Osi Umenyiora said itSome people were saying you have to earn that nickname and he would be Bob Griffin until he did. I forget who.Didn't he earn the nickname "RG3" by having the name Robert Griffin III?RG3 has not only earned his nickname, but by the start of rookie drafts next year we might be comparing all rookie quarterbacks to him and his records.
ThanksOsi Umenyiora said itSome people were saying you have to earn that nickname and he would be Bob Griffin until he did. I forget who.Didn't he earn the nickname "RG3" by having the name Robert Griffin III?RG3 has not only earned his nickname, but by the start of rookie drafts next year we might be comparing all rookie quarterbacks to him and his records.
Since Collie didn't play, I don't understand how you learned this in week 1.Whether Collie is there or not, old man Reggie Wayne is still going to get his.
I thought they game planned quite well actually. Haden kept desean from taking the top off the defense. He contained him. And they intercepted Vick 4 times. Id say that was pretty good planning and execution. If their offense was able to muster anything at all they could have won that game.My bad I forgot the Browns never make a mistake when it comes to game planning. That is why they have been so good for the last 10 years.ask the Browns who the better WR is, they used Joe Haden to shadow DeSean Jackson so I think we know their opinionExactly, Maclin runs better routes, and just looks like a better receiver.Stats aside, Maclin took a beating today and still looked like the best WR on the field. He's the Eagles best WR.And 19 more yards then djax doesn't really qualify as "by far"
Garcon played a total of 12 offensive plays before getting hurt and had 4/109/1. He could be huge this year.Correct me if I am wrong but didn't all of Garcon's yards come on pretty much one play and all of them in the first half?
The Chicago Sun Times confirms Michael Bush will continue to be the Bears' goal-line back, "whether (Matt) Forte likes it or not."Bush also dipped into Forte's open-field carries in Sunday's Opening Day win over the Colts, rushing 12 times including his two goal-line scores. Forte finished with 19 touches. "It’s good to have a player like Michael, period, all over the field," coach Lovie Smith said. "That’s why we brought him in here." Expect this to be more of a committee backfield going forward.Related: Michael BushSource: Chicago Sun-Timeshe scored a td and looked amazingI'm reading this as, "If you don't have Forte in full point PPR, sell." He looked amazing to me. The presence of Michael Bush in non-PPR leagues will drive Forte owners nuts all season. In non-PPR, I'd sell now and get out on a high note if you can get alot for him.huh? forte looked awesomeNew England may have drafted the two best defensive players in this years draft with Jones/Hightower.Wes Welkers days as a fantasy stud are over.Kenny Britt will have a HUGE season if the titans play calling stays that aggresive all season.Dwill is worthless.Benson is worthless.Brandon Marshall is going to dominate.Time to cash out on Forte if you have him. RGIII to Garcon is going to be a sweet hook-up all year.Rashad Jennings... we barely knew ya, kid.
That is QUITE the statement.Cam Newton is a stud but his WR corps is avg and his OL is well below avg.
Randall Cobb is the Percy Harvin of the Packers offense.
Peyton Manning isn't done.
Brandon Weeden is a bum. RGIII is a phenom.
Mark Sanchez isn't going to roll over for TT.
CJ Spiller is on the same level as prime Jamaal Charles/Chris Johnson.
Chandler Jones may be the biggest star in his family.
Reggie Wayne and Pierre Garcon were THE value plays at WR this season.
Julio Jones and Matt Ryan will both push for top 5 status in their positions.
He also cost mccoy 50 yards with 2 stupid penalties. And was injured/headed to the locker room 3 times. i love maclin, but I'd say after today it still looks as though they're pretty close.Stats aside, Maclin took a beating today and still looked like the best WR on the field. He's the Eagles best WR.And 19 more yards then djax doesn't really qualify as "by far"
2011 49ers rush D: 1236 yards(#1 in NFL)2011 Titans rush D: 2053 yards(#24 in NFL)I think this might have something to do with that.After last season I thought that GB and NEP (others too) would try to get more of a running game so that they could control the ball; after this week I think NEP gets it, GB hasn't.
Uh...what?'Voice Of Reason said:Shanahan is a terrible head coach and is the only thing that will stop RG3 from being an elite fantasy QB.
At this pace, around midway through Game 3.'doeseatplace said:Chris Johnson is guaranteed to break double digit rushing yards at some point this season
Uh...what?'Voice Of Reason said:Shanahan is a terrible head coach and is the only thing that will stop RG3 from being an elite fantasy QB.
his playcalling was absolutely terrible\they ran it for over 40 times for 3.5 a pop vs Griffin's 26 pass attempts, got so incredibly conservative with the lead that gave the Saints a chance to come back when the Saints were thoroughly outplayed for the entire game.Uh...what?'Voice Of Reason said:Shanahan is a terrible head coach and is the only thing that will stop RG3 from being an elite fantasy QB.
says the new orleans fan who's team was dominated by a rookie quarterback starting his first NFL game in the superdome.his playcalling was absolutely terribleUh...what?'Voice Of Reason said:Shanahan is a terrible head coach and is the only thing that will stop RG3 from being an elite fantasy QB.
yes, the game should not have been nearly as close as it wassays the new orleans fan who's team was dominated by a rookie quarterback starting his first NFL game in the superdome.his playcalling was absolutely terribleUh...what?'Voice Of Reason said:Shanahan is a terrible head coach and is the only thing that will stop RG3 from being an elite fantasy QB.
Not sure what this is based on, but other than being a little too conservative on the series before the end of the half(resulting in the blocked punt) I absolutely loved the playcalling and schemes today from Shanny. They came out throwing a ton of short passes(RG was 6/6 on the first drive) and then hit them with the big play on the second series. It was such a great way to get RG3 some confidence early on and to surprise an opponent who didn't at all seem to be expecting an onslaught of short passes during the first series. After they got out to a lead, they came back with the running game and Morris had a solid day. I thought they were very well balanced and kept N.O. totally guessing all day long. I particularly loved late in the game on 2nd down when they were trying to run the clock out(think it was their 2nd to last possession) and they went play action....so many coaches go run/run/pass and end up going 3 and out in those situations.'Voice Of Reason said:Shanahan is a terrible head coach and is the only thing that will stop RG3 from being an elite fantasy QB.
I'll give you Santana Moss, but I bet we don't hear a lot about Santana Holmes this season.A lot of names of guys many thought whose best games were behind them will continue to prove they are vastly better than their ADP this year:
Mark Sanchez
Peyton Manning
Frank Gore
Willis McGahee
Reggie Bush
Steve Smith
Reggie Wayne
Santana Holmes (and I'd wager the other Santana [Moss] too in the coming weeks)
Marques Colston
Tony Gonzalez
Greg Olsen
Owen Daniels
Heath Miller
Brent Celek
what they should have done and what they did isn't all that different...yes, the game should not have been nearly as close as it wassays the new orleans fan who's team was dominated by a rookie quarterback starting his first NFL game in the superdome.his playcalling was absolutely terribleUh...what?'Voice Of Reason said:Shanahan is a terrible head coach and is the only thing that will stop RG3 from being an elite fantasy QB.
I really like the WR screen over and over again to start the game. Adjust only after the defense proves they can stop it.The 2nd half series before the punt block was terrible. Despite moving the ball at will they ran the clock out with 2 minutes and at least 2 of the 3 timeouts remaining. Running the ball when it was so ineffective vs letting Griffin pass is just poor playcalling imo. 44 runs vs a 20-26 passer with at least 3 reciever drops is what let the Saints back into the game.ETA: 10 of the runs were Griffin's carries, but I recall at least half of those were designed runsNot sure what this is based on, but other than being a little too conservative on the series before the end of the half(resulting in the blocked punt) I absolutely loved the playcalling and schemes today from Shanny. They came out throwing a ton of short passes(RG was 6/6 on the first drive) and then hit them with the big play on the second series. After they got out to a lead, they came back with the running game and did a great job moving the ball. I thought they were very well balanced and kept N.O. totally guessing all day long.'Voice Of Reason said:Shanahan is a terrible head coach and is the only thing that will stop RG3 from being an elite fantasy QB.
we can nit pick every single game like this... but to me it seems like a jaded saints fan just watched his team lose and wants to rain on the winning team's parade.I really like the WR screen over and over again to start the game. Adjust only after the defense proves they can stop it.The 2nd half series before the punt block was terrible. Despite moving the ball at will they ran the clock out with 2 minutes and at least 2 of the 3 timeouts remaining. Running the ball when it was so ineffective vs letting Griffin pass is just poor playcalling imo. 44 runs vs a 20-26 passer with at least 3 reciever drops is what let the Saints back into the game.ETA: 10 of the runs were Griffin's carries, but I recall at least half of those were designed runsNot sure what this is based on, but other than being a little too conservative on the series before the end of the half(resulting in the blocked punt) I absolutely loved the playcalling and schemes today from Shanny. They came out throwing a ton of short passes(RG was 6/6 on the first drive) and then hit them with the big play on the second series. After they got out to a lead, they came back with the running game and did a great job moving the ball. I thought they were very well balanced and kept N.O. totally guessing all day long.'Voice Of Reason said:Shanahan is a terrible head coach and is the only thing that will stop RG3 from being an elite fantasy QB.
i'm not sold on Spiller....once the Jets got up their D relaxed a bit. The way Fitzpatrick is playing teams will pack the box.LOL Jon Jones has been on Jay Leno, he's the light-heavy weight champ. At worst, #3 pound for pound fighter in the sport. He's got a K-Swiss shoe on the way, an endorsement deal with Nike, Chandler Jones better become the next LT if he wants to the biggest star.Def agree about Reggie Wayne. Collie can't get healthy and if he does, he's one hit away from being out again. Wayne almost hit the 1000 yard mark last year with Collins/Painter. He was very undervalued this year.I still think Roddy White is Ryan's top target. Julio/Roddy kinda reminds me of Dez/Austin. New kid on the block, physical freak vs the vet who has more reps with their quarterback. Doug Martin looks good, once the game slows down for him and he sees or gets to the hole a little faster he could have some huge runs.'LawFitz said:Cam Newton is a stud but his WR corps is avg and his OL is well below avg.Randall Cobb is the Percy Harvin of the Packers offense.Peyton Manning isn't done.Brandon Weeden is a bum. RGIII is a phenom.Mark Sanchez isn't going to roll over for TT.CJ Spiller is on the same level as prime Jamaal Charles/Chris Johnson.Chandler Jones may be the biggest star in his family.Reggie Wayne and Pierre Garcon were THE value plays at WR this season.Julio Jones and Matt Ryan will both push for top 5 status in their positions.
Except Dez has 1 100 yard game in 28 starts and Julio has 6 in 14.'LawFitz said:I still think Roddy White is Ryan's top target. Julio/Roddy kinda reminds me of Dez/Austin. New kid on the block, physical freak vs the vet who has more reps with their quarterback.
You're so clueless, it's laughable.1. Kyle Shanahan calls the plays, not the head coach Mike Shanahan.2. Griffin had such a great debut passing the ball partially because his fake handoff is just sick. You can't utilize play-action fakes or misdirection if you don't actually...you know...prove that you will run the ball.3. One of the biggest criticisms of Kyle's play calling from skins fans the past two years has been that he actually gets TOO pass happy, regardless of game situation or the fact that we HAD mediocre QB's hucking the rock around the whole time. Now he works hard to establish the run to control the clock in a game not nearly as close as the score makes it look, and that's a bad thing?4. Putting the ball in the hands of a rookie QB 30-35+ times, even a guy like RG3, is just asking for trouble. It's smart to mix in a strong run game to take the pressure off of him, to allow the PA pass to work well, and to shorten the game (although this didn't happen because the saints didnt run at all). 5. Take a look at the final score and the TOP throughout the game. The gameplan was fine, and the Skins out-executed the Saints.Shanahan is the symbol of what's RIGHT with this team as we enter a new era with a completely revamped roster and a totally different team culture. He's our leader, and his son is a bright young offensive mind who called a pretty great game.I really like the WR screen over and over again to start the game. Adjust only after the defense proves they can stop it.The 2nd half series before the punt block was terrible. Despite moving the ball at will they ran the clock out with 2 minutes and at least 2 of the 3 timeouts remaining. Running the ball when it was so ineffective vs letting Griffin pass is just poor playcalling imo. 44 runs vs a 20-26 passer with at least 3 reciever drops is what let the Saints back into the game.ETA: 10 of the runs were Griffin's carries, but I recall at least half of those were designed runsNot sure what this is based on, but other than being a little too conservative on the series before the end of the half(resulting in the blocked punt) I absolutely loved the playcalling and schemes today from Shanny. They came out throwing a ton of short passes(RG was 6/6 on the first drive) and then hit them with the big play on the second series. After they got out to a lead, they came back with the running game and did a great job moving the ball. I thought they were very well balanced and kept N.O. totally guessing all day long.'Voice Of Reason said:Shanahan is a terrible head coach and is the only thing that will stop RG3 from being an elite fantasy QB.
and i'm sure roddy white has a lot more `100 yard games than Miles Austin. And Miles Austin wasnt the most targeted receiver last year. Point is I still think Roddy White has the better statistical season.Except Dez has 1 100 yard game in 28 starts and Julio has 6 in 14.'LawFitz said:I still think Roddy White is Ryan's top target. Julio/Roddy kinda reminds me of Dez/Austin. New kid on the block, physical freak vs the vet who has more reps with their quarterback.
Interesting -- why? If anything I think it's a bigger stretch with Moss. He's a proven veteran, but he has many talented hands around him to compete for targets -- Garcon and Josh Morgan (both ahead of Moss on the depth chart), the up and coming Leonard Hankerson, and Fred Davis.Holmes has to compete with relative unknowns like Turner and Kerley as well as Stephen Hill -- the latter two had a significant day, but Holmes is still the #1 and a proven commodity. May not be flashy, but if Sanchez stays steady, Holmes is likely the biggest benefactor.I'll give you Santana Moss, but I bet we don't hear a lot about Santana Holmes this season.A lot of names of guys many thought whose best games were behind them will continue to prove they are vastly better than their ADP this year:
Mark Sanchez
Peyton Manning
Frank Gore
Willis McGahee
Reggie Bush
Steve Smith
Reggie Wayne
Santana Holmes (and I'd wager the other Santana [Moss] too in the coming weeks)
Marques Colston
Tony Gonzalez
Greg Olsen
Owen Daniels
Heath Miller
Brent Celek
i'm pretty sure he was making fun of you, sir. there is no one by the name Santana Holmes in the NFL.Interesting -- why? If anything I think it's a bigger stretch with Moss. He's a proven veteran, but he has many talented hands around him to compete for targets -- Garcon and Josh Morgan (both ahead of Moss on the depth chart), the up and coming Leonard Hankerson, and Fred Davis.Holmes has to compete with relative unknowns like Turner and Kerley as well as Stephen Hill -- the latter two had a significant day, but Holmes is still the #1 and a proven commodity. May not be flashy, but if Sanchez stays steady, Holmes is likely the biggest benefactor.I'll give you Santana Moss, but I bet we don't hear a lot about Santana Holmes this season.A lot of names of guys many thought whose best games were behind them will continue to prove they are vastly better than their ADP this year:
Mark Sanchez
Peyton Manning
Frank Gore
Willis McGahee
Reggie Bush
Steve Smith
Reggie Wayne
Santana Holmes (and I'd wager the other Santana [Moss] too in the coming weeks)
Marques Colston
Tony Gonzalez
Greg Olsen
Owen Daniels
Heath Miller
Brent Celek
You won't be seeing much of Santana Holmes because there is no such player named Santana Holmes. There is a player named Santonio Holmes though. I'm pretty sure that is what he meant.Interesting -- why? If anything I think it's a bigger stretch with Moss. He's a proven veteran, but he has many talented hands around him to compete for targets -- Garcon and Josh Morgan (both ahead of Moss on the depth chart), the up and coming Leonard Hankerson, and Fred Davis.Holmes has to compete with relative unknowns like Turner and Kerley as well as Stephen Hill -- the latter two had a significant day, but Holmes is still the #1 and a proven commodity. May not be flashy, but if Sanchez stays steady, Holmes is likely the biggest benefactor.I'll give you Santana Moss, but I bet we don't hear a lot about Santana Holmes this season.A lot of names of guys many thought whose best games were behind them will continue to prove they are vastly better than their ADP this year:
Mark Sanchez
Peyton Manning
Frank Gore
Willis McGahee
Reggie Bush
Steve Smith
Reggie Wayne
Santana Holmes (and I'd wager the other Santana [Moss] too in the coming weeks)
Marques Colston
Tony Gonzalez
Greg Olsen
Owen Daniels
Heath Miller
Brent Celek
After they fell behind by 20+ most of the way.'flysack said:C.J. Spiller will be a top 5 RB at the end of the year.
(Freddy Jax is hurt, and CJ tore up a very good Jets D)
And yet he still put up stud RB1 #s'1rebmun said:The Chicago Sun Times confirms Michael Bush will continue to be the Bears' goal-line back, "whether (Matt) Forte likes it or not."Bush also dipped into Forte's open-field carries in Sunday's Opening Day win over the Colts, rushing 12 times including his two goal-line scores. Forte finished with 19 touches. "It’s good to have a player like Michael, period, all over the field," coach Lovie Smith said. "That’s why we brought him in here." Expect this to be more of a committee backfield going forward.Related: Michael BushSource: Chicago Sun-Times'shadyridr said:he scored a td and looked amazing'mquinnjr said:I'm reading this as, "If you don't have Forte in full point PPR, sell." He looked amazing to me. The presence of Michael Bush in non-PPR leagues will drive Forte owners nuts all season. In non-PPR, I'd sell now and get out on a high note if you can get alot for him.'shadyridr said:huh? forte looked awesome'Carver said:New England may have drafted the two best defensive players in this years draft with Jones/Hightower.Wes Welkers days as a fantasy stud are over.Kenny Britt will have a HUGE season if the titans play calling stays that aggresive all season.Dwill is worthless.Benson is worthless.Brandon Marshall is going to dominate.Time to cash out on Forte if you have him. RGIII to Garcon is going to be a sweet hook-up all year.Rashad Jennings... we barely knew ya, kid.
More broadly speaking, I think this shows how quickly the fantasy community eschews "older" WRs looking for the new toy.We've seen that WRs, unlike RBs, can be very productive well into their 30s, but many seem to downplay them in drafts.'Badgers Fan said:Whether Collie is there or not, old man Reggie Wayne is still going to get his.
Not arguing but there seems to be a different philosophy in NE.'Assani Fisher said:2011 49ers rush D: 1236 yards(#1 in NFL)2011 Titans rush D: 2053 yards(#24 in NFL)I think this might have something to do with that.'pittstownkiller said:After last season I thought that GB and NEP (others too) would try to get more of a running game so that they could control the ball; after this week I think NEP gets it, GB hasn't.