We have banned Ray Rice from our FFL for life - please join us (1 Viewer)

[Hankmoody]

There's one thing I don't understand....why the huge outcry now that we saw him do it when we knew all along what he did? Why does seeing him do it change anything?

Don't get me wrong, he's a scumbag, but I don't understand the sudden uproar from the league and fans.

Hearing about Ray Rice knocking out his fiance and dragging her out of an elevator? 2 game ban.

Seeing Ray Rice knock out his fiance and drag her out of an elevator? Ban for life.

I'll admit I'm one of those people. Once I saw the video yesterday I was disgusted and totally had a different POV on it. I guess until you actually see it, you don't know what exactly happened. Seeing it drove it home for me. The scary thing to me was his demeanor after he did it. Like it was natural for him. No remorse. Didn't say "oh god...what have I done?". Just seemed like he was bothered with having to DRAG her out of the elevator.

Same for me. I can't believe the people that don't understand why it's more impactful actually seeing it.

I think people understand very much why it's more impactful.

It's that people can mull over it a moment and still seem to think it's OK to have their outrage so affected by a video that's the problem.

If you are admitting that the video made you look at it differently, then isn't is also implicit that you are capable of not taking something as serious if there isn't video?

Let the significance of that distinction sink in for a minute. By definition, if you are more outraged because there is video, it necessarily follows that you are less outraged when there isn't.

So are you saying that it's OK to care less or be less outraged by violence so long as you don't have to actually look at it?

There is rarely video of violent crime. So is it just possible that you are walking through life being somewhat dismissive of violent crime since there isn't often video of it?

It's a bit chilling that the population in this day and age is still so affected by sensationalism and yet at the same time desensitized to the everyday violence that goes on that we only hear about.

How many videos of someone getting beat down will we have to see before we start taking similar situations where video isn't present just as seriously?

As I stated earlier, if seeing the video has "opened your eyes" to the issue and you don't need to see video next time, great. But at some point being self-aware enough to understand that the video increases outrage ought to enable one to overcome both the sensationalism AND desensitization.

The issue isn't that the video shouldn't make it more impactful - of course it will.

The question is why did it take a video to be impactful enough? Can one not realize the horror just from hearing the words? Does the desciption of "punched her and knocked her unconscious" not make it clear what happened, you have to actually see the video to get really riled up?

 

[mrbigg]

There's one thing I don't understand....why the huge outcry now that we saw him do it when we knew all along what he did? Why does seeing him do it change anything?

Don't get me wrong, he's a scumbag, but I don't understand the sudden uproar from the league and fans.

Hearing about Ray Rice knocking out his fiance and dragging her out of an elevator? 2 game ban.

Seeing Ray Rice knock out his fiance and drag her out of an elevator? Ban for life.

I'll admit I'm one of those people. Once I saw the video yesterday I was disgusted and totally had a different POV on it. I guess until you actually see it, you don't know what exactly happened. Seeing it drove it home for me. The scary thing to me was his demeanor after he did it. Like it was natural for him. No remorse. Didn't say "oh god...what have I done?". Just seemed like he was bothered with having to DRAG her out of the elevator.

Same for me. I can't believe the people that don't understand why it's more impactful actually seeing it.

I think people understand very much why it's more impactful.

It's that people can mull over it a moment and still seem to think it's OK to have their outrage so affected by a video that's the problem.

If you are admitting that the video made you look at it differently, then isn't is also implicit that you are capable of not taking something as serious if there isn't video?

Let the significance of that distinction sink in for a minute. By definition, if you are more outraged because there is video, it necessarily follows that you are less outraged when there isn't.

So are you saying that it's OK to care less or be less outraged by violence so long as you don't have to actually look at it?

There is rarely video of violent crime. So is it just possible that you are walking through life being somewhat dismissive of violent crime since there isn't often video of it?

It's a bit chilling that the population in this day and age is still so affected by sensationalism and yet at the same time desensitized to the everyday violence that goes on that we only hear about.

How many videos of someone getting beat down will we have to see before we start taking similar situations where video isn't present just as seriously?

As I stated earlier, if seeing the video has "opened your eyes" to the issue and you don't need to see video next time, great. But at some point being self-aware enough to understand that the video increases outrage ought to enable one to overcome both the sensationalism AND desensitization.

The issue isn't that the video shouldn't make it more impactful - of course it will.

The question is why did it take a video to be impactful enough? Can one not realize the horror just from hearing the words? Does the desciption of "punched her and knocked her unconscious" not make it clear what happened, you have to actually see the video to get really riled up?

Obviously not... Did you know before the vietnam war, it was the cool thing to joined the army. Do you know why that changed? Video reporting during the war and showed it's horror. It's another reason why the news are banned on the front line after that war

 

[Sinn Fein]

I hope Tom doesn't also have AP in this league.

Tom does have Peterson and refuses to drop him. Tom is a horrible person.

We are considering a ban on all people named Tom.

 

[Fariq]

I hope Tom doesn't also have AP in this league.

Tom does have Peterson and refuses to drop him. Tom is a horrible person.

We are considering a ban on all people named Tom.

Luckily, there are no people named Tom in my league.

 

[dtroitkid]

There's one thing I don't understand....why the huge outcry now that we saw him do it when we knew all along what he did? Why does seeing him do it change anything?

Don't get me wrong, he's a scumbag, but I don't understand the sudden uproar from the league and fans.

Hearing about Ray Rice knocking out his fiance and dragging her out of an elevator? 2 game ban.

Seeing Ray Rice knock out his fiance and drag her out of an elevator? Ban for life.

I'll admit I'm one of those people. Once I saw the video yesterday I was disgusted and totally had a different POV on it. I guess until you actually see it, you don't know what exactly happened. Seeing it drove it home for me. The scary thing to me was his demeanor after he did it. Like it was natural for him. No remorse. Didn't say "oh god...what have I done?". Just seemed like he was bothered with having to DRAG her out of the elevator.

Same for me. I can't believe the people that don't understand why it's more impactful actually seeing it.

I think people understand very much why it's more impactful.

It's that people can mull over it a moment and still seem to think it's OK to have their outrage so affected by a video that's the problem.

If you are admitting that the video made you look at it differently, then isn't is also implicit that you are capable of not taking something as serious if there isn't video?

Let the significance of that distinction sink in for a minute. By definition, if you are more outraged because there is video, it necessarily follows that you are less outraged when there isn't.

So are you saying that it's OK to care less or be less outraged by violence so long as you don't have to actually look at it?

There is rarely video of violent crime. So is it just possible that you are walking through life being somewhat dismissive of violent crime since there isn't often video of it?

It's a bit chilling that the population in this day and age is still so affected by sensationalism and yet at the same time desensitized to the everyday violence that goes on that we only hear about.

How many videos of someone getting beat down will we have to see before we start taking similar situations where video isn't present just as seriously?

As I stated earlier, if seeing the video has "opened your eyes" to the issue and you don't need to see video next time, great. But at some point being self-aware enough to understand that the video increases outrage ought to enable one to overcome both the sensationalism AND desensitization.

The issue isn't that the video shouldn't make it more impactful - of course it will.

The question is why did it take a video to be impactful enough? Can one not realize the horror just from hearing the words? Does the desciption of "punched her and knocked her unconscious" not make it clear what happened, you have to actually see the video to get really riled up?

Obviously not... Did you know before the vietnam war, it was the cool thing to joined the army. Do you know why that changed? Video reporting during the war and showed it's horror. It's another reason why the news are banned on the front line after that war

I believe joining the army stopped being cool when the army started engaging in controversial wars.

 

[flapgreen]

How about Peyton Manning?

Naughright alleges that Manning pulled down his pants and placed his #### and "naked butt and rectum" on her face.

 

[HughHoney]

I thought this guy was a dope at first but seeing what AP did today has me thinking otherwise. The email has been sent and a vote should be taking place shortly. Banning some of these subhumans from our fantasy league and not having any association is showing we don't support this behavior. I can't be the only one feeling this way after seeing what happened with AP.

 

[cc texan]

I thought this guy was a dope at first but seeing what AP did today has me thinking otherwise. The email has been sent and a vote should be taking place shortly. Banning some of these subhumans from our fantasy league and not having any association is showing we don't support this behavior. I can't be the only one feeling this way after seeing what happened with AP.

If you want to actually make an impact on the matter, banning player "x" from your league isn't going to do it -no one in the real world cares what you do in fantasy football.

Now, should you actually want to do something useful, stop watching the NFL, consuming NFL content online, and buying merchandise. Hitting the NFL's revenue stream is the only way they're going to ever stop employing players you find distasteful. Get enough people to do that, maybe you'll effect change.

 

[Widbil83]

Man some people take there fantasy football pretty seriously. It is "fantasy" after all.

 

[chinawildman]

I thought this guy was a dope at first but seeing what AP did today has me thinking otherwise. The email has been sent and a vote should be taking place shortly. Banning some of these subhumans from our fantasy league and not having any association is showing we don't support this behavior. I can't be the only one feeling this way after seeing what happened with AP.

Riiight.... and doing so will accomplish what exactly? Promote child abuse awareness? And why vote, why not just make a promise to yourself that you will never draft Adrian Peterson again in your lifetime? Or is the thought of him racking up TDs on another guy's roster just that intolerable?

Please, update us on how much better you feel when your self-serving charade of moral validation concludes.

 

[Shawn]

did you guys ban Vick for life too? Are you gonna ban ADP? Did you ban the Baltimore D/ST because of Ray Lewis when he was playing this is a joke of a thread...

 

[Shawn]

that'll teach him to hit women.

Lmao cuz Ray Rice cares if he is on your Fantasy roster...

 

[ldizzle]

Lock this crap thread already

 

[Limp Ditka]

Lock this crap thread already

you seem upset.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Lock this crap thread already

don't you dare touch this gold

 

[HughHoney]

Lock this crap thread already

Do you really think it's fair that the majority of the owners in the league consider ppl like Rice and AP to be miscreants that they don't wanna root for. While other owners have no moral compass and freely draft said players? It gives one set of owners a better and larger pool of players to choose from and simply isn't fair.

Also the vote came back 10-2, players like Rice and AP cannot be picked in next years draft. Proud of the guys I'm in the league with, real stand up men.

 

[nyy45]

I don't even know what to say to this

 

[Buffaloes]

Lock this crap thread already

Do you really think it's fair that the majority of the owners in the league consider ppl like Rice and AP to be miscreants that they don't wanna root for. While other owners have no moral compass and freely draft said players? It gives one set of owners a better and larger pool of players to choose from and simply isn't fair.

Also the vote came back 10-2, players like Rice and AP cannot be picked in next years draft. Proud of the guys I'm in the league with, real stand up men.

 

[buck naked]

Seeing that you decided to be judgmental, I think your leaguemates should ban all guys in your league that are addicted to porn, or are liars, or steal time from their employers while on the internet doing fantasy football stuff. That will leave exactly 0 players left in your league. But you all can then feel proud of your moral stances.