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Walker granted permission to seek trade (1 Viewer)

Beautiful logic in your response, but no not kidding.

Mark Campbell was signed, Ernie Conwell will be back. Hilton, though he has good hands, will have to beat out Shad Meier just for a spot on the team.

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Ahhh, you wanted logic from me, though you provided none to begin with. Classic.Here ya go ace.

Meier - has done nothing, couldn't even beat out Hilton last year

Conwell - two off-season surgeries

Campbell - signed as more of a blocker that a pass catcher

Hilton - just signed his tender; had 32 catches and over 350 yards in his 8 starts, that with the disaster that was the Saints QB situation the second half of last year.

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Are you a Boo Williams support by any chance?
Cute.If I liked players begging for a PI call every time a ball was thrown near them, yeah, Boo would be at the top of my list...
Beautiful. So whether or not Hilton will have a job depends on your evaluation of him and the other TEs, rather than NO's evaluation of them? Classic.Its as easy as looking at the contracts.

Obviously Campbell is your starter. Given a good contract this offseason by the new coaching staff.

Ernie Conwell- Played very well as a starter last year, is recovered from injury. Getting paid a decent amount, and the Saints still have him around.

Shad Meier- Still makes more money than Hilton, but hasnt made and impact and will have to fight with Hilton for his spot.

Hilton drew ZERO interest as a restricted free agent, before signing a ONE year deal with ZERO guaranteed money. Saints made ZERO effort to extend him before he becomes a UFA next year. And he had 35 catches in 8 games!?!!!111

Nevermind that the Saints had one healthy WR and zero healthy TEs in the games he started. 35 catches and 11.3 ypc are a sure sign of Hilton's dominance.
Agree with diesel, as usual.People are blowing way too many wads on Hilton.
Add in a possible draft pick at TE. They paid good money to Meier and he did not play at all due to injury ...I sniff TE by committee possibly, although Hilton will definitely be in the mix ... Campbell is a blocking TE only ... so the pass catching TEs will be two of Conwell/Hilton/Meier/possible rook ...

If NO was truly sky high on Hilton, I think they would have signed him to more than a one year tender, potentially exposing him as a UFA next year ... I expected a multi-year deal, and was very dissapointed when it did not come down ...

They are high on Hilton based on keeping him on the roster for several years. The jury is still out on how high ...

And I have Hilton in 3 of my four dynasty leagues ...

 
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Packers | Team may accept a second-round pick for J. WalkerPublished Thu Apr 27 3:37:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Pete Dougherty, of PackersNews.com, reports the Green Bay Packers want a first-round draft pick in exchange for WR Javon Walker. However, a source said there's always the chance they'd settle for a second-rounder from the New Orleans Saints or Denver Broncos. New Orleans has second pick of the second round, which is pick No. 34 overall. Denver has the fifth pick of the second round, which is No. 37 overall.

 
If Hilton gets cut in NO he'll find a home somewhere. He showed too much pass catching ability to not be rostered.

 
Packers | Team may accept a second-round pick for J. WalkerPublished Thu Apr 27 3:37:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Pete Dougherty, of PackersNews.com, reports the Green Bay Packers want a first-round draft pick in exchange for WR Javon Walker. However, a source said there's always the chance they'd settle for a second-rounder from the New Orleans Saints or Denver Broncos. New Orleans has second pick of the second round, which is pick No. 34 overall. Denver has the fifth pick of the second round, which is No. 37 overall.
Trade History between these too, and some precident of New Orleans taking on Bad Character guysI believe it was Mike Mckenzie two seasons ago

Mole

 
This seems to be getting lost in the shuffle, but KC is IN the mix for Walker here. I think a swapping of #20 overall for #36 overall would be a nice deal for both teams. KC keeps all their picks and can then grab a 2nd tier CB and DE/OT in round 2, and it gives GB a LOT of flexibility with 2 of the top 20 picks.

 
This seems to be getting lost in the shuffle, but KC is IN the mix for Walker here. I think a swapping of #20 overall for #36 overall would be a nice deal for both teams. KC keeps all their picks and can then grab a 2nd tier CB and DE/OT in round 2, and it gives GB a LOT of flexibility with 2 of the top 20 picks.
This is a possibility.
 
This seems to be getting lost in the shuffle, but KC is IN the mix for Walker here. I think a swapping of #20 overall for #36 overall would be a nice deal for both teams. KC keeps all their picks and can then grab a 2nd tier CB and DE/OT in round 2, and it gives GB a LOT of flexibility with 2 of the top 20 picks.
Shanny is the most agressive of the parties involved though.
 
This seems to be getting lost in the shuffle, but KC is IN the mix for Walker here.  I think a swapping of #20 overall for #36 overall would be a nice deal for both teams.  KC keeps all their picks and can then grab a 2nd tier CB and DE/OT in round 2, and it gives GB a LOT of flexibility with 2 of the top 20 picks.
I'd rather see them acquire #34 or #37 than move up 16 spots to #20. An additional early 2nd would benefit Green Bay more than having two 1sts and a 3rd, IMO. They have holes and need more picks to fill them. I'm also not sure the talent available at #20 is really all that better than the talent available #34-#37."If" somehow Chad Greenway falls to #20 and Green Bay does not take Hawk at #5, then I would be much more in favor of this idea.

 
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This seems to be getting lost in the shuffle, but KC is IN the mix for Walker here. I think a swapping of #20 overall for #36 overall would be a nice deal for both teams. KC keeps all their picks and can then grab a 2nd tier CB and DE/OT in round 2, and it gives GB a LOT of flexibility with 2 of the top 20 picks.
Walker to KC! I would be doing cartwheels. If he's healthy, imagine that KC offense. I have LJ in two dynasty league and he would simply dominate with Walker stretching the field (not that he won't dominate anyway). Add more room for Gonzo as well - yes, that would be a nice thing :banned:
 
Thompson said this afternoon that it is very unlikely that a Walker trade gets done. Granted that may be GM speak, but those were his words.

Asked if he thought Walker would be traded -

" No. I would not think the odds are in favor of that happening. We're just following up on things. I don't necessarily feel this will end in anything. We're going through the process."

"There's very few untouchable players, so there is (a chance)," Thompson said of a trade. But he expressed confidence that Walker would play for the Packers again.

 
Packers | Team may accept a second-round pick for J. WalkerPublished Thu Apr 27 3:37:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Pete Dougherty, of PackersNews.com, reports the Green Bay Packers want a first-round draft pick in exchange for WR Javon Walker. However, a source said there's always the chance they'd settle for a second-rounder from the New Orleans Saints or Denver Broncos. New Orleans has second pick of the second round, which is pick No. 34 overall. Denver has the fifth pick of the second round, which is No. 37 overall.
Trade History between these too, and some precident of New Orleans taking on Bad Character guysI believe it was Mike Mckenzie two seasons ago

Mole
Mike McKenzie was a bad character guy? It seems like every other Packer pulls the same contract stunt, but that doesn't make them a "bad character guy".
 
Walker is a very talented WR. If the physical exam shows his knee is ready to play, the injury isn't going to diminish his value very much. IMO, he's a better WR than any of them coming out of the draft this year, and he's NFL ready....not some rookie who'll take time to get acclimated to the league.

Reportedly, Denver has offered a 2nd and a 3rd, and if this is true, then New Orleans would need to improve that offer.

I got to see a lot of New Orleans last year because they practiced right outside my classroom window (No crap....I had an unobstructed 2nd floor view of them). I wouldn't want Stallworth....he runs bad routes and drops passes.

As far as trading up is concerned, nobody knows what Ted Thompson is thinking but I know the Packers have made a consistent effort to see if they could get Reggie Bush without mortgaging the farm. If by some miracle Houston doesn't take him, then I could definitely see the Packers trying furiously to trade with New Orleans.

But they aren't going to pay a premium to move up to take Mario Williams when they can sit tight at #5 and take Hawk. Essentially, they'd be trading AJ Hawk and another pick for Mario Williams. I'd be really, really surprised if they did that as it would appear to go against Thompson's basic character.

Walker isn't going to play in Green Bay anymore and they'll have to trade him. But they don't necessarily have to trade him before the draft, and if nobody makes an attractive enough offer the Packers will just sit and wait until somebody loses a starting WR to an injury. They're not going to give Walker away for nothing.

Walker is not a bad guy, but a guy I know who rode on a plane with him once called him "a dumb blonde". Nice, friendly, but not the sharpest tool in the shed. I wouldn't count on him knowing what his best interests are and it's well within the realm of possibility he'll do something stupid.

If Walker is dealt to New Orleans, I'd say the more likely package would be New Orleans second round pick this year and a little something extra next year. But I still think Denver's 2nd and 3rd will be the trump card in this deal.

 
Thompson said this afternoon that it is very unlikely that a Walker trade gets done. Granted that may be GM speak, but those were his words.

Asked if he thought Walker would be traded -

" No. I would not think the odds are in favor of that happening. We're just following up on things. I don't necessarily feel this will end in anything. We're going through the process."

"There's very few untouchable players, so there is (a chance)," Thompson said of a trade. But he expressed confidence that Walker would play for the Packers again.
What's Thompson supposed to say..."Javon's will be dealt by the draft"? If he say's he actively shopping Walker the offers will be crap. He's just trying to drive the price up. I'd be shocked if Javon isn't traded in the next 48 hours.
 
According to Ted Thompson, the Packers have not granted Walker permission to seek a trade, they've allowed him to visit a couple interested teams for a physical. TT is playing this very close to the vest and doing a good job in my opinion.

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=2
Just saw this.... interesting point of clarification!!
Packers | Thompson says trade report not accurate

Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:41:41 -0700

Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson said an ESPN report that the Packers have given WR Javon Walker permission to seek a trade is inaccurate. The Packers have given teams permission to visit with Walker, but Thompson said it was just a part of the process of fielding offers from other teams. Asked if the odds were that Walker would be traded, Thompson said, "No. I would not think the odds are in favor of that happening. We're just following up on things. I don't necessarily feel this will end in anything. We're going through the process." Thompson did not say that he wouldn't trade Walker, only that it was unlikely it would happen.
 
According to Ted Thompson, the Packers have not granted Walker permission to seek a trade, they've allowed him to visit a couple interested teams for a physical. TT is playing this very close to the vest and doing a good job in my opinion.

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=2
I heard that too and think it's a bunch of GM speak. Is it normal for teams to allow their players to visit other NFL teams for physicals if they had no intentions of trading that player?Thompson's doing the best he can to maintain his poker face. :lmao:

 
For the record I think Walker is going to get traded as it is probably what is best for both the Packers and Walker at this time. I really hope that Philly becomes the front runner for him and gets some sort of deal done. Walker would be a monster in Philly.

I think this Walker has no leverage crap that was written by many posters on here is becoming less apparent.

 
For the record I think Walker is going to get traded as it is probably what is best for both the Packers and Walker at this time. I really hope that Philly becomes the front runner for him and gets some sort of deal done. Walker would be a monster in Philly.

I think this Walker has no leverage crap that was written by many posters on here is becoming less apparent.
Just because he was given permission to seek a trade does not mean he has leverage. The Packers are still going to get proper value for him and not move him for a piece of pie.Of course he has lower value coming off a very serious injury, but the Packers are not simply trying to get rid of him at any cost.

 
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