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Great point. If only Elway or Favre didnt throw so hard, they too would have had a chance to be good NFL QBs.
One difference...they know how to use their feet. Leftwich doesn't.
Oh yeah, just that one difference. But you have a point - Favre was always a great runner.Ok, sarcasm is over since it seemed to miss the mark. Are you REALLY blaming Leftwich's failures on the fact that he throws TOO HARD? Favre and Elway would break receivers fingers they threw so hard - both are Hall of Famers.The reason youd hate to be a receiver with Leftwich is his inability to get you the ball as would Favre or Elway. To say that you wouldnt want to be his receiver because he throws too hard is simply, nonsense.
Leftwich's adjusted sack rate has been below league average the past 3 years
Per drop back. His long release is a problem, or maybe he's just not that good anyway. I don't think his mobility plays any part in it.
Many people hate running QB's for some reason, but those rushing numbers make an average fantasy QB a decent starter.i've been scooping up Garrard in all my leagues as a backup.He'll be one of the top sleepers this season relative to his ADP.
Garrard was a below average fantasy QB when he played last year. He had 0 rushing TDs last season. He's not very good.Many people hate running QB's for some reason, but those rushing numbers make an average fantasy QB a decent starter.i've been scooping up Garrard in all my leagues as a backup.He'll be one of the top sleepers this season relative to his ADP.
What was his PPG last year? I was under the impression is was above average. Not great, but above average.Garrard was a below average fantasy QB when he played last year. He had 0 rushing TDs last season. He's not very good.Many people hate running QB's for some reason, but those rushing numbers make an average fantasy QB a decent starter.i've been scooping up Garrard in all my leagues as a backup.He'll be one of the top sleepers this season relative to his ADP.
im not bashing bro, but the part i bolded makes no sense.As a Jags fan...I'm hoping Del Rio IS a bus driver next year!
David Garrard is sacked MORE often than Byron Leftwich, so I'm not sure why Jags fans are that hopeful; nor should fantasy owners be.http://blog.footballguys.com/2007/09/01/th...byron-leftwich/
This may be especially in true in leagues that only award 4 pts/TD. The rushing numbers may bring him closer in value to many other QBs.
All QBs totaled 8453.30 FPs last year, in obviously 512 games. That's an average of 16.51 FP/G.Garrard played in 9.4 games last year and scored 142.8 FPs, for an average of 15.1 FP/G. And he did it while playing a (very) slightly easier than average schedule.What was his PPG last year? I was under the impression is was above average. Not great, but above average.Garrard was a below average fantasy QB when he played last year. He had 0 rushing TDs last season. He's not very good.
i've been scooping up Garrard in all my leagues as a backup.
He'll be one of the top sleepers this season relative to his ADP.
Are you serious? When did his coaches start believing in him? Last week????? That's not exactly a strong endorsement. He wasn't a great fantasy QB last year and I don't see any reason to think that he will be better this year.
well, the line doesn't exactly look good on its own either, whichever way you think it's leading.
Jimmy Smith was a very average WR in 05', i don't see how adding in an additional sample is misleading, if anything it is better to have a larger sample.In 05 he started 6 games and averaged 17.6 fantasy points per game.So basically he's been right around average over a 15-16 game sample size. He's also never entered a season as a starter which should make him more comfortable this season.He's extremely undervalued this year based on where most FBG staff have him ranked. If he averages 17 fantasy points he's a VERY good #2 QB on your fantasy team.
Jimmy Smith 2005 was way better than any WR on the 2007 Jaguars.
Does it sound like I'm kidding?
'not very good' is an upgrade for what Garrabage is. No owner in a league of 14 teams should even be looking at this guy other than a bye week filler....if he is still starting come Jax. bye week, which is 50-50. If you are in a league with less than 14 teams, well, that's obvious.Chase Stuart said:
Eli Manning was the #11 QB last year and only averaged 15 PPG.So even if Garrard doesn't improve at all on his 06' numbers (which i don't see any reason why he won't) he'll still be one of the best #2 QB's to have on your team.QB's Rushing is golden in FF, but ignored by most people for some reason.He is a very likely top 15 QB fantasy wise with upside.
You do know that New Orleans and Jax both have week 4 byes, don't you?Id
He also did it without an offense that was based around his talents, that featured little in the way of bootlegs or planned draws. I wouldnt imagine that will happen again.Chase Stuart said:All QBs totaled 8453.30 FPs last year, in obviously 512 games. That's an average of 16.51 FP/G.Garrard played in 9.4 games last year and scored 142.8 FPs, for an average of 15.1 FP/G. And he did it while playing a (very) slightly easier than average schedule.What was his PPG last year? I was under the impression is was above average. Not great, but above average.Chase Stuart said:Garrard was a below average fantasy QB when he played last year. He had 0 rushing TDs last season. He's not very good.Many people hate running QB's for some reason, but those rushing numbers make an average fantasy QB a decent starter.
i've been scooping up Garrard in all my leagues as a backup.
He'll be one of the top sleepers this season relative to his ADP.
Two seasons ago, Garrard carried my team on his back to a fantasy championship.| 13 cle | 11 20 116 2 1 | 9 13 0 || 14 ind | 26 35 250 1 0 | 5 19 1 || 15 sfo | 21 40 216 0 0 | 5 27 1 || 16 hou | 18 31 292 1 0 | 5 40 0 |Chase Stuart said:Garrard was a below average fantasy QB when he played last year. He had 0 rushing TDs last season. He's not very good.
Didn't he start 10 games last year? He had 0 rushing TDs. Of course that doesn't mean he'll have 0 this year, but it does provide some evidence that he isn't likely to get his number called at the goal line much. And, yes, he had 3 TDs the year before, but the Jags didn't have MJD then, and Taylor missed one of the games in which he scored.As to the larger question of his perceived value, I play in a 16 team league with short benches (9 starters, 5 bench players), and Garrard is on the waiver wire and no one has picked him up since the news of Leftwich's release. I have Romo & Losman and don't have room for a third QB on my bench... and, yes, I prefer both of them to Garrard. I am surprised some of the other teams haven't picked him up, though.Garrard averaged 14.25 fppg in his 10 games last year. As a point of comparison, Losman averaged 14.66 fppg over 16 games and finished 14th (FBG scoring). So top 15 seems reasonable.ETA: After reading and responding to this thread, I decided to drop my 5th WR and pick up Garrard. I figure in a 16 team league if he or Losman starts strong, I'll have a tradeable asset. So thanks for the discussion.
Yea, who wouldn't want those 214yds, 0TD, and 4INT he put up against Houston last season?
