Raiderfan32904
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RG3 is a fine garbage time QB. If the Redskin defense comes around and actually stops anyone in the first half, RG3 will be droppable. Looks like he'll be ok though.
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What did we learn from week 2? (1 Viewer)
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teamramrod
Footballguy
Oh hey Peyton, we were just talking about how a mobile quarterback who runs as much as he throws is the wave of the future.......
Peace
Shutout
Footballguy
That People were wrong about Foster.
Hold on! I know what you're going to say..."But..but...Tate has higher YPC. He's not scoring like he did, etc."
Don't compare FOster to 2010 Foster. Compare him to the league's RBs right now, this year, where it is important. Aside from the obvious darlings we knew coming in (ADP, McCoy, Charles), the only guys ahead of him are the guys we spent 90% of our off-season debating (Moreno, DMAC, McFadden).
I agree, it's not what we envisioned in our RBs, but as RBs go, (is this the new norm?), he is still as relatively value as a top 5 RB as he was.
Learned:
-Forte is the truth and might be the most valuable RB in the league to have in PPR (gets his in all facets and is durable...looks matchup proof right now).
-The TRICH thread seems way out of place. All those guys that were talking about how Norv was gonna do this and Norv was going to mean this...it's early but I'm sure TRICH owners are a bit disappointed right now.
-That those of us that spoke in realistic terms probably got the value out of the Denver backfield. Again, it's eraly, but after watching two games, its seems painfully obvious all along re: Moreno, Ball, Hillman.
All in all, it is probably too early to say definitively that we have "learned" this or that but the "trend" is there. THis was probably a bad year to put so much time and energy into trying to find the difference making RBs.
Hold on! I know what you're going to say..."But..but...Tate has higher YPC. He's not scoring like he did, etc."
Don't compare FOster to 2010 Foster. Compare him to the league's RBs right now, this year, where it is important. Aside from the obvious darlings we knew coming in (ADP, McCoy, Charles), the only guys ahead of him are the guys we spent 90% of our off-season debating (Moreno, DMAC, McFadden).
I agree, it's not what we envisioned in our RBs, but as RBs go, (is this the new norm?), he is still as relatively value as a top 5 RB as he was.
Learned:
-Forte is the truth and might be the most valuable RB in the league to have in PPR (gets his in all facets and is durable...looks matchup proof right now).
-The TRICH thread seems way out of place. All those guys that were talking about how Norv was gonna do this and Norv was going to mean this...it's early but I'm sure TRICH owners are a bit disappointed right now.
-That those of us that spoke in realistic terms probably got the value out of the Denver backfield. Again, it's eraly, but after watching two games, its seems painfully obvious all along re: Moreno, Ball, Hillman.
All in all, it is probably too early to say definitively that we have "learned" this or that but the "trend" is there. THis was probably a bad year to put so much time and energy into trying to find the difference making RBs.
teamramrod
Footballguy
Lions homer alert (me)
He runs hard and he runs hungry-if he doesnt play he doesnt get paid. The complete anti-prima dona.
That been said, he is an aweseome RB2 (on the team, not fantasy ranking), but with out Reggie to take some of the snaps and change the defense up, he will go back to being, well, Joique Bell.
Please little 9 pound 8 ounce Bebbe Jeezus, let Reggie's knee be ok.
Peace
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Foster and Tate will be a RBBC for the year. Debate all day who you think is better, looked sharper, etc., but it's working and both will be healthy if the RBBC continues.
One game does not a season make. Player blows up, next team watches film and shuts them down the next week. J. Cook is a good example this week; Jimmy Graham is the exception and was very much worth a first round pick.
Vick to D. Jackson is going to happen a lot. Vick looked sharp again and will continue to be a QB1.
MJD and the entire Jacksonville team is worthless.
RGIII won't last much longer IMO and is not elite.
This year's "gotta go RB/RB" advice from the experts was wrong. Drafting RB's from a mediocre offense will net you average points on good weeks, which won't happen as often as bad weeks. Regarding the experts, whatever they tell everyone to do, do the opposite.
Don't start anyone against Seattle at home.
One game does not a season make. Player blows up, next team watches film and shuts them down the next week. J. Cook is a good example this week; Jimmy Graham is the exception and was very much worth a first round pick.
Vick to D. Jackson is going to happen a lot. Vick looked sharp again and will continue to be a QB1.
MJD and the entire Jacksonville team is worthless.
RGIII won't last much longer IMO and is not elite.
This year's "gotta go RB/RB" advice from the experts was wrong. Drafting RB's from a mediocre offense will net you average points on good weeks, which won't happen as often as bad weeks. Regarding the experts, whatever they tell everyone to do, do the opposite.
Don't start anyone against Seattle at home.
Steeler
Footballguy
I'm looking at this from the other side of the ball. ATL held both of these guys below expectations so I'm not going to start any TEs against ATL if I can avoid it. Also, TB gave up points to the TE position in both weeks, so I might try to start TEs against them until they figure out how to slow them down.
jsharlan
Footballguy
You must not know Kubiak. Foster is in no danger of losing the lion's share of touches barring injury.
shader
Footballguy
In my main league, I have Ray Rice and Trent Richardson. I think now is the time to trade FOR those two rb's. Why?
Because I think this is the week people start to bail on them. Here is my analysis of the two, and why I'm holding in my main league and will look to acquire them in other leagues.
1. Ray Rice -- People have been warning about Pierce for awhile, and Pierce has been splitting carries with Rice. However, Pierce has been completely uneffective. Rice is the bellcow, Rice makes the big bucks, and Rice is going to get the ball. They aren't trying to phase Rice out, they are trying to keep Rice from getting too many carries. Assuming he comes back from the injury 100%, he's going to be just fine, especially in ppr leagues.
2. Trent -- The offense has been terrible. Without Josh Gordon, the wideouts provide no spark at all. But Gordon's return should open things up. Regardless, they have played a tough Miami defense and a very mad Ravens team who had 9 days to prepare for them. Despite those two facts, Trent has put up decent numbers in ppr. Not good, but decent. You have to think that the return of Gordon, an easier schedule, and the emergence of the TE will help Trent's numbers.
Because I think this is the week people start to bail on them. Here is my analysis of the two, and why I'm holding in my main league and will look to acquire them in other leagues.
1. Ray Rice -- People have been warning about Pierce for awhile, and Pierce has been splitting carries with Rice. However, Pierce has been completely uneffective. Rice is the bellcow, Rice makes the big bucks, and Rice is going to get the ball. They aren't trying to phase Rice out, they are trying to keep Rice from getting too many carries. Assuming he comes back from the injury 100%, he's going to be just fine, especially in ppr leagues.
2. Trent -- The offense has been terrible. Without Josh Gordon, the wideouts provide no spark at all. But Gordon's return should open things up. Regardless, they have played a tough Miami defense and a very mad Ravens team who had 9 days to prepare for them. Despite those two facts, Trent has put up decent numbers in ppr. Not good, but decent. You have to think that the return of Gordon, an easier schedule, and the emergence of the TE will help Trent's numbers.
Blick
Footballguy
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Sounds like you are trying to talk yourself off the ledge. I own both of them, but in different leagues thankfully. Glad I handcuffed Rice with Pierce, but that Rice pick will never return the value either in trade bait or actual fantasy points scored. You just have to suck it up and move on with plan B. And now Weeden is hurt, so we may see Jason Campbell as your starting Cleveland QB. Good luck with that, I'm sure you won't see 8 in the box too often.
timschochet
Footballguy
I know there is a rule in FF to "always start your studs", but I believe this year it does not apply to playing against Seattle in Seattle. I say that for the rest of the season, no matter how good your stars are, bench them if they're playing in Seattle.
lod01
Footballguy
Cyclones
Footballguy
Even still, that guy might be 1-1 (the guy in our league who took Brees went Morris/Brees/R. Bush, so he really doesn't apply to the rule, but he is 1-1.)
I went Charles/Rodgers/Julio and its working out so far
Which is totally contrary to what we saw in the preseason. I try not to take much away from the preseason but I let his lack of involvement in the passing game scare me away.
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