What kind of WINE did you drink last night? (6 Viewers)

[Jules Winnfield]

Do you like Treana? Altamura?

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Does the pope wear a funny hat?I actually don't know Treana. Talk to me goose.

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Treana Winery makes five wines. Two under the Treana label and three under the Liberty School label. The Treana wines are blends and the Liberty School wines are single varietals.Treana Red is a blend of predominately Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlot, and Syrah.This wine shows deep plum color. The wine is full-bodied, with a lot of wild black fruits, anise, and leather. The finish is long and warm with a lot of fruit and spice.

Treana White is a 34% / 66% blend of Marsanne and Viognier, two white Rhône varietals that thrive in California's Central Coast. All of the grapes that make the white are purchased from the Mer Soleil Vineyard in the Santa Lucia Highlands. With these two grapes you get a lot of lush tropical flavor.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Tipsy, if you have a distributor that can get you Treana then please do so. It is a wonderful wine for the list.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Marsanne and Viognier, two white Rhône varietals that thrive in California's Central Coast.

I've found a good winemaker in Washington state that produces both grapes as well, & I have to say they kick major booty. McCrea...ever heard? I believe the winemakers are originally from NOLA, which is kind of cool from my point of view.I have had some from the Liberty school. Treana is sounding more familiar. It is possible I have tasted them... I want to say my Republic rep has them.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Tipsy,

Look back a page and you will see where I was at a tasting with Bill Easton and Terre Rouge Wines and also his Easton selection.

They had some wonderful wines. I really think that the Tête-à-Tête, Sierra Foothills 02 is a really good value. See if you can get these line of wines in.

I am a fan of Amphora as well.

I really like another one called Inspiration Vineyards. I am a drinker of the Zinfandel and a really big fan of the Pinot Noir. I know who can get you those wines.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

if Jules thinks that Starbucks and Caribou make ####ty coffee, I'm both afraid and hopeful that he'll be picking for me.  I want to know if he's delusional.

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Caribou ####ing rules. I miss that place. No Caribou in the desert. One of these days I might realize that represents the potential for me to fill a hole in the marketplace and make some money (They franchise, right?), but for now I'm just going to piss and moan about it.

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I think they quit franchising. You want me to send you some beans?
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Preferrably Joan of Arc Spicy Chili. Can't get them here either, and I used to use them to make my chili. Apparently Joan of Arc is a midwest thing.

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At Caribou? I've never heard of Joan of Arc Spicy Chili coffee. Are you here?

 

[MelvinTScupper]

MTS - PM me your address and I'll fire you some coffee so's you know what I'm talking about.

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I'm EXTREMELY happy with the Americano that my Caribou downstairs makes. I rarely make my own coffee.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

MTS - PM me your address and I'll fire you some coffee so's you know what I'm talking about.

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I'm EXTREMELY happy with the Americano that my Caribou downstairs makes. I rarely make my own coffee.
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What exactly is a Caribou?
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a large cloven hooved animal that lives in the tundra of Canada and Alaska.

 

[MelvinTScupper]

MTS - PM me your address and I'll fire you some coffee so's you know what I'm talking about.

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I'm EXTREMELY happy with the Americano that my Caribou downstairs makes. I rarely make my own coffee.
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What exactly is a Caribou?
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a large cloven hooved animal that lives in the tundra of Canada and Alaska.
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That apparently ####s coffee. Wow, learn something new every day.
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And run a frother like nobody's business.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

if Jules thinks that Starbucks and Caribou make ####ty coffee, I'm both afraid and hopeful that he'll be picking for me.  I want to know if he's delusional.

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Caribou ####ing rules. I miss that place. No Caribou in the desert. One of these days I might realize that represents the potential for me to fill a hole in the marketplace and make some money (They franchise, right?), but for now I'm just going to piss and moan about it.

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I think they quit franchising. You want me to send you some beans?
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Preferrably Joan of Arc Spicy Chili. Can't get them here either, and I used to use them to make my chili. Apparently Joan of Arc is a midwest thing.

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At Caribou? I've never heard of Joan of Arc Spicy Chili coffee. Are you here?
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Chili beans. You asked if I wanted beans. You didn't specify they had to be of the coffee variety. You should know by now that I'm an ###hole that way. Although there was some sincerity there. When I go back to the midwest, I actually pick up a few cans of chili beans here and there. It's pathetic, really.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Sangiovese - Available now

Full-bodied dry red with deep, rich, luscious flavors of black cherry. Unlike many reds, this wine was not aged in barrels allowing it to retain its youth and fruit.

$11.00-10.75-10.50

http://www.wollersheim.com/wine_list.asp

 

[MelvinTScupper]

if Jules thinks that Starbucks and Caribou make ####ty coffee, I'm both afraid and hopeful that he'll be picking for me.  I want to know if he's delusional.

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Caribou ####ing rules. I miss that place. No Caribou in the desert. One of these days I might realize that represents the potential for me to fill a hole in the marketplace and make some money (They franchise, right?), but for now I'm just going to piss and moan about it.

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I think they quit franchising. You want me to send you some beans?
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Preferrably Joan of Arc Spicy Chili. Can't get them here either, and I used to use them to make my chili. Apparently Joan of Arc is a midwest thing.

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At Caribou? I've never heard of Joan of Arc Spicy Chili coffee. Are you here?
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Chili beans. You asked if I wanted beans. You didn't specify they had to be of the coffee variety. You should know by now that I'm an ###hole that way. Although there was some sincerity there. When I go back to the midwest, I actually pick up a few cans of chili beans here and there. It's pathetic, really.
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Got it. No coffee.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

i went to high times & got a bunch of samples to try.  i will report up on each as i drink them.

04 tir na n'og australian grenache, mclaren vale.  the 03 got 93 points from the WS.  $22

02 bleasdale mulberry cab, australia. $14  i've some of their stuff before & liked it.

05 drylands sb marlborough, NZ.  91 points WS $13

04 possums shiraz, mclaren vale, aus. $14

04 twenty bench cab, napa.  made by charles hendricks.  $15

04 barbera d'asti, serra boella $15

03 gresbaurhof supitrol cab, by georg mumelter, alto adige, italy.  $27  this was pretty darn good.  nice solid rich fruits, with some mild but distinct earth tones.  it probably needs a little more time in the bottle but a pretty good find.  very limited availability according to high times.

05 oxford landing viogner, southern australian.  $6

04 vouvray, cuvee tradicional, francois pinon.  $16

04 parcel 41, merlot napa.  made by charles hendricks.  $15

02 cedar knoll, cab napa,  made by mia klein & randy dunn.  $14  i really liked this wine.  great fruit, pretty well balanced, & nice & big for the 14 dollar price.  i'll be buying a few more of these.

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possums update coming...as wel as parcel 41...a little to drizzunk to comment intelligently.
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04 possums shiraz middle of the road aussie shiraz, blackberry, hints of tobacco & mild spicyness. mild tannins. meh.04 parcel 41, merlot napa. nice little merlot with some punch. moderate + tannins, full of dark fruits & surprisingly a touch of earth. i'll buy more.

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04 tir na n'og australian grenache--this was a beautiful wine. absolutly delicious light fruit, no tannins. hints of rasberry, very light plum with a nice silky texture to the wine.02 bleasdale mulberry cab--very mediocre.

05 drylands sb --typical NZ sav blanc, super dry with grapefruit, lime citrus, with a hint of wet stone.

04 twenty bench cab, napa. very disapointing. maybe more time in the bottle will help, but i doubt it.

05 oxford landing viogner--for 6 bucks, outstanding! dry, with just a hint of apricot, i'll be getting more.

04 vouvray, cuvee tradicional, francois pinon. --brilliant loire valley stand by. great structure, subtle layers with a touch of honey at the finish. hopefully there's more.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

i've been drinking a lot of wine recently

here are some highlights:

99 jarvis cab, lake william. spectacular!

00 trefethen halo. unreal!

02 insignia. brilliant!

01 tignanello. fantastic!

03 isosoles. sublime!

00 merryvale profile. very good!

01 chateau monbousquet. huge, great!

02 ornellaia 2nd growth. really tasty, a steal considering the price of

my best friend has been in town over the last 2 weeks & he & i have been remodeling my house(he's a GC) & we've been capping of each day with great wines. my liver is very happy he left yesterday!

the wine fridge is in & full. however, i'm considering turning the entire dead space under the stairs into a wine cellar. there's plenty of room! in order to access the space behind the fridge we put the wine fridge on a rolling cart. now to get the wife to allow a 400+ wine collection.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

i've been drinking a lot of wine recently

here are some highlights:

99 jarvis cab, lake william.  spectacular!

00 trefethen halo.  unreal!

02 insignia.  brilliant!

01 tignanello.  fantastic!

03 isosoles.  sublime!

00 merryvale profile.  very good!

01 chateau monbousquet.  huge, great!

02 ornellaia 2nd growth.  really tasty, a steal considering the price of

my best friend has been in town over the last 2 weeks & he & i have been remodeling my house(he's a GC) & we've been capping of each day with great wines.  my liver is very happy he left yesterday! 

the wine fridge is in & full.  however, i'm considering turning the entire dead space under the stairs into a wine cellar.    there's plenty of room!  in order to access the space behind the fridge we put the wine fridge on a rolling cart.  now to get the wife to allow a 400+ wine collection.

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Umm brilliant? Try the #1 wine in the world. Where dd you get that? Did you bring enough to share?I have the '00 Merrvale right here at my side.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

i've been drinking a lot of wine recently

here are some highlights:

99 jarvis cab, lake william.  spectacular!

00 trefethen halo.  unreal!

02 insignia.  brilliant!

01 tignanello.  fantastic!

03 isosoles.  sublime!

00 merryvale profile.  very good!

01 chateau monbousquet.  huge, great!

02 ornellaia 2nd growth.  really tasty, a steal considering the price of

my best friend has been in town over the last 2 weeks & he & i have been remodeling my house(he's a GC) & we've been capping of each day with great wines.  my liver is very happy he left yesterday!  

the wine fridge is in & full.  however, i'm considering turning the entire dead space under the stairs into a wine cellar.     there's plenty of room!  in order to access the space behind the fridge we put the wine fridge on a rolling cart.  now to get the wife to allow a 400+ wine collection.

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Umm brilliant? Try the #1 wine in the world. Where dd you get that? Did you bring enough to share?I have the '00 Merrvale right here at my side.

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oddly enough in maui. my partner grabbed one, in the equivalent of a sav-on, for $135. he's going back in a week or 2. if there's more he'll get them for us.have you had any of the others? halo is one of my favorite napa cabs ever.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

just got a case of vueve rose, $40/btl, for the wife. & a 3 pack of 01 Halo $104/btl! the rose is quite nice, it's not as yeasty as regular vueve, it's a little more delicate. the halo is unfriggen real, big bold supple fruits with good tannins & great balance.

 

[Chadstroma]

One of my favorites....

Chateau Montelena

http://www.montelena.com/

VERY good bottle of wine and not too expensive... usually can find a Cab for about $50-60 at a store with a good selection.

 

[msommer]

Luigi Bosca Malbec Reserva 2003 - soft and nice. Can be had alone or complements a light meal well, as well as red meat without sauces (particularly creamy ones)

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Tasted 16 different wines today

14 from South Africa

1 from France

1 from Spain

The Overgaauw Cabernet was FANTASTIC!

I also drank some wonderful Pinotage and a Pinotage/Shiraz blend

Ordered 5 cases of South African wine and will report back with all the tasting notes I do.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Tasted 16 different wines today

14 from South Africa

1 from France

1 from Spain

The Overgaauw Cabernet was FANTASTIC!

I also drank some wonderful Pinotage and a Pinotage/Shiraz blend

Ordered 5 cases of South African wine and will report back with all the tasting notes I do.

Can I have your life?

It's not like we sat and drank 16 bottles of wine. If we had do you think I would be on FBG typing reports? I would be voting Berkamn over Pujols for the All-Star team instead. You spit a majority of the wines into the spit bucket. The ones I really liked I did drink. A lot.I think these would be some nice wines for the forward program.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Tasted 16 different wines today

14 from South Africa

1 from France

1 from Spain

The Overgaauw Cabernet was FANTASTIC!

I also drank some wonderful Pinotage and a Pinotage/Shiraz blend

Ordered 5 cases of South African wine and will report back with all the tasting notes I do.

Can I have your life?

It's not like we sat and drank 16 bottles of wine. If we had do you think I would be on FBG typing reports? I would be voting Berkamn over Pujols for the All-Star team instead. You spit a majority of the wines into the spit bucket. The ones I really liked I did drink. A lot.I think these would be some nice wines for the forward program.

I wasn't saying that I'd like to get slammed. I'd love to go taste wine then buy five cases of it. I did go to a wine tasting event with about 40 different wineries on Saturday, though - problem is, halfway through my palate was totally shot. :(

I know what you meanAt the VinItaly festival in April we tasted 45 wines per day. I was always carrying around a bottle of water just to make sure I could at least cleanse my palate a little bit. After coming back though I didn't want any wine for a while. For two weeks I couldn't stand to drink it or smell it. Plus it helped to give my liver a break.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Question for those of you that are into simply collecting wine for the sake of collecting it, and I don't mean this to be rude, just curious.  What exactly do you get out of having a certian 1989 Shiraz say if you have no intention of drinking it or sharing it with friends ?  Are you buying it as an investment or just to say that you have it ?

I guess we'll I can understand discovering a good wine and wanting to buy it to enjoy I just don't get collecting it for the sake of collecting it.

It's all personal difference or personal philosophy. Scupper and Jules probably differ in the way they buy from proninja and myself, who differ from you or tipsey. Like anything else you own in life, it's nice to be able to say to someone you encounter, "I have a <insert item of prestige here> sitting at home." But mostly people buy with the intention of drinking it down the road when the wine has matured. They want to try the best wines at their peak.Some of it can be sentiment. I've got a bottle of '97 Fife Zinfandel that probably cost $15 when it was released, it's pretty much on it's downward slope now, yet I can't bring myself to open it because it's the last one of a half-case I bought after my wife and I fell in love with it on a trip for our first anniversary.

I enjoy wine, but I'm not willing to put the kind of money into it that Jules and Scupper seem to be. While they're trying wines I would love to try and will have some great ones to drink down the road, I probably have a different personal philosophy on it than they do.

We just started to really apprecaite wine about 6-7 years ago, and it's something we kept up with because it basically became one of the few shared hobbies my wife and I have. On a day-to-day basis, most of the wine I drink is in the $15-$25 range, and I save most my higher-$ purchases for special occasions or trips to wine country.

This is the first year in 5 or 6 that my wife and I have not made a trip to Napa, Sonoma, or the Mendocino area. Often times while there, we would find a wine we liked that was worthy of cellaring, and we'd pick up two bottles - one to drink in the near future and one to put away for 5, 7, 10 years, whatever. I normally just pick up an extra bottle rather than a case/half-case. Some of that is a product of income. I could afford to buy more or to drink better wines on a daily basis, but I'd have to sacrifice other things to do so. And I'm not willing to do that just for wine.

As opposed to Jules 400+, I've got a wine fridge that holds about 60 bottles. It's stocked to the gills right now, and some of the first wines we bought to hold for a while will start coming out after my daughter is born in June/July. Most of those bottles won't be Brunellos or Shafer wines or wineries at the tips of most people's tongues (A number of ours are from places like Peju, Del Dotto, Sullivan, Summers, Hall, Zahtila, Cosentino) - just bottles we encountered during our trips to wine country, really enjoyed, and we'll pull them out and reminisce over this trip or that trip. I think it's all just about personal preference.

You're a beautiful man, Bob, an incredibly beautiful man. Have heard good things about a couple of those wines you listed but haven't tried them. Had someone tell me to visit Del Dotto last time I went through Napa but I ran out of time on the trip and didn't get a chance to locate it.

You didn't look at the pictures that closely, did you?Del Dotto's cave tour/tasting is the best value of any of the wineries I've hit in Napa. It's pricey at upwards of $40, but seeing the caves is cool. And the way they do their tasting is outstanding. It starts as a barrel tasting. While you're touring the cave, they'll stop at one of their wines and thief two samples, one of a wine aged in a Missouri barrel and another of the exact same wine that's been aging in a French barrel. It's intereesting to get an idea of what the different barrels do to the wines. Almost unanimously the women preferred the French barrel aging and the men preferred the Missouri. They don't tell until afterwards which came from which.

At any rate, you taste a LOT of wines in the barrel tasting. And if you wish, you can grab tags detailing which wines you tried and buy futures on them as you leave. After that they take you to their conference room and pull out bottles of their current releases, and you taste them. You will leave there half in the bag. And all their wines are outstanding. Best American Sangiovese I've had.

Have you tried Chariot Sangiovese?

I have not.

It's a wonderful Sangiovese. The fruit for the Sangiovese comes from Mer Soleil Vineyard in central California.Aromas of rose petal, Bing cherries, and wet rocks integrated with a little oak and fresh dirt. It doesn't sound appealing does it with the wet rock and dirt but it is a wonderful Sangiovese. Comes in at about $11-$13 a bottle.

WTF? I don't know what you do for food when you're not tasting wine, but your dinner parties seem to differ greatly from mine.

Please just try it. It is a great little bargain.

So, Saturday night the wife and I went to dinner with another couple to this great little restaurant in Scottsdale that has a full 3-ring binder for a wine list and a very... different... menu and atmosphere.Nestled in amongst the enormous list of California wines, including a full page of nothing but Turleys, I see the Chariot Sangio. Four factors make it the perfect selection for the evening:

1. The couple we're with likes wine enough to drink it but not enought to know much about it.

2. It's inexpensive, and as a result of 1, that's a priority

3. I remember Jules' suggestion and want to try it

4. As a result of 1, I'm picking the wine, so 3 takes precedent over everything else.

I have to say, it was an enjoyable wine, especially given the price point. I actually liked it more before it had a chance to breathe. It had a nice, almost peppery kick to it initially, but it lost that as it opened up.

Still a quality wine, but I think I'd be inclined to open it and then cork it if I had another bottle. I didn't like losing that punch it had up front. Thanks for the suggestion, Jules.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Last night: Hahn Meritage & Turley Juvie. I have 5 Turley left & 3 hidden away...

This week I start changing my wine list again. I have had a 100% domestic list for 2 years now, and am going to pick up some imports again.

That means tasting dozens of wines in the next week or 2. I look forward to posting my notes for ya'll. I'm mostly looking for French right off the bat, but will expand to the other great wine regions this entrie summer. I'm going to make my distributors work for it.

 

[msommer]

Saturday night I had a Primitivo from Culeo (IIRC) - excellent!

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Last night: Hahn Meritage & Turley Juvie. I have 5 Turley left & 3 hidden away...

This week I start changing my wine list again. I have had a 100% domestic list for 2 years now, and am going to pick up some imports again.

That means tasting dozens of wines in the next week or 2. I look forward to posting my notes for ya'll. I'm mostly looking for French right off the bat, but will expand to the other great wine regions this entrie summer. I'm going to make my distributors work for it.

You need to look to South Africa. Last couple years I was loving the great values out of Spain and I really think that South Africa is now the place to find the best values.South Africa wines I like:

Overgaaw: Cabernet and Shiraz/Cab blend

Mountain River: Pinotage/Shiraz blend

Maankloof: Entire line but I really like the Cabernet If you are looking for a white that the ladies will love I recomend their Bouquet Blanc. It is a blend of Gewurztraminer and Bukettraube.

Oubenheim: Pinotage

Zevenwatcht: Merlot

La Cave: Pinotage

Tin Mine: The Red is Shiraz/Merlot/Cab Sauv (51/26/23)

The White is Sauvignon Blanc, Chardonnay, Viognier (77/18/5)

A nice French White Bordeaux: Armand Roux Verdillac (70% Semillon, 30% Sauvignon Blanc)

From Barossa Valley Australia: Earthworks Shiraz

From Chile: Yelcho Sauvignon Blanc

From Spain: Los Planos Syrah

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Last night:  Hahn Meritage & Turley Juvie.  I have 5 Turley left & 3 hidden away...

This week I start changing my wine list again.  I have had a 100% domestic list for 2 years now, and am going to pick up some imports again. 

That means tasting dozens of wines in the next week or 2.  I look forward to posting my notes for ya'll.  I'm mostly looking for French right off the bat, but will expand to the other great wine regions this entrie summer.  I'm going to make my distributors work for it.

You need to look to South Africa. Last couple years I was loving the great values out of Spain and I really think that South Africa is now the place to find the best values.South Africa wines I like:

Overgaaw: Cabernet and Shiraz/Cab blend

Mountain River: Pinotage/Shiraz blend

Maankloof: Entire line but I really like the Cabernet If you are looking for a white that the ladies will love I recomend their Bouquet Blanc. It is a blend of Gewurztraminer and Bukettraube.

Oubenheim: Pinotage

Zevenwatcht: Merlot

La Cave: Pinotage

Tin Mine: The Red is Shiraz/Merlot/Cab Sauv (51/26/23)

The White is Sauvignon Blanc, Chardonnay, Viognier (77/18/5)

A nice French White Bordeaux: Armand Roux Verdillac (70% Semillon, 30% Sauvignon Blanc)

From Barossa Valley Australia: Earthworks Shiraz

From Chile: Yelcho Sauvignon Blanc

From Spain: Los Planos Syrah

i'll have to check these out. i've had Very bad luck with south african wines. most every pinotage i have ever tasted, tastes like leathery bacon.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Last night: Hahn Meritage & Turley Juvie. I have 5 Turley left & 3 hidden away...

This week I start changing my wine list again. I have had a 100% domestic list for 2 years now, and am going to pick up some imports again.

That means tasting dozens of wines in the next week or 2. I look forward to posting my notes for ya'll. I'm mostly looking for French right off the bat, but will expand to the other great wine regions this entrie summer. I'm going to make my distributors work for it.

have a rep bring you a chateau cruzeau. great little subtle bordeaux, nice starter for the french novice & at a good price point.penfold's RWT it's the last bit of shiraz that doesn't make it into the grange.

johan joseph prum reisling, phenomenal german reisling that should pair fabulously with your spicy dishes.

jacob's creek steingarten reisling, austrailian. sublime. dry.

pm me if you want more ideas. i

 

[msommer]

Last night:  Hahn Meritage & Turley Juvie.  I have 5 Turley left & 3 hidden away...

This week I start changing my wine list again.  I have had a 100% domestic list for 2 years now, and am going to pick up some imports again. 

That means tasting dozens of wines in the next week or 2.  I look forward to posting my notes for ya'll.  I'm mostly looking for French right off the bat, but will expand to the other great wine regions this entrie summer.  I'm going to make my distributors work for it.

You need to look to South Africa. Last couple years I was loving the great values out of Spain and I really think that South Africa is now the place to find the best values.South Africa wines I like:

Overgaaw: Cabernet and Shiraz/Cab blend

Mountain River: Pinotage/Shiraz blend

Maankloof: Entire line but I really like the Cabernet If you are looking for a white that the ladies will love I recomend their Bouquet Blanc. It is a blend of Gewurztraminer and Bukettraube.

Oubenheim: Pinotage

Zevenwatcht: Merlot

La Cave: Pinotage

Tin Mine: The Red is Shiraz/Merlot/Cab Sauv (51/26/23)

The White is Sauvignon Blanc, Chardonnay, Viognier (77/18/5)

A nice French White Bordeaux: Armand Roux Verdillac (70% Semillon, 30% Sauvignon Blanc)

From Barossa Valley Australia: Earthworks Shiraz

From Chile: Yelcho Sauvignon Blanc

From Spain: Los Planos Syrah

Of South Africans I am partial to La Motte's Cab - nice easy wine that goes down well - decent priced too (in South Africa at least). I agree with Da Raiders on the Pinotage - very much hit and miss - but I've had a few good ones - mostly when the South Africans have been ordering - can't remember the labels right now

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Thanks for the suggestions ya'll. I have already set up a tasting with my favorite rep for french wines. We taste on Thursday:

Jean Marc Boillot Premier Cru - Montangny 04

Perrin CDRhone Village 03 (I hear the 03' Rhones are off the hook)

Domaine Pavelot Savigny Les Beaune

Cht Charmail

Cht Haut Carles

Crios Malbec Rose (rep said this argentinan Rose is kicking...i hate rose so we'll see)

Marques D Caceres Rioja...I haven't tasted this in 3 years now.

( I probably butchered the spellings up there btw)

Talk to me about the pricing on some of those S. African suggestions Jules...I'm looking for bottles in between 10 & 20 wholesale for my list.

My list is still going to be 75% domestic, so I need really good reps from the imports I get. Good value / well known mostly / and not available in most grocery stores. (I.E. NO SANTA MARGHERITA :X )

I totally forgot to ask him for some Piedmont wines..I wonder if I can move Amarone or Brunello here? Tipsy loves him some N. Italian wines. I haven't been in the Italian tasting loop in many years. Suggestions?

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Thanks for the suggestions ya'll.  I have already set up a tasting with my favorite rep for french wines.  We taste on Thursday:

Jean Marc Boillot Premier Cru - Montangny 04

Perrin CDRhone Village 03 (I hear the 03' Rhones are off the hook)

Domaine Pavelot Savigny Les Beaune

Cht Charmail

Cht Haut Carles

Crios Malbec Rose (rep said this argentinan Rose is kicking...i hate rose so we'll see)

Marques D Caceres Rioja...I haven't tasted this in 3 years now.

( I probably butchered the spellings up there btw)

Talk to me about the pricing on some of those S. African suggestions Jules...I'm looking for bottles in between 10 & 20 wholesale for my list.

My list is still going to be 75% domestic, so I need really good reps from the imports I get.  Good value / well known mostly / and not available in most grocery stores.  (I.E. NO SANTA MARGHERITA :X )

I totally forgot to ask him for some Piedmont wines..I wonder if I can move Amarone or Brunello here?  Tipsy loves him some N. Italian wines. I haven't been in the Italian tasting loop in many years.  Suggestions?

For the Northern Italian look to St. Paul's Exclusive. It is in the Alto Adige region and I had the chance to visit them back in the first week in April. (If I could find a house there I would move tomorrow.) It is gorgeous in that area. They have one of the best Pinot Grigios that I have tasted. It is called "Egg Leiten" It is golden straw in color and has a nose of banana and pear with good acidity.Look here: Trade River Winery

They deal with private clubs, higher end restaurants, and B&Bs. They do not deal with liquor stores or chain restaurants. They would be a perfect fit for you.

Yes, they can sell to you. They can deal with all states but Utah.

South Africa?

Maankloof is about $7 a bottle.

Oubenheim is about $13.

Mountain River is about $11.

Tin Mine is about $9.

Faivalley Chenin Blanc is about $7.

France?

Verdillac. A White Bordeaux that is quite yummy. Perfect with Crab Cakes!

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Thanks for the suggestions ya'll. I have already set up a tasting with my favorite rep for french wines. We taste on Thursday:

Jean Marc Boillot Premier Cru - Montangny 04

Perrin CDRhone Village 03 (I hear the 03' Rhones are off the hook)

Domaine Pavelot Savigny Les Beaune

Cht Charmail

Cht Haut Carles

Crios Malbec Rose (rep said this argentinan Rose is kicking...i hate rose so we'll see)

Marques D Caceres Rioja...I haven't tasted this in 3 years now.

( I probably butchered the spellings up there btw)

Talk to me about the pricing on some of those S. African suggestions Jules...I'm looking for bottles in between 10 & 20 wholesale for my list.

My list is still going to be 75% domestic, so I need really good reps from the imports I get. Good value / well known mostly / and not available in most grocery stores. (I.E. NO SANTA MARGHERITA :X )

I totally forgot to ask him for some Piedmont wines..I wonder if I can move Amarone or Brunello here? Tipsy loves him some N. Italian wines. I haven't been in the Italian tasting loop in many years. Suggestions?

cannuubi barolo--big bad ### mofo--on the pricey side.tenuta dell ornellaia. it's ornellaia's 2nd growth, really good & WAY more price friendly then big brother.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

For affordable Bordeaux look into these:

Chateau Larose-Trintaudon

Chateau Greysac

Chateau Meyney

Chateau La Cardonne

 

[DA RAIDERS]

For affordable Bordeaux look into these:

Chateau Larose-Trintaudon

Chateau Greysac

Chateau Meyney

Chateau La Cardonne

add chateau gloria to that list as well. i really like the greysac

 

[Men-in-Cleats]

For affordable Bordeaux look into these:

Chateau Larose-Trintaudon

Chateau Greysac

Chateau Meyney

Chateau La Cardonne

I've had a couple of those and they are very nice for the price. Another one I've had excellent luck with in the past but haven't had available in a while is Chateau Gloria. It was my introduction into Bordeaux as my local liquor store (in a town of predominantly beer drinkers) had this from the 1989 vintage available to me in the mid-90's when I started enjoying wines. It was an excellent wine from a fabulous vintage and the later vintages I had several years later were very nice as well for their pricepoint.

 

[Men-in-Cleats]

For affordable Bordeaux look into these:

Chateau Larose-Trintaudon

Chateau Greysac

Chateau Meyney

Chateau La Cardonne

add chateau gloria to that list as well. i really like the greysac

 

[Capt Hook]

Opened Diamond Creek 1979 Cabernet from Volcanic Hill vineyard yesterday

It was excellent, very smooth, but still had good flavor and finish - can still be held a while too

 

[ditka311]

Dry Creek Vineyards Heritage 2003 zinfandel 11.99

Have not tried the zin in a while, but I love this vineyard. Great value for sure.

It was very good IMO. Went back and bought the last bottle. Hoping they had more but they only had one. I did get my first Brunello though. 1999 Gorelli Le Pottazine for $35. WS has it listed at $67 but the store had it listed at $55 and $35 for store "members". They have the regular Banfi Brunello at $49. Anybody try either of these? Matuski, you seem to be the Italian vino expert here.

 

[ditka311]

Know anything about "D cubed" 2002 Zinfandel from Napa? My accountant just dropped off a bottle for us to try (we were talking about zins a month ago). She says it is kickin'......what say you?

I zins so any recommendations would be great. Picked up a 2003 Seghesio Alexander Valley Home Ranch for about $28 tonight. Supposedly it is good stuff. Like their Old Vines wines.

 

[ditka311]

My wine guy brought them in himself today.  Feels like I won the lottery!

The 2004 Turley's

“The White Coat” San Luis Obispo County

A rich, distinctive style, with layers of ripe fig, mineral, apricot and honeydew melon flavors that turn smoky on the finish, where a vanilla edge comes through.

3 bottles

“Juvenile” California Zinfandel

A bold, rich, concentrated style, jam-packed with dense, chewy plum, black cherry and wild berry flavors that are tightly wound and sharply focused. This massive youngster finishes with a push of fresh earth, spice, pencil lead and tar.

6 bottles

“Old Vines” California Zinfandel

Ripe, intense and concentrated, with deftly balanced fruit and light cedary oak. The zesty cranberry and wild berry flavors are restrained and harmonious, giving you more flavor and depth than you might expect from a California appellation Zin.

12 bottles

“Duarte” Vineyard Contra Costa County Zinfandel

A big, ripe, effusively fruity style, with intense dusty wild berry, blackberry and dried currant flavors that firm up on the midpalate and show a tight core of cedary oak, finishing with ripe fruit, a touch of tar and herbal notes.

4 bottles

“Dusi” Vineyard Paso Robles Zinfandel

Ripe and vibrant, with lively red cherry, plum and spicy pepper notes that are pure and complex. Elegantly styled, with ripe, fine-grained tannins.

4 bottles

I've only ever had the pesenti & tofenelli vineyards before, so these tasting notes are ripped from wine spectator.  (all from the 2002's...they have yet to review the 2004's).  I'm most interested in the juvenile just to compare the new vines to their old ones & single vineyards.

Countdown to chef & I cracking one of the "old vines"......2.5 hours.

I LOVE the Dusi!

Jackpot!

 

[ditka311]

Drank some Crios out of the Mendoza region in Argentina.  It was a Bonnarda and Syrah mix, it tasted great.  Highly recommended.  About $15 a bottle.

Bonarda was actually an Italian grape but they had a phylloxera problem

Speaking of bonarda...love the Altos las Hormigas Colonia Las Liebre....cheap and fantastic.

 

[ditka311]

And finally, I tried the 2002 Tintara McClaren Vale Cab Sauv for $14. Absolutely fantastic. Went back to the store and they only had one left...booooooo....still have it.

I highly recommend this wine.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Know anything about "D cubed" 2002 Zinfandel from Napa? My accountant just dropped off a bottle for us to try (we were talking about zins a month ago). She says it is kickin'......what say you?

I zins so any recommendations would be great. Picked up a 2003 Seghesio Alexander Valley Home Ranch for about $28 tonight. Supposedly it is good stuff. Like their Old Vines wines.

Murphy-Goode Liar's Dice - Easy on the pocketbookFrog's Leap

Chateau Soverain

Hartford

Inspiration Vineyards (One of my favorites)

Preston of Dry Creek

Howell

Hendry

Neyers

 

[ditka311]

Know anything about "D cubed" 2002 Zinfandel from Napa?  My accountant just dropped off a bottle for us to try (we were talking about zins a month ago).  She says it is kickin'......what say you?

I zins so any recommendations would be great. Picked up a 2003 Seghesio Alexander Valley Home Ranch for about $28 tonight. Supposedly it is good stuff. Like their Old Vines wines.

Murphy-Goode Liar's Dice - Easy on the pocketbookFrog's Leap

Chateau Soverain

Hartford

Inspiration Vineyards (One of my favorites)

Preston of Dry Creek

Howell

Hendry

Neyers

Also a big fan of the Frog's Leap. The Chateau Souverain was pretty good as was the Dry Creek mentioned above. I can't find any of the Howell Mountain Vineyards around here though.

I will see what else I can find out of that list.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Know anything about "D cubed" 2002 Zinfandel from Napa?  My accountant just dropped off a bottle for us to try (we were talking about zins a month ago).  She says it is kickin'......what say you?

I zins so any recommendations would be great. Picked up a 2003 Seghesio Alexander Valley Home Ranch for about $28 tonight. Supposedly it is good stuff. Like their Old Vines wines.

Murphy-Goode Liar's Dice - Easy on the pocketbookFrog's Leap

Chateau Soverain

Hartford

Inspiration Vineyards (One of my favorites)

Preston of Dry Creek

Howell

Hendry

Neyers

Also a big fan of the Frog's Leap. The Chateau Souverain was pretty good as was the Dry Creek mentioned above. I can't find any of the Howell Mountain Vineyards around here though.

I will see what else I can find out of that list.

I forgot about another one that I have recently been drinking. Citizen Zinfandel. I have had their Cabernet many time and find it to be a really good value in the Cab world so I tried the Zinfandel. Zinfandel grapes from the Alexander Valley and a touch of Petit Syrah to create a easy drinking, mighty tasty, and full body red.

The Cabernet is a Tuscan style with a little Merlot and Sangiovese tossed in.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

02 rombauer estate zin was great! nice & big without the heavy pepperyness i don't care for that is in a lot of zins.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The Zin - Costentino. Big fan. Also, Zahtila Oat Hill Estate Zin is outstanding, but it wouldn't be classified a value wine.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

02 rombauer estate zin was great! nice & big without the heavy pepperyness i don't care for that is in a lot of zins.

I'm happy with most of their product.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Know anything about "D cubed" 2002 Zinfandel from Napa? My accountant just dropped off a bottle for us to try (we were talking about zins a month ago). She says it is kickin'......what say you?

I zins so any recommendations would be great. Picked up a 2003 Seghesio Alexander Valley Home Ranch for about $28 tonight. Supposedly it is good stuff. Like their Old Vines wines.

Murphy-Goode Liar's Dice - Easy on the pocketbookFrog's Leap

Chateau Soverain

Hartford

Inspiration Vineyards (One of my favorites)

Preston of Dry Creek

Howell

Hendry

Neyers

Also a big fan of the Frog's Leap. The Chateau Souverain was pretty good as was the Dry Creek mentioned above. I can't find any of the Howell Mountain Vineyards around here though.

I will see what else I can find out of that list.

I forgot about another one that I have recently been drinking. Citizen Zinfandel. I have had their Cabernet many time and find it to be a really good value in the Cab world so I tried the Zinfandel. Zinfandel grapes from the Alexander Valley and a touch of Petit Syrah to create a easy drinking, mighty tasty, and full body red.

The Cabernet is a Tuscan style with a little Merlot and Sangiovese tossed in.

Btw: That zin was really nice. She said she will get me 3 more bottles of it next week.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Know anything about "D cubed" 2002 Zinfandel from Napa?  My accountant just dropped off a bottle for us to try (we were talking about zins a month ago).  She says it is kickin'......what say you?

I zins so any recommendations would be great. Picked up a 2003 Seghesio Alexander Valley Home Ranch for about $28 tonight. Supposedly it is good stuff. Like their Old Vines wines.

Murphy-Goode Liar's Dice - Easy on the pocketbookFrog's Leap

Chateau Soverain

Hartford

Inspiration Vineyards (One of my favorites)

Preston of Dry Creek

Howell

Hendry

Neyers

Also a big fan of the Frog's Leap. The Chateau Souverain was pretty good as was the Dry Creek mentioned above. I can't find any of the Howell Mountain Vineyards around here though.

I will see what else I can find out of that list.

I forgot about another one that I have recently been drinking. Citizen Zinfandel. I have had their Cabernet many time and find it to be a really good value in the Cab world so I tried the Zinfandel. Zinfandel grapes from the Alexander Valley and a touch of Petit Syrah to create a easy drinking, mighty tasty, and full body red.

The Cabernet is a Tuscan style with a little Merlot and Sangiovese tossed in.

Btw: That zin was really nice. She said she will get me 3 more bottles of it next week.

Of what? The Citizen?Tonight some friends decided to invite me over for wine. There are 10 of us and then his wife says "I just got these new Shiraz wines in that I want you to try. I just love them" She then pulls out Earthworks Shiraz and Los Planos Syrah. I didn't have the heart to tell her that I just did a tasting of Earthworks a while ago and that I have been drinking the Los Planos for a long time now.

I brought over a Ermita de Tices-Tinto Crianza which is a Tempranillo/Cab/Merlot blend (60/30/10)

Earthworks is a good Shiraz though.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Anyone else intimidated by the idea of sending Jules wine?

Stop that.I love wine. If it is a wine I have never had and it isn't corked then I will enjoy it. That's what wine is meant for. Tasting wines I have never had is why I drink and love wine. Sure, I have enjoyed $300 bottles but I have also loved $6 bottles. Two years ago I could go out and buy so many Spanish wines at $6,7,8,9,and 10 bottles and they were outstanding. Last year I was getting great value in Chile and now I am really finding great values in South Africa.

I have told you of Los Planos. Cost: About $9

Codice. Cost: About $6

Cavas de Chacras Malbec. Cost: $10

Maankloof Cabernet. Cost: $6

Tierra del Fuego Pinot Noir. Cost: $11 (Although I cannot say the same for the latest vintage)

Tierra del Fuego Carmenere. Cost: $11

Arrigoni Le Madie Chianti. Cost: $11

Txakoli Txomin Etxaniz. Cost $14

Not a load of heavy $$$ in those wines and they are all found in my collection. Send me one you like. Tell me why. I'll like it too.