What a weird little fantasy league... (1 Viewer)

[SuperJohn96]

Team 1 - SuperJohn96

Team 2 - Hear-the-Footsteps

Team 3 - Football Jones Junior

Team 4 - wildbill

Team 5 - BlueOnion

Team 6 - Lobo237

Team 7 - WisWolvrns

Team 8 - dickey moe

Alternates:

cws3030

pinda

Norseman

I have a friend on my ball hockey team who is big into football, and knowledgable too. I had an opening in my league and asked him to join. Knowing he was already in another league, I figured he would have a smooth transition into my league.Once I started going over our scoring, rules and draft, etc...and noticing he was more than a little confused, I asked him about the league he was in...WOW...

8 Owners (all friends)

$500 entry per person

Top Scoring team takes all ($4000 pot)

Draft 10 Players

Start 10 Players

No Trades & No Drop/Adds (No roster changes whatsoever)

Start 3-QB, 3-RB, 3-WR & 1 PK

With 8 owners, you have 24-QB, 24-RB, 24-WR & 24 PK

Anyone else been in or seen a league like this before?

I just think this is odd to have these rules with a $500 entry fee.

It might be fun (and easy to run) for a group of friends for like $50 per team...but $500 is too much for this type of league IMHO...

PLUS forget about having injuries decimate your team...

FWIW, the winner last year killed everyone with Shaun Alexander and Steve Smith...

 

[Dancing Bear]

You might as well just lite the $500 on fire. At least then you could have some fun watching the $ go.

I would never spend anywhere near that much $ on any sort of fantasy activity. Especially given you cannot adjust based on injury, demotion, or schedule ...

 

[dickey moe]

1st pick has way too much of an advantage in this league. You get Peyton M., chances are you're going to win.

 

[perry147]

1st pick has way too much of an advantage in this league. You get Peyton M., chances are you're going to win.

Or LT. Someone with no injury history is gold.

Tiki Barber also.

Tom Brady.

 

[BlueOnion]

Draft 10 Players

Start 10 Players

No Trades & No Drop/Adds (No roster changes whatsoever)

Start 3-QB, 3-RB, 3-WR & 1 PK

I haven't been in anything like this league yet, but this is high-level sharky stuff. There is no room for error (carrying backups, waiver wire or free agents); the $1,000 pot comes down to who can best predict player performances before the season starts.

 

[LHUCKS]

Is this the first year for the league? If not, post last year's draft and I'll tell you exactly what to do.

 

[amaizingblu]

but $500 is too much for this type of league IMHO...

It's canadien, right Johnny? That's like what, $100 in American? no biggie.

 

[SuperJohn96]

but $500 is too much for this type of league IMHO...

It's canadien, right Johnny? That's like what, $100 in American? no biggie.

Keep talking...have you SEEN the exchange lately? LOL...

 

[SuperJohn96]

Is this the first year for the league? If not, post last year's draft and I'll tell you exactly what to do.

No...I am not joining...he was just telling me all about it and I thought it was a bit kooky.Interesting but kooky.

I was told that this league has been going for several years now (since '97 I think), and none of this is done online...so I have no draft history or anything. All I know is the draft is serpentine, and that last year Shaun Alexander went first overall (to the eventual champion), and my friend went with Terrell Owens in the second round at #10 overall (8 team league). Oh yeah, and it is a PPR league too...

That said, I did volunteer to be a 'consultant' for him...LOL

Now, with this kind of setup, and since injuries are a huge factor since you cannot compensate with roster changes...what kind of strategy would work here?

I haven't investigated it at all, but I brought up to him the possibility of putting all the eggs in one or two baskets, and draft players from the same team...

Now I realize doing that would be difficult since those players would likely already be highly rated, but why not just go for broke?

 

[BlueOnion]

That said, I did volunteer to be a 'consultant' for him...LOL

You might want to hire him as a consultant.

 

[Hear-the-Footsteps]

Is this the first year for the league? If not, post last year's draft and I'll tell you exactly what to do.

I agree with this. I would love to see how their draft went!!

 

[Sinrman]

You might as well just lite the $500 on fire. At least then you could have some fun watching the $ go.

I would never spend anywhere near that much $ on any sort of fantasy activity. Especially given you cannot adjust based on injury, demotion, or schedule ...

Actually, I think going out and buying a $500 lottery ticket, with a 1 out of 8 chance to win is more like it...What a bizarre twist to a league. Kind of a survival-esque league... nothing wrong with it, but to plop down $500 on a winner-take-all? Eh.. no thanks

 

[SuperJohn96]

That said, I did volunteer to be a 'consultant' for him...LOL

You might want to hire him as a consultant.

Hey now...My team is the reigning Serious Football League Champions.

Betta' reco'nize fool!

 

[cws3030]

Draft 10 Players

Start 10 Players

No Trades & No Drop/Adds (No roster changes whatsoever)

Start 3-QB, 3-RB, 3-WR & 1 PK

I haven't been in anything like this league yet, but this is high-level sharky stuff. There is no room for error (carrying backups, waiver wire or free agents); the $1,000 pot comes down to who can best predict player performances before the season starts.

its kind of like saying who creates the best pre-draft cheet sheet. i can only imagine how this would help out preparing for a typical re-draft.

 

[SuperJohn96]

Is this the first year for the league? If not, post last year's draft and I'll tell you exactly what to do.

I agree with this. I would love to see how their draft went!!

Hmmm...maybe I need to get the scoring and we can start our own 8 team league...just for ####s and giggles.Because the more I think about it, the more fascinated I am by this concept.

Team 1 - SuperJohn96

Team 2 -

Team 3 -

Team 4 -

Team 5 -

Team 6 -

Team 7 -

Team 8 -

 

[BlueOnion]

Draft 10 Players

Start 10 Players

No Trades & No Drop/Adds (No roster changes whatsoever)

Start 3-QB, 3-RB, 3-WR & 1 PK

I haven't been in anything like this league yet, but this is high-level sharky stuff. There is no room for error (carrying backups, waiver wire or free agents); the $1,000 pot comes down to who can best predict player performances before the season starts.

its kind of like saying who creates the best pre-draft cheet sheet. i can only imagine how this would help out preparing for a typical re-draft.

It's a lot harder to put Tom Brady or Carson Palmer as your #1 quarterback before the season starts then to say, "Okay, let me see how these guys start the season before I lock on to a starting quarterback for the final 12 games."

I am not putting other formats down. Some people enjoy the trading, dropping, adding and shifting lineups throughout the 16 week season of fantasy football, but it is a far easier and more forgiving format than loading your gun before week 1 and rolling with your projections.

 

[Football Jones Junior]

Is this the first year for the league?  If not, post last year's draft and I'll tell you exactly what to do.

I agree with this. I would love to see how their draft went!!

Hmmm...maybe I need to get the scoring and we can start our own 8 team league...just for ####s and giggles.Because the more I think about it, the more fascinated I am by this concept.

Team 1 - SuperJohn96

Team 2 -

Team 3 -

Team 4 -

Team 5 -

Team 6 -

Team 7 -

Team 8 -

money?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Draft 10 Players

Start 10 Players

No Trades & No Drop/Adds (No roster changes whatsoever)

Start 3-QB, 3-RB, 3-WR & 1 PK

I haven't been in anything like this league yet, but this is high-level sharky stuff. There is no room for error (carrying backups, waiver wire or free agents); the $1,000 pot comes down to who gets luckiest in regards to injuries.

Fixed.

 

[SuperJohn96]

Is this the first year for the league? If not, post last year's draft and I'll tell you exactly what to do.

I agree with this. I would love to see how their draft went!!

Hmmm...maybe I need to get the scoring and we can start our own 8 team league...just for ####s and giggles.Because the more I think about it, the more fascinated I am by this concept.

Team 1 - SuperJohn96

Team 2 -

Team 3 -

Team 4 -

Team 5 -

Team 6 -

Team 7 -

Team 8 -

money?

No of course not...

 

[Hear-the-Footsteps]

Is this the first year for the league?  If not, post last year's draft and I'll tell you exactly what to do.

I agree with this. I would love to see how their draft went!!

Hmmm...maybe I need to get the scoring and we can start our own 8 team league...just for ####s and giggles.Because the more I think about it, the more fascinated I am by this concept.

Team 1 - SuperJohn96

Team 2 -

Team 3 -

Team 4 -

Team 5 -

Team 6 -

Team 7 -

Team 8 -

I'll try it. Set up the league - let's draft at end of August - and revisit next January.

 

[BlueOnion]

Draft 10 Players

Start 10 Players

No Trades & No Drop/Adds (No roster changes whatsoever)

Start 3-QB, 3-RB, 3-WR & 1 PK

I haven't been in anything like this league yet, but this is high-level sharky stuff. There is no room for error (carrying backups, waiver wire or free agents); the $1,000 pot comes down to who gets luckiest in regards to injuries.

Fixed.

Injuries are part of the game and I suspect every team would probably suffer at least one significant injury.

 

[SuperJohn96]

I'll try it. Set up the league - let's draft at end of August - and revisit next January.

First post edited with two of 8 owners.Yeah, the important part of this will be when we review the season.

 

[BoltBacker]

Draft 10 Players

Start 10 Players

No Trades & No Drop/Adds (No roster changes whatsoever)

Start 3-QB, 3-RB, 3-WR & 1 PK

I haven't been in anything like this league yet, but this is high-level sharky stuff. There is no room for error (carrying backups, waiver wire or free agents); the $1,000 pot comes down to who can best predict player performances before the season starts.

Strongly disagree.Looks like a big-money league for casual footbal fans.

A casual football fan can rattle off the top 24 QB, 24 RB, 24 WR and 8PK's. A casual football fan can buy any one of a million magazines and consider themselves prepared for that draft in about half an hour in a league like that. A casual football fan can win a league where you don't have to put much time into the league or even paying too much attention to football during the season.

A shark league is won and lost on the FA wire where everyone in the league is scouring every news source all season long to find out who's starting, who's being replaced, who's up and coming and getting reps with the first string offense despite the fact they haven't actually appeared in a box score yet. A shark league is a very large one that prompts many of us on this board to quibble over who should be ranked the 85th WR and who should be ranked the 115th WR(those are some of my favorite discussioins by the way.... and fine, I'll admit it... I was a little too high on Reggie Williams last year!).

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a high-stakes league for casual fans but the league described certainly isn't for sharks. Just because the stakes are high in an endeavor doesn't mean any more skill is being used.

 

[Football Jones Junior]

Is this the first year for the league?  If not, post last year's draft and I'll tell you exactly what to do.

I agree with this. I would love to see how their draft went!!

Hmmm...maybe I need to get the scoring and we can start our own 8 team league...just for ####s and giggles.Because the more I think about it, the more fascinated I am by this concept.

Team 1 - SuperJohn96

Team 2 -

Team 3 -

Team 4 -

Team 5 -

Team 6 -

Team 7 -

Team 8 -

money?

No of course not...

Wellp im in then. How are we going to do this? I mean like everybody throw in 10 bucks and go MFL or what?

 

[BlueOnion]

A shark league is won and lost on the FA wire where everyone in the league is scouring every news source all season long to find out who's starting, who's being replaced, who's up and coming and getting reps with the first string offense despite the fact they haven't actually appeared in a box score yet.

I disagree here, but I don't think your paradigm is wrong, just different from mine. The shark you are describing sounds more like an habitual and compulsive individual than a knowledgeable individual.

 

[BoltBacker]

A shark league is won and lost on the FA wire where everyone in the league is scouring every news source all season long to find out who's starting, who's being replaced, who's up and coming and getting reps with the first string offense despite the fact they haven't actually appeared in a box score yet.

I disagree here, but I don't think your paradigm is wrong, just different from mine. The shark you are describing sounds more like an habitual and compulsive individual than a knowledgeable individual.

Probably.But most imporatantly the shark I'm describing is just willing to alot a certain amount of time/effort to FF and a board like this that normal people are not.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Draft 10 Players

Start 10 Players

No Trades & No Drop/Adds (No roster changes whatsoever)

Start 3-QB, 3-RB, 3-WR & 1 PK

I haven't been in anything like this league yet, but this is high-level sharky stuff. There is no room for error (carrying backups, waiver wire or free agents); the $1,000 pot comes down to who gets luckiest in regards to injuries.

Fixed.

Injuries are part of the game and I suspect every team would probably suffer at least one significant injury.

I'm just saying that with no backups (as in the survivor leagues) nor roster flexibility, a poorly timed injury can kill you. For example, last season, I lost Bulger and Griese on the same day. If that happens to you in a league like this, you have to pray your opponent loses a QB or two, or you're all but dead every week before the games even start.

 

[LHUCKS]

You can play the injury card all you want, but the fact of the matter is this...Brett Favre will be playing in more games than Kurt Warner this year.

 

[SuperJohn96]

Is this the first year for the league? If not, post last year's draft and I'll tell you exactly what to do.

I agree with this. I would love to see how their draft went!!

Hmmm...maybe I need to get the scoring and we can start our own 8 team league...just for ####s and giggles.Because the more I think about it, the more fascinated I am by this concept.

Team 1 - SuperJohn96

Team 2 -

Team 3 -

Team 4 -

Team 5 -

Team 6 -

Team 7 -

Team 8 -

money?

No of course not...

Wellp im in then. How are we going to do this? I mean like everybody throw in 10 bucks and go MFL or what?

I'll handle it. I have web space and I can do it all on Excel super easy...It won't be too crazy, just two Excel based web pages.

1 draft page, and one with all the rosters/weekly stats.

No money needed.

 

[SuperJohn96]

I'm just saying that with no backups (as in the survivor leagues) nor roster flexibility, a poorly timed injury can kill you. For example, last season, I lost Bulger and Griese on the same day. If that happens to you in a league like this, you have to pray your opponent loses a QB or two, or you're all but dead every week before the games even start.

You can play the injury card all you want, but the fact of the matter is this...Brett Favre will be playing in more games than Kurt Warner this year.

I think EG72 and LHUCKS need to be in on this...

 

[BlueOnion]

Count me in.

 

[Lobo237]

Interesting format. Definetely wouldn't want to do this for big money. Way too much luck involved for my taste, but I'm game to be in this experiment if you guys will have me.

 

[WisWolvrns]

If you are looking for an interested owner, I'd do it. The best part of the league is not having to put in starting lineups, waivers, etc... so it's pretty much a survivor type. We would need the scoring system and such too.

 

[dickey moe]

I'd like to try this for next season as a trial run -- I'd like to see how the draft shakes out and who comes out on top. If any of you get started, I'd appreciate it if you'd save me a spot.

 

[cws3030]

i'd be up for it.. let me know

 

[Football Jones Junior]

Is this the first year for the league?  If not, post last year's draft and I'll tell you exactly what to do.

I agree with this. I would love to see how their draft went!!

Hmmm...maybe I need to get the scoring and we can start our own 8 team league...just for ####s and giggles.Because the more I think about it, the more fascinated I am by this concept.

Team 1 - SuperJohn96

Team 2 -

Team 3 -

Team 4 -

Team 5 -

Team 6 -

Team 7 -

Team 8 -

money?

No of course not...

Wellp im in then. How are we going to do this? I mean like everybody throw in 10 bucks and go MFL or what?

I'll handle it. I have web space and I can do it all on Excel super easy...It won't be too crazy, just two Excel based web pages.

1 draft page, and one with all the rosters/weekly stats.

No money needed.

Sweet dude just lemme know about a draft date.

 

[murphyslaw]

I would never spend any amount of money on a league where 1-2 injuries in week 1 ends the entire season for you. That makes no sense at all. It's doesn't come down to who drafts the best. It comes down to who drafts the most players that don't get injured.

 

[pinda]

i'm in as well if there's room.

 

[Norseman]

Count me in if there's room.

 

[SuperJohn96]

I found out the full scoring...also 1 Point per CARRY....yikes...

SCORING    1 Pt = 25 PASSING YARDS6 Pt =  1 PASSING TD1 Pt =  1 RUSHING CARRY1 Pt = 25 RUSHING YARDS6 Pt =  1 RUSHING TD1 Pt =  1 RECEPTION1 Pt = 25 RECEIVING YARDS6 Pt =  1 RECEIVING TD3 Pt =  1 FIELD GOAL1 Pt =  1 EXTRA POINT

 

[SuperJohn96]

FFL 10-10 website

We just need to settle on a draft date.

Any suggestions?

 

[AnonymousBob]

The people who cry that injuries cannot be predicted are the same people who end up with Bulger, Foster, Fred Taylor, types year in and year out.. Face it bozos, some guys are more injury prone than others. Injuries themselves cannot be predicted but a players tendency to get hurt can be predicted.

 

[dickey moe]

FFL 10-10 website

We just need to settle on a draft date.

Any suggestions?

I'd prefer to have it as close as possible to the start of the regular season, to cut down the chances of getting screwed due to pre-season injury.

 

[cws3030]

i think with this kind of league the draft has to be as close to week 1 as possible.

since there are 3 of us on the waiting list, lets just try to get 5 more and have another league. anyone else have any interest?

 

[WisWolvrns]

I agree with closest to the regular season, albeit Labor Day weekend might be tough. Maybe Tuesday or Wednesday that week since it would be online? Figuring alot of us are probably tied up with live drafts the weekend of Labor Day.

 

[SuperJohn96]

i think with this kind of league the draft has to be as close to week 1 as possible.

since there are 3 of us on the waiting list, lets just try to get 5 more and have another league. anyone else have any interest?

If you can get another 5 teams, I will setup the page for that league too...

 

[Football Jones Junior]

FFL 10-10 website

We just need to settle on a draft date.

Any suggestions?

I think we should do it live, In the Mock forum. Anywho for the date Sunday August 27th?

 

[SuperJohn96]

FFL 10-10 website

We just need to settle on a draft date.

Any suggestions?

I think we should do it live, In the Mock forum. Anywho for the date Sunday August 27th?

Live draft would be pretty sweet...

 

[Miz4]

I'll give it a go if there is still room.

 

[Lobo237]

FFL 10-10 website

We just need to settle on a draft date.

Any suggestions?

I think we should do it live, In the Mock forum. Anywho for the date Sunday August 27th?

Live draft would be pretty sweet...

Agreed that live would be best.