packersfan
Footballguy
I don't want to turn this into a Week 17 debate but if you got there with Cousins and/or Reed and can't play them that really is a massive kick in the nads.
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Week 17 Final? Who you playing, benching, sneaky plays... (1 Viewer)
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QuizGuy66
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Week 17 is always tough when it comes to marginally banged up players.
I mean if the Bengals, say, fall behind by 17 to the Ravens, do they bother keeping McCarron in for reps or take him out to ensure his availablity? Eifert will be back in the lineup. But same question - will they pull him early?
More afraid of guys playing a half-game than a whole game.
Houston hasn't clinched but at the same time they need 9 results to go against them. If one of those games is out of hand in their favor, do they start to pull their guys in the 2nd half?
How much does New England care about #1 vs #2, especially when trying to keep guys fit.
Always a challenge
-QG
I mean if the Bengals, say, fall behind by 17 to the Ravens, do they bother keeping McCarron in for reps or take him out to ensure his availablity? Eifert will be back in the lineup. But same question - will they pull him early?
More afraid of guys playing a half-game than a whole game.
Houston hasn't clinched but at the same time they need 9 results to go against them. If one of those games is out of hand in their favor, do they start to pull their guys in the 2nd half?
How much does New England care about #1 vs #2, especially when trying to keep guys fit.
Always a challenge
-QG
Yenrub
Footballguy
I picked up Thomas since they said they'd rest Morris and Jones/Thompson have been dinged. I'm out of my championship in my last league left (other two done now), but I'm #1 in points and the total points $$$ is double the championship $$$ so still a lot to play for this week. I'll be deciding between Ivory, Bernard, Thomas and CAP. With Whittaker out, CAP might be a good play if they rest Stewart again. No idea why he was 5-49 and they wouldn't run him more last week. Then again they lost. Bernard and Ivory have just been trending down so hard to figure it out. Thomas/CAP Based on inactives maybe although if the other 3 games are early then I'm screwed in CAP. I've got Fitz over Taylor at QB and Cooks, Julio and OBJ (he's the reason I lost last week) locked in. Still wondering about Ertz/Delanie/Crabtree for the flex and if Santos/KC D are my best options.packersfan said:
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BearsFan4Life
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Going Landry and Decker over West and L Miller at Flex. Putting in Ertz over Reed as I think Reed plays a series or two and then sits.
Best score this week wins small amount of $$ in our 14 team leaague. This week is just a week to give us one last fantasy week.
Best score this week wins small amount of $$ in our 14 team leaague. This week is just a week to give us one last fantasy week.
packersfan
Footballguy
I'd love to take a shot with Mike Gillislee and see if the TD run continues but the matchup is not good at all. Jets still playing real well against the run.
I tried to pick him up, but he was already gone to a higher priority. The other issue is that the Jets definitely have something to play for in this game, so they won't be relaxing at all.
packersfan
Footballguy
I agree. It'd be him or Gio for me. I see no upside at all with Gio at this point but he should be safe for 6-8 points. If the Jets' D plays well Gillislee may not get that many.
Yeah, not sure which way I'll go. I sat Gio/Ivory for Michael/CAP and got 8 instead of 14, but I lost by 8, so those moves didn't matter. Still perplexed by CAP looking great (almost 10 ypc) and getting 5 carries. I just want to get enough out of the RBs, so I am leaning to sticking with Gio/Ivory knowing they will get me at least the normal. My WRs are my bread and butter (really hope Julio tries to set the reception record), so I just don't want the RBs to lose the total points for me. Then again, with Gio/Ivory, the ceiling seems to be so low lately (13, 20, 12, 14 last 4 weeks). Gio hasn't had a "good" week since week 11 and Ivory since week 12. Who knows, I guess that is part of the fun.
Watch out for Gurley this week. Hasn't been widely reported yet ( ie. rotoworld) but he missed Wednesday's practice and Fisher seemed to have some doubt about his availability when asked by reporters.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/boras-taking-nothing-for-granted-in-new-duties/article_22c67d5b-f8d3-5bb4-9ca5-a80bfa488d01.html
A new addition to the injury report was running back Todd Gurley, who was listed with a foot injury and did not practice Wednesday. Fisher wasn’t as definitive on Gurley’s status for San Francisco.
“We left him back at the hotel,” Fisher said. “He’s getting some treatment on his foot and we’ll see where he is.”
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/boras-taking-nothing-for-granted-in-new-duties/article_22c67d5b-f8d3-5bb4-9ca5-a80bfa488d01.html
A new addition to the injury report was running back Todd Gurley, who was listed with a foot injury and did not practice Wednesday. Fisher wasn’t as definitive on Gurley’s status for San Francisco.
“We left him back at the hotel,” Fisher said. “He’s getting some treatment on his foot and we’ll see where he is.”
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Yenrub
Footballguy
Gore 109 yards shy of 1,000 yards rushing and he wants to get to 1,000 so he can join an elite list of rushers with 10 1,000 yard seasons
Emmitt Smith (11), Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, and Curtis Martin
http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/Frank-Gore-Wants-1000-Yards-Badly-Pagano-Wants-It-Too/7de3b63a-6a74-4df9-a51a-a564cf0215f1
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Possible new goal-line vulture back for my Bengals
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/12/31/10695560/ryan-hewitt-injury-sparks-bengals-to-move-jake-fisher-to-fullback-h
-QG
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/12/31/10695560/ryan-hewitt-injury-sparks-bengals-to-move-jake-fisher-to-fullback-h
-QG
Well if Powell doesn't play then Ivory is obviously a much stronger play. He's been limited but that isn't surprising and it doesn't seem like they are worried about him not playing like we've heard potentially about Powell.
Sweating his limited practice or Powell? I am sweating Powell because he has absolutely eaten into Ivory's touches, not that Ivory has been doing much with them lately. I am not sweating him being limited at practice. No doubt he is likely getting a lot more rest with the importance of this week and with a win, a playoff game next week.
Todd Gurley did not practice on Thursday and is in a walking boot.
Looking kind of doubtful he plays in a meaningless game at this point.
https://twitter.com/jthom1/status/682710739254026240
Looking kind of doubtful he plays in a meaningless game at this point.
https://twitter.com/jthom1/status/682710739254026240
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packersfan
Footballguy
I just picked up Tre Mason. I'm really fired up to get to start him with all kinds of money on the line. Yay.
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
I'm getting good vibes about CJ Anderson this week. He's basically been in mothballs this whole season but with Reed's situation in doubt and I'm just not feeling Lacy, or Diggs, am I crazy rolling out CJ for all the marbles in a ppr?
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Poncho
Footballguy
I am looking at Tre, Powell, Gillisee or Artis-Payne. Artis seems to be the only sure thing at this time since I don't know the status of Gurley and powell.....
packersfan
Footballguy
There is pure garbage at RB on my WW right now so I'm giving some consideration to Jerrick McKinnon. I expect a heavy dose of Peterson as usual against the Packers but Green Bay can be run on and Peterson isn't 100% so they could give a few extra touches to McKinnon given the big plays he's been making lately. I know it's a pure dart at the wall play and it's probably a really stupid thing to do with everything on the line but I'm looking for someone, almost anyone, to start instead of Gio Bernard this week. Not sure I'll have the stones to start McKinnon but I am considering it.
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Raleigh Engineers
Footballguy
Thoughts on Tre Mason, with Gurley listed as doubtful? Does he get the majority of the carries? Will he do anything against SF at SF? SF D has been bad on the road, but ok at home.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Probably have to back-off using Denard Robinson week 17 (hell, it's not like he did much w/ his opportunity weeks 15 & 16 anyway) as there are reports, saying the Jags staff wants to give Gray a look this week.
Having a hard time with Mason. I don't know if I would start him (Ivory looking decent if Powell doesn't play and Artis-Payne looking good with Stewart and Whitaker out). Mason hasn't done much at all this year, so hard to tell if he or maybe Cunningham could get the bulk or if both split, let alone either being effective. I was just wondering if I should pick Mason up so he can't be used by another team. I lost (my OBJ replacement of Watson got me 1 point in an 8 point loss) last week, so I am trying to maintain my points lead to win that $$$.
ETA: Just picked him up and dropped Crabtree. He won't be starting for me, but I like the fact that Mason is the late game. I can decide between him and Artis-Payne once I see the final inactive list/twitter info, assuming Powell is out and Ivory is locked in my lineup.
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Mason was hurt early this season, battling a bad hammy. Also the OL was very new and worse than it is now.
Even Gurley could not knock Cunningham out of that third down role so he'll keep doing his thing but Mason should dominate non passing downs and look a lot better than he did earlier this season.
Basically it should look pretty similar to how it looked last year.
packersfan
Footballguy
One thing to remember about RB receptions is for some reason the Rams like using Mason more in that role than they did Gurley. Makes no sense but they did. Mason even caught 7 passes in one game this season. So while Cunningham is locked in as the third-down RB I could see Mason catching 2-4 passes this week. He seems like a much stronger lock for receptions as a starter than Gurley was which, of course, makes no sense, but is definitely a positive for Mason this week.
In the last four weeks, the 49ers have allowed 7 rushing TDs and nearly 130 rushing yards per game. On paper, this is a terrific matchup for Mason since the Rams will want to run the ball a lot no matter who the RB is. Mason had several good games last season so he's not a bum. He can play. When you combine the matchup and potential volume I would say Mason's ceiling is extremely high. There's definite downside since he's a backup who hasn't looked good all season but as a Gurley owner I'm starting him with a pretty decent degree of confidence.
In the last four weeks, the 49ers have allowed 7 rushing TDs and nearly 130 rushing yards per game. On paper, this is a terrific matchup for Mason since the Rams will want to run the ball a lot no matter who the RB is. Mason had several good games last season so he's not a bum. He can play. When you combine the matchup and potential volume I would say Mason's ceiling is extremely high. There's definite downside since he's a backup who hasn't looked good all season but as a Gurley owner I'm starting him with a pretty decent degree of confidence.
packersfan
Footballguy
Either Bell or Abdullah could be a nice play against a bad Chicago run defense. I just have no idea which one. Bell's a good bet to get a TD but will he do anything else and who knows what kind of a role Abdullah will have. Riddick's looking good in PPR like usual but I really think one of the other two RBs does well this week too.
Raleigh Engineers
Footballguy
The only thing about the 49ers D...they were absolutely awful on the road, but decent at home. I'd have much more confidence in Mason if this game was in St Louis.
packersfan
Footballguy
Ditto but they are still a bad run defense and Mason, if the game goes according to script, should get plenty of volume and the GL looks. I'm pretty sure most sites had Gurley as a Top 2-3 RB play this week because the matchup was so good (and because he's Gurley). Mason obviously isn't Gurley but he won't need to be if he gets 15-20 touches. I think 60-70 yards rushing, 2 receptions and a TD is very reachable and the ceiling is even higher.
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packersfan
Footballguy
The Redskins' primary RB could be a good play this week too if we have some idea who that might be. The Cowboys have sprouted holes lately with their run defense. Jones won't play and Morris probably won't play much if at all. So it would likely be Thompson or Thomas. Pierre is banged up this week so maybe it's Thompson? Or will Gruden view him as the superior playoff option over Pierre and not want him playing a lot? This is the fun of Week 17 but if we get word by game time that one RB is looking at volume that guy is in a position to do well.
I grabbed Thomas as well but with Morris and Thompson healthy I have no clue how they will go especially since Thomas is a little banged up. They've seemed to state that the starters will play some so I think I'll stick to Ivory, Mason and Payne in that order since I think Powell and Gurley are not going to play. I love Payne but their usage of him last week scares me a bit. How do you average 10ypc when Stewart is out and get 5 carries against a bad run D?
Raleigh Engineers
Footballguy
Agree on Payne. You would think he'd get a big workload, but can't count on it.
I picked up Mason, and have Powell (likely out?), Langford, Payne, and K Williams. I'm currently learning towards K Williams, Langford, and Mason. I'm a little concerned that the Bears may feed Forte in his last game with the Bears, so I may start Payne over Langford.
Raleigh Engineers
Footballguy
Based on his comments since he came back from injury I don't think Forte would view a healthy workload as a nice send off but rather just the opposite.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
TE Jordan Reed a sit or start with WAS having nothing to gain ?
UFFLCommish
Footballguy
He's a start according to FBGuys.
IMHO, that is crazy. Washington has nothing to play for and everything to lose if one of their key guys gets hurt. I have no idea why they would play anyone. Dallas has a decent defense, so the last thing you need is Reed taking a bad hit. Honestly, I wouldn't trust any of the Washington players. One bad hit and they could all go to the bench. That said, I still can't believe Gruden has Cousins starting and they won't treat this like a bye week.
pghrob
Footballguy
SpruceGoose
Footballguy
Are the Philly guys (Ertz/Matthews) safe?
Chip is gone, and its a meaningless game.
Chip is gone, and its a meaningless game.
I would think Ertz is safer, but both should be safe. I would think Bradford would lean on Ertz and I would assume that they would have to be running the same offense this week. Not sure how they could run anything else. Matthews has been better lately, but I put him as less safe just because he (for my other lost in the playoffs team) was already inconsistent week to week.
Bilal Powell is out, so Ivory is locked in for me at 1pm. Will be sitting on the 4pm inactives, but right now, I have Mason in over Artis-Payne. I sat someone against TB's run D before and it worked well, so thinking Mason sans Gurley is a better play against SF's run defense.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Thinking of rolling out Bradford over Cousins in a Superflex.
