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Thought the oddest play was rushing that FG before the two minute warning. Clock stops after the kick anyways. And stops again after the kickoff return.

Thought the oddest play was rushing that FG before the two minute warning. Clock stops after the kick anyways. And stops again after the kickoff return.
They said the wind was the reason. I'm definitely going with Belichick knowing his kicker's range there better than I do.JI'm very confident that any NFL kicker has a better chance of making a 51 yard FG than any NFL offense does of converting on 4th and 13.Unless you signed a total bum to be your kicker. Who decided to sign him?good to know you are more familiar with that patriots kickers ability to hit a 50+ yard fg than bb.The fake punt was dumb. Going for it on 4th and 13 instead of taking the FG attempt was dumber.
It makes sense if you can kick the FG by 2:04, then get a touchback on the ensuing kickoff (or just kick it out of bounds). Then the Jets would have had 1st down at 2:01, giving the Pats a free timeout. But the Pats took so long on that pass to Welker that they couldn't even get the FG unit onto the field until 2:02, at which point it was pointless to make the kick.It was a good idea in theory, but it was very poorly executed and it almost cost them the game.Thought the oddest play was rushing that FG before the two minute warning. Clock stops after the kick anyways. And stops again after the kickoff return.The fake punt is a calculated gamble. It works or it doesn't, and the results determine if the talking heads declare it to be idiocy or genius at work.The attempt to beat the two-minute warning with a field goal attempt appeared to indicate panic. Kicking the ball at 2:02 would literally have saved two seconds, and a missed field goal appears to end your season. That rushing the two minute warning effort should never have happened.
Does the wind affect the offense's chance of converting 4th and 13?They said the wind was the reason. I'm definitely going with Belichick knowing his kicker's range there better than I do.JI'm very confident that any NFL kicker has a better chance of making a 51 yard FG than any NFL offense does of converting on 4th and 13.Unless you signed a total bum to be your kicker. Who decided to sign him?good to know you are more familiar with that patriots kickers ability to hit a 50+ yard fg than bb.The fake punt was dumb. Going for it on 4th and 13 instead of taking the FG attempt was dumber.
Not as negatively as it would affect a long field goal, not by a longshot.Graham's kickoffs when kicking in that direction landed at around the 10 yard line, a good 7-9 yards off his typical kickoff range. A 51 yarder against that wind was akin to him kicking a 58-60 yarder with no wind.Does the wind affect the offense's chance of converting 4th and 13?They said the wind was the reason. I'm definitely going with Belichick knowing his kicker's range there better than I do.JI'm very confident that any NFL kicker has a better chance of making a 51 yard FG than any NFL offense does of converting on 4th and 13.Unless you signed a total bum to be your kicker. Who decided to sign him?good to know you are more familiar with that patriots kickers ability to hit a 50+ yard fg than bb.The fake punt was dumb. Going for it on 4th and 13 instead of taking the FG attempt was dumber.
thats an inherently biased sample towards ideal conditions. wind, field conditions, or even minor injuries must be factored in and were likely the reason.Graham was 2/4 last year and 9/18 for his career from 50+ yards. Compare that to a ~25% chance of converting 4th-and-13.good to know you are more familiar with that patriots kickers ability to hit a 50+ yard fg than bb.The fake punt was dumb. Going for it on 4th and 13 instead of taking the FG attempt was dumber.
Okay, fine. Let's reduce Graham's chances to 25%. That's still better than converting 4th and 13 and subsequently scoring a FG or TD.thats an inherently biased sample towards ideal conditions. wind, field conditions, or even minor injuries must be factored in and were likely the reason.Graham was 2/4 last year and 9/18 for his career from 50+ yards. Compare that to a ~25% chance of converting 4th-and-13.good to know you are more familiar with that patriots kickers ability to hit a 50+ yard fg than bb.The fake punt was dumb. Going for it on 4th and 13 instead of taking the FG attempt was dumber.
I wondered why they wouldn't try a FG too but... Why beat this into the ground? Neither option is appealing. Graham was a fill in for an injured starter and clearly had less range. Couple that with the wind...Okay, fine. Let's reduce Graham's chances to 25%. That's still better than converting 4th and 13 and subsequently scoring a FG or TD.thats an inherently biased sample towards ideal conditions. wind, field conditions, or even minor injuries must be factored in and were likely the reason.Graham was 2/4 last year and 9/18 for his career from 50+ yards. Compare that to a ~25% chance of converting 4th-and-13.good to know you are more familiar with that patriots kickers ability to hit a 50+ yard fg than bb.The fake punt was dumb. Going for it on 4th and 13 instead of taking the FG attempt was dumber.
Lots of bad game management decisions in this one. To me the worst was not running a quicker offense during the 4th quarter knowing you need two scores to tie/win. That 7 and a half minute drive to no points was awful and obvious mismanagement while it was occurring.
I disagree here. It looked to me like the play was designed to go to the outside with Sammy Morris sealing the edge against Smith. Morris was in good position to throw that block and Smith would have had his work cut out for him getting to Chung at all.Even with a clean snap and no drop that play was 50/50 to have worked. Eric Smith had read the fake and was in position where he could have made a tackle before the 1st down (against a runner who doesn't exactly drive the pile forward)