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That day will have to wait until he resurfaces down the road on another team.I agree with what you're implying here, but the Saints will likely never feed him the ball steadily.Having said that, New Orleans may need to rethink their offensive philosophy pretty quick here if they want to make some noise in 2012.
Real productive post.Thanks for your brilliant insight.He does not fit in this system. He is a highly talented RB. He is not getting into any kind of rhythm in this offense.If he got 20 carries.....a different tune would be sung about him. He did not forget how to play football.On a team like Pittsburgh.....who is dying for a feature back...he would kill it. He is not getting enough carries to be productive. He is a classic chain mover, and aback who would get better as the game wore on. He has great burst through the line. His first 10 yards are great. And that is what makes a great chain mover. He will not score long TD's. Again he is a classic chain mover. 4-5 yards a pop with some 15-20 yard scampers.But...we will never know until either The Saints play the kid....or he catches on with a new team in a couple of years.
I'm a huge Ingram fan (Bama Alum) and have had him on my team this year and last. I followed him all the way from his high school recruiting days and always thought he was an immense talent. However, I feel as if he isn't the same player he was in college and his style of play hasn't translated well to the NFL level. I also no longer see the much heralded 10-yard split, as he seems to lack burst off the hand off. I understand the logic that he is a back meant to produce at high volumes, and I completely understand the need to get into a rhythm. However, he has had multiple weeks where he has been the back with the most carries and has not produced well with them, and generally at a lesser level to the other NO backs. Given this fact and his talent, I have a hard time defending his results. If you are to be a starting NFL back, it is unreasonable to REQUIRE 20+ touches to have a productive day from both a fantasy and real life standpoint. Again, this is coming from an owner and long time fan so if anything my bias should tip my opinion to the other side of the scale.
You're slipping. It took you a whopping 17 posts before you got in here to bring your positive feedback.
Jets should have traded for Ingram, not Tebow.
sorry, I cant agree with this. I see a slow, plodding below average talent. Its not the system, its him
He's not going to be a stud in NO.
Thomas deserves more carries and touches, not sure why Ingram continues to even get carries at this point.
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What's cheap to you?
I'd definitely send a 2nd for him. Maybe a 1st if I was very confident my team was likely to go deep in the playoffs. An older "startable" guy if I had some positional depth. A flavor of the month like Alfred Morris.
Dayne had much better footwork but the comparison is good. I don't think Ingram will have near the career Dayne did though. Dayne had 3,700+ career rushing yards, Ingram will be lucky to get half that.
Every time they sub him in, the Saints are ringing the dinner bell to the opposing defense that it is going to be a run. It would be interesting to see the ratio of offensive snaps to rushes for Ingram. It just seems like the defense is keying in on him because they know what is coming.I don't recall the exact number, but IIRC, it's around 65%.
That's pretty crazy considering they run 27% of the time. Last game the only hole I saw for him was called back by holding. Other than that the line was stuffed. I see some space for the others. When Ingram gets the ball its like the defense has 15 guys.I don't recall the exact number, but IIRC, it's around 65%.
This happened a few times last year when NO had a few injuries at RB. The dude can catch, I just wish he had the chance to show it more often.
Yup I do remember a game last year where he had a decent amount of catches. It just doesn't make sense why they don't let him do it more. 8/98 is a really good line for him receiving wise. The rushing yards weren't quite there yesterday, but he did only have 9 carries.
Not sure but he wouldn't have done less. Spiller is dynamic in the role Ingram played yesterday.
He actually had over 100 (bonus!) until the next to last play where he caught it for a negative 4. Cost me 4 points.....
I think you meant "with a healthy Spiller", right? That's exactly what I'm wondering. I suspect most of Ingram's passing targets yesterday would have gone to Spiller if he'd been available.
