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What is Chris Johnson's value? (1 Viewer)

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RBs seem to fall off a cliff after the first tier, and those guys are near untouchable as a result. Was wondering if CJ2K has potential to crack that top tier from the outside? What's he going for in your leagues?

 
I currently dont have a TE (dropped Cook on a bye for Tebow) and the best WW options are Watson, Ballard, Dickson, HMiller, etc. Last week the Witten owner put him on the block for RBs or WRs

I offered him DWill/Decker/Ridley for Witten/Manningham..if he declines, I might come back with something involving Witten that includes me trading Mendenhall (he has Redman and is a PIT homer) for CJ. Mendy's schedule is really juicy down the stretch, but I still think CJ is the more talented back and I really need a reliable TE.

 
'Kenny Powers said:
I currently dont have a TE (dropped Cook on a bye for Tebow) and the best WW options are Watson, Ballard, Dickson, HMiller, etc. Last week the Witten owner put him on the block for RBs or WRsI offered him DWill/Decker/Ridley for Witten/Manningham..if he declines, I might come back with something involving Witten that includes me trading Mendenhall (he has Redman and is a PIT homer) for CJ. Mendy's schedule is really juicy down the stretch, but I still think CJ is the more talented back and I really need a reliable TE.
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So you're thinking Mendy/Decker/Ridley for Witten/CJ?
 
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'Kenny Powers said:
I currently dont have a TE (dropped Cook on a bye for Tebow) and the best WW options are Watson, Ballard, Dickson, HMiller, etc. Last week the Witten owner put him on the block for RBs or WRsI offered him DWill/Decker/Ridley for Witten/Manningham..if he declines, I might come back with something involving Witten that includes me trading Mendenhall (he has Redman and is a PIT homer) for CJ. Mendy's schedule is really juicy down the stretch, but I still think CJ is the more talented back and I really need a reliable TE.
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So you're thinking Mendy/Decker/Ridley for Witten/CJ?
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I havent gotten to that point yet because my initial offer is still on the table, but yes, Id probably do that deal. I also made various other offers last week for CJ/Witten and he said he wasnt trading CJ.I dont think CJ owners will trade him unless theyre getting a legit RB in return.
 
His FB is back which is huge for him and the coach went ahead and put an extra lineman in for the TE to be sure their blocking improved. Good signs IMO

 
Watched him for the first time Sunday (I paid good money for him 3 weeks ago and haven't seen much return on investment). He looked tentative and just slow. Like he was scared to hit the hole fast. I want my money back.

 
I've just been offered CJ and Rivers for Gore and Rothesberger in a ppr league. Kind of a weird offer as its just a trade off. I'm thinking I'll take it, and hope he turns it around.

 
In a PPR I'm considering offering Sproles for CJ straight up. Guy is in a bind this week with byes and Sproles gives him a player he can start over the likes of Hightower. I know Sproles has been consistent but CJ has nice upside.

 
Not sure he bounces back from this rut. Small guy, has taken alot of hits the last few years...lots of carries. I am not shocked he is struggling.

 
I actually watched his game last week, and he came out looking great. Broke off a great run then followed that up with a series of 4-6 yard gains. Next thing I know he is hesitating in the backfield and the few more times that he made it to the second level, he would just about sit down on the field to avoid contact.

His guaranteed part of the contract must have stipulations that he can't get hurt in the first year of the contract!! Luckily he is not my #1 RB so as long as I get 10-15 (in PPR) from him each week, I'm good.

Do have an owner interested in a CJ/? for Jennings type of deal though.

 
Friends league, two somewhat amateurish guys just traded CJ for Bowe straight up. The guy trading CJ now has 2 running backs rostered, the RB2 being Stewart.

Half the league thinks the guy getting Bowe got ripped off, the other half thinks the opposite.

 
I've owned CJ in my dynasty league since he entered the NFL.

His running woes date back to late in the season last year. He singlehandedly lost some crucial matchups for me while vying for the playoffs. I'm miserable about owning him.

He is a small back, looks slower this year, and now he is scared of contact. Definitely seems not as motivated with his new deal. Not running with any urgency.

I seriously think he feels "I got paid, I'm set for life, why ruin it by getting a nasty injury?"

Dude is coasting. I would not trade for him unless you can get him for dirt cheap

 
'jantoniosus said:
I actually watched his game last week, and he came out looking great. Broke off a great run then followed that up with a series of 4-6 yard gains. Next thing I know he is hesitating in the backfield and the few more times that he made it to the second level, he would just about sit down on the field to avoid contact.His guaranteed part of the contract must have stipulations that he can't get hurt in the first year of the contract!! Luckily he is not my #1 RB so as long as I get 10-15 (in PPR) from him each week, I'm good.Do have an owner interested in a CJ/? for Jennings type of deal though.
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This leads me to ask myself.... does he have an injury not listed on the injury report?
 
'Ray_T said:
'jantoniosus said:
I actually watched his game last week, and he came out looking great. Broke off a great run then followed that up with a series of 4-6 yard gains. Next thing I know he is hesitating in the backfield and the few more times that he made it to the second level, he would just about sit down on the field to avoid contact.His guaranteed part of the contract must have stipulations that he can't get hurt in the first year of the contract!! Luckily he is not my #1 RB so as long as I get 10-15 (in PPR) from him each week, I'm good.Do have an owner interested in a CJ/? for Jennings type of deal though.
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This leads me to ask myself.... does he have an injury not listed on the injury report?
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He did quit and leave the game with "hamstring tightness". An all-around pathetic performance from CJ from the 2nd quarter on.Now Munchak has entered phase 2, quietly calling out CJ to the media. Phase 3 is chewing him out on the sidelines and benching him for a quarter or more. Phase 4 would be to tell him to fake an injury and sit the rest of the season out, which I predict happens around week 12.
 
Traded Best and Torain last week. Had just picked up Torain off the wire.

 
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Not a great example (because it is very specific) but in my 12 team, Keep 3 league, .5 PPR this went down a day or so ago:

CJ and Turner for Forte and Maclin.

The CJ/Turner owner had both players on expiring contracts, so he was not going to get full value (3 weeks ago, I offered him Foster for CJ straightup and he turned it down...today, I am OK with that). I still think the CJ owner made out OK, as long as Forte resigns in CHI. Not sure how his value would be in a place that did not throw to the RB often.

 
Ok, guys, I am dealing with just this situation. Trying to buy CJ.

Dez & Stevie J., too low.

VJax? All else being equal, straight up is that too much to offer given the way CJ has been performing (vs what he could do), or not?

 
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'GCP said:
'Ray_T said:
'jantoniosus said:
I actually watched his game last week, and he came out looking great. Broke off a great run then followed that up with a series of 4-6 yard gains. Next thing I know he is hesitating in the backfield and the few more times that he made it to the second level, he would just about sit down on the field to avoid contact.His guaranteed part of the contract must have stipulations that he can't get hurt in the first year of the contract!! Luckily he is not my #1 RB so as long as I get 10-15 (in PPR) from him each week, I'm good.Do have an owner interested in a CJ/? for Jennings type of deal though.
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This leads me to ask myself.... does he have an injury not listed on the injury report?
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He did quit and leave the game with "hamstring tightness". An all-around pathetic performance from CJ from the 2nd quarter on.Now Munchak has entered phase 2, quietly calling out CJ to the media. Phase 3 is chewing him out on the sidelines and benching him for a quarter or more. Phase 4 would be to tell him to fake an injury and sit the rest of the season out, which I predict happens around week 12.
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I don't recall that hamstring tightness you speak of.Re-this thread-There were holes at times that he missed, other times (most often) it was pathetic and looked like an army chasing him down. Hall didn't play as often as I expected. He made an obvious difference-as any good FB would. The extra T made a difference too, naturally. You can almost see Munchak's commitment to the blocking while you're watching the game. He's going to improve their blocking or die trying. I also think it's about time to "call out" the great Bruce Matthews as an OL coach. Matthews is oh so special a person, but he deserves to take some flack here. That line is poor and he needs to light a fire.It's not just CJ.I've noticed CJ run almost run into defenders or linemen because it surprised him the holes closed up so quick. I've seen a ton of runs that no one could have done well on and started to wish he'd do a Barry-like move and try running to the opposite sideline. It's a mess.It looked better last week in spots. I don't doubt Matthews and Munchak are all over their blocking during the bye and it sure makes me curious how they'll perform after.
 
Is there any expectation for CJ to put it together out of the bye week? Or is he really going to rest on his fat new contract all season? Who's the better underperforming back to target right now if you're trying to add a guy before your league's trade deadline, CJ or SJax?

 
'Azman1784 said:
Is there any expectation for CJ to put it together out of the bye week? Or is he really going to rest on his fat new contract all season? Who's the better underperforming back to target right now if you're trying to add a guy before your league's trade deadline, CJ or SJax?
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I never in a million years thought I would type this, but in redraft id take SJAX. In dynasty its not as clear. I am telling you guys that CJ has been coasting on his fat contract. I think he needs to be benched for a game or 2. maybe that will light a fire under his arsee.. so disappointing. and I was a proponent of them paying him this offseason.
 
i am always looking to improve my team ... constantly send out emails to the rest of my league saying, hey these guys are available. i don't even bother including chris johnson because i know the offers will be a joke.

10 carries for 18 yards? just awful.

 
'RhymesMcJuice said:
A suppose he's worth a pack of gum at this point.
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What kind of gum? If it's juicy fruit...I'd take the gum. I don't know if I've ever seen a faster fall from grace from someone just entering the prime of his career and not injured. What a turd.
 
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Considering offering Bradshaw for him.. NYG tough playoff schedule and CJ's next 3 games aren't too bad.. and I'm sitting at .500 so... I'm wondering if he'd take Bradshaw straight up.

 
is there any historical example of an epic fail like this?

Furthermore, let's say he finishes out the year with... say 800-900 combined yards and 4-5 TD's but no burst, no spark... where do you rank him moving forward for '12?

 
'Dentist said:
is there any historical example of an epic fail like this?Furthermore, let's say he finishes out the year with... say 800-900 combined yards and 4-5 TD's but no burst, no spark... where do you rank him moving forward for '12?
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Lamont Jordan, 2006. I drafted him @ #5 as wellFollowed up on a 1000 yd, 70 catch 2005 with a 434 yd, 10 catch year under Art Shell's anemic tutelage.Luckily he was hurt by week 12 so I could cut bait and not agonize over a potential bounce back. But the damage was done to my team
 
At this point you wonder about next year. One of two things, either someone gets him really late and it's a steal.. Or someone takes him early like this is an anomaly and regrets it.

 
'Dentist said:
is there any historical example of an epic fail like this?Furthermore, let's say he finishes out the year with... say 800-900 combined yards and 4-5 TD's but no burst, no spark... where do you rank him moving forward for '12?
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Fisher benched Johnson last year early in the season for some drives because he would not hit the hole. He turned it around last year, but the guy likes to dance and is no power runner.
 
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