DJ Scoob
Footballguy
It has gotta be Dillon. Dillon is the player that I would feel a lot more safer with. Edmunds is still an unknown commodity even though he should be good. Give Edmunds a week or two.
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Week 01 2022 who should I start thread **OFFICIALLY UNOFFICIAL** (1 Viewer)
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QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Thanks for the feedback - the good news is both are night games so it may come down how my game is going. If I am far behind I may need to go Lamb/Sutton just to add more variance and thus more upside.
-QG
TripleThreat
Footballguy
everyone seems to be Dillon over Chase Edmonds... here's a curveball... what if you're already playing Aaron Jones?
(ETA Lazard being doubtful makes an even stronger case for Dillon)
(ETA Lazard being doubtful makes an even stronger case for Dillon)
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
definitely your mom. It's been my experience, her ball skills are unmatched.
tricky1066
Footballguy
Arizona... Rondale Moore, hamstring yesterday's practice... my opp. has K Murray QB .... thanks. Doubs a go me thinks.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Then I play both AJones & Dillon without hesitation.
Chaka
Footballguy
The more I think about it the more I like the Lamb & Sutton combo.
Chaka
Footballguy
I like Jones over Edmunds and I like Dillon over Edmunds so, yeah I'd start both.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’d probably go with Gage over Doubs.
Godwin will be limited if he plays. Gage should have a more reliable floor.
Krilons Resa
Footballguy
I know this is gross but:
Tua v. NE
or
Fields v. 49ers
also...
Lance v. CHI
or
Dak v. TB
Tua v. NE
or
Fields v. 49ers
also...
Lance v. CHI
or
Dak v. TB
DJ Scoob
Footballguy
Thanks to Mr. Robinson last night I'm a big underdog now in a PPR league. Need to pick two of three here.
* C. Edmonds vs NE -- Probably splits with Mostert, but gets the receptions. I'm a NE fan and I have no idea what that team is bring on defense or offense.
* B. Aiyuk @CHI -- I'm already starting Lance for upside. Kittle probably out so he could see more targets than usual. Could also see SF just running with a lead.
* AJ Dillon @MN -- I'm already starting A. Jones and both did great against MN last year. Hard to sit him especially if Lazard out.
* T. Pollard vs TB -- Conventional wisdom says Zeke runs into the wall against TB's run D and Pollard is used out of the backfield.
Which two to crawl back out of a hole?
Thanks
* C. Edmonds vs NE -- Probably splits with Mostert, but gets the receptions. I'm a NE fan and I have no idea what that team is bring on defense or offense.
* B. Aiyuk @CHI -- I'm already starting Lance for upside. Kittle probably out so he could see more targets than usual. Could also see SF just running with a lead.
* AJ Dillon @MN -- I'm already starting A. Jones and both did great against MN last year. Hard to sit him especially if Lazard out.
* T. Pollard vs TB -- Conventional wisdom says Zeke runs into the wall against TB's run D and Pollard is used out of the backfield.
Which two to crawl back out of a hole?
Thanks
DJ Scoob
Footballguy
The weather does not look good in Chicago , so even if Alyuk would be getting more passes I always am leery of the rain games and teams turning to the run.
Pollard would also not be my choice. TB's D is really tough so I think Dak will have to try and go downfield more because he might be coming from behind in the game.
That leaves Edmonds and Dillon. I think Edmonds does pretty well between the rushes and receptions he gets. AJ Dillon should also do well with Lazard out.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Tua
ETA: Note - I don’t expect either to be good this week.
Maybe Fields is the better start, but it’s hard to recommend anyone against the Niners D in the rain, and MIA is gonna hit Hill deep at least a couple times to show why they spent the $
Dak. I expect the Cowboys to have to throw a lot.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
You listed 4, but I like Aiyuk & Dillon here.
I want to see Pollard in the slot before I commit to him as a flex play.
Feel like Lance is gonna uncork a bomb to Aiyuk. Rain typically favors the receiver vs the DB, and Lance’s long ball has looked like a strength of his game.
I’m a little hesitant on Chase until I see how this team looks, and BB has had Tua’s number. Plus his injury is the type that could pop back up.
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QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I agree with Scoob. Tua has improved weapons so if he is gonna turn the corner this will be where he shows it.
I generally like Dak better than Lance so that is how I would go.
-QG
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Give me Irv. Last year Tyler Conklin caught 61 passes in this offense. That's 3.5 passes per game. This guy is supposed to be one of those athletic Antonio Gates / Darren Waller field stretchers at the position. I pencil him in for the same amount of targets Conklin got last year but let's say he does a little more with them as he's more athletic and scores more TDs.
61 / 732 / 9 TD
Chaka
Footballguy
My impulse is to say Tua because that have surrounded him with so many weapons, including a solid defense.
Fields doesn't have the weapons but he has the wheels. Against that defense and with that offensive line he'll likely be running a lot.
Still, I favor the QB with the weapons, o-line and most likely to win.
Tua>Fields
As much as I like Lance and his upside I roll Dak all day, everyday.
Dak>Lance
Chaka
Footballguy
It's week one, you drafted Dillon ahead of all those other guys (if it's a dynasty team, you would have drafted him ahead of the others this year) so start him.
Dillon
The other is a little trickier, you have three very similar options and you likely drafted each as much for filling out a small roster as opposed to BPA.
I can make an upside/downside argument for each but I'm not sure it would be helpful.
My inclination in week one is to not bank too much on Lance. His legs are the reason he was drafted as a QB1 in many leagues. He should be fine as a passer but I think the Niners are going to try and run more than most people expect. Shanny is a smart guy, he may try to make the SF offense West Coast Philli for awhile. Particularly in a very winnable game. So Aiyuk is last on my list in this situation.
Pollard has the look of a Kingmaker. Don't we all think he would be a first round guy based on his existing resume if Zeke were gone? But Zeke is there and it's a brutal matchup on paper. I would love to play the "game script" game but that rarely works out as expected. But if the Cowboys use him as a slot guy like they said, he's got real potential in a tough matchup. He is a very tough call here.
I have spoken of Edmunds to death in this thread. It's a RBBC but so is almost every backfield. I think Edmunds leads this committee, he has value as a runner and receiver and his HC comes from the Shanahan tree and the OC was the run game coordinator for the Chargers last season. Edmunds upside is Ekeler meets Elijah Mitchell. He also has the better matchup.
By a very slim margin (i.e. go with your gut):
Edmunds>Pollard
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I like all 3 of these options this week. Pick the one you most wanna root for.
Albert O seems like he could benefit from lack of early competition.
Cousins loves his TEs.
Everett in a likely shootout.
Good luck.
Chaka
Footballguy
I don't think I am going to be able to help much on this one. These are all middle of the pack guys, at best.
I think we have all waited long enough to see what Everett is going to be. He is what we have seen. Tons of competition for touches and an offense that doesn't necessarily favor TEs.
You could say the same thing about Smith but at least he has the upside of youth but I am not sure the offensive philosophy is going to be any better.
Situationally A.O looks almost identical to Smith. Age, offense, competition etc. They are clones. But A.O. made a bigger season 1-2 jump.
For that reason alone I'm going to say:
A.O.>Smith>>>Everett
Chaka
Footballguy
Great write up but I need to point out it should be a very different offensive philosophy this season.
Chaka
Footballguy
This one feels surprisingly easy to me, although it probably shouldn't.
Zeke is still 1a but his 1b is healthy and available. It's a tough matchup and I, and probably everyone else, don't see the path to a Cowboys victory coming through ground-and-pound. I hate trying to predict game script (this will become almost ironic when I discuss Penny) but it is incredibly rare that a Brady led offense isn't putting constant pressure on the opposing team to keep up. This just doesn't feel like a Zeke game.
So, after using game script to discount Zeke I am now, unironically, going to say it's a mistake to let opinions about game script influence your decision on Penny. Besides the fact that game script are notoriously difficult to predict, unlike Zeke and the Cowboys, the only path for success for the Seahawks lies with clock control and timely shots down field. The Cowboys can score in bunches, the Seahawks need to be methodical. Generally speaking a team doesn't pivot from the script, even during a blowout until about 8 minutes left in the fourth. Don't miss out on potential Penny because you're worried about the last half of the fourth quarter. Brady and the Bucs are a special case, Russ & the Broncos are not (yet).
Penny>Zeke
Fwiw I know Zeke had a higher ADP, and I have said multiple times in this thread to start players based upon where you drafted them, but I personally would have passed on Zeke at ADP for a different player knowing I could have a crack at a guy like Penny, who I value more than Zeke, later.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Neither of these are great options.
Penny is healthy right now - and you can’t run on TB.
Penny > Zeke this week. And bear in mind. I don’t love penny’s matchup either.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’d still go with Dak. TB is a pass funnel.
Chaka
Footballguy
I like Carr a lot this year, I think most people do, If you want to roll with him then you should.
But Dak was officially cleared and, I believe does not carry a designation into tomorrow's game. He isn't Lamar or Hurts where he relies on his feet to be effective. The Cowboys can score in bunches and, it's week one, you drafted him in front of Carr for a reason. Aren't you overthinking just a little bit?
Dak>Carr
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Need a flex 0.5 ppr
Michael Thomas vs ATL
Rhamondre Stevenson vs MIA
Kareem Hunt vs CAR
Michael Thomas vs ATL
Rhamondre Stevenson vs MIA
Kareem Hunt vs CAR
Chaka
Footballguy
Hunt seems like a pretty clear choice here IMO.
I like Thomas a lot but besides his two season hiatus we have to remember the Saints have more competition for targets than at any point of Thomas's career, and Jameis is a low accuracy QB (61% on his career), the Saints only let him attempt 25 passes/game last season (low volume) and they lost, perhaps, the best offensive mind in the NFL.
Rhamondre is a hard no for me for reasons I have discussed at least six times in this thread. So he'll probably rush for 150 & 3 with 8 catches to boot.
Hunt performs at near RB1 levels when he and Chubb are both healthy. It's a neutral matchup, at worst, and I think we all see the Browns best path to success is through their backfield. And they have a very good o-line to boot.
Hunt>Thomas/Rhamond
Chaka
Footballguy
AJ all day everyday. I have discussed this one a few times in here.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Still Nico.
Chaka
Footballguy
I honestly cannot say but if I needed an upside only blind dart throw I'd probably go with the guy who, as much as anyone could be Aaron Rodgers 's top target in what may be a high scoring game.
Doubs
Total guess
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Yup. I recommend Nico in his OP (IIRC) but he's asking for big upside now and very few players have the upside of being Aaron Rodgers favorite target. Nico doesn't.
But I do think 0 targets is unlikely considering Watkins and Watson are the only other receivers with Lazard doubtful.
tricky1066
Footballguy
Having changed my roster and bench no less than 15 times in the past 24 hours.... I'm now drinking the kool-aid of Bloom and the Minnesota beat writers whom are looking at K.J. Osbourn to thrive under O'Connell in his Junior year.... picked him up off waivers for gimpy Gage and currently starting both Viking wrs JJ and KJ against the Packers. Please talk me off this ledge........
Chaka
Footballguy
I like KJ Osborn this season. He may surpass Thielen at some point. I guess he's as much of a dart throw as anyone, including Gage.
ETA: but if Godwin is out I roll Gage>Osborn
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tricky1066
Footballguy
Not in my 16 man homey league with individual IDP and only 7 bench spots..... brutal
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I like KJO, so I shall not talk you off the ledge.
That said, Gage was cleared and if Godwin is out he could have a great game as Brady’s WR2, as opposed to KJO who’s the 4th option behind JJ, Theilen, & Cook.
But go with your gut.
tricky1066
Footballguy
I am not sure where you got the "cleared" but I certainly want that nugget link of info for the future. I now live in Europe and can't juggle starting line-ups at 4am so I had to eliminate the unknown with who/what is starting late Sunday night. I greatly value all of your input(s) so THANKS again
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
My bad - they’re both listed as questionable.
I thought I’d read that Gage was cleared, but seems he’s still TBD. But he did practice 3 straight days whole Godwin did not.
Sorry I can’t be more help. Good luck.
Chaka
Footballguy
I'm not sure he was cleared but I did see that he is "on track to play". But if Godwin is out I do like him more than KJ.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That must be what I saw - I was under the impression he’s a go.
That said, KJO could get a couple deep targets, ala the MIN version of Van Jefferson - last year the Rams took several shots downfield to VJ, who wasn’t good enough to capitalize on them.
I roster KJO in dynasty, and I’m optimistic about the dude.
He’s the safest play, since we don’t know if Gage is playing for certain.
tricky1066
Footballguy
Thanks all.. priceless information.... as you all know we all can talk ourselves into the ****... just trying on some sanity checks
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
At this point they’re all dart throws. Go with the dude you want to root for.
I tend to not look at “ceiling plays” so much as reliability plays. Who’s gonna most likely get me points.
Good luck!
Chaka
Footballguy
I agree KJ is a safer play considering the Bucs play at night.
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