What to make of Adrian Peterson thus far? (1 Viewer)

[stuck_in_NYC]

The fact of the matter is that there can be no denying the greatness that is the PURPLE JESUS.

 

[Phenix]

Phenix, you ok brah? Take a breath.

I'm good.Oh, and BUMP!

 

[Insein]

Guess I'm in the minority here because I look at some of those 2nd round RBs and I'd rather have Charles or AP. The potential to give you 80-90% of what he used to be is better than Steven Jackson, Frank Gore or Michael Turner in my opinion. AP also has a very cheap handcuff in Gerhart who is very capable of giving you solid numbers till AP gets back to form. I just look at the 2nd round and if you want a RB, AP or Charles look the most appealing to me.

Just glad I AP was still there. Charles would have me pulling my hair out right now.

 

[mjr]

Guess I'm in the minority here because I look at some of those 2nd round RBs and I'd rather have Charles or AP. The potential to give you 80-90% of what he used to be is better than Steven Jackson, Frank Gore or Michael Turner in my opinion. AP also has a very cheap handcuff in Gerhart who is very capable of giving you solid numbers till AP gets back to form.

I just look at the 2nd round and if you want a RB, AP or Charles look the most appealing to me.

Just glad I AP was still there. Charles would have me pulling my hair out right now.

I traded Charles for AP during the off-season after seeing AP jump straight up 4 or 5 feet and run uphill, but I obviously never expected a season like this out of him. On pace for a career year and he's still healing! Unbelievable. I wonder how many people are going to swipe up players right after these injuries now, pointing to Welker and now AP, and just fail.

 

[rickyg]

This man is an absolute freak of nature. Safe to say he is one of the greatest running backs to ever play the game. Watching him play is like watching michael Angelo paint the sisteenth chapel.

I was a total skeptic about him coming off that acl. I will never doubt purple Jesus again.

Matchup proof!

 

[Phenix]

Guess I'm in the minority here because I look at some of those 2nd round RBs and I'd rather have Charles or AP. The potential to give you 80-90% of what he used to be is better than Steven Jackson, Frank Gore or Michael Turner in my opinion. AP also has a very cheap handcuff in Gerhart who is very capable of giving you solid numbers till AP gets back to form.

I just look at the 2nd round and if you want a RB, AP or Charles look the most appealing to me.

Just glad I AP was still there. Charles would have me pulling my hair out right now.

I traded Charles for AP during the off-season after seeing AP jump straight up 4 or 5 feet and run uphill, but I obviously never expected a season like this out of him. On pace for a career year and he's still healing! Unbelievable. I wonder how many people are going to swipe up players right after these injuries now, pointing to Welker and now AP, and just fail.

Not unbelievable after you watch that video of his rehab. Actually quite opposite. Very believable to have this type of year. Anyone who thought ADP would have a bad year did not do their research. Actually I would like all who doubted ADP to come in here and say "I am not knowledgeable at fantasy football, I did not do my research," because that's what you are and what happened if you thought ADP would do anything but be himself.

I can't throw enough daggers at the people who thought this guy who has never shown any reason that he would not work harder then anyone would not be back to full potential. I notice a lot of the ADP cant do it posters have not come back.

STOP LISTENING TO THE NFL MEDIA TALKING HEADS, THEY DO NOT KNOW A THING. Follow the beat writers that are not on ESPN all the time, they know more, and are not persuaded to just throw stuff out there to be on TV.

 

[Phenix]

This man is an absolute freak of nature. Safe to say he is one of the greatest running backs to ever play the game. Watching him play is like watching michael Angelo paint the sisteenth chapel. I was a total skeptic about him coming off that acl. I will never doubt purple Jesus again. Matchup proof!

Amen!

 

[DeaLerZ]

Is he worth taking a gamble on in the 2nd round? Do you think he will hold up?

No. I see nothing but downside here. There's virtually no hope at all he'll produce top 5 type numbers for you, since even if his rehab went greatest-rehab-in-human-history well, the Vikes will still coddle him for a year. With capable guys in Gerhart and Harvin to share the running load, it would be insane for them to give Peterson huge numbers of touches. Without those, there are plenty of guys available in the same area of the draft that DO give you the chance to radically outscore their draft position.People are reaching for ADP early because they're thinking, "well, if he can just surprise us and be the ADP of old, then..."

Stop thinking like that. You can't possibly get old ADP, because this guy isn't going to sniff old ADP's touches. Add to that the very real chance he's not 100% only 8 months out from destroying his knee, and I don't see the value.

Post of the week.

Agreed. People see the name and think oh wow I can get Adrian Peterson in the 2nd round, what great value. But that's really not a well thought out decision IMO. It's based more on the emotion of grabbing a guy who, if not for the knee injury, would be the #1 player on many draft boards.

But the knee injury is there. The guy completely tore the ACL AND MCL late in the season. His ACL was replaced with his petellar tendon. I am impressed with how fast his recover has gone but he's still human. I cant help but think about how quickly Jerry Rice was recovering and what happened to him.

Doesnt mean that the same thing will happen with Peterson but the odds are not in his favor. Overwhelmingly so. And the real caution flag is there is just no way he gets the number of touches he typically gets as Zeff points out.

It's a high risk gamble without the potential for a high return IMO. Just a bad proposition. Let someone else pay the name price for ADP this year. I'll see what happens and think that next year is when he could become a good value.

I agree with most of this... However, i do think Adrian Peterson is physically gifted, and if there is one guy who can come into the league after an ACL surgery and have a big impact at his position... it's him...

I have seen a lot of people drafting him at the beginning of the 2nd round... so apparently a lot of people are gambling on the risk

I agree he has the potential to be hit or miss this year... but I personally wouldn't rule him out.. he could also be a great RB to have in the ff playoffs even if he doesn't do that great during the regular season... pairing him up with a lot of depth at RB (guys like C.Benson, P.Hillis, D.Martin, S.Ridley can be great fillers until Peterson gets back up to par, and can be had in the mid rounds and potentially put up strong #2 RB numbers, and even borderline #1 numbers given the right circumstances) can give you a potential top 5 RB in the playoffs, which is especially valuable as we get later in the year and there is more of a "chance" that one of your other starters gets hurt at that point...

Obviously, the 2nd round is not the ideal spot for him... but if you can draft a lot of depth behind him I think it could be worth the risk because of his potential to be 100% around playoff time, and potentially give you top 5 rb numbers

and of course there is the outside chance that he performs well all year long

nice to be right about something every once and a while

 

[Dez]

Lots of people eating some crow this year on Peterson.

 

[Dez]

The time to draft AP will be in 2013 after he has a down year and you can get him in the 4th round, a year removed from the surgery.

I think this ship has sailed

 

[Dez]

Just be glad you didn't trade Peterson away for say David Wilson straight up in a dynasty league......or you weren't on a national broadcast every Tuesday night calling him "Non fantasy worthy this year" during the entire summer.

 

[SSOG]

Guess I'm in the minority here because I look at some of those 2nd round RBs and I'd rather have Charles or AP. The potential to give you 80-90% of what he used to be is better than Steven Jackson, Frank Gore or Michael Turner in my opinion. AP also has a very cheap handcuff in Gerhart who is very capable of giving you solid numbers till AP gets back to form.

I just look at the 2nd round and if you want a RB, AP or Charles look the most appealing to me.

Just glad I AP was still there. Charles would have me pulling my hair out right now.

I traded Charles for AP during the off-season after seeing AP jump straight up 4 or 5 feet and run uphill, but I obviously never expected a season like this out of him. On pace for a career year and he's still healing! Unbelievable. I wonder how many people are going to swipe up players right after these injuries now, pointing to Welker and now AP, and just fail.

Not unbelievable after you watch that video of his rehab. Actually quite opposite. Very believable to have this type of year. Anyone who thought ADP would have a bad year did not do their research. Actually I would like all who doubted ADP to come in here and say "I am not knowledgeable at fantasy football, I did not do my research," because that's what you are and what happened if you thought ADP would do anything but be himself.

I can't throw enough daggers at the people who thought this guy who has never shown any reason that he would not work harder then anyone would not be back to full potential. I notice a lot of the ADP cant do it posters have not come back.

STOP LISTENING TO THE NFL MEDIA TALKING HEADS, THEY DO NOT KNOW A THING. Follow the beat writers that are not on ESPN all the time, they know more, and are not persuaded to just throw stuff out there to be on TV.

Please. Healing isn't strictly a function of how hard you're willing to work. It's not like you can just will yourself to full health. It's not like Peterson is just the first really motivated person in human history to ever destroy his ACL.

 

[Funkley]

Fun to read this now but no one could have thought he'd be this good this quick.

 

[Phenix]

Fun to read this now but no one could have thought he'd be this good this quick.

I had zero doubt he would perform.

 

[asuterlowe]

Fun to read this now but no one could have thought he'd be this good this quick.

I had zero doubt he would perform.

The vikings are clearly in a rebuilding year and have a talented back up in Gerheart. The idea that Min would ease him back made sense at the time. I personally thought the biggest thing holding him back would be his coaching, much like we saw with Charles before the Chiefs/Saints game. AP fell to 2.7 in my main league, pretty much where I think he was valued at with all his question marks. I didn't expect this production but anyone writing him off for the whole year wasn't paying attention.

 

[OU#1]

I hope he gets an MVP this year. He deserves it.

 

[Ken Masters]

Hard to believe but I got him with the 24th overall pick paired up with Foster. Could not believe everyone in my league passed on him in the 2nd round. That pick alone will probably win me the league this year.

 

[Phil T]

I looked at his remaining schedule (which is tough) and muttered under my breath that maybe I should trade him now.

Then I washed my mouth out with soap.

 

[steveski]

Lots of people eating some crow this year on Peterson.

I highly doubt there are people out there that made an incorrect prediction on how a player would perform this year.

Hard to believe but I got him with the 24th overall pick paired up with Foster.

Same as me, but I got Foster at #2 and P Jeez at #23.On a side note, I am drunk off my A###$ right now on Sculpin IPA, Tank 7, Dogfish Burton Baton, Oaked Arrogant ******* Ale, Bollinger Special Cuvee, and Ardbeg Uigeadail...#^$%&$%^#$TEGR May the force be with you and the sun forever shine on your back. There are two kinds of people in this world...those who follow the rules and those who make the rules. Love the life you live, and live the love you life. YOu play to wine the game. Playoffs..you wanna talk bout playoffs? Get up you son of a...cause Micky loves ya.

Some good beers. How are you feeling right now?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Fun to read this now but no one could have thought he'd be this good this quick.

I had zero doubt he would perform.

ORLYSo you knew he would be the RB1 after 10 weeks?

 

[Insein]

Fun to read this now but no one could have thought he'd be this good this quick.

I had zero doubt he would perform.

ORLYSo you knew he would be the RB1 after 10 weeks?

Of course he did. You doubtin him?

 

[ncbucksfan]

Pretty pleased with AP here. I drafted him in Round 4 and he is definitely my best RB this season. I hope he continues after their bye week of tearing it up each week!!

 

[Phenix]

Fun to read this now but no one could have thought he'd be this good this quick.

I had zero doubt he would perform.

ORLYSo you knew he would be the RB1 after 10 weeks?

Of course he did. You doubtin him?

Maybe not the #1 back, but for sure Top 5. I have my views pretty well documented on this site for my ADP love, happened a few months ago after I saw the video of his rehab. I believe most could not rehab like that.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Fun to read this now but no one could have thought he'd be this good this quick.

I had zero doubt he would perform.

ORLYSo you knew he would be the RB1 after 10 weeks?

Of course he did. You doubtin him?

Maybe not the #1 back, but for sure Top 5. I have my views pretty well documented on this site for my ADP love, happened a few months ago after I saw the video of his rehab. I believe most could not rehab like that.

Actually you ranked him RB8.And you drafted him in the 4th.

Got him at 4.02 in a 10 teamer, I couldn't be happier. If he falls past the 3rd, it is a no brainer. Upside to get 10 TDs is still there.

So WTH are you to be crowing in here? You're no different than the page 1 posters who said, sure, take him as your RB2 because of the upside, after you take another RB1.And while you're on page 1, check post #5. My 1.05 was Rodgers, and my RB1 was drafted in the next round. Lucked out to get Doug Martin as my RB2 with my 4th rounder. C.J. Spiller in the 7th. Leading my league in points by triple digits because I actually believed from day 1 ADP would be himself.

You're acting like you're Nostradamus. It's absurd. Upside to get 10 TDs? So you basically predicted ADP would have his worst season ever - he's never failed to get double digits in TDs.

 

[Sputnikv8]

Fun to read this now but no one could have thought he'd be this good this quick.

I had zero doubt he would perform.

ORLYSo you knew he would be the RB1 after 10 weeks?

Of course he did. You doubtin him?

Maybe not the #1 back, but for sure Top 5. I have my views pretty well documented on this site for my ADP love, happened a few months ago after I saw the video of his rehab. I believe most could not rehab like that.

Actually you ranked him RB8.And you drafted him in the 4th.

Got him at 4.02 in a 10 teamer, I couldn't be happier. If he falls past the 3rd, it is a no brainer. Upside to get 10 TDs is still there.

So WTH are you to be crowing in here? You're no different than the page 1 posters who said, sure, take him as your RB2 because of the upside, after you take another RB1.And while you're on page 1, check post #5. My 1.05 was Rodgers, and my RB1 was drafted in the next round. Lucked out to get Doug Martin as my RB2 with my 4th rounder. C.J. Spiller in the 7th. Leading my league in points by triple digits because I actually believed from day 1 ADP would be himself.

You're acting like you're Nostradamus. It's absurd. Upside to get 10 TDs? So you basically predicted ADP would have his worst season ever - he's never failed to get double digits in TDs.

OOOOOF.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Vikings always suck. And they have trouble filling their stadium, so if he can play, he'll play.

The missing ingredient here is that not all 1000 or 1200 yard rushers are equal. First of all, AP scored a lot of points in a lot of way because he is a very versatile back. So even with diminished snaps he is still more effective than a cowbell back that depends on carries (and generally goalline carries for a lot of guys).

I laughed.

Me too, but at you for mocking the truth.

Took him in my last draft early 3rd, no way I was passing on him in all 3 of my teams. Its working out great and I think that is my best team.Bobby Layne also just you

 

[Insein]

I feel confident in starting him this week. Yes it is a bye but its AP we're talking about. Somehow, he's going to find a way to get at least 75 and a td from his living room.

 

[Phenix]

Vikings always suck. And they have trouble filling their stadium, so if he can play, he'll play.

The missing ingredient here is that not all 1000 or 1200 yard rushers are equal. First of all, AP scored a lot of points in a lot of way because he is a very versatile back. So even with diminished snaps he is still more effective than a cowbell back that depends on carries (and generally goalline carries for a lot of guys).

I laughed.

Me too, but at you for mocking the truth.

Took him in my last draft early 3rd, no way I was passing on him in all 3 of my teams. Its working out great and I think that is my best team.Bobby Layne also just you

Did He? HmmmWell lets look at that.

Here is my post about ADP...

#8 Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings (Age 27)

Peterson’s knee is going to be fine, so let’s get that out of the way now. However, I should disclose that I’m not a doctor and I just play one on websites. He is not just some running back who tore an ACL; he is a freak of nature. Already sprinting just months after the injury and now making cuts and looking just as good as he ever has. (I have him in a dynasty; I’ve been paying close attention.) Peterson is coming off a career low 209 carries and still has enough miles for this year. He has never posted under double digit scores, so he is great value in the end of the second tier, even if he misses the first few games. This is the kind of guy you want on your fantasy team. He is a beast with something to prove. He is not someone you would make your first overall pick, but second or third? Sure.

Tell me where I went wrong or was owned? To be honest I do not believe I could of hit the nail any more on the head.

Also rankings are subjective to ADP (Avg Draft in this sense, since it is the nickname of the topi as well) and over production together. To be honest I had ADP ranked higher than most. As far as picking him up in the 4th? You kidding me? That is smack some how? Owning my draft and able to get a guy I thought was a second round pick, as I stated in my documented prediction, that I could let slide and pick up.

Oooof, you are right....I WAS

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Still can't believe I was able to trade for this guy in a keeper league 5 weeks ago.

 

[Phenix]

Still can't believe I was able to trade for this guy in a keeper league 5 weeks ago.

Who would move this guy? He has Chicago twice, but I still love his opportunity as he shares with no one.

 

[TakiToki]

If I were positive before the season, for whatever reason, that AD's knee was fine, I'd have to be a real moron to take a chance on waiting until the 4th round to pick him.

 

[Phenix]

If I were positive before the season, for whatever reason, that AD's knee was fine, I'd have to be a real moron to take a chance on waiting until the 4th round to pick him.

Or a real shark.

 

[TakiToki]

If I were positive before the season, for whatever reason, that AD's knee was fine, I'd have to be a real moron to take a chance on waiting until the 4th round to pick him.

Or a real shark.

One of the two. Maybe you can read souls.