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Week 17 2024 who should I start thread **OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL** CHAMPIONSHIP EDITION! (1 Viewer)

Lamb out I’m in dire need of a WR.

Brandon Cooks or Ryan Flournoy? Flournoy they like and maybe they see what they have with him over the veteran Cooks?

Bunch of Washington receivers not named Terry are available.

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Lamb out I’m in dire need of a WR.

Brandon Cooks or Ryan Flournoy? Flournoy they like and maybe they see what they have with him over the veteran Cooks?

Bunch of Washington receivers not named Terry are available.

:help:
Zaccheaus maybe?

He’s available. Might grab him or Vele.

Sliiiim pickins
Sorry, I have no opinion on these options.
 
PPR:

CeeDee @ PHI (#13 vs WRs)
McLaurin v ATL (#30 vs WRs)
Sutton @ CIN (#11 vs WRs)

Benching CeeDee doesn't feel crazy to me but it also feels completely insane.
Probably benching Sutton here. Rush has been playing better. Mc Lauren is a must start.
So you would start McLaurin over CeeDee too? I think I am going to this week. I agree he looks like a must start at this point.
Note McLaurin is Q with an ankle - DNP on Wed, and LP on Thursday.

CeeDee Lamb has been ruled out for this week.
Q designation removed according to Sleeper.
 
Full PPR. Start SIX total (1-3 RB, and 3-5 WR).
*Questionable

Charbonnet SEA @ CHI - Started
Hunt KC @ PIT - Bench
* Conner ARI @ LAR... Sat Evening
Bij Robinson ATL @ WAS
... Sun Evening
Bri Robinson WAS vs ATL... Sun Evening

* Adams NYJ @ BUF... Sun AM
* A Brown PHI vs DAL... Sun AM
* Higgins CIN vs DEN... Sat Afternoon
Reed GB @ MIN... Sun Afternoon
Shakir BUF vs NYJ... Sun AM
D Smith PHI vs DAL... Sun AM

So, I've currently got the guys in bold slotted into my lineup. Charbs and Hunt are a done deal... One in, one out. Pulled Devonte Smith out for Charbs last night when I saw that most of my currently lineup is questionable. Because here's the thing this time of year.... With so many games starting at different times (and on different days), you really can't afford to leave guaranteed points on the bench when other guys may or may not play. So, my strategy is to play the early guys (Conner if active, and then Higgins) and pivot from there as needed. I don't see a huge difference in projections between Conner/Higgins versus Smith/Shakir/BriRob, so it feels like a "better safe than sorry" scenario. And, frankly, I just don't trust Reed, as much as I like him as a player. Just not enough consistent touches.

My "pivots" would be (somewhat in this order)... Bri Robinson, Shakir, D Smith, Reed.

Anything look glaringly wrong with that approach? Anybody I have in bold that you would absolutely bench, or anybody not in bold that is a "must start?"
The only question I have would be Brian Robinson v James Conner. Conner was a non factor last week IMO because the game script was more up-tempo. I think, in a game the Commanders should win*. In that kind of game I like Brian Robinson quite a bit.

I'm not saying to definitely start Brian Robinson over Conner but, if there is any question about Conner's health or usage, I think the Cardinals would be smart to shut him down, ala CeeDee, in a lost season. Especially considering they paid him already. But I don't know if they're smart.

*For transparency I view this as a heavy trap game for the Commanders. Maybe the biggest trap of the week.
 
Been all over on this. PPR league

Kupp at Arizona on Saturday night
McMillan against Carolina

Bonus question. If Dobbins is activated where does he fit in (Chargers at NE on Saturday)
It's bizarre that this is a legitimate question. But it definitely is.
It is bizarre. I keep landing on starting McMillan and then that little voice in my head says, "Are you seriously going to start McMillan over Cooper Kupp?"

And now that JK Dobbins is activated I've got another option for my flex. I like him over McMillan and Kupp. And starting Dobbins over Kupp doesn't seem so bizarre. I think Dobbins if given his normal workload has a very good chance to score a TD (or two). Or is that completely crazy?
 
Any advice appreciated here.

DST:
Cowboys, Packers, or Buccaneers

WR:
Pick 2. London; Jayden Reed; Josh Downs; Boutte

RB:
Pick 1. Spears; Abdullah; Pollard
Buccaneers 💯 for defense. They're not good but this is all about matchup. Even with Kenny Pickett possibly, not definitely, playing the Bucs matchup is better.

I probably lean London at WR because I think he's the most talented, will see the most guaranteed usage and I view this as a trap game for the Commanders. That last one is 100% gut call.

Your last question, frankly is impossible. Ultimately I put all their names in a dart board, close my eyes and wherever the dart lands, that's who I choose. Tentatively I think that means Pollard. That's with zero confidence.
 
PPR flex (need two):

Cook vs Jets
McLaurin vs Falcons
Spears (if Pollard sits) @ Jags

If Pollard plays, it’s moot, but if it’s Spears’ backfield, I may be leaning him over Terry. Maybe I’m overthinking it, but would rather have guaranteed touches from an RB that should also catch some passes. Also may be raining in D.C. Sunday night in a run game heavy script.
I'm sorry, but there is no world where I bench Cook & McLaurin for Spears.

That's getting too cute by half ALL, IMO.
 
Assuming J. Hurts is out, which fill in?

* B. Young @ TB -- Young has been on a roll. TB pass D pretty terrible while run D tough so this could be on Bryce. Played well in the last matchup against TB and is running the ball more.

or

* M. Stafford vs AZ -- Good matchup. Would think there's a solid floor here, but McVay seems more content running the ball lately vs. airing it out. Hard to sit with Puka and Kupp.

Which?

Thanks
As always with your questions, I definitely get it. And, as always with my answers I think you know where I'll land.

Stafford

Same floor, massively different ceilings IMO.

Doesn't make it the right choice. It's just where I land philosophically.
Interesting. Not what I expected!

I just wonder if the LAR will really have to throw much in this one. AZ could be checked out at this point.

Have a feeling that Bryce will have to air it out to keep up with TB.

It's a tough one.

Thanks
Revised. I... atted? you
 
Been all over on this. PPR league

Kupp at Arizona on Saturday night
McMillan against Carolina

Bonus question. If Dobbins is activated where does he fit in (Chargers at NE on Saturday)
It's bizarre that this is a legitimate question. But it definitely is.
It is bizarre. I keep landing on starting McMillan and then that little voice in my head says, "Are you seriously going to start McMillan over Cooper Kupp?"

And now that JK Dobbins is activated I've got another option for my flex. I like him over McMillan and Kupp. And starting Dobbins over Kupp doesn't seem so bizarre. I think Dobbins if given his normal workload has a very good chance to score a TD (or two). Or is that completely crazy?
Not bizarre given that JK will be getting > 80% of the carries IMO, and if Harbaugh is as great a "players coach" as we've been told to believe, I would think he's aiming to get JK his incentives and obvs showcase that an injury won't keep him out idefinately. I'm starting him over Tyreek without blinking.
 
No PPR. No TE required. Start two of these three WR/TE's....

Jonnu Smith MIA @ CLE
McBride ARI @ LAR
Deebo SF vs DET

Last week, Deebo was heavily involved in the offense and outscored McBride and Jonnu (combined) 18-8. The problem is that he wasn't used like that most of the year (and I'm sure health played a part in that). So, of course, Deebo was on my bench last week, and I'm now playing for 3rd place.

McBride is a target/PPR monster, but the lack of TD's really limits his upside in this format. Still, he's due for a TD, right? How long can we say that? :lol:

Jonnu has pretty solid the last half of the season, and has actually outscored McBride 116-102 in this format (due to the 6-0 advantage in TD's).
I think monitoring the weather in Cleveland is a big deal for you. Rain doesn't worry me a ton but, the Cleveland offense has to be viewed as anemic at this point so, even though the Dolphins have the most to play for, among your options, I am concerned at the possibility they will be able to clock control in this one.

Deebo, IMO you have to go with because of last week and the matchup. And he still has a ton of talent.

I love McBride but you're right to be concerned at this point. The Cardinals season is over and he has been allergic to the end zone all year. But, NFL players are wired to play hard, as are coaching staffs. considering what Jonnu may be dealing with...I probably still go with McBride.
 
PPR league. Need 3 of the following. Usually wouldn't have much question on these, but a couple usual starters have question marks:

* J. Conner @LAR -- Apparently is expected to play. But how much? Not sure if T. Benson is going to be active.

* T. Tracy vs INDY -- Expected to play. Has been questionable. Getting check downs from Lock. Ceiling clearly limited.

* T. Spears @Jax -- He's been on fire while Pollard has been banged up. Pollard with three DNPs this week, same as last, so he'll probably play. Good matchup.

* C. Kupp vs AZ -- Two duds in a row. LAR running the ball. Seems like a far 2nd fiddle to Puka. Hardly seems like he's part of the game plan.

* T. Hill @CLE -- Has salvaged his day with a TD here and there. Waddle expected back. Seems like the Achane show. Weather looks lousy in CLE with rain and wind.

Which 3?

Thanks
Dude. Of all the guys who come in here, I sincerely believe you have the most consistently difficult options. I think that's a compliment...

I think considering your options I go with Kupp for sure because the Rams have the .ost to play for.

That means I think Tyreek is the next guy I go with, but you have to monitor the weather in Cleveland. Rain doesn't concern me as much as cold. I worry the Dolphins may be able to control the game and could end up run heavy but, putting too much into predicting game script is a fool's errand. He's also theost talented player among your options.

After that...for me it comes down to Conner and Tracy. Conner should be the smash start but IMO, if the Cardinals were smart they'd shut him down RoS. They just paid him, why risk a catastrophic injury for nothing?

Because of that I think I go with Tracy and cross my fingers.

Tyjae is an option IMO, only if Pollard is out. I won't rely on low volume two TD games.
 
Need a QB with Hurts out. Mason Rudolph at Jacksonville or Michael Penix at Washington?

PPR league need a TE. Ferguson at Philadelphia or Okonkwo at Jacksonville?

FBG has Rudolph and Ferguson ranked slightly higher but my gut says Penix and Okonkwo.
 
PPR TE Pemium

Start 2
Breece Hall, Malik Nabers, Marvin Harrison, Deebo Samuel, Dalton Kincaid

Which 2 QB

Allen, Goff and Burrows
Including matchups in your question is appreciated. You have eight players in question, please make it as easy as possible on anyone who might be inclined to answer.

Your QBs are literally a pick 'em. So go with the guys who have scored the most and the most consistently all year. My guess is that means Allen & Burrow. I can definitely see the argument for Goff over either but I can also see the argument for either over Goff.

Your other question is much tougher. Personally I go with Deebo for sure. The matchup is too good and the Niners have been working hard to unlock him. He has so much potential, IMO you can't leave him on your bench for your other options.

For much the same reason I also stick with Breece. The Bills D has been a sieve lately. He also has a better supporting cast around him.

Maybe Nabers but that team seems to have checked out more than the Jets and MHJ has just been an afterthought in the Cardinals offense. Kincaid could out score them all I guess but his usage is too sporadic for my taste.
 
Assuming Conner plays tomorrow, which TWO do you guys start of these 3? Full PPR.

Deebo v DET
Nabers v IND
Conner @ LAR

Purdy is my QB. Made the “mistake” of starting Charbs last night - in a bit of a hole.

Thanks dudes
Deebo & Conner and I don't think much about it. Nabers is dinged up, has terrible QB play and limited TD upside. Obviously he has massive potential but 7-67-0 seems a more likely outcome.

I can see swapping Nabers for Conner just because I think the Cardinals should shut him down. But, I suspect Gannon feels he is coaching for his career so they will probably use him as normal.
 
Projected 10 point underdog (thanks DJ Moore and JSN). 1 PPR

Start 1 between:

Jameson Williams at SF
Tee Higgins vs Denver

Have usually went with Higgins but Jameson playing in good weather and healthy. Higgins isn’t playing for anything, nicked up ankle in rainy conditions..makes me lean to Williams.

Could really need a 25 point week from 1 of these guys..
 
Stafford for the Championship or go with one of the following
Maye
G Smith
Young
Penix
Rush
If I saw this yesterday I might have said Geno. Lucky you.

I canake an argument for Bryce. He's surging, the Bucs defense is weak and their offense can put pressure on opponents.

Earlier I told @kyoun1e that I lean Stafford but, I am starting to reconsider. I think, ultimately I am constrained by history more than the present. Bryce Young was the #1 pick for a reason. He may not be much bigger than Taylor Swift but, if the game has suddenly slowed down for him... he could be a version of Drew Brees. And the Bucs are a massive pass funnel defense to boot.

Yeah, I might go with Young at this point.
I wish we could ask Stafford if he is going to play better this week...lol
 
Need a QB with Hurts out. Mason Rudolph at Jacksonville or Michael Penix at Washington?

PPR league need a TE. Ferguson at Philadelphia or Okonkwo at Jacksonville?

FBG has Rudolph and Ferguson ranked slightly higher but my gut says Penix and Okonkwo.
Nothing but gut calls for me but, I view this as a trap game for Washington so I lean Penix.

And, with CeeDee out, in a full PPR I'm going with Ferguson. YMMV
 
Standard need 1:
MCconkey vs NE
London vs Wash
Kupp vs Ariz
In standard... probably comes down to London v Kupp and, this week I'm personally playing the hunch that the Commanders are going to be drained this week after their big win against the eagles.

London for me.
 
Projected 10 point underdog (thanks DJ Moore and JSN). 1 PPR

Start 1 between:

Jameson Williams at SF
Tee Higgins vs Denver

Have usually went with Higgins but Jameson playing in good weather and healthy. Higgins isn’t playing for anything, nicked up ankle in rainy conditions..makes me lean to Williams.

Could really need a 25 point week from 1 of these guys..
I thought Cincinnati still has shot at the playoffs. No?
 
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Projected 10 point underdog (thanks DJ Moore and JSN). 1 PPR

Start 1 between:

Jameson Williams at SF
Tee Higgins vs Denver

Have usually went with Higgins but Jameson playing in good weather and healthy. Higgins isn’t playing for anything, nicked up ankle in rainy conditions..makes me lean to Williams.

Could really need a 25 point week from 1 of these guys..
I thought Cincinnati still has **** at the playoffs. No?
Mathematically, yes they do
 
Pick a wr

Devonta smith vs dallas
Jameson williams @SF
Theilen @ tb
Pick a format: PPR or Non-PPR.

Also depends on the status of Hurts.
Sry ppr
In PPR I lean Thielen.

Very tempting to go with Jameson. Bad defense, #1 scoring offense, no Montgomery to drain clock... maybe this is real. Personally I enjoy rooting for him and if it were my team I would probably say #### it and roll him out.

But Thielen is probably the "right" call.

Even if Hurts plays I'm wondering if he will need to throw much against the Cowboys without CeeDee.
 
Standard scoring no ppr. Thanks to awful performances so far this week, I’m a 30pt underdog. I have 6 players left he has 8. I have Burrow, he has Jamar. So their TD production offsets (6pt TD pass) with him advantage in yards points. Obviously, I need to catch up. Should I start Bryce Young against TB and hope Denver D has a good game vs Cincy? I know Burrow is on fire. Hopefully Certain and crew can shut down Jamar and Bryce can light up Tb again. He did already this year. Or just keep burrow in and hope he throws to Higgins, Gesicki, and Iocivas? Am I nuts? Lol
 
Standard scoring no ppr. Thanks to awful performances so far this week, I’m a 30pt underdog. I have 6 players left he has 8. I have Burrow, he has Jamar. So their TD production offsets (6pt TD pass) with him advantage in yards points. Obviously, I need to catch up. Should I start Bryce Young against TB and hope Denver D has a good game vs Cincy? I know Burrow is on fire. Hopefully Certain and crew can shut down Jamar and Bryce can light up Tb again. He did already this year. Or just keep burrow in and hope he throws to Higgins, Gesicki, and Iocivas? Am I nuts? Lol
No, start Burrow. He has other weapons to throw to.
 
Standard scoring no ppr. Thanks to awful performances so far this week, I’m a 30pt underdog. I have 6 players left he has 8. I have Burrow, he has Jamar. So their TD production offsets (6pt TD pass) with him advantage in yards points. Obviously, I need to catch up. Should I start Bryce Young against TB and hope Denver D has a good game vs Cincy? I know Burrow is on fire. Hopefully Certain and crew can shut down Jamar and Bryce can light up Tb again. He did already this year. Or just keep burrow in and hope he throws to Higgins, Gesicki, and Iocivas? Am I nuts? Lol
No, start Burrow. He has other weapons to throw to.
Thank you.
 
PPR league. Still torn on some major flex decisions (per above post). Want to isolate my WR choices. As you know, I've got to make this as interesting as possible for you.

* C. Kupp vs AZ -- Plays tonight. Indoors. AZ just let B. Young pass all over them, but curious if McVay is even interested. Been very run heavy lately and Stafford is just not throwing a ton. Kupp a clear #2 to Puka. Apparently, Kupp will draw CB G. Williams in the slot and he's one of the best in slot coverage.

or

* T. Hill @CLE -- Could see D. Ward. Waddle back. This team is Achane or bust lately. Weather looks iffy. K. Roth indicating "yellow/orange" with rain likely and 15 mph winds with gusts to 30.

If you have to bench one, who are you sitting?

Thanks
 
PPR league. Still torn on some major flex decisions (per above post). Want to isolate my WR choices. As you know, I've got to make this as interesting as possible for you.

* C. Kupp vs AZ -- Plays tonight. Indoors. AZ just let B. Young pass all over them, but curious if McVay is even interested. Been very run heavy lately and Stafford is just not throwing a ton. Kupp a clear #2 to Puka.

or

* T. Hill @CLE -- Could see D. Ward. Waddle back. This team is Achane or bust lately. Weather looks iffy. K. Roth indicating "yellow/orange" with rain likely and 15 mph winds with gusts to 30.

If you have to bench one, who are you sitting?

Thanks

Kupp. I think miami rolls clv
 
1/2 point per reception. I’m down 18.8, he’s used his TE and a WR, I’ve used my K. I need one of the following:
James Connor - coming off leaving last weeks game with an injury but word is he will play.
JK Dobbins - coming off a 4 week injury but with the Gus bus parked likely to see a decent work load.
Cortland Sutton - probably least upside but not coming off an injury.

Also need to pick between Herbert and Purdy at QB.

Rest of my team RB - Gibbs and Jacob’s, WR - Jefferson and McLaurin, TE Ferguson, D - Miami
 
1/2 point per reception. I’m down 18.8, he’s used his TE and a WR, I’ve used my K. I need one of the following:
James Connor - coming off leaving last weeks game with an injury but word is he will play.
JK Dobbins - coming off a 4 week injury but with the Gus bus parked likely to see a decent work load.
Cortland Sutton - probably least upside but not coming off an injury.

Also need to pick between Herbert and Purdy at QB.

Rest of my team RB - Gibbs and Jacob’s, WR - Jefferson and McLaurin, TE Ferguson, D - Miami
Sutton

Herbert
 
Ugh stupid NFL and spreading out the games.

Charbonnet screwed me and now the Hubbard news. I'll need an RB. I have R Stevenson. Can pick up Dobbins. One of the 49er backs?
 
Standard scoring no ppr. Thanks to awful performances so far this week, I’m a 30pt underdog. I have 6 players left he has 8. I have Burrow, he has Jamar. So their TD production offsets (6pt TD pass) with him advantage in yards points. Obviously, I need to catch up. Should I start Bryce Young against TB and hope Denver D has a good game vs Cincy? I know Burrow is on fire. Hopefully Certain and crew can shut down Jamar and Bryce can light up Tb again. He did already this year. Or just keep burrow in and hope he throws to Higgins, Gesicki, and Iocivas? Am I nuts? Lol
No, start Burrow. He has other weapons to throw to.
100% this.

Hope for a Higgins signature three TD day.
 
PPR league. Still torn on some major flex decisions (per above post). Want to isolate my WR choices. As you know, I've got to make this as interesting as possible for you.

* C. Kupp vs AZ -- Plays tonight. Indoors. AZ just let B. Young pass all over them, but curious if McVay is even interested. Been very run heavy lately and Stafford is just not throwing a ton. Kupp a clear #2 to Puka. Apparently, Kupp will draw CB G. Williams in the slot and he's one of the best in slot coverage.

or

* T. Hill @CLE -- Could see D. Ward. Waddle back. This team is Achane or bust lately. Weather looks iffy. K. Roth indicating "yellow/orange" with rain likely and 15 mph winds with gusts to 30.

If you have to bench one, who are you sitting?

Thanks
I probably bench Tyreek because of the reasons you stated. I think Miami will have an opportunity to run clock quite a bit.

The Rams may be able to run clock but, there are no weather issues and the Cardinals can still score more than the Browns, in theory, so hopefully put more pressure on the Rams offense.
 
1/2 point per reception. I’m down 18.8, he’s used his TE and a WR, I’ve used my K. I need one of the following:
James Connor - coming off leaving last weeks game with an injury but word is he will play.
JK Dobbins - coming off a 4 week injury but with the Gus bus parked likely to see a decent work load.
Cortland Sutton - probably least upside but not coming off an injury.

Also need to pick between Herbert and Purdy at QB.

Rest of my team RB - Gibbs and Jacob’s, WR - Jefferson and McLaurin, TE Ferguson, D - Miami
Sutton has the least upside? Not sure I agree. Best matchup by a mile and he's the driver of the passing game

I like Conner a lot but, he's dinged up, the Cardinals have nothing to play for but pride and, if they're smart they'll put him in bubble wrap early tonight. Stupid to pay him $19 mil a couple weeks ago then risk an injury in a meaningless game.

We have no idea how much usage Dobbins will see. Good TD chance for sure but I have trouble seeing this as a competitive game and would hope they don't overuse him in his first game back with a playoff run ahead.

Sutton for me, by a good margin.

I start Purdy at QB because of the matchup. Depleted Lions defense + #1 scoring offense.
 
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