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What a well reffed Super Bowl (1 Viewer)

shadyridr said:
I honestly dont remember a single call that I disagreed with.
The Toomer pushoff and Brady getting hit to the head as he delivered a pass, both were not called, I was surprised the hit to the head wasn't called since they call anything when you even touch a QB anywhere on his helmet...I'm also surprised nobody even mentioned that one after they replayed it on slo-mo too.Funny how everybody ripped the refs for calling a good game in the Pitt/Sea SB(the only blown call was the block by the QB on an interception) yet everyone is applauding these refs when they clearly missed a few calls...if people are going to be critical in one game then do it for every game...Having said that, I didn't see any calls in recent years that cost anyone a championship and that's nice to see, let the players decide the games and that's how it always should be.
I'm pretty sure what you think you saw didn't happen. I was at a house full of Patriot fans, not one mentioned anything about a hit to the head. The Toomer push off was a call that could have gone either way, as I've seen a lot of those go uncalled.
:lmao: Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. See a lot more posts below. On the reply it was blatant. Since Eli was intercepted a couple plays later, it was a wash as if Toomer gets called it would have been 3rd and 17ish and the Giants probably would have had to punt.I did forget about the Brady hit to the helmet, I was kind of surprised it wasn't called. I honestly didn't see the other calls mentioned that would have gone for the Giants, probably because they didn't show them on replay, like they did on Toomer's play and Brady's hit to the helmet.While there were some missed calls, there are always missed calls. Not every holding gets called, etc., but there weren't any game altering calls that I can remember, which is why I think it can be called a well ref'd game.
 
It was good to see that the refs didn't have any influence. Anything they missed wasn't of the "what the hell was that" variety and each side had a few they could point to but nothing that really effected the game. Two that I thought were missed was Rodney giving an elbow/forearm to the head of a Giant WR and the Pats getting called for a false start when the Giant Dlineman came out of his stance and caused it.
The Dlineman has to enter the neutral zone to cause a false start. He did not move forward.
 
Actually, I noticed a couple calls, but I think the fact that they didn't really mean anything might be why the complaints are very few. The first one I thought was bad was the long pass to Toomer early in the game. There was a ref right behind the play and it was a pretty obvious offensive PI on the replay. He shoved the CB back with a hand to the face to create separation. Eli threw an INT a couple plays later so it didn't matter.

The other one, which was awful was the measurements with about a minute and a half left. They basically gave the Giants 2 two timeouts. I also still don't get why they put time back on the clock to 1:28. Then on the play after that I hit rewind and counted from when the whistle blew to start the clock (clock didn't run) to when Manning got tackled and it was a way more than 8 seconds. Coughlin came out onto the field well after Eli recovered his own fumble to call the timeout. I still don't get how in the world that one play took only 8 seconds. You can run off 8 seconds on an imcomplete pass, let alone a QB dropping back, scrambling out and getting tackled. That said, the Giants still had more than enough time to score, but in this case without the play stoppage and free timeouts, it is conceivable that they would have had to spike the ball and the play calls might have been different.

I think there was some other minor calls, but for the most part I think they did a good job and the major misses probably didn't affect the outcome.
The ref is required by rule to stop the clock when making a measurement. What is awful about it?
Rule 4, Section 3, Article 7.

Supplemental Notes

The following situations are automatic Referee's times outs:

...

(2) Any possibility of a measurement for first down or in consulting a captain about one.
Okay, I understand and know that already.You are missing my point. In both cases, based on the spot it seemed pretty obvious the first one was short and the second one was a first down. While the refs stopped the clock on each occasion, the Giants were able to call a play and get to the line and neither time did they have to take a time out or lose a down by spiking the ball. Does that make sense?

Also, for some reason the clock got down to 1:22 after a play and all of a sudden they rewound it to 1:28 and it stopped even though the refs whistled it back into play. It then stayed at 1:28 for the entire time Eli dropped back and then ran forward and got tackled from behind. The Giants called timeout (you saw on the replay that Coughlin ran onto the field to call it because Eli was still on the ground since there was a little scrum because the ball came out after he hit the ground. I counted about 20 seconds (completely unofficial) between the ref blowing the start of the clock (with the arm wind) and Eli going to the ground/waiting for the TO signal. Even with all that time coming off, maybe not quite 20 seconds, the clock read 1:20 when the TO was called.

So, the clock was at 1:22 at one point after the Jacobs run, the Giants, without calling a TO, ran a pass play in which Eli tucked the ball and ran, was tackled from behind, and Coughlin ran out onto the field to call the TO because the scrum was eating extra time. Despite all this, the clock was at 1:20 after the TO, which probably would have been used after the Jacobs run.

Anyway, with 30+ seconds left after the Burress catch, the time elapsed didn't really matter although it is possible that the play calling changes a bit, who knows.

 
The TV clock was wrong for much of the night. Often in shots of the field, the actual game clock was as much as 90 seconds off when it was visible.

 

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