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What to expect from Ahmad Bradshaw going forward? (1 Viewer)

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Some questions about Ahmad Bradshaw going forward...

1/ Assuming that Bradshaw returns healthy this week what will his role be going forward?

2/ Is he going to lose a lot of touches to Brown and Wilson?

3/ Is he a good buy low candidate in a high powered offense?

4/ Will he continue to be the rb to own for the Giants?

5/ Is he truly healthy?

6/ is the situation in NY now a full blown rbbc situation?

 
I'll tell you Sunday night around 11:30pm. Anything people say before that is just speculation.

My assumption is that Bradshaw will get about 60-70% of the carries going forward.

 
Some questions about Ahmad Bradshaw going forward...1/ Assuming that Bradshaw returns healthy this week what will his role be going forward?2/ Is he going to lose a lot of touches to Brown and Wilson?3/ Is he a good buy low candidate in a high powered offense? 4/ Will he continue to be the rb to own for the Giants?5/ Is he truly healthy?6/ is the situation in NY now a full blown rbbc situation?
1- kind of what we expected going into the season except with Brown replacing Wilson's role. Something like a 65/35 split for Bradshaw/Brown seems reasonable2- see #13- I think so. 1000yds, 10tds, 30 receptions seem about right4- He'll be a solid RB2. Brown a decent flex5- Yes, cleared for contact one week after the injury. Missed the game since it was on a short week. Seemed like a minor injury6- see #1
 
Some questions about Ahmad Bradshaw going forward...1/ Assuming that Bradshaw returns healthy this week what will his role be going forward?2/ Is he going to lose a lot of touches to Brown and Wilson?3/ Is he a good buy low candidate in a high powered offense? 4/ Will he continue to be the rb to own for the Giants?5/ Is he truly healthy?6/ is the situation in NY now a full blown rbbc situation?
1- kind of what we expected going into the season except with Brown replacing Wilson's role. Something like a 65/35 split for Bradshaw/Brown seems reasonable2- see #13- I think so. 1000yds, 10tds, 30 receptions seem about right4- He'll be a solid RB2. Brown a decent flex5- Yes, cleared for contact one week after the injury. Missed the game since it was on a short week. Seemed like a minor injury6- see #1
Thanks for the help. I think he is a great buy low guy
 
I'm not sure... my gut tells me that Andre Brown will steal this job. Bradshaw hasn't looked nearly as good as he did in 2010 since well 2010. Last season he was banged up all year put up awful stats and we never really saw that same burst. So far that same formula is going on this season. Andre Brown on the other hand has run amazing and hard two weeks in a row. He looks strong, fluid, fast... essentially everything Bradshaw doesn't look. Honestly, as a Giants homer? I'm a little uspet that Bradshaw is supposed to be back this week. I'm kind of hoping for a mild set back. If Bradshaw were to somehow not play this week and Brown were to put up another 100yd game and look this good I'd say Bradshaw comes back behind Brown. Even without that happening I still think this is a 50/50 share for the rest of the year baring any injuries.

In regards to #5 is Bradshaw truly healthy? No, he hasn't been truly healthy in two years. The guy is banged up like he's been a 10 year nfl veteran RB. I don't think he'll ever be truly healthy again in his career.

Put it this way, if someone offered me Bradshaw for Brown straight up I'd probably flip a coin on whether or not to take it. I think I'd lean towards taking Brown though. Even if he gets the fulltime job back this week, Bradshaw will miss more time this year no question about it. When that happens and Brown performs again I don't see how Bradshaw keeps the job.

 
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1/ Assuming that Bradshaw returns healthy this week what will his role be going forward?I figure he gets about 60% of carries, Brown is going to have some packages in there. Brown will be goal line back moving forward.

2/ Is he going to lose a lot of touches to Brown and Wilson?Yes to Brown.

3/ Is he a good buy low candidate in a high powered offense? Depends on how much he costs you. AB is a tough guy but I wouldnt be shocked to see him miss time again.

4/ Will he continue to be the rb to own for the Giants?

5/ Is he truly healthy? AB runs hard, he is always one hit away from being injured.

6/ is the situation in NY now a full blown rbbc situation? Yes

As always you can be sure to trust my Giants 'opinions.' Havent been incorrect yet!

 
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Before the season I expected him to share carries with David Wilson. Now I expect him to share with Andre Brown. Bradshaw has shared the role with Jacobs in past seasons. I don't think much has changed.

Andre Brown looked real good - but he also ran though some really big holes playing against a below average run defense. The demise of Bradshaw has been grossly exaggerated.

 
Bradshaw to get early down workBrown is the 3rd down/goal line back
Thats bullcrap RW speculation. Horrible. Bradshaw is the best pass blocker in the league. Theyre not gonna take him out on passing downs. I also think he'll get goal line touches but Ill concede I dont know the answer to that one yet.
 
Bradshaw to get early down workBrown is the 3rd down/goal line back
I see the opposite, but we'll know on Sunday. Bradshaw is easily the best pass protecting RB on the team. I'm betting they split the early down work and Bradshaw seems the majority of passing downs. I own him in many leagues and expect low RB2 PPR production the rest of the year.
 
In the other Bradshaw/Brown thread, it was stated that Bradshaw is the most effective goal line back in the NFL IIRC. People saying here that he is going to lose GL touches as if it is some definitive fact are exagerating a bit, as I believe this whole situation is. I admittedly own both, but it's painfully obvious who owns which back from the extreme angles some are taking on the situation. It reminds me of the Leshoure and Smith debate from last week where everyone was so one side or the other for the most part, and both parties were shocked by how one sided it is. Who knows, Coughlin could come out of nowhere and give Brown 3 carries out of 20 or worse and everyone would be wrong, and I really wouldn't be surprised. Point being, neither I or anyone else here has any evidence to back these claims up and it is pure speculation until Sunday.

 
It will be a committee, Bradshaw will get the lions share and the goal line + 2 minute drill work.

He's also a very capable 3rd down back, so its entirely possible brown just ends up being the change of pace back.

 
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Bradshaw will get the majority of the work. Coughlin is big on trust as you can see with Wilson being benched. Bradshaw will be in there on 3rd downs b/c he won't trust an inexperienced back on those plays. I expect it'll be something similar to Tate/Foster where Brown will get a few series throughout the game but Bradshaw will get the important 2 minute work.

 
Bradshaw will get the majority of the work. Coughlin is big on trust as you can see with Wilson being benched. Bradshaw will be in there on 3rd downs b/c he won't trust an inexperienced back on those plays. I expect it'll be something similar to Tate/Foster where Brown will get a few series throughout the game but Bradshaw will get the important 2 minute work.
Agreed. Coughlin is not hard to read. He will do what he has always done - trust his vet. It's not blind or unfounded trust. Ahmed is great at protecting Eli AND around the goal line. 15-18 touches most weeks for the NYG RB1.Since Tiki retired, the range has been 205 to 242 with a fifth outlier year of 323. Most of those years the #2 guy got 10-14 touches and was as productive as many teams RB1. I think Brown will have a decent sized role. But NFW is the job his, barring injury.
 
Both guys have the initials AB!

1/ Assuming that Bradshaw returns healthy this week what will his role be going forward?I figure he gets about 60% of carries, Brown is going to have some packages in there. Brown will be goal line back moving forward.

2/ Is he going to lose a lot of touches to Brown and Wilson?Yes to Brown.

3/ Is he a good buy low candidate in a high powered offense? Depends on how much he costs you. AB is a tough guy but I wouldnt be shocked to see him miss time again.

4/ Will he continue to be the rb to own for the Giants?

5/ Is he truly healthy? AB runs hard, he is always one hit away from being injured.

6/ is the situation in NY now a full blown rbbc situation? Yes

As always you can be sure to trust my Giants 'opinions.' Havent been incorrect yet!
 
The Giants won two SB with AB, they aren't going to phase him out of the running game. He is by far their best blocker. I expect AB to get a minimum of 60% of the work with Brown spelling him on occasion.

 
The Giants won two SB with AB, they aren't going to phase him out of the running game. He is by far their best blocker. I expect AB to get a minimum of 60% of the work with Brown spelling him on occasion.
He's also by far their best goal line back and id say hes their best back in literally every regard.Good blocker. Good awareness and vision. Good burst and power. Good receiver. The biggest mark against him is hes been plagued with a few nagging injuries and that he had problems with fumbling.
 
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I'm not sure... my gut tells me that Andre Brown will steal this job. Bradshaw hasn't looked nearly as good as he did in 2010 since well 2010. Last season he was banged up all year put up awful stats and we never really saw that same burst. So far that same formula is going on this season. Andre Brown on the other hand has run amazing and hard two weeks in a row. He looks strong, fluid, fast... essentially everything Bradshaw doesn't look. Honestly, as a Giants homer? I'm a little uspet that Bradshaw is supposed to be back this week. I'm kind of hoping for a mild set back. If Bradshaw were to somehow not play this week and Brown were to put up another 100yd game and look this good I'd say Bradshaw comes back behind Brown. Even without that happening I still think this is a 50/50 share for the rest of the year baring any injuries. In regards to #5 is Bradshaw truly healthy? No, he hasn't been truly healthy in two years. The guy is banged up like he's been a 10 year nfl veteran RB. I don't think he'll ever be truly healthy again in his career.Put it this way, if someone offered me Bradshaw for Brown straight up I'd probably flip a coin on whether or not to take it. I think I'd lean towards taking Brown though. Even if he gets the fulltime job back this week, Bradshaw will miss more time this year no question about it. When that happens and Brown performs again I don't see how Bradshaw keeps the job.
12 games, over 900 total yards and 11 TDs are terrible stats lasts year?
 
In the other Bradshaw/Brown thread, it was stated that Bradshaw is the most effective goal line back in the NFL IIRC. People saying here that he is going to lose GL touches as if it is some definitive fact are exagerating a bit, as I believe this whole situation is. I admittedly own both, but it's painfully obvious who owns which back from the extreme angles some are taking on the situation. It reminds me of the Leshoure and Smith debate from last week where everyone was so one side or the other for the most part, and both parties were shocked by how one sided it is. Who knows, Coughlin could come out of nowhere and give Brown 3 carries out of 20 or worse and everyone would be wrong, and I really wouldn't be surprised. Point being, neither I or anyone else here has any evidence to back these claims up and it is pure speculation until Sunday.
no way zero chance. Bradshaw is NOT a good short yardage RB. not today, not tomorrow, no.
 
Bradshaw will get the majority of the work. Coughlin is big on trust as you can see with Wilson being benched. Bradshaw will be in there on 3rd downs b/c he won't trust an inexperienced back on those plays. I expect it'll be something similar to Tate/Foster where Brown will get a few series throughout the game but Bradshaw will get the important 2 minute work.
Agreed. Coughlin is not hard to read. He will do what he has always done - trust his vet. It's not blind or unfounded trust. Ahmed is great at protecting Eli AND around the goal line. 15-18 touches most weeks for the NYG RB1.Since Tiki retired, the range has been 205 to 242 with a fifth outlier year of 323. Most of those years the #2 guy got 10-14 touches and was as productive as many teams RB1. I think Brown will have a decent sized role. But NFW is the job his, barring injury.
I disagree with this with all of my being. Did Bradshaw not subplant Jacobs (a vet) as the starter. Cmon man!.!!
 
Bradshaw will get the majority of the work. Coughlin is big on trust as you can see with Wilson being benched. Bradshaw will be in there on 3rd downs b/c he won't trust an inexperienced back on those plays. I expect it'll be something similar to Tate/Foster where Brown will get a few series throughout the game but Bradshaw will get the important 2 minute work.
Agreed. Coughlin is not hard to read. He will do what he has always done - trust his vet. It's not blind or unfounded trust. Ahmed is great at protecting Eli AND around the goal line. 15-18 touches most weeks for the NYG RB1.Since Tiki retired, the range has been 205 to 242 with a fifth outlier year of 323. Most of those years the #2 guy got 10-14 touches and was as productive as many teams RB1. I think Brown will have a decent sized role. But NFW is the job his, barring injury.
I disagree with this with all of my being. Did Bradshaw not subplant Jacobs (a vet) as the starter. Cmon man!.!!
Did that happen in one week, or did it take several years?
 
In the other Bradshaw/Brown thread, it was stated that Bradshaw is the most effective goal line back in the NFL IIRC. People saying here that he is going to lose GL touches as if it is some definitive fact are exagerating a bit, as I believe this whole situation is. I admittedly own both, but it's painfully obvious who owns which back from the extreme angles some are taking on the situation. It reminds me of the Leshoure and Smith debate from last week where everyone was so one side or the other for the most part, and both parties were shocked by how one sided it is. Who knows, Coughlin could come out of nowhere and give Brown 3 carries out of 20 or worse and everyone would be wrong, and I really wouldn't be surprised. Point being, neither I or anyone else here has any evidence to back these claims up and it is pure speculation until Sunday.
no way zero chance. Bradshaw is NOT a good short yardage RB. not today, not tomorrow, no.
Scored on 15 of 24 Goal line carries. 62.5%. Good for tops in the NFLStatistics per a CBS Fantasy Football Podcast
 
Ohm Youngmisuk@NotoriousOHM Kevin Gilbride said Bradshaw will have his workload but Brown will see carries and has earned role.
 
Bradshaw is the best all-round RB on the Giants roster, so I would expect he gets the bulk of the work as long as he's healthy. It's great that Brown had a strong game against one of the worst defenses in the league, and that's his job as a backup to step up when the starter is out. He lucked out that his big chance came against Carolina in week 3 instead of the 49ers in week 6. But just like Ramses Barden is not going to replace Nicks, Brown is not going to take over for Bradshaw. He's probably earned a few more carries and that's it.

 
I dropped Brown outright yesterday, so I don't think he'll make a big run later on. I got a great game out of him and I think that will be it unless Bradshaw goes down again. It is Bradshaw's team.

 
Giants | Ahmad Bradshaw has bulging disc in neck

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:00:16 -0700

New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw (neck) revealed he has a bulging or inflamed disc in his neck that is pushing against his spinal cord.

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Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:02:37 -0700

New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw (neck) is taking part in practice Thursday, Sept. 27.

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Giants | Andre Brown needs to adjust to lesser role

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 09:21:19 -0700

New York Giants RB Andre Brown admitted that it will be a challenge, continuing to be as productive when getting fewer opportunities, now that RB Ahmad Bradshaw (neck) is once again the team's starting running back. "Playing running back, once you get three carries, four carries, you get in a groove of things," Brown said. Head coach Tom Coughlin said the team will have a plan about how they're going to use both Bradshaw and Brown - although he wouldn't tip his hand.

FANTASY TIP: Brown may see less touches for the time being, but he figures to still be a factor in the Giants' running attack. The team has been successful in the past using multiple backs, and Bradshaw's durability is always a concern.

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This sounds like a headache for both owners:

Giants OC Kevin Gilbride suggested that his backfield workload will be determined by which running back develops "the hot hand" going forward.

Gilbride allowed that Andre Brown has "definitely earned the right to get into the mix" because he has "really changed the dynamic of our run game." It's high praise as opposed to coachspeak. "It's just a matter of us trying to get a feel what plays certain guys run a little more effectively than others," added Gilbride. "And you're always hoping somebody gets hot and you feed the hot hand." Brown has played better than Ahmad Bradshaw on film and in the boxscore through three weeks. If forced to pick one of the Giants backs, we prefer Brown as he's a better fit for the offense. For Week 4 alone, both backs are mere flex plays versus a stout Eagles run defense.

 
Giants | Running backs to share carries

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:09:54 -0700

New York Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride said RB Ahmad Bradshaw will have his workload, but RB Andre Brown will get carries and has earned a role in the game plan.

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This sounds like a headache for both owners:

Giants OC Kevin Gilbride suggested that his backfield workload will be determined by which running back develops "the hot hand" going forward.

Gilbride allowed that Andre Brown has "definitely earned the right to get into the mix" because he has "really changed the dynamic of our run game." It's high praise as opposed to coachspeak. "It's just a matter of us trying to get a feel what plays certain guys run a little more effectively than others," added Gilbride. "And you're always hoping somebody gets hot and you feed the hot hand." Brown has played better than Ahmad Bradshaw on film and in the boxscore through three weeks. If forced to pick one of the Giants backs, we prefer Brown as he's a better fit for the offense. For Week 4 alone, both backs are mere flex plays versus a stout Eagles run defense.
Why? Whats different than any other year for Bradshaw?
 
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Giants | Ahmad Bradshaw has bulging disc in neck Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:00:16 -0700New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw (neck) revealed he has a bulging or inflamed disc in his neck that is pushing against his spinal cord.0 Comments | Source: New York Daily News - Ralph Vacchiano | Share:
The only thing I know about bulging discs is that my dad had one in his lower back and he couldnt walk and had to have surgery. I understand there are different degrees of them but this cannot be good on any level right?
 
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Giants | Ahmad Bradshaw has bulging disc in his nek Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:00:16 -0700New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw (neck) revealed he has a bulging or inflamed disc in his neck that is pushing against his spinal cord.0 Comments | Source: New York Daily News - Ralph Vacchiano | Share:
The only thing I know about bulging discs is that my dad had one in his lower back and he couldnt walk and had to have surgery. I understand there are different degrees of them but this cannot be good on any level right?
oh sure, 4 positve posts and u focus on that one.they dont seem to think so. ill wait and see what bramel has to say about that.
 
'Hipple said:
Giants | Ahmad Bradshaw has bulging disc in neck

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:00:16 -0700

New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw (neck) revealed he has a bulging or inflamed disc in his neck that is pushing against his spinal cord.

0 Comments | Source: New York Daily News - Ralph Vacchiano | Share:
The only thing I know about bulging discs is that my dad had one in his lower back and he couldnt walk and had to have surgery. I understand there are different degrees of them but this cannot be good on any level right?
had many bulging discs and laminotomy to correctalleviate much of the pain the degenerative conditions from thus back problems/bulging-slipped discs brought. i know there is a world of difference between myself and a world class athlete. what i do know is once you start having these issues they do not go away completely. he will at the least live with chronic flareups the rest of his life........especially with the day job he has. my take is Grab/hold Andre Brown b/c he will either be big part of RBBC or fulltime starter when the flareups happen again this seasonwould love to hear Dr. Jene's take on this. if he doesn't join in or mention it in one of the podcasts i will tweet him sometime and post response. i don't think the exact nature of Bradshaw's injury was revealed before any of the podcasts have been produced thus far.

 
'Hipple said:
Giants | Ahmad Bradshaw has bulging disc in neck

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:00:16 -0700

New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw (neck) revealed he has a bulging or inflamed disc in his neck that is pushing against his spinal cord.

0 Comments | Source: New York Daily News - Ralph Vacchiano | Share:
The only thing I know about bulging discs is that my dad had one in his lower back and he couldnt walk and had to have surgery. I understand there are different degrees of them but this cannot be good on any level right?
had many bulging discs and laminotomy to correctalleviate much of the pain the degenerative conditions from thus back problems/bulging-slipped discs brought. i know there is a world of difference between myself and a world class athlete. what i do know is once you start having these issues they do not go away completely. he will at the least live with chronic flareups the rest of his life........especially with the day job he has. my take is Grab/hold Andre Brown b/c he will either be big part of RBBC or fulltime starter when the flareups happen again this seasonwould love to hear Dr. Jene's take on this. if he doesn't join in or mention it in one of the podcasts i will tweet him sometime and post response. i don't think the exact nature of Bradshaw's injury was revealed before any of the podcasts have been produced thus far.
The the takeaway from this post is that he will be in pain all season but its not an injury that will cut his season short?
 
'Hipple said:
Giants | Ahmad Bradshaw has bulging disc in neck

Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:00:16 -0700

New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw (neck) revealed he has a bulging or inflamed disc in his neck that is pushing against his spinal cord.

0 Comments | Source: New York Daily News - Ralph Vacchiano | Share:
The only thing I know about bulging discs is that my dad had one in his lower back and he couldnt walk and had to have surgery. I understand there are different degrees of them but this cannot be good on any level right?
had many bulging discs and laminotomy to correctalleviate much of the pain the degenerative conditions from thus back problems/bulging-slipped discs brought. i know there is a world of difference between myself and a world class athlete. what i do know is once you start having these issues they do not go away completely. he will at the least live with chronic flareups the rest of his life........especially with the day job he has. my take is Grab/hold Andre Brown b/c he will either be big part of RBBC or fulltime starter when the flareups happen again this seasonwould love to hear Dr. Jene's take on this. if he doesn't join in or mention it in one of the podcasts i will tweet him sometime and post response. i don't think the exact nature of Bradshaw's injury was revealed before any of the podcasts have been produced thus far.
The the takeaway from this post is that he will be in pain all season but its not an injury that will cut his season short?
for this season i could see possibly multiple 2-3week flareup/rest periods and in future seasons it only getting much worse. like i said these things usually only get worse overtime and his job makes the risk exponentially higher. Bradshaw being a top notch athlete is the only way i can even see him being back so early(within 2weeks) and i'm still skeptical he should be back. He may be rushing b/c there is some pressure for his job. My Brother has had fusion for degenerative discs in his lower back from multiple herniated discs and his wife is having cervical neck fusion in a few weeks and myself have had the less severe laminotomy endoscopic cleanouts of my damaged lamina to alleviate pressure on my nerves so i've been around this thing a lot. Neurosurgeons have already told me i'll have future procedures as you can't fix degenerative......can only alleviate.

Bradshaw doesn't seem to have a history of that yet but u can look at what he does for a living and know it will likely happen again once that/those facets are damaged Bradshaw was quoted to saying something like he knows he has a good chance of it flaring up or re-aggravating it and it'll be a wait and see type of deal........when the player comes out and says it then i usually think it is a serious issue b/c normally they think they are supermen or have wolverine healing and prognoticate much rosier outcomes and recovery times.

 

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