That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEARB LaDainian Tomlinson, SDWR Donald Driver, GBforQB Tony Romo, DALRB Laurence Maroney, NEWR Marvin Harrison, INDThe guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.
today a guy in my 16 team league got leinart and r. bush for tomlinson
Because you don't veto a trade you don't agree with. Here is a little something for you to consider. Insert Shaun Alexander for LT into above and pretend it's week 3 in 2006. Who got cleaned out by season's end?That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEARB LaDainian Tomlinson, SDWR Donald Driver, GBforQB Tony Romo, DALRB Laurence Maroney, NEWR Marvin Harrison, INDThe guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.
that's beyond horrible unless you get huge bonus pts for getting stuffed at the goal line.today a guy in my 16 team league got leinart and r. bush for tomlinson
The owner receiving LT (joining PManning) is also the commish. I'm the co-commish. I teased him about the trade but thought about it a little more. Harrison is still likely a top 10 WR this year. Maroney is at least a top 20 RB. Romo *could* end up a top 5 QB. There's no guarantee that LT is going to do better, but most people think he will (including me). Personally, I think it's a bad trade for the guy giving up LT but I don't know that it should be vetoed since I don't believe the first owner (giving up LT) was trying to unbalance the league. He needed another good WR (just lost AJohnson) though he had TO already, he had little else. He has MJD, JLewis, and LJordan for RBs so he had depth there. I *do* think the owner who got LT is getting a steal and I'm terrified to play him now. Manning and LT? Fuuuuuddddgggee. But, I'm hoping SJAX will turn it around soon and start doing better at that time, too.Because you don't veto a trade you don't agree with. Here is a little something for you to consider. Insert Shaun Alexander for LT into above and pretend it's week 3 in 2006. Who got cleaned out by season's end?That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEARB LaDainian Tomlinson, SDWR Donald Driver, GBforQB Tony Romo, DALRB Laurence Maroney, NEWR Marvin Harrison, INDThe guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.
Because you only veto trades that are based on collusion.That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...
QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEA
RB LaDainian Tomlinson, SD
WR Donald Driver, GB
for
QB Tony Romo, DAL
RB Laurence Maroney, NE
WR Marvin Harrison, IND
The guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.
I have LT along with Portis and Peterson. At receiver I have Harrison, A. Johnson, L. Evans as my top 3 drafted .... as hurting as i am right now I wouldn't even consider a trade like that for a second .... wouldn't even read the offer twice.The owner receiving LT (joining PManning) is also the commish. I'm the co-commish. I teased him about the trade but thought about it a little more. Harrison is still likely a top 10 WR this year. Maroney is at least a top 20 RB. Romo *could* end up a top 5 QB. There's no guarantee that LT is going to do better, but most people think he will (including me). Personally, I think it's a bad trade for the guy giving up LT but I don't know that it should be vetoed since I don't believe the first owner (giving up LT) was trying to unbalance the league. He needed another good WR (just lost AJohnson) though he had TO already, he had little else. He has MJD, JLewis, and LJordan for RBs so he had depth there. I *do* think the owner who got LT is getting a steal and I'm terrified to play him now. Manning and LT? Fuuuuuddddgggee. But, I'm hoping SJAX will turn it around soon and start doing better at that time, too.Because you don't veto a trade you don't agree with. Here is a little something for you to consider. Insert Shaun Alexander for LT into above and pretend it's week 3 in 2006. Who got cleaned out by season's end?That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEARB LaDainian Tomlinson, SDWR Donald Driver, GBforQB Tony Romo, DALRB Laurence Maroney, NEWR Marvin Harrison, INDThe guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.
Is he an alcoholic, stoner, or just an idiot??????today a guy in my 16 team league got leinart and r. bush for tomlinson
So? Good for you. There's a lot of idiots out there. Though I wouldn't even say that was a terrible trade (and I own LT as well). Just because somebody makes a trade that YOU wouldn't make doesn't mean it should be vetoed. This is why I hate leagues where the league can vote on trade approvals. Just get a competent commish and be done with it.I have LT along with Portis and Peterson. At receiver I have Harrison, A. Johnson, L. Evans as my top 3 drafted .... as hurting as i am right now I wouldn't even consider a trade like that for a second .... wouldn't even read the offer twice.The owner receiving LT (joining PManning) is also the commish. I'm the co-commish. I teased him about the trade but thought about it a little more. Harrison is still likely a top 10 WR this year. Maroney is at least a top 20 RB. Romo *could* end up a top 5 QB. There's no guarantee that LT is going to do better, but most people think he will (including me). Personally, I think it's a bad trade for the guy giving up LT but I don't know that it should be vetoed since I don't believe the first owner (giving up LT) was trying to unbalance the league. He needed another good WR (just lost AJohnson) though he had TO already, he had little else. He has MJD, JLewis, and LJordan for RBs so he had depth there. I *do* think the owner who got LT is getting a steal and I'm terrified to play him now. Manning and LT? Fuuuuuddddgggee. But, I'm hoping SJAX will turn it around soon and start doing better at that time, too.Because you don't veto a trade you don't agree with. Here is a little something for you to consider. Insert Shaun Alexander for LT into above and pretend it's week 3 in 2006. Who got cleaned out by season's end?That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEARB LaDainian Tomlinson, SDWR Donald Driver, GBforQB Tony Romo, DALRB Laurence Maroney, NEWR Marvin Harrison, INDThe guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.
Wow. As an LT owner, this is the one trade I'd consider out of all these posted here, assuming other factors involved. (I already have Brady and Gates so no needs there...)Personally I'm with the camp that believes LT will come back around, hopefully starting this week.I traded Tomlinson for James, Gates, and Palmer.
I guess you haven't watched the Packers defense this year . . . I see another long day in store for LT . . .Fantasy Fix Fred said:LT owner here..I was offered TO and Addai after week #1. I thought about it, but I'm 2-0 w/LT doing squat and i'm not panicing yet. LT is going to shred the pack this week
Wrong.Spike said:Because you only veto trades that are based on collusion.mt99808 said:That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?gurp13 said:In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...
QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEA
RB LaDainian Tomlinson, SD
WR Donald Driver, GB
for
QB Tony Romo, DAL
RB Laurence Maroney, NE
WR Marvin Harrison, IND
The guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.
Sometimes the best deals are the ones that never happen. I think you'll end up dancing in the street having LT for the rest of the year.After week one I offered LT and Welker for Addai and CJ or Holt. He didn't bite.
Why is that wrong? You don't allow stupid trades to take place in your league? If there is some moron that is constantly making idiotic trades then you need to A) be the first to take advantage of him and B) not invite him back next year. This whole veto something to protect you from yourself is downright insulting. What if LT doesn't turn it around? Will the person who tried to get rid of him early in the year still look like an idiot? Some people think LT will rebound to perform like he did last season and others think they can sell him right now for more than he's worth. Who are you to impose YOUR values onto other owners?Wrong.Spike said:Because you only veto trades that are based on collusion.mt99808 said:That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?gurp13 said:In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...
QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEA
RB LaDainian Tomlinson, SD
WR Donald Driver, GB
for
QB Tony Romo, DAL
RB Laurence Maroney, NE
WR Marvin Harrison, IND
The guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.
I have no problem with that deal not going down. I'm 2-0 and my team is in good shape.Sometimes the best deals are the ones that never happen. I think you'll end up dancing in the street having LT for the rest of the year.After week one I offered LT and Welker for Addai and CJ or Holt. He didn't bite.
Ward had what 90 rush yards? LT will be fine.I guess you haven't watched the Packers defense this year . . . I see another long day in store for LT . . .Fantasy Fix Fred said:LT owner here..I was offered TO and Addai after week #1. I thought about it, but I'm 2-0 w/LT doing squat and i'm not panicing yet. LT is going to shred the pack this week
depends on the league, but if you want to argue your point, you'll have an uphill battle around here.Wrong.Spike said:Because you only veto trades that are based on collusion.mt99808 said:That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?gurp13 said:In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...
QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEA
RB LaDainian Tomlinson, SD
WR Donald Driver, GB
for
QB Tony Romo, DAL
RB Laurence Maroney, NE
WR Marvin Harrison, IND
The guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.
:IBTLPeople seem to be seriously underestimating the Packers defense this year.
If I had LT I would keep him! Alot of RB's are starting out slow, seems alot of rushing DT's are good this year but Bengals/Browns that score was unreal tells ya something. After week 4 gets easy a bit for LT.gman06 said:I have LT and have started 0-2. If I start 0-3, I will seriously think about trading LT. Has anybody traded him? If so, what have you received in return.
I meant in regard to touchdowns.People seem to be seriously underestimating the Packers defense this year.Derrick Ward: 15/90, 6.0 ypcBrian Westbrook: 20/85, 4.3 ypcNot exactly stout against the run. Not porous, but not great. I think LT is a better runner than these two. If he doesn't get over 100 rushing, I'll become a little concerned.
Westbrook. 4.3 is probably about right against this defense, but the Pack also had to be worried about the Eagles passing game ( or thought they did in week 1 ).Ward. No game tape. They had no idea how to approach preparing for this guy ( see Deshawn Wynn ). This happens almost every time a backup RB with even mediocre talent starts his first game. Admittedly I don't know much about Ward, but the little amount that I've seen didn't make him look like the next MJD. He'll never see 6.0 again. The pack **should** do the same thing the Pats did, because it works. Harp on LT and Gates and make Rivers beat them, which he doesn't seem like he can right now. LT will improve off of his last couple of performances, and probably get a TD somehow, but I'd put his YPC around 3 - 3.5, putting him around 70-80 on the day.If he doesn't break 100, I'd be concerned, yes. Hell, I'm concerned now, but not because of LT's ability, but because right now the Pats have shown the entire league how to shut down this offense. Until Rivers, Vincent, and crew can start scaring defenses, LT's in for some tough games. KC in week 4 looks promising, but Denver in 5 and Oak in 6 are a little in the air. It really could be week 8 in Houston before we see his first monster game.That said, you still don't trade him, because there is **no way** you're getting your money's worth.People seem to be seriously underestimating the Packers defense this year.Derrick Ward: 15/90, 6.0 ypcBrian Westbrook: 20/85, 4.3 ypcNot exactly stout against the run. Not porous, but not great. I think LT is a better runner than these two. If he doesn't get over 100 rushing, I'll become a little concerned.
Why is that wrong? You don't allow stupid trades to take place in your league? If there is some moron that is constantly making idiotic trades then you need to A) be the first to take advantage of him and B) not invite him back next year. This whole veto something to protect you from yourself is downright insulting. What if LT doesn't turn it around? Will the person who tried to get rid of him early in the year still look like an idiot? Some people think LT will rebound to perform like he did last season and others think they can sell him right now for more than he's worth. Who are you to impose YOUR values onto other owners?Wrong.Spike said:Because you only veto trades that are based on collusion.mt99808 said:That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?gurp13 said:In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...
QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEA
RB LaDainian Tomlinson, SD
WR Donald Driver, GB
for
QB Tony Romo, DAL
RB Laurence Maroney, NE
WR Marvin Harrison, IND
The guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.
I offered the LT owner the choice of two between Thomas Jones, Adrian Peterson, and Jamal Lewis and his choice of one Galloway, Cotchery, and Driver for LT, Eric Johnson, and Hank Baskett. He's seriously considering because he could use RB depth and a #2 WR.
The LT owner should be slapped in he makes that trade. That said, if he's actually considering it then you should sweeten the pot and get that steal done with before LT has a regular game and the owner comes to his senses. And congratulations if you actually pull it off!!I offered the LT owner the choice of two between Thomas Jones, Adrian Peterson, and Jamal Lewis and his choice of one Galloway, Cotchery, and Driver for LT, Eric Johnson, and Hank Baskett. He's seriously considering because he could use RB depth and a #2 WR.How do you sleep at night?
If the commissioner in that league is worth anything, he vetoes that trade without discussion.The LT owner should be slapped in he makes that trade. That said, if he's actually considering it then you should sweeten the pot and get that steal done with before LT has a regular game and the owner comes to his senses. And congratulations if you actually pull it off!!I offered the LT owner the choice of two between Thomas Jones, Adrian Peterson, and Jamal Lewis and his choice of one Galloway, Cotchery, and Driver for LT, Eric Johnson, and Hank Baskett. He's seriously considering because he could use RB depth and a #2 WR.How do you sleep at night?
Depends on the league. That is the prevailing "wisdom" on these boards, but not every league has 100% competent owners.A couple of hideous trades can ruin a dynasty league.Why is that wrong? You don't allow stupid trades to take place in your league? If there is some moron that is constantly making idiotic trades then you need to A) be the first to take advantage of him and B) not invite him back next year. This whole veto something to protect you from yourself is downright insulting. What if LT doesn't turn it around? Will the person who tried to get rid of him early in the year still look like an idiot? Some people think LT will rebound to perform like he did last season and others think they can sell him right now for more than he's worth. Who are you to impose YOUR values onto other owners?Wrong.Spike said:Because you only veto trades that are based on collusion.mt99808 said:That guy got cleaned out. How did that not get vetoed?gurp13 said:In my league (8 team redraft ppr) the trade was...
QB Matt Hasselbeck, SEA
RB LaDainian Tomlinson, SD
WR Donald Driver, GB
for
QB Tony Romo, DAL
RB Laurence Maroney, NE
WR Marvin Harrison, IND
The guy that got LT also has Peyton Manning.Hear Hear! It is nobody's business to veto a trade that they don't think is a good trade. It's between the two owners making the trade. The ONLY time a trade should be vetoed is when it is demonstrably collusion - and this should be decided upon by a competent commissioner, not majority vote of the league.
I've seen plenty of 'unfair' trades vetoed that would have resulted in the so-called loser coming off far better. If someone is acting on a hunch, who are you to stop it? NOBODY can predict the future, so don't even try. Only collusion is vetoed (by the commish) in my league.
5-6 weeks from now?? I'm laughing now!!Banger said:a lot of people are going to laugh at these threads 5-6 weeks from now.
Are you kidding??!! That's a steal.Keep in mind that Turner could easily be a top 8 RB next year when he's starting for the Packers! You made out like a bandit!In my dynasty league today my team got a lot younger. I traded a boatload to get LT on my squad.I gave Portis,Lewis,Fitzgerald and Dunn and..I received LT,Turner,Coles,and a throw in player that I waived and picked up Morris to back up Morency.My new starting lineup this week is going to be..Palmer,Carson QB CIN Tomlinson,LaDainian RB SD Peterson,Adrian RB MIN Owens,Terrell WR DAL Johnson,Calvin WR DET Shockey,Jeremy UT NYG Gates,Antonio TE SD Vinatieri,Adam PK IND Patterson,Mike DL PHI Williams,Kevin DL MIN Ruud,Barrett LB TB McIntosh,Roger LB WAS Winfield,Antoine DB MIN Taylor,Sean DB WAS It was alot to give up to get LT on my team but I feel good about it.
Your over rating the Packers defense and underestimating LT. LT returns to form this week.I guess you haven't watched the Packers defense this year . . . I see another long day in store for LT . . .Fantasy Fix Fred said:LT owner here..I was offered TO and Addai after week #1. I thought about it, but I'm 2-0 w/LT doing squat and i'm not panicing yet. LT is going to shred the pack this week
Like I said, I feel good about it. It was however tough to give up crazy depth at RB and a WR like Fitz. Ive essentially handed over both my RB2 and WR2 spots to Rookies.Are you kidding??!! That's a steal.Keep in mind that Turner could easily be a top 8 RB next year when he's starting for the Packers! You made out like a bandit!In my dynasty league today my team got a lot younger. I traded a boatload to get LT on my squad.I gave Portis,Lewis,Fitzgerald and Dunn and..I received LT,Turner,Coles,and a throw in player that I waived and picked up Morris to back up Morency.My new starting lineup this week is going to be..Palmer,Carson QB CIN Tomlinson,LaDainian RB SD Peterson,Adrian RB MIN Owens,Terrell WR DAL Johnson,Calvin WR DET Shockey,Jeremy UT NYG Gates,Antonio TE SD Vinatieri,Adam PK IND Patterson,Mike DL PHI Williams,Kevin DL MIN Ruud,Barrett LB TB McIntosh,Roger LB WAS Winfield,Antoine DB MIN Taylor,Sean DB WAS It was alot to give up to get LT on my team but I feel good about it.