When the Giants received the kickoff before starting their last drive, what did you think their chances were that they'd score a TD?
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What Did You Think The Chances Were That NY Scored A TD On The Last Dr (1 Viewer)
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I'll be honest. I thought it was 30% tops.
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BaBastage
Footballguy
20% Here. I was conceding the game, expecting Eli to fall apart, finally.
Honestly, I wasn't disappointed, just resigned. The Giants played a hell of a game and had proven themselves the right to be in the Big Game.
But after the "Hat Trick", "Helmet Reception", or whatever catchy name eventually sticks, It shot up to 95% inevitable. You could feel it about to happen.
Gutsy, gutsy play, guys. Way to go.
Honestly, I wasn't disappointed, just resigned. The Giants played a hell of a game and had proven themselves the right to be in the Big Game.
But after the "Hat Trick", "Helmet Reception", or whatever catchy name eventually sticks, It shot up to 95% inevitable. You could feel it about to happen.
Gutsy, gutsy play, guys. Way to go.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Manning seems to always come up big in the 4th quarter. Even the last few years when he has been a mediocre QB he always seems to have some great 4th quarter comebacks. And without getting into the debate I think he is a better 4th quarter QB than his brother. That being said I didnt think they had much of a chance to drive 83 yds for a TD. I just thought the Pats would complete their perfect season. I said 20%.
pats3in4
Footballguy
I voted 10%. It's not like the score was 38-34. The Giants went 3-and-out on their previous drive. The Pats' blitz was getting good pressure most of the game and Eli was throwing quite a bit off his back foot. I didn't think he'd be able to string together an 83yd drive considering how the game played out to that point.
After that escape and throw to Tyree, the percentage jumped up to about 75%. That play killed me.
After that escape and throw to Tyree, the percentage jumped up to about 75%. That play killed me.
Burning Sensation
Footballguy
I voted 50%, but i also thought it was 60-70% that the Pats would follow it up with at least a game tying field goal. Thankfully i was wrong about the second part.
I went with 50%. I really had faith in Eli and Plax to connect big at some point and they hadn't yet. Smith and Toomer had continued to make excellent possession receptions converting first downs. On the other hand, the Patriots are solid defensively and you had to know that they were as prepared and ready as they could be. Dedication hug between the two LBs on the sideline.
Great drive and a great finish to an awesome game.
Great drive and a great finish to an awesome game.
If you asked me at the beginning of the drive, I'd have said 20% at best.
Eli Manning stepped up big, but the pass protection was so horrible on that drive (considering it was very good up to that point). Even in hindsight, I'd say 30% at best given the fact that their O Line was completely worn out.
Eli Manning stepped up big, but the pass protection was so horrible on that drive (considering it was very good up to that point). Even in hindsight, I'd say 30% at best given the fact that their O Line was completely worn out.
wadegarrett
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30%
shining path
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Mostly my thoughts too. Though I didn't think it was inevitable until after the Steve Smith sideline reception gave them first and 10 inside the 20 with forty seconds to go. But at the beginning of the drive I didn't think Eli had much of a chance to bring the Giants back. Good for him.
Smith's play was a fantastic play not getting nearly enough love. Fantastic play from the young WR there with his footwork and being aware of exactly where he was.J
0%.It took that one miracle play to keep the drive alive.
jonessed
Footballguy
They have to get yardage for it to be a drive. That's my official take anyway and I'm sticking to it.
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KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
No different than the Pats scoring on the drive before. I'd put the chances of either doing that around 30-35%.
scott72
Footballguy
Ditto. Told the wife it was Eli's chance to become a man, but deep down I didn't think he had much of a chance with Plax hurting and being doubled. Still can't get over that catch by Tiree. Simply amazing.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
50/50. But I'm biased.
All that kid does is win. Think about it: How many guys that come from a dominant program like USC waltz into a Super Bowl win his first year?
Koya
Footballguy
I put 40% - VERY optimistic number. But Eli's strength during his career had been the TD when the Giants needed one, especially at the end of the game. When Eli scored the td to Tyree (and for people saying how Eli didnt have any good plays, go look at THAT throw, and that drive for that matter) I sorta knew we would need another score, probably a TD.
Eli has been great in his young career pulling some rabbits from the hat, and I thought he really had a good chance then.
Of course, I figured in the last 35 seconds Brady would somehow get them in FG range.
Eli has been great in his young career pulling some rabbits from the hat, and I thought he really had a good chance then.
Of course, I figured in the last 35 seconds Brady would somehow get them in FG range.
Koya
Footballguy
He has had some KILLER drops - against Buffalo (redeemed) in the SB leading to the INT (but redeemed as well). If he can somehow get past the knack for a KILLER play, he has been awesome. Smith, Boss, Ross even Wilford had big impacts on this game and in these playoffs. Eli trusted Smith and he took 2 or 3 really big hits while holding onto the ball for KEY first downs.
nyftbl_giants
Footballguy
Hard to say as a giants fan. Never thought about it. The pats usually come up with the big TO or stop there, so in hindsight Id say no more than 30 %. Although when they showed that giant trainer of 60 years down on the field I got a funny feeling the football gods hadnt left the building.
bradyfan
Footballguy
The percentage always goes up for Eli when he trusts his instincts and not think too much.
Koya
Footballguy
Ill say this - I was more confident about that drive than I was about Tynes third FG attempt in GB. Just had a feeling. That's Eli's time and here it was, somehow, on the biggest stage of all.
BTW, HOLY COW. Sorry, still adjusting to actually winning that game. 35 seconds left. That's crazy. Wow.
BTW, HOLY COW. Sorry, still adjusting to actually winning that game. 35 seconds left. That's crazy. Wow.
As did I. In fact I said out loud when N.E. scored that the game was over.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Since they were either going to score, or not score, I said 50/50 
Tarkin
Grand Moff
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
I thought 60%, honestly. I figured that the Giants had played too well and things had set up for them at that point for a shocking win. It just seemed like a Giants' touchdown was the right thing to happen. And Eli didn't have that "Oh crap" look on his face when he jogged out to start the series. Of course, that 60% dropped to about .1% when Eli looked to get sacked and then went to 99% when Tyree made the catch.
What a freaking great game - I'm glad I got to see it.
What a freaking great game - I'm glad I got to see it.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
When NY took the lead 10-7, I was about 90% sure that NE would score a TD to retake the lead. They'd been sleepwalking through the whole game, but they always seem to come through in the clutch.
When NE did indeed retake the lead, I would have guessed there was a 20% or so chance that NY could match. I just figured Eli would throw a pick or take a big sack or something similar to effectively end the game.
I was very pleased with the outcome, but I have to admit that I would far prefer to have Tom Brady QBing my team with the game on the line over Eli.
When NE did indeed retake the lead, I would have guessed there was a 20% or so chance that NY could match. I just figured Eli would throw a pick or take a big sack or something similar to effectively end the game.
I was very pleased with the outcome, but I have to admit that I would far prefer to have Tom Brady QBing my team with the game on the line over Eli.
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
I voted 100 percent, because I had absolute faith in Eli and in this run.
Its completely ludicrious in retrospect, and I was definately disappointed when Moss scored, but I was buoyed about the time and time out situation. And as much as we should attach analysis over magic, I knew this unlikely run that culimated in the first 57 or so minutes of that game couldn't end on Corey Webster falling down out of nowhere. I thought it was poetic that they were down 4 and didn't have the net of a Field Goal. Eli has taken so many slings and arrows in his time with such grace and dignity and always just put his head down a played. Now, you could rightly argue early in his career that he should have actually picked his head up and lead, but as has been mentioned, he's always been at his best in the no huddle and 2 minute stuff.
Now, that should not imply I wasn't anxious on 4th and 1 or the 3rd and 5 miracle to Tyree, I was, but I never doubted and I've mentioned elsewhere, but it was the first time in my life as a fan that I"ve been positive and seen a positive result come of it.
And one final thought, I could have seen Eli being picked, the giants stopping them 3 and out, giving up a FG, being down 7 with a minute and half or so to go, and I still see them driving the field. I also could have seen NE getting into FG range in that final 30 seconds, but of course, none of that came to be. Eli did it in brillant fashion and he doesn't have to take a backseat to ANYONE, because in the last 2 games, he's taken out 2 hall of famers away from home in games they both REALLY wanted. Favre and Brady, thats some nice company to beat, and hopefully maybe join one day. I can't wait to see where this can springboard him to!
Its completely ludicrious in retrospect, and I was definately disappointed when Moss scored, but I was buoyed about the time and time out situation. And as much as we should attach analysis over magic, I knew this unlikely run that culimated in the first 57 or so minutes of that game couldn't end on Corey Webster falling down out of nowhere. I thought it was poetic that they were down 4 and didn't have the net of a Field Goal. Eli has taken so many slings and arrows in his time with such grace and dignity and always just put his head down a played. Now, you could rightly argue early in his career that he should have actually picked his head up and lead, but as has been mentioned, he's always been at his best in the no huddle and 2 minute stuff.
Now, that should not imply I wasn't anxious on 4th and 1 or the 3rd and 5 miracle to Tyree, I was, but I never doubted and I've mentioned elsewhere, but it was the first time in my life as a fan that I"ve been positive and seen a positive result come of it.
And one final thought, I could have seen Eli being picked, the giants stopping them 3 and out, giving up a FG, being down 7 with a minute and half or so to go, and I still see them driving the field. I also could have seen NE getting into FG range in that final 30 seconds, but of course, none of that came to be. Eli did it in brillant fashion and he doesn't have to take a backseat to ANYONE, because in the last 2 games, he's taken out 2 hall of famers away from home in games they both REALLY wanted. Favre and Brady, thats some nice company to beat, and hopefully maybe join one day. I can't wait to see where this can springboard him to!
Ed Wood
Footballguy
5%. I figured Manning would give it away somewhere along the line and he almost did twice:
1) Samuel's near pick
2) A throw that hit a NE player before Bradshaw (I think) nearly caught it at about the 15.
Then, after Helmet Head made his catch (how Manning got that ball even in Tyree's area code after his Houdini-esque escape, I'll never know), I upped it to about 20%.
Then, when I saw the Pats blitz, I knew there was Big Trouble Brewing in Beantown. I think you gotta have Manning work through 7 deep at that point. They'd been getting pretty decent pressure rushing 4 on that drive IMO.
Gotta give him big-time props.
1) Samuel's near pick
2) A throw that hit a NE player before Bradshaw (I think) nearly caught it at about the 15.
Then, after Helmet Head made his catch (how Manning got that ball even in Tyree's area code after his Houdini-esque escape, I'll never know), I upped it to about 20%.
Then, when I saw the Pats blitz, I knew there was Big Trouble Brewing in Beantown. I think you gotta have Manning work through 7 deep at that point. They'd been getting pretty decent pressure rushing 4 on that drive IMO.
Gotta give him big-time props.
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Pat Patriot
Footballguy
I voted 70%.
I hated the time left on the clock. 2:42 left on the clock meant that there was plenty of time for the Giants to score but if they did score, there would be limited time left for the Patriots to come back.
Even after the pounding that Brady and the Pats offense took, I would have felt much more confident with the ball in Brady's hands down by 3.
I was almost hoping that the Giants returned the kickoff for a TD to give the ball back to the offense.
It took a lot of great plays by the Giants on that last drive so congratulations to them.
I hated the time left on the clock. 2:42 left on the clock meant that there was plenty of time for the Giants to score but if they did score, there would be limited time left for the Patriots to come back.
Even after the pounding that Brady and the Pats offense took, I would have felt much more confident with the ball in Brady's hands down by 3.
I was almost hoping that the Giants returned the kickoff for a TD to give the ball back to the offense.
It took a lot of great plays by the Giants on that last drive so congratulations to them.
For me there was as the last possession was a kneel down.J
Koya
Footballguy
I just read that there are only two QBs that have ever passed for two 4th quarter TDs in a Super Bowl victory: Manning and Montana.
Not verified, but if true, interesting tidbit. Someone else mentioned that Eli had two 80+ yard drives leading to those TDs. That's exceptoinally impressive however you slice it.
Not verified, but if true, interesting tidbit. Someone else mentioned that Eli had two 80+ yard drives leading to those TDs. That's exceptoinally impressive however you slice it.
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