Week 6: Critiquing the Site's Content (1 Viewer)

[egofailure]

1) I don't understand why the Cowboys are ranked #2 when they're facing the high-powered Cardinals. Didn't they just give up 400+ yards to the 'Skins?

2) And the Giants are ranked 9th when facing the struggling Browns?

3) Is Lance Moore still a top-10 start? Dodds/Norton think so, but I disagree.

4) Ben Watson faces the Chargers this week, and writer Henry lists him as a solid sleeper. Meanwhile, Dodds/Norton ranks Watson 23rd this week for TE.

5) Is Schaub a better start than Eli? With Plaxico back?

What have YOU questioned? What do you think Is DEAD ON?

Discuss.

 

[AgentMulder]

1) I don't understand why the Cowboys are ranked #2 when they're facing the high-powered Cardinals. Didn't they just give up 400+ yards to the 'Skins?2) And the Giants are ranked 9th when facing the struggling Browns?3) Is Lance Moore still a top-10 start? Dodds/Norton think so, but I disagree.4) Ben Watson faces the Chargers this week, and writer Henry lists him as a solid sleeper. Meanwhile, Dodds/Norton ranks Watson 23rd this week for TE.5) Is Schaub a better start than Eli? With Plaxico back?What have YOU questioned? What do you think Is DEAD ON?Discuss.

I'm not sure I really pay much attention to their projections any more myself. I would really like to see some sort of caption explaining why a player is ranked better than another, anyone can throw up numbers....

 

[Arnold. S]

1) I don't understand why the Cowboys are ranked #2 when they're facing the high-powered Cardinals. Didn't they just give up 400+ yards to the 'Skins?2) And the Giants are ranked 9th when facing the struggling Browns?3) Is Lance Moore still a top-10 start? Dodds/Norton think so, but I disagree.4) Ben Watson faces the Chargers this week, and writer Henry lists him as a solid sleeper. Meanwhile, Dodds/Norton ranks Watson 23rd this week for TE.5) Is Schaub a better start than Eli? With Plaxico back?What have YOU questioned? What do you think Is DEAD ON?Discuss.

I'm not sure I really pay much attention to their projections any more myself. I would really like to see some sort of caption explaining why a player is ranked better than another, anyone can throw up numbers....

I would really like to see reasoning behind projections.

 

[joffer]

3) Is Lance Moore still a top-10 start?

yes

 

[Gordon Keith]

I don't understand these posts Its your team make up your own mind.Nobody is right all the time in this sport.

 

[Black]

I don't understand these posts Its your team make up your own mind.Nobody is right all the time in this sport.

But people pay money to have folks dig through stats and put together projections.I think he IS making up his own mind and finding some stuff that seems 'off.'

 

[Arnold. S]

I don't understand these posts Its your team make up your own mind.Nobody is right all the time in this sport.

then what's the point of assistant coach forum and fantasy websites? sometimes it's your own team, you tend to overthink, overvalue, undervalue, or just straight up panicking. Having an outside opinion, especially from 'experts' that you are paying money for, is necessary.

 

[FantasyTrader]

The Chargers are 32nd against the pass.

 

[steviey]

Based on what I saw Monday night and the fact they are playing the Lions at home, Berrian seems pretty low in the 2nd opinion projections.

 

[sportsphysio]

Calvin Johnson going up against Minnesota, who just shut down NO, in Minnesota, with a backup QB at the helm doesn't seem to jive with his #8 WR ranking to me.

 

[Interseptopus]

I don't understand that after 5 awful performances Ryan Grant is still ranked as high as he is... at least on my Custom CheetSheets he is...

(Grant owner)

 

[Jayrod]

One thing I've found....

the projections are very high on a weekly basis, especially the IDP's...maybe it's all those fractions of an TD, INT, etc. that add up to more than the whole, but everytime I add up my "projected" point total, the actual point total is usually 10% below that.

I haven't hit the projected total a single time in 5 weeks so far this year. Of course Braylon Edwards and Nick Barnett probably have a lot to do with that....

 

[Jayrod]

I don't understand that after 5 awful performances Ryan Grant is still ranked as high as he is... at least on my Custom CheetSheets he is... (Grant owner)

Both Dodds and Bloom have Braylon Edwards totalling his best game of the year against the NY Giants.At least Norton has finally knocked Barnett down to reasonable levels.

 

[burd]

The Chargers are 32nd against the pass.

Relating to the Chargers D this weekend, Wednesday night's Offensive Sleeper article made an interesting case about why a certain player is in a potentially great matchup. Don't want to give out too much subscriber info for free, but if you've read the article, you know who im talking about. I've got a player on the BYE that i need to cover, so this might be just the type of matchup that im looking for

 

[FantasyTrader]

1) I don't understand why the Cowboys are ranked #2 when they're facing the high-powered Cardinals. Didn't they just give up 400+ yards to the 'Skins?

2) And the Giants are ranked 9th when facing the struggling Browns?

3) Is Lance Moore still a top-10 start? Dodds/Norton think so, but I disagree.

4) Ben Watson faces the Chargers this week, and writer Henry lists him as a solid sleeper. Meanwhile, Dodds/Norton ranks Watson 23rd this week for TE.

5) Is Schaub a better start than Eli? With Plaxico back?

What have YOU questioned? What do you think Is DEAD ON?

Discuss.

I'm not sure I really pay much attention to their projections any more myself. I would really like to see some sort of caption explaining why a player is ranked better than another, anyone can throw up numbers....

Anyone can throw up numbers? I don't think you have an accurate perception of the amount of time it takes just to research matchups and go player by player, projecting what you honestly feel a guy will score each week. There's so much to take into account. You're paying FBG for their bottom line opinion because you've trusted they've researched the facts more than you have - and have a better understanding of the variables at play. Not to take you step-by-step through their thought process. An overwhelming amount of time went into research/thought/pen-to-paper and you want them to go a step further and talk you through it?I wish everyone had the opportunity to just sit down and watch ONE single article being prepped, researched, written, revised and published. If you had that opportunity, your jaw would drop to the floor at the amount of weekly info that disseminated on this site.

 

[burd]

Calvin Johnson going up against Minnesota, who just shut down NO, in Minnesota, with a backup QB at the helm doesn't seem to jive with his #8 WR ranking to me.

i tend to agree with you ... but Minn isn't great against the pass (statistically). Last week was an annomoly for CJ in that Roy Williams had 3X as many targets as CJ. The Lions can't run and the Vikes wouldn't let them run anyway. There's going to be a lot of passing done by whoever QBs for the Lions, which just might be Kitna anyway.

 

[AgentMulder]

1) I don't understand why the Cowboys are ranked #2 when they're facing the high-powered Cardinals. Didn't they just give up 400+ yards to the 'Skins?

2) And the Giants are ranked 9th when facing the struggling Browns?

3) Is Lance Moore still a top-10 start? Dodds/Norton think so, but I disagree.

4) Ben Watson faces the Chargers this week, and writer Henry lists him as a solid sleeper. Meanwhile, Dodds/Norton ranks Watson 23rd this week for TE.

5) Is Schaub a better start than Eli? With Plaxico back?

What have YOU questioned? What do you think Is DEAD ON?

Discuss.

I'm not sure I really pay much attention to their projections any more myself. I would really like to see some sort of caption explaining why a player is ranked better than another, anyone can throw up numbers....

Anyone can throw up numbers? I don't think you have an accurate perception of the amount of time it takes just to research matchups and go player by player, projecting what you honestly feel a guy will score each week. There's so much to take into account. You're paying FBG for their bottom line opinion because you've trusted they've researched the facts more than you have - and have a better understanding of the variables at play. Not to take you step-by-step through their thought process. An overwhelming amount of time went into research/thought/pen-to-paper and you want them to go a step further and talk you through it?I wish everyone had the opportunity to just sit down and watch ONE single article being prepped, researched, written, revised and published. If you had that opportunity, your jaw would drop to the floor at the amount of weekly info that disseminated on this site.

LOL. I don't need FBG to talk me through anything. I've seen enough already to know I'm not renewing my subscription next year unless I hear of some major improvements. The articles that stand out the most for me are the Strength of Schedule and the the Rushing/Passing matchups. When u say talk me through projections, that's not what I want at all. Let me try to put into your feeble mind what I meant by my comment, I WANT a reason why a player is ranked over another player, not some numbers. Maybe you just like to trust FBG to do the research but I want to hear the results of the research and understand why the conclusion that is being brought before me is what has been decided as the best conclusion. Anyone can deduce what they like from projections I want the theory behind the projections. Bottom line I'm not bashing these guys for what they do, but if they can't back up their projections with some kind of fact wtf are these #s then? Hopefully u can wrap your mind around that......

 

[everydayj]

1) I don't understand why the Cowboys are ranked #2 when they're facing the high-powered Cardinals. Didn't they just give up 400+ yards to the 'Skins?

2) And the Giants are ranked 9th when facing the struggling Browns?

3) Is Lance Moore still a top-10 start? Dodds/Norton think so, but I disagree.

4) Ben Watson faces the Chargers this week, and writer Henry lists him as a solid sleeper. Meanwhile, Dodds/Norton ranks Watson 23rd this week for TE.

5) Is Schaub a better start than Eli? With Plaxico back?

What have YOU questioned? What do you think Is DEAD ON?

Discuss.

I'm not sure I really pay much attention to their projections any more myself. I would really like to see some sort of caption explaining why a player is ranked better than another, anyone can throw up numbers....

Anyone can throw up numbers? I don't think you have an accurate perception of the amount of time it takes just to research matchups and go player by player, projecting what you honestly feel a guy will score each week. There's so much to take into account. You're paying FBG for their bottom line opinion because you've trusted they've researched the facts more than you have - and have a better understanding of the variables at play. Not to take you step-by-step through their thought process. An overwhelming amount of time went into research/thought/pen-to-paper and you want them to go a step further and talk you through it?I wish everyone had the opportunity to just sit down and watch ONE single article being prepped, researched, written, revised and published. If you had that opportunity, your jaw would drop to the floor at the amount of weekly info that disseminated on this site.

LOL. I don't need FBG to talk me through anything. I've seen enough already to know I'm not renewing my subscription next year unless I hear of some major improvements. The articles that stand out the most for me are the Strength of Schedule and the the Rushing/Passing matchups. When u say talk me through projections, that's not what I want at all. Let me try to put into your feeble mind what I meant by my comment, I WANT a reason why a player is ranked over another player, not some numbers. Maybe you just like to trust FBG to do the research but I want to hear the results of the research and understand why the conclusion that is being brought before me is what has been decided as the best conclusion. Anyone can deduce what they like from projections I want the theory behind the projections. Bottom line I'm not bashing these guys for what they do, but if they can't back up their projections with some kind of fact wtf are these #s then? Hopefully u can wrap your mind around that......

I'd like for you to try and get your point across without insulting somebody that disagrees with your opinion, but hey, I guess we all can't get what we want.

 

[egofailure]

Why isn't Scheffler's repleacement, Nate Jackson, ranked this week?

 

[Big Petey]

I'm having a little trouble with Reggie Bush DROPPING from 7th to 11th in the Top 250 forward this week.

I understand he's not going to get 2 return TDs per week, but he's ranked #1 in my league right now (by a lot). Strickly from a rushing standpoint, his week wasn't impressive, but you can't overlook all the other ways he's getting points. And, the schedule isn't that tough, with a couple of cupcakes along the way.

Anyone have any insight, besides the possible return of Colston, that this might be the case?

 

[vffkl]

I would just like to see any site matchup their projection and rankings against the actual numbers both weekly and seasonal. I should be able to go back to any week in the season and look at projections and see the actual numbers right beside it. The other would be season projections vs real stats projected out from any point on after week4. This is useful for seeing if a guy is on track for the type of season the site projected or my rankings of the players.

 

[Crusaderfan]

I don't usually pay much attention to these because I really don't know how accurate they are BUT when I took a quick glance this week and saw Buckhalter getting 22 carries, that got my attention. The last time Westbrook got more than 22 or more carries was 11/18/07. Does anybody even check these things after the computer spits them out?

 

[AgentMulder]

1) I don't understand why the Cowboys are ranked #2 when they're facing the high-powered Cardinals. Didn't they just give up 400+ yards to the 'Skins?

2) And the Giants are ranked 9th when facing the struggling Browns?

3) Is Lance Moore still a top-10 start? Dodds/Norton think so, but I disagree.

4) Ben Watson faces the Chargers this week, and writer Henry lists him as a solid sleeper. Meanwhile, Dodds/Norton ranks Watson 23rd this week for TE.

5) Is Schaub a better start than Eli? With Plaxico back?

What have YOU questioned? What do you think Is DEAD ON?

Discuss.

I'm not sure I really pay much attention to their projections any more myself. I would really like to see some sort of caption explaining why a player is ranked better than another, anyone can throw up numbers....

Anyone can throw up numbers? I don't think you have an accurate perception of the amount of time it takes just to research matchups and go player by player, projecting what you honestly feel a guy will score each week. There's so much to take into account. You're paying FBG for their bottom line opinion because you've trusted they've researched the facts more than you have - and have a better understanding of the variables at play. Not to take you step-by-step through their thought process. An overwhelming amount of time went into research/thought/pen-to-paper and you want them to go a step further and talk you through it?I wish everyone had the opportunity to just sit down and watch ONE single article being prepped, researched, written, revised and published. If you had that opportunity, your jaw would drop to the floor at the amount of weekly info that disseminated on this site.

LOL. I don't need FBG to talk me through anything. I've seen enough already to know I'm not renewing my subscription next year unless I hear of some major improvements. The articles that stand out the most for me are the Strength of Schedule and the the Rushing/Passing matchups. When u say talk me through projections, that's not what I want at all. Let me try to put into your feeble mind what I meant by my comment, I WANT a reason why a player is ranked over another player, not some numbers. Maybe you just like to trust FBG to do the research but I want to hear the results of the research and understand why the conclusion that is being brought before me is what has been decided as the best conclusion. Anyone can deduce what they like from projections I want the theory behind the projections. Bottom line I'm not bashing these guys for what they do, but if they can't back up their projections with some kind of fact wtf are these #s then? Hopefully u can wrap your mind around that......

I'd like for you to try and get your point across without insulting somebody that disagrees with your opinion, but hey, I guess we all can't get what we want.

I'm making a statement based on his/her response to my post, I could care less whether he/she/you agrees with me. It appeared the poster for some reason was unable to grasp what I originally posted therefore....... If you read the other comments in this thread you will see that others aren't 100% happy with the projections either, and what I was insinuating from the beginning is maybe we can get a reason or two why someone is projected at their rank/score.

 

[Breesisdaman]

Calvin Johnson going up against Minnesota, who just shut down NO, in Minnesota, with a backup QB at the helm doesn't seem to jive with his #8 WR ranking to me.

Huh? Shut down New Orleans? N.O. was all over the Vikings and especially through the air and thats with their best two receivers and TE out. Please!

 

[Road Warriors]

I'm having a little trouble with Reggie Bush DROPPING from 7th to 11th in the Top 250 forward this week. I understand he's not going to get 2 return TDs per week, but he's ranked #1 in my league right now (by a lot). Strickly from a rushing standpoint, his week wasn't impressive, but you can't overlook all the other ways he's getting points. And, the schedule isn't that tough, with a couple of cupcakes along the way.Anyone have any insight, besides the possible return of Colston, that this might be the case?

Just a guess, but I'll bet you own Reggie in a PPR scoring system, and I believe the Top 250 Forward does not use PPR scoring.Reggie is MUCH lower ranked without PPR.

 

[Road Warriors]

I would just like to see any site matchup their projection and rankings against the actual numbers both weekly and seasonal. I should be able to go back to any week in the season and look at projections and see the actual numbers right beside it. The other would be season projections vs real stats projected out from any point on after week4. This is useful for seeing if a guy is on track for the type of season the site projected or my rankings of the players.

I think there was a project underway here to evaluate a number of top FFL sites projections to actual over the course of several weeks this season. You can find a discussion of the methods here

 

[Big Petey]

I'm having a little trouble with Reggie Bush DROPPING from 7th to 11th in the Top 250 forward this week. I understand he's not going to get 2 return TDs per week, but he's ranked #1 in my league right now (by a lot). Strickly from a rushing standpoint, his week wasn't impressive, but you can't overlook all the other ways he's getting points. And, the schedule isn't that tough, with a couple of cupcakes along the way.Anyone have any insight, besides the possible return of Colston, that this might be the case?

Just a guess, but I'll bet you own Reggie in a PPR scoring system, and I believe the Top 250 Forward does not use PPR scoring.Reggie is MUCH lower ranked without PPR.

Our system is .5 points/rec., so it's not as far off as PPR scoring system. Plus, Bush is ranked behind Steven Jackson, who's also getting a good chunk of his points in the receiving game as well. I'll have to check the Custom Top 250 later in the week, but I still don't think Reggie deserved to DROP in the rankings.BTW, I don't own him.

 

[MCguidance]

1) I don't understand why the Cowboys are ranked #2 when they're facing the high-powered Cardinals. Didn't they just give up 400+ yards to the 'Skins?

2) And the Giants are ranked 9th when facing the struggling Browns?

3) Is Lance Moore still a top-10 start? Dodds/Norton think so, but I disagree.

4) Ben Watson faces the Chargers this week, and writer Henry lists him as a solid sleeper. Meanwhile, Dodds/Norton ranks Watson 23rd this week for TE.

5) Is Schaub a better start than Eli? With Plaxico back?

What have YOU questioned? What do you think Is DEAD ON?

Discuss.

I'm not sure I really pay much attention to their projections any more myself. I would really like to see some sort of caption explaining why a player is ranked better than another, anyone can throw up numbers....

Anyone can throw up numbers? I don't think you have an accurate perception of the amount of time it takes just to research matchups and go player by player, projecting what you honestly feel a guy will score each week. There's so much to take into account. You're paying FBG for their bottom line opinion because you've trusted they've researched the facts more than you have - and have a better understanding of the variables at play. Not to take you step-by-step through their thought process. An overwhelming amount of time went into research/thought/pen-to-paper and you want them to go a step further and talk you through it?I wish everyone had the opportunity to just sit down and watch ONE single article being prepped, researched, written, revised and published. If you had that opportunity, your jaw would drop to the floor at the amount of weekly info that disseminated on this site.

LOL. I don't need FBG to talk me through anything. I've seen enough already to know I'm not renewing my subscription next year unless I hear of some major improvements. The articles that stand out the most for me are the Strength of Schedule and the the Rushing/Passing matchups. When u say talk me through projections, that's not what I want at all. Let me try to put into your feeble mind what I meant by my comment, I WANT a reason why a player is ranked over another player, not some numbers. Maybe you just like to trust FBG to do the research but I want to hear the results of the research and understand why the conclusion that is being brought before me is what has been decided as the best conclusion. Anyone can deduce what they like from projections I want the theory behind the projections. Bottom line I'm not bashing these guys for what they do, but if they can't back up their projections with some kind of fact wtf are these #s then? Hopefully u can wrap your mind around that......

I'd like for you to try and get your point across without insulting somebody that disagrees with your opinion, but hey, I guess we all can't get what we want.

I'm making a statement based on his/her response to my post, I could care less whether he/she/you agrees with me. It appeared the poster for some reason was unable to grasp what I originally posted therefore....... If you read the other comments in this thread you will see that others aren't 100% happy with the projections either, and what I was insinuating from the beginning is maybe we can get a reason or two why someone is projected at their rank/score.

I'm pretty happy and I'm in this thread. It's called tact. I was surprised to see Bush drop but maybe it has to do with the fact that not every league has individual return yards accounted for, or special teams TDs from your individual player.

I am wondering where they would have Colston ranked/projected if/when he comes back.

 

[FantasyTrader]

1) I don't understand why the Cowboys are ranked #2 when they're facing the high-powered Cardinals. Didn't they just give up 400+ yards to the 'Skins?

2) And the Giants are ranked 9th when facing the struggling Browns?

3) Is Lance Moore still a top-10 start? Dodds/Norton think so, but I disagree.

4) Ben Watson faces the Chargers this week, and writer Henry lists him as a solid sleeper. Meanwhile, Dodds/Norton ranks Watson 23rd this week for TE.

5) Is Schaub a better start than Eli? With Plaxico back?

What have YOU questioned? What do you think Is DEAD ON?

Discuss.

I'm not sure I really pay much attention to their projections any more myself. I would really like to see some sort of caption explaining why a player is ranked better than another, anyone can throw up numbers....

Anyone can throw up numbers? I don't think you have an accurate perception of the amount of time it takes just to research matchups and go player by player, projecting what you honestly feel a guy will score each week. There's so much to take into account. You're paying FBG for their bottom line opinion because you've trusted they've researched the facts more than you have - and have a better understanding of the variables at play. Not to take you step-by-step through their thought process. An overwhelming amount of time went into research/thought/pen-to-paper and you want them to go a step further and talk you through it?I wish everyone had the opportunity to just sit down and watch ONE single article being prepped, researched, written, revised and published. If you had that opportunity, your jaw would drop to the floor at the amount of weekly info that disseminated on this site.

LOL. I don't need FBG to talk me through anything. I've seen enough already to know I'm not renewing my subscription next year unless I hear of some major improvements. The articles that stand out the most for me are the Strength of Schedule and the the Rushing/Passing matchups. When u say talk me through projections, that's not what I want at all. Let me try to put into your feeble mind what I meant by my comment, I WANT a reason why a player is ranked over another player, not some numbers. Maybe you just like to trust FBG to do the research but I want to hear the results of the research and understand why the conclusion that is being brought before me is what has been decided as the best conclusion. Anyone can deduce what they like from projections I want the theory behind the projections. Bottom line I'm not bashing these guys for what they do, but if they can't back up their projections with some kind of fact wtf are these #s then? Hopefully u can wrap your mind around that......

I'd like for you to try and get your point across without insulting somebody that disagrees with your opinion, but hey, I guess we all can't get what we want.

I'm making a statement based on his/her response to my post, I could care less whether he/she/you agrees with me. It appeared the poster for some reason was unable to grasp what I originally posted therefore....... If you read the other comments in this thread you will see that others aren't 100% happy with the projections either, and what I was insinuating from the beginning is maybe we can get a reason or two why someone is projected at their rank/score.

I re-read your response twice (granted, with a feeble mind) and I'm sure I have grasped what you want. You want their analysis behind the numbers. "...but I want to hear the results of the research and understand why the conclusion that is being brought before me is what has been decided as the best conclusion". AKA: Take you through their thought process. I just don't think you have an understanding of the extra work that would entail.