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Wearing cufflinks to work. Is it pretentious? (1 Viewer)
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Noodlefish
Bloomin' brilliant...
At least he didn't say "chronograph"..."timepiece"
Hi noodle,I'm not ready to buy your newsletter yet but your ideas intrigue me.Just because americans are unable to dress well, it doesn't mean that anyone who is is naturally an idiot.
Taking personal pride in one's appearance is essential in my line of work. I'd be the one who looked a "#######" if I turned up to work in a Brooks Bros buttondown and slacks. My clients want professional advice, from professionals. Dressing like an FBG (admittedly this is from a small sample size) would not get me through the front door, let alone to the desk of an executive...
You guys should get over you prejudice and start taking an interest in what you wear. Look at the cufflinks that the guy is wearing. Are they like something from a "Cracker Jack" box, or are they well-worn silver, plain, stylish, something that is subtle but still makes a statement? Look at the the shirt they wear. Is it a button down, with frayed collar and cuffs, with cufflinks pushed through the butotn holes? If so, yeah, he's a #######. If it's a decent shirt, well-made, good stitching, nicely shaped collar and decent cuffs, then he's either someone who knows how to dress, or he got lucky. Either way he prob deserves a few kudos for making the effort.
As for watches, well, there's obviously a difference between a "statement" watch and something that is worn because the guy likes it. Large Rolexes often get in people's faces, especially when the guy has a habit of shooting his cuffs to show off the links, and exposing the watch. But anyone who concsiously does that is probably an idiot. Or an egotist. Or both.
Real style is not about what you wear, but how you wear it...
So give up on the broad, sweeping generalisations, and go out and spend a little more that ten bucks on a shirt. You may surprise yourself...
Can you give us a little more detail on what clothes you consider "real style"?
Thanks.
J
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Hi mevlin,You're not talking about the time Jzilla said a pocket square was always gold as long as the guy had new clothes are you?Waste of time when King Joe basically called me a tool for posting that a simple white pocket square is better than nothing at all.I fear it's just and you and me vs the great unwashed...Nice shtick developing here.Exactly.Scupper's Third Law: if your cufflinks are bigger than your watch, you need a bigger watch...So cufflinks are okay as long as they help to cover the large Rolex watches
Perhaps it could become your mission to edumacate them, sartorially speaking?
I said
You think that's calling you a tool? J
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MelvinTScupper
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my apologies Joe. It was in this thread that you called me a tool
From pocket square to this?Some people absolutley do love to make sure everyone knows how much their house is worth but don't like being a tool and just blurting it out. That's a fact. You think that's calling you a tool?
And again, zillow is great for them.
J
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MelvinTScupper
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Some people absolutley do love to make sure everyone knows how much their house is worth but don't like being a tool and just blurting it out. That's a fact. You think that's calling you a tool?
And again, zillow is great for them.
J
Noodlefish
Bloomin' brilliant...
JoeThanks for your question. I would say that "style" is just as much about how you wear things, as what you wear. As a pictoral example of "style" in its widest sense, I would suggest you browse through "the Sartorialist" (here). It's a blog that's chock full of photos taken on the streets of New York of "ordinary" people, wearing some extraordinary clothes. Again, it might not be the whole ensemble that makes it "stylish", but there's usually something in each of the photos that I would consider stylish...Hi noodle,I'm not ready to buy your newsletter yet but your ideas intrigue me.
Taking personal pride in one's appearance is essential in my line of work. I'd be the one who looked a "#######" if I turned up to work in a Brooks Bros buttondown and slacks. My clients want professional advice, from professionals. Dressing like an FBG (admittedly this is from a small sample size) would not get me through the front door, let alone to the desk of an executive...
You guys should get over you prejudice and start taking an interest in what you wear. Look at the cufflinks that the guy is wearing. Are they like something from a "Cracker Jack" box, or are they well-worn silver, plain, stylish, something that is subtle but still makes a statement? Look at the the shirt they wear. Is it a button down, with frayed collar and cuffs, with cufflinks pushed through the butotn holes? If so, yeah, he's a #######. If it's a decent shirt, well-made, good stitching, nicely shaped collar and decent cuffs, then he's either someone who knows how to dress, or he got lucky. Either way he prob deserves a few kudos for making the effort.
As for watches, well, there's obviously a difference between a "statement" watch and something that is worn because the guy likes it. Large Rolexes often get in people's faces, especially when the guy has a habit of shooting his cuffs to show off the links, and exposing the watch. But anyone who concsiously does that is probably an idiot. Or an egotist. Or both.
Real style is not about what you wear, but how you wear it...
So give up on the broad, sweeping generalisations, and go out and spend a little more that ten bucks on a shirt. You may surprise yourself...
Can you give us a little more detail on what clothes you consider "real style"?
Thanks.
J
I also think that style is something deeply personal. My style is a million miles away from the majority of FBGs, for example, and probably has just as much to do with upbringing, education, geographic location, social status and wealth, as anything else, but I do believe that "style" cuts across all these things, and should be recognisable, even if it does not conform to one's own personal views...
No idea if any of that made any sense at all, but there we are...
Noods
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
Can we please stop the Hijack? This thread is about cuff links. If you would like to discuss tools, please go elsewhere.
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MelvinTScupper
Guest
directly, or with a backhanded tag?
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
Based on the results, I guess I am in the minority.
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MelvinTScupper
Guest
I'm in the uberminority
Hi noodle,I'm with you on the "how you wear it" vs "what you wear" on some things. But that doesn't seem to be what you're saying with thisJoeThanks for your question. I would say that "style" is just as much about how you wear things, as what you wear. As a pictoral example of "style" in its widest sense, I would suggest you browse through "the Sartorialist" (here). It's a blog that's chock full of photos taken on the streets of New York of "ordinary" people, wearing some extraordinary clothes. Again, it might not be the whole ensemble that makes it "stylish", but there's usually something in each of the photos that I would consider stylish...Hi noodle,I'm not ready to buy your newsletter yet but your ideas intrigue me.
Taking personal pride in one's appearance is essential in my line of work. I'd be the one who looked a "#######" if I turned up to work in a Brooks Bros buttondown and slacks. My clients want professional advice, from professionals. Dressing like an FBG (admittedly this is from a small sample size) would not get me through the front door, let alone to the desk of an executive...
You guys should get over you prejudice and start taking an interest in what you wear. Look at the cufflinks that the guy is wearing. Are they like something from a "Cracker Jack" box, or are they well-worn silver, plain, stylish, something that is subtle but still makes a statement? Look at the the shirt they wear. Is it a button down, with frayed collar and cuffs, with cufflinks pushed through the butotn holes? If so, yeah, he's a #######. If it's a decent shirt, well-made, good stitching, nicely shaped collar and decent cuffs, then he's either someone who knows how to dress, or he got lucky. Either way he prob deserves a few kudos for making the effort.
As for watches, well, there's obviously a difference between a "statement" watch and something that is worn because the guy likes it. Large Rolexes often get in people's faces, especially when the guy has a habit of shooting his cuffs to show off the links, and exposing the watch. But anyone who concsiously does that is probably an idiot. Or an egotist. Or both.
Real style is not about what you wear, but how you wear it...
So give up on the broad, sweeping generalisations, and go out and spend a little more that ten bucks on a shirt. You may surprise yourself...
Can you give us a little more detail on what clothes you consider "real style"?
Thanks.
J
I also think that style is something deeply personal. My style is a million miles away from the majority of FBGs, for example, and probably has just as much to do with upbringing, education, geographic location, social status and wealth, as anything else, but I do believe that "style" cuts across all these things, and should be recognisable, even if it does not conform to one's own personal views...
No idea if any of that made any sense at all, but there we are...
Noods
Can you elaborate?And for your own style, what would that consist of given the factors you stated (which I agree have an influence)
J
shining path
:prettyplease:
This post has inspired me to both shower and shave before going to work tomorrow.
Taking personal pride in one's appearance is essential in my line of work. I'd be the one who looked a "#######" if I turned up to work in a Brooks Bros buttondown and slacks. My clients want professional advice, from professionals. Dressing like an FBG (admittedly this is from a small sample size) would not get me through the front door, let alone to the desk of an executive...
You guys should get over you prejudice and start taking an interest in what you wear. Look at the cufflinks that the guy is wearing. Are they like something from a "Cracker Jack" box, or are they well-worn silver, plain, stylish, something that is subtle but still makes a statement? Look at the the shirt they wear. Is it a button down, with frayed collar and cuffs, with cufflinks pushed through the butotn holes? If so, yeah, he's a #######. If it's a decent shirt, well-made, good stitching, nicely shaped collar and decent cuffs, then he's either someone who knows how to dress, or he got lucky. Either way he prob deserves a few kudos for making the effort.
As for watches, well, there's obviously a difference between a "statement" watch and something that is worn because the guy likes it. Large Rolexes often get in people's faces, especially when the guy has a habit of shooting his cuffs to show off the links, and exposing the watch. But anyone who concsiously does that is probably an idiot. Or an egotist. Or both.
Real style is not about what you wear, but how you wear it...
So give up on the broad, sweeping generalisations, and go out and spend a little more that ten bucks on a shirt. You may surprise yourself...
chet
Footballguy
I'd like to understand why some people think it's pretentious to wear cuff links.
Are these the same people who think they're dressing up if they wear khakis and a golf shirt? Do these people ever wear suits?
In addition to some of the great points Noodles has made, here's another: don't wear a button down with a double breasted suit. I cringe whenever I see this. It screams CLUELESS.
Are these the same people who think they're dressing up if they wear khakis and a golf shirt? Do these people ever wear suits?
In addition to some of the great points Noodles has made, here's another: don't wear a button down with a double breasted suit. I cringe whenever I see this. It screams CLUELESS.
Hi chet,Can't you just avoid the double breasted suit altogether?
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MelvinTScupper
Guest
Why?
It's just best to avoid it.Plus, it neatly solves chet's situation.
J
Redwes25
Footballguy
I said yes. I don't wear them but a number of people in my office do. I think they are trying to put on a very professional image on the almost pretentious level. Kind of like I am so professional that I am better then you.
I also think I see more Lawyers wear them then other professions. That is just my sense. When I had a regular job working in the Energy industry, prior to Law School, very few people seemed to wear them. On the other hand, everyone other person at large law firms seem to wear them.
I also think I see more Lawyers wear them then other professions. That is just my sense. When I had a regular job working in the Energy industry, prior to Law School, very few people seemed to wear them. On the other hand, everyone other person at large law firms seem to wear them.
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MelvinTScupper
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I don't own many (and I don't have to wear suits very often thse days), but I think what you're not so softly trying to imply is that all DB suits are "out" and you couldn't be further from qualified to make that statement.Some are, and the whole Italian mafia look is long since moved into the realm of dead. However, DB suits, specifically well tailored English styled DB suits (ticket pockets, bold stripes, wide lapels and double vents) are still VERY much considered "in"
Especially when paired with a strong patterned shirt (French cuff, mit links, of course) a bold colored striped tie, and a pocket square (similar colors to tie and/or shirt, not matching).
In any case, I'm sure we'll get the standard responses here...but it is what it is.
Sorry.
is the only response for this one mellvin. Good try though. And please don't interpret this post as calling you a tool like you did the last one.J
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MelvinTScupper
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Well, predictable, at least.Sorry.
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MelvinTScupper
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Welcome seth. Hope your ##### doesn't hurt today. Whoops, too late.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Which is what? This phrase is stupid. Sorry but it's like the new catch phrase that means absolutely nothing.
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MelvinTScupper
Guest
Meaning I won't be surprised when a bunch of guys who think pleated khakis are high fashion come in and chime in about what is and isn't style (see JoeB's
about DB suits)
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Franknbeans
Footballguy
ThanksMeaning I won't be surprised when a bunch of guys who think pleated khakis are high fashion come in and chime in about what is and isn't style (see JoeB's
B-Deep
Footballguy
OK,I've NEVER spent this much time or effort analyzing what some other dude is wearing. NTTIAWWT
Taking personal pride in one's appearance is essential in my line of work. I'd be the one who looked a "#######" if I turned up to work in a Brooks Bros buttondown and slacks. My clients want professional advice, from professionals. Dressing like an FBG (admittedly this is from a small sample size) would not get me through the front door, let alone to the desk of an executive...
You guys should get over you prejudice and start taking an interest in what you wear. Look at the cufflinks that the guy is wearing. Are they like something from a "Cracker Jack" box, or are they well-worn silver, plain, stylish, something that is subtle but still makes a statement? Look at the the shirt they wear. Is it a button down, with frayed collar and cuffs, with cufflinks pushed through the butotn holes? If so, yeah, he's a #######. If it's a decent shirt, well-made, good stitching, nicely shaped collar and decent cuffs, then he's either someone who knows how to dress, or he got lucky. Either way he prob deserves a few kudos for making the effort.
As for watches, well, there's obviously a difference between a "statement" watch and something that is worn because the guy likes it. Large Rolexes often get in people's faces, especially when the guy has a habit of shooting his cuffs to show off the links, and exposing the watch. But anyone who concsiously does that is probably an idiot. Or an egotist. Or both.
Real style is not about what you wear, but how you wear it...
So give up on the broad, sweeping generalisations, and go out and spend a little more that ten bucks on a shirt. You may surprise yourself...
Hi bb,It's my opinion that as a general rule, it's best for most guys to avoid them altogether.
Sure, some guys can pull them off.
But most wind up looking like Letterman. And it's not because Letterman is wearing cheap suits. And I'd contend that the guys that can pull them off would be better off in a single breasted suit. Just my opinion.
J
bigbottom
Footballguy
You're right that it's probably best for most guys to avoid them. A DB suit should (these days) be worn in an extremely conservative/formal/distinguished fashion. I don't have any DB suits because I think I look too young to pull one off. But, worn properly, DB suits are incredibly classy and stylish.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I don't think you look that young.
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MelvinTScupper
Guest
Have you seen pictures of me? Christ, I'm as old as dirt.....see the Cabin Owner avatar.
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
Nope, not monogrammed. Just a moderately priced pair that are silver.On a somewhat related note, my direct supervisor came in wearing a french cuff shirt. Rather than use cuff links (he doesn't have any), he just used the cloth elastic holders that came with the shirt.
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MelvinTScupper
Guest
my point was that guys who go with "what's easy" aren't the guys who should be telling you what's pretentious, or stylish.
shining path
:prettyplease:
I actually have monogrammed cufflinks. I think I've worn them twice.
guest 54788
Prince of ShantyTown
I own a suit.
I have no idea how many breasteses it has.
I have no idea how many breasteses it has.
SofaKings.
Footballguy
DB dark suits are solid.
shining path
:prettyplease:
Double-breasted suits probably look better on heavy-set guys. Whenever I've worn one it looks like it's swallowing me. Maybe the tailoring just wasn't good though.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Ken,
I'm a big fan of cufflinks. When I wear a suit, I have cufflinks on 90% of the time. But I'm also a fan of them in more casual setting. I sported some links in Vegas last weekend with jeans and a button down shirt, it's a look I've been going with a lot lately.
I'm a big fan of cufflinks. When I wear a suit, I have cufflinks on 90% of the time. But I'm also a fan of them in more casual setting. I sported some links in Vegas last weekend with jeans and a button down shirt, it's a look I've been going with a lot lately.
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
With or without the FBGs baseball hat?Ken,
I'm a big fan of cufflinks. When I wear a suit, I have cufflinks on 90% of the time. But I'm also a fan of them in more casual setting. I sported some links in Vegas last weekend with jeans and a button down shirt, it's a look I've been going with a lot lately.
rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
I am a poor painting professor, so I would definitely look pretentious wearing cuff links. I do use a pocket watch.
bostonfred
Footballguy
"sported some links"?Ken,
I'm a big fan of cufflinks. When I wear a suit, I have cufflinks on 90% of the time. But I'm also a fan of them in more casual setting. I sported some links in Vegas last weekend with jeans and a button down shirt, it's a look I've been going with a lot lately.
