be given away.

 

[LHUCKS]

Walker is a steal for a 2nd rounder...he's right up there with the top WRs in the game when 100 percent. He was unstoppable in '04.

 

[Z-Dog]

Assuming GB does move Walker, and stays at #5, my guess is that Vernon Davis becomes a very real consideration for them.

 

[TheLaw]

A WR coming off a torn ACL and a QB with a bum shoulder. Sounds about right for the Saints.

 

[aposulli]

Would Green Bay be interested in trading up to take Mario Williams? Most mocks I've seen have shown them taking Ferguson or Hawk and I assumed that they would be comfortable staying at #5.

Potentially the Saints could take Mario Williams and trade Charles Grant in a package to GB.

Sure the Saints would love to trade Grant in a package for Walker...But do the Packers need another DE?

KGB plus they just re-signed Kampman

 

[psychobillies]

A WR coming off a torn ACL and a QB with a bum shoulder. Sounds about right for the Saints.

Don't forget a RB with a torn ACL. The team doctor would earn his pay next year for sure.

 

[harrycarey]

Assuming GB does move Walker, and stays at #5, my guess is that Vernon Davis becomes a very real consideration for them.

trade Walker for Denver's new 2nd rounder and a 4th, then........1. Vernon Davis

2(a) Thomas Howard/Demeco Ryans/D'Qwell Jackson

2(b) Nick Mangold/Davin Joseph/Duece Lutui

 

[Kleck.]

Would Green Bay be interested in trading up to take Mario Williams?  Most mocks I've seen have shown them taking Ferguson or Hawk and I assumed that they would be comfortable staying at #5. 

Potentially the Saints could take Mario Williams and trade Charles Grant in a package to GB.

Sure the Saints would love to trade Grant in a package for Walker...But do the Packers need another DE?

KGB plus they just re-signed Kampman

KGB cannot play the run. He's a pass rush only DE.

 

[aposulli]

Would Green Bay be interested in trading up to take Mario Williams?  Most mocks I've seen have shown them taking Ferguson or Hawk and I assumed that they would be comfortable staying at #5. 

Potentially the Saints could take Mario Williams and trade Charles Grant in a package to GB.

Sure the Saints would love to trade Grant in a package for Walker...But do the Packers need another DE?

KGB plus they just re-signed Kampman

KGB cannot play the run. He's a pass rush only DE.

Still a great one at that. You really think the Pack would trade for Grant?My guess is they'll settle for a 2nd Rounder plus a little something.

 

[Kleck.]

Beautiful logic in your response, but no not kidding. 

Mark Campbell was signed, Ernie Conwell will be back.  Hilton, though he has good hands, will have to beat out Shad Meier just for a spot on the team.

...

Ahhh, you wanted logic from me, though you provided none to begin with. Classic.Here ya go ace.

Meier - has done nothing, couldn't even beat out Hilton last year

Conwell - two off-season surgeries

Campbell - signed as more of a blocker that a pass catcher

Hilton - just signed his tender; had 32 catches and over 350 yards in his 8 starts, that with the disaster that was the Saints QB situation the second half of last year.

...

Are you a Boo Williams support by any chance?

Cute.If I liked players begging for a PI call every time a ball was thrown near them, yeah, Boo would be at the top of my list...

Beautiful. So whether or not Hilton will have a job depends on your evaluation of him and the other TEs, rather than NO's evaluation of them? Classic.Its as easy as looking at the contracts.

Obviously Campbell is your starter. Given a good contract this offseason by the new coaching staff.

Ernie Conwell- Played very well as a starter last year, is recovered from injury. Getting paid a decent amount, and the Saints still have him around.

Shad Meier- Still makes more money than Hilton, but hasnt made and impact and will have to fight with Hilton for his spot.

Hilton drew ZERO interest as a restricted free agent, before signing a ONE year deal with ZERO guaranteed money. Saints made ZERO effort to extend him before he becomes a UFA next year. And he had 35 catches in 8 games!?!!!111

Nevermind that the Saints had one healthy WR and zero healthy TEs in the games he started. 35 catches and 11.3 ypc are a sure sign of Hilton's dominance.

Agree with diesel, as usual.People are blowing way too many wads on Hilton.

 

[Kleck.]

Would Green Bay be interested in trading up to take Mario Williams?  Most mocks I've seen have shown them taking Ferguson or Hawk and I assumed that they would be comfortable staying at #5. 

Potentially the Saints could take Mario Williams and trade Charles Grant in a package to GB.

Sure the Saints would love to trade Grant in a package for Walker...But do the Packers need another DE?

KGB plus they just re-signed Kampman

KGB cannot play the run. He's a pass rush only DE.

Still a great one at that. You really think the Pack would trade for Grant?

No. I think they would draft Mario at #5 if available, but I don't think they trade up for him or trade for Grant unless a great offer come up.I think Green Bay just needs a part-time DE that can play the run better and rotate with KGB. Keeping KGB fresh on those passing downs would really help.