The_Fonz
Footballguy
All of these are available on my WW - this is my firstyear of not staying married to a top 5 defense all year. I really like DAL for weeks 15-16 over anyone else.
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
SEA looking nice with Alex smith throwing picks again.
Jagerbomber
Footballguy
I'm going with Atlanta and St Louis the next three weeks
Week 14 - ATL @ CAR
Week 15 - ATL @ SEA
Week 16 - STL @ SF
Week 15 looks iffiest and might gamble by dropping St Louis and picking up Cleveland...hopefully St Louis will still be around for the final week.
Week 14 - ATL @ CAR
Week 15 - ATL @ SEA
Week 16 - STL @ SF
Week 15 looks iffiest and might gamble by dropping St Louis and picking up Cleveland...hopefully St Louis will still be around for the final week.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Take this idea a step further and rank week 15 defensesKC @ STL BUF @ MIA CLE @ CIN JAC @ IND HOU @ TENWAS @ DALPHI @ NYG ARI @ CARDET @ TBNO @ BAL ATL @ SEA NYJ @ PIT DEN @ OAKCHI @ MINGB @ NEhowo5 said:
Klimtology
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I hate to use a cliche but I will: is ATL @ SEA a trap game?Jagerbomber said:
This may be a Saints fan's wishful thinking but I wonder if travelling to the west coast in cold weather vs a team that absolutely must win to stay in the playoff race, with a decent QB and opportunistic defense and ST doesn't present a real chance for a Seattle win here or a near-win.
That being said I have the ATL DST on my bench and I have not cut them yet.
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ThePittbully
Footballguy
Can we get a poll set up
gethugefast1
Footballguy
Grabbed:
Patriots Week 14
Cowboys Week 15 & 16
Patriots Week 14
Cowboys Week 15 & 16
Jagerbomber
Footballguy
That was my thinking as well and the reason why I was considering picking up Cleveland and stash them for that week.
CaptainHook
Footballguy
im in a defense only league but i think both teams playing arizona are no brainers for the two playoff weeks. (CAR then DAL)
Instinctive
Footballguy
I'm slightly worried about CLE week 15. Thinking about grabbing CAR over them because Cincy can put up some points...
CAR won't be able to turn the ball over to Zona if they run all over them all game.
CAR won't be able to turn the ball over to Zona if they run all over them all game.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Wheat and chaff:
Wheat:
1. WAS @ DAL - The Boys have looked great; the Skins not.
2. ARI @ CAR - Bad opposing QB meets bad defense. Grab both? Grab either?
3. ARI @ CAR - Bad opposing QB meets bad defense. Grab both? Grab either?
4. ATL @ SEA - ATL looking to seal the division.
5. ATL@ SEA - Possible trap game?
6. CLE @ CIN - Not real confident here.
7. DET @ TB - Yaknow, Detroit can score.
Chaff:
KC @ STL
BUF @ MIA
JAC @ IND
HOU @ TEN
PHI @ NYG
NO @ BAL
NYJ @ PIT
DEN @ OAK
CHI @ MIN
GB @ NE
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Clutchfanatic
Footballguy
What do you guys think of Miami at home against Buff (15) and Det(16) ??
Instinctive
Footballguy
I was thinking of Buffalo vs Miami, as the Dolphins have really sucked lately
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This kind of reminds me of the ARI/CAR game.MIA has been horrible and is trotting out bad QB play and it's defense has performed badly, but in Miami's case they are playing two offenses in the Bill and Lions who can actually score.Clutchfanatic said:
d3cyph3r
Footballguy
In my league with basic yahoo DST scoring:
Carolina gives up a median of 14.2 points, followed by Arizona (13) and Cleveland (12.6).
If you rank teams by their 4 week average for who gives up the most points:
1. Cin 14.8
2. Was
3. Ind
4. Car
5. Ten
6. Ari 11.8
If you rank teams by their 3 week average:
1.Ind 15.33
2. Was
3. Car
4. Mia
5. Cin
6. Ten
7. Jac
8. Ari 12
Carolina gives up a median of 14.2 points, followed by Arizona (13) and Cleveland (12.6).
If you rank teams by their 4 week average for who gives up the most points:
1. Cin 14.8
2. Was
3. Ind
4. Car
5. Ten
6. Ari 11.8
If you rank teams by their 3 week average:
1.Ind 15.33
2. Was
3. Car
4. Mia
5. Cin
6. Ten
7. Jac
8. Ari 12
d3cyph3r
Footballguy
I would feel like I was gambling too much to roll with a defense playing either Ind, Cin, Jac. I think the best teams to play against is Was, Car, Ten and Ari.
That is why I think Dallas for weeks 15 & 16 is the best choice if you only have enough spots on your bench for 1 defense.
I have Chicago, but I am worried about rolling with them against Minnesota and the Jets
That is why I think Dallas for weeks 15 & 16 is the best choice if you only have enough spots on your bench for 1 defense.
I have Chicago, but I am worried about rolling with them against Minnesota and the Jets
footballnerd
Footballguy
Dammit you guys sold me on DAL (well I was looking at them and then read this thread)
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Re: the Carolina DST, does it matter if Anderson starts?
Any chance that happens?
Any thoughts on the ARI DST vs the CAR DST? The Skelton/Bartel idea seems like a disaster in waiting. But are they playing Week 15? Seems to me if Anderson plays then ARI is the better DST play. If Skelton/Bartel plays, then CAR is the better DST.
>>>A week ago, Richard Bartel was hunting wild hogs in Texas and John Skelton was rooting around for a few snaps at Cardinals practice. On Sunday, one of them could be starting his first NFL game. Or, Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt could continue to play Derek Anderson, provided Anderson is cleared to return after suffering a concussion last week.<<<
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/...b-decision.html
Any chance that happens?
Any thoughts on the ARI DST vs the CAR DST? The Skelton/Bartel idea seems like a disaster in waiting. But are they playing Week 15? Seems to me if Anderson plays then ARI is the better DST play. If Skelton/Bartel plays, then CAR is the better DST.
>>>A week ago, Richard Bartel was hunting wild hogs in Texas and John Skelton was rooting around for a few snaps at Cardinals practice. On Sunday, one of them could be starting his first NFL game. Or, Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt could continue to play Derek Anderson, provided Anderson is cleared to return after suffering a concussion last week.<<<
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/...b-decision.html
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Our playoffs are 15/16, I've got a spot locked up. Carolina and Dallas already rostered for weeks 15/16 respectively. Sticking to my plan of following Arizona's offense around all year. Has worked very well so far
Return of the Sheep
Footballguy
A case for the jets against the steelers. I had the same thought and picked up car. for my week 15 matchup, but I think I just jumped back on the train. Here is my reasoning...1. Steelers have been struggling offensively over the last few games.2. The bungles def scored 12 points on them in my league this week. Not huge, but decent and they are the bungles.3. The steelers o-line is struggling and allowing ben to be hit and sacked. I could see 3-6 sacks and a possible fumble. 4. The jets run D will stop mendy leading ben to throw a ton towards revis and ac. I can see a pic or 2. 5. Hines Field in Dec. with possible lake effect snow leads to low scoring games.6. The jets need a win or they may miss the playoffs so they will be playing tough. 7. Santonio may give the def some tips on how ben thinks and acts in certain situations. I believe this will be a low scoring defensive battle. I think the jets def can be a top 5 option in week 15. A floor of 8 with a ceiling of 20+ points.
Darryl Talley
Footballguy
Anyone still high on DSTs versus AZ?
SieteCinco
Footballguy
We had a similar discussion in another thread earlier this week. Here were my thoughts on week 15/16:
I'm looking at rolling with the same options as you. I'm looking at it like:
Week 15:
Both Carolina and Arizona make for good starts on paper playing against each other, but which ones the best? Four weeks ago Arizona looked like they were the ticket to a Fantasy Championship, playing Carolina week 15 and a struggling Dallas team week 16. Things have now changed, and although the Carolina matchup still looks ok, it's not looking as great and I'd stay away from Dallas now. The Panthers run game is showing signs of life and this year no team has been worse at stopping the run than Arizona. Carolina will likely look to take advantage of that and limit the amount of throws Clausen makes which takes away from a fantasy defenses value. Arizona has also scored a big chunk of their points off touchdowns, which you can't count on every week.
Carolina's defense is now looking like they're the way to go week 15. They have actually quietly been ok this year, scoring around the same amount of points as NYG/CLE/TB/SD, which comes as a big surprise. They're one of the ten worst defenses against the run, which shouldn't be much of a problem when they only have to stop Hightower and Wells, but are one of the four best against the pass and will likely be facing Skelton or Anderson. Either way, happy days for the Panthers at home against the Cardinals.
-Carolina vs ARI
-Arizona @ CAR
-Dallas vs WAS
-Minnesota vs CHI
-San Diego vs SF (Thursday night)
Week 16:
A revived Dallas team who has been making plays on both sides of the ball will be facing Arizona. Not much to explain there now, and you're obviously happy if you own the Steelers defense.
-Pittsburgh vs CAR
-Dallas @ ARI
-Philadelphia vs MIN
-Tampa Bay vs SEA
I'm looking at rolling with the same options as you. I'm looking at it like:
Week 15:
Both Carolina and Arizona make for good starts on paper playing against each other, but which ones the best? Four weeks ago Arizona looked like they were the ticket to a Fantasy Championship, playing Carolina week 15 and a struggling Dallas team week 16. Things have now changed, and although the Carolina matchup still looks ok, it's not looking as great and I'd stay away from Dallas now. The Panthers run game is showing signs of life and this year no team has been worse at stopping the run than Arizona. Carolina will likely look to take advantage of that and limit the amount of throws Clausen makes which takes away from a fantasy defenses value. Arizona has also scored a big chunk of their points off touchdowns, which you can't count on every week.
Carolina's defense is now looking like they're the way to go week 15. They have actually quietly been ok this year, scoring around the same amount of points as NYG/CLE/TB/SD, which comes as a big surprise. They're one of the ten worst defenses against the run, which shouldn't be much of a problem when they only have to stop Hightower and Wells, but are one of the four best against the pass and will likely be facing Skelton or Anderson. Either way, happy days for the Panthers at home against the Cardinals.
-Carolina vs ARI
-Arizona @ CAR
-Dallas vs WAS
-Minnesota vs CHI
-San Diego vs SF (Thursday night)
Week 16:
A revived Dallas team who has been making plays on both sides of the ball will be facing Arizona. Not much to explain there now, and you're obviously happy if you own the Steelers defense.
-Pittsburgh vs CAR
-Dallas @ ARI
-Philadelphia vs MIN
-Tampa Bay vs SEA
Trizzler
Footballguy
The safest bet for next week at this point is clearly Tampa at home against the Lions.
1. When the Lions have been away from home, the opposing defenses they faced averaged 10.3 points.
2. Stanton is an awful passer, and even without Talib, the Bucs will match up well against him.
3. Weak run defense shouldn't be a problem when the most reliable RB the Lions have right now is Maurice Morris.
4. TB knows they must win out to make the playoffs. Veteran leadership in Rhonde Barber should motivate this team to step up and perform well.
I can definitely see Carolina getting decent points at home against the Cards, however I would rather it be against Skelton than Anderson. I don't know about Dallas against the Redskins after watching tonight's game. Torain may shred that run D apart. However, they kept their aggressiveness going tonight with the two picks of Vick, and they do seem like the best option for championship week against Arizona.
1. When the Lions have been away from home, the opposing defenses they faced averaged 10.3 points.
2. Stanton is an awful passer, and even without Talib, the Bucs will match up well against him.
3. Weak run defense shouldn't be a problem when the most reliable RB the Lions have right now is Maurice Morris.
4. TB knows they must win out to make the playoffs. Veteran leadership in Rhonde Barber should motivate this team to step up and perform well.
I can definitely see Carolina getting decent points at home against the Cards, however I would rather it be against Skelton than Anderson. I don't know about Dallas against the Redskins after watching tonight's game. Torain may shred that run D apart. However, they kept their aggressiveness going tonight with the two picks of Vick, and they do seem like the best option for championship week against Arizona.
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Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Any one looking at the Vikings who will face the Bears probably outside in the cold TCF bank stadium?
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2010/12/12/187...cf-bank-stadium
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2010/12/12/187...cf-bank-stadium
Futz
Footballguy
Uhhh yeah, it's Arizona. The problem is that Denver was Denver.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
I'm thinking about dropping Tampa to pick up the Cardinals.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I was thinking of dropping TB for CAR but AZ looked decent yesterday. I know it was the Denver D but I would rather have the Bucs against a proven to be awful Stanton. Stanton targeted CJohnson 13 times yesterday and only connected 1 time. That is awful.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
That's actually not a bad idea. I'm sure it will be interesting to see how it turns out with some of the top teams that are being discussed. I am also curious what some of the FBG experts think. Most of us don't have until tuesday or wednesday to pick up the top D on the WW.Any chance anyone who knows what they're doing could possibly set that up?
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Anyone worried the Cowboys might mail it in? Playing Indy and PHI is kinda their Super Bowl in a lost year. Playing WAS and ARI - nothing really to prove at this point.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I am starting Carolina for week 15,. I have never in all my FF years have started such a crappy team for the playoffs. Anyone else nervous about this? I have the Cowboys as a backup against WAS.
I think i am going atl @ sea over carolina.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I'm sticking with the Cowboys.Playing Vick is hardly a normal game, I consider it an outlier and actually the Cowboys hardly mailed it in vs Philly, they were more than competitive.I have ARI as the backup, might start them vs CAR, I was surprised how under control Skelton was, but there is no way to tell which team will do well in Carolina. Both defenses could do well, maybe neither, maybe either. Thing is I don't want either available to my opponent this weekend should one go off.
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PennState-JD
Footballguy
what about Pats if Flynn gets the nod?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Skelton seemed to manage pretty well vs DEN (yeah, even it was Denver he did ok) and the AZ defense can actually show up and be decent on occasion.If Skelton can do that again then ARI might be the DST to have over the Panthers.But really there is no sure way to tell, both are very shakey starts.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Flynn's been ok in the past but that was an awful performance vs the Lions. The Pats at home seem pretty good to me.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Not to mention that the Bucs best CB Talib is out for the season. This defense got shredded by Torrain and if it weren't for foolish coaching on Shanahan's part, they should have punished the Bucs and played downhill on them. I doubt that the Lions win in Tampa, but I don't think the Bucs are a formidable defense by any account. This D is hurting all over.
Good question. I was planning to play them the next couple weeks, but now I'm rethinking. Should I drop them for the Cowboys?
Nigel
Footballguy
I've got the Pats & Cowboys D, leaning Pats. Pats don't force fumbles, but they do get a lot of picks and you know GB will be throwing a ton.
gethugefast1
Footballguy
Have Dallas & New England...
Tampa Bay is on waivers...
I will try to grab TB only to block other remaining opponents from grabbing them (just in case they can D-up even with the injury losses)...BUT,
IF, Green Bay does not play Rodgers...NE will be a very solid play...
I rank my choices (if it helps anyone else):
Pats (w/ no Rodgers)
Boys
Bucs
Tampa Bay is on waivers...
I will try to grab TB only to block other remaining opponents from grabbing them (just in case they can D-up even with the injury losses)...BUT,
IF, Green Bay does not play Rodgers...NE will be a very solid play...
I rank my choices (if it helps anyone else):
Pats (w/ no Rodgers)
Boys
Bucs
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eddiezz74
Footballguy
Tampa Bay is tempting, but even against the struggling Redskins they only had 6 fantasy points...they don't seem to score too many fantasy points.
What about the Browns? They seem to get some points pretty consistently, with huge games every now and then. Playing against a Bengals team that is pretty much dead but still showed some life against the Steelers. Do you think that will be a 28-27 no defense game, or a 10-6 defensive struggle?
What about the Browns? They seem to get some points pretty consistently, with huge games every now and then. Playing against a Bengals team that is pretty much dead but still showed some life against the Steelers. Do you think that will be a 28-27 no defense game, or a 10-6 defensive struggle?
RUSF18
Footballguy
Yeah had talked about this in one of the prior threads...I first got concerned when Talib went out, and seeing a couple more starters go down is even more concerning. I was able to back them up with Dallas, thinking I might end up using them W16 vs ARI but would be hesitant to use them this week. Like I said, still leaning towards TB as I don't see them having a bad enough game where they'll be a detriment, but I no longer see them as a team that could help you win a playoff matchup.
