Elevencents
Footballguy
Anyone’s guess! Amazed at where he was being drafted this year. For his sake, I’m a fan of Cooper, I hope he either gets out of Oakland or they figure out a way to ger him the ball.
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What we learned after week 1 (1 Viewer)
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Survivor7700
Footballguy
I drafted him in Round 4. I don’t think he is a bust by all means and I am glad I have some decent depth at WR, but he might sit out this week.
Did you mean to quote me twice? I'm not sure what a devil bra is or what that number refers to.
However, in regard to your first line, what bluff are you calling me on? You are the one saying Lindsay will outscore Freeman. I'm the one calling your bluff. Without an injury, that will not happen.
The obvious game plan was to stay away from the top corners and get the ball to the TE and RB for the Raiders. I think they over did it. Carr seemed to throw away the ball before it was necessary. I'm wondering if he would have stuck in there an extra second if he could have hit Cooper or Nelsen. I fear what will happen when he faces a team with dominate edge rushers.
My plan was to draft Lindsay with my last pick in all of my drafts but I can't seem to trust my gut and didn't. I've heard the drumbeat since the Broncos picked him up and it has only gotten louder. I originally thought he would only be a 5 or 6 play a game gadget guy. If he is going to get this many touches he is going to be possibly the waiver pick up of the year. The question is do others in my leagues feel that way?
What percentage of FAAB do you think he is worth?
Elevencents
Footballguy
I threw 33% at him in one league where I’m dreadfully weak at RB.
I don’t expect anything groundbreaking but there’s no one else out there I need so thought it may be worth it.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
I am the "week 1 means nothing" guy, but I've seen the Lions enough to know where this is headed.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
I figured $25 would get him. Nope, another owner spent $150 of his $300 on him. I might regret this as I drafted him in our rookie draft then cut him for roster cut downs.
Elevencents
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
Yikes.
I'm happy to have him in one league I drafted him late (60 rounds, 16 teams) but I'm not paying that much to get him.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
I don't know about the others, but I wouldn't worry about Drake. He got the majority of the work, about twice that of Gore, and he looked good doing it. In fact, the Dolphins offense provided encouragement for those of us who had concerns about it preseason. I feel better about Drake than I did before.jdoggydogg said:
I currently have a 27% bid for him in a league where I too am thin at RB.
He will have at minimum weekly flex value. He could have league winning upside if things fall his way. I don't think he is a one week wonder based on how he has trended up all off season and seems to consistently make plays.
Maybe I should go higher.
Did you get him or are you still waiting to see?
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Elevencents
Footballguy
Still waiting. It is FFPC and it’s my first year with teams there. I think waivers process Wed/Fri.
ETA: Put in another bid for $371 in another league. Have Gurley, Barber, Jamaal Williams, Breida, Crowell and Powell. Don’t know what I was thinking when drafting RBs - a stable of mediocrity. Amazingly in 2nd thanks to Tyreek.
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cloppbeast
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
This highest scoring opening week in a long time, right? (I heard it earlier but can't remember....middle age
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Hilts
Footballguy
Hot takes:
Miami doesn't need Parker to return.
Amari is a poor man's Ted Ginn.
Kerryon will be getting the bulk of the work for Detroit within a month. He'll underwhelm owners.
Enunwa is the #1 wr for the Jets this year.
Tyrod will destroy Duke's value.
Adrian Peterson will fall apart by week 7.
Miami doesn't need Parker to return.
Amari is a poor man's Ted Ginn.
Kerryon will be getting the bulk of the work for Detroit within a month. He'll underwhelm owners.
Enunwa is the #1 wr for the Jets this year.
Tyrod will destroy Duke's value.
Adrian Peterson will fall apart by week 7.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Plus lets see what happens here rest of the game. 4th Q of Titans/Dolphins is just about to get underway.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Great moments in week 1 history:
2015: Carlos Hyde delivers the spin move of the century and 180/2 on MNF. He would play in 6 more games and score only 1 more TD the rest of the season.
Awful moments in week 1 history:
2015: Adrian Peterson was completely outshined by Hyde on MNF. Some questioned if Peterson's career was over after his 10 for 31 performance. Peterson ended the season as the RB2 in fantasy with 1700 yards and 11 TDs.
2015: Carlos Hyde delivers the spin move of the century and 180/2 on MNF. He would play in 6 more games and score only 1 more TD the rest of the season.
Awful moments in week 1 history:
2015: Adrian Peterson was completely outshined by Hyde on MNF. Some questioned if Peterson's career was over after his 10 for 31 performance. Peterson ended the season as the RB2 in fantasy with 1700 yards and 11 TDs.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I feel like this might be like Mixon a year ago. Gonna look great on film to those who bother to watch, and because of poor O-line / predictable scheme, his box scores won't reflect that.
He is def going to pass Blount quickly, and he can do much of what Theo accomplishes. JBC can be a bit stubborn so you might still see Riddick in the four minute packages and Blount inside the 5, but he has the potential to be close to bell cow status by Thanksgiving.
Manster
Footballguy
It was the Rams D, but Derek Carr checked down all night, and fed Cook over the middle.....I think Cooper needs a better QB.....Carr seems like a good dude, but he just doesn't have it.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I worry he will end up in the doomed role Ameer had: not the GL guy and not the receiving back. It's hard to see where fantasy points come from in that situation.
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Detroit ruined Ameer too. I thought he was a great back coming out of college and was going to dominate the nfl. I still think on another team he would have
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah, I am not sure what went wrong there. He checked pretty much every box out of college. He really seemed best suited for the Theo role so they kind of became redundant.
My best friend is a lions fan so I'm a defacto lions fan and I agree. I'm not sure how they blew that talent but they did
I fear for Kerryon
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
i mean no disrespect my friend, but I'm discounting all of your posts today. I know you're frustrated (we all are) but you seem to forget it's an up/down league. The fun thing about Week 1 is we learn a bunch of stuff to be true we didn't know/believe in PS. The fun thing about Week 5 is half the stuff we thought we learned Week 1 wasn't really true.
The Lions played awful in the first half and were lucky to be down 7. After they tied it up early in the third, it was like those rolling snowballs getting huge in cartoons. Now what do those kind of games actually teach us? Not much of anything. Think Jags blowing out the Ravens in the London game last year. Holy cow, dump all your Baltimore players, especially that putrid defense.
I picked up Collins and the Ravens DST that week. The former was my favorite player to watch, and the latter literally won a couple weeks for me because of monster point totals.
Hilts
Footballguy
Good thing they drafted him so high. When you're as good a team as Detroit you can afford such luxuries.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Oh I know it is for most teams. It's usually just a down league for the Lions though.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Great moments in week 1 history:
2012: Week 1 we saw the emergence of 2 new NFL super star receivers.
Kevin Ogletree: 11 targets, 8 receptions, 114 yards and 2 TDs
Stephen Hill: 6 targets, 5 receptions, 89 yards and 2 TDs
Oh wait Stephen Hill would only score 2 more TDs in the rest of his 2 year career. Ogletree would average 25 yards a game for the rest of the season.
2012: Week 1 we saw the emergence of 2 new NFL super star receivers.
Kevin Ogletree: 11 targets, 8 receptions, 114 yards and 2 TDs
Stephen Hill: 6 targets, 5 receptions, 89 yards and 2 TDs
Oh wait Stephen Hill would only score 2 more TDs in the rest of his 2 year career. Ogletree would average 25 yards a game for the rest of the season.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yep, some events are the beginning of a trend and some are random ourliers. Hard to tell.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
You do realize the Rams have one of the best secondaries in the league, right? If you were expecting huge games from Nelson or Cooper last night, that's not on them.
There was a reason Cook was so prevalent last night -- Gruden had the right playcalls in the first half by targeting weaknesses in their LB corps, and tried to leverage Richard in the same middle/underneath routes when the Rams adjusted.
That said, Carr looked horrendous -- having to account for Donald and Suh is hard enough, but even when there was little pressure, Carr looked really tentative and undisciplined and I absolutely would adjust expectations downwards accordingly for the Raiders passing game. I won't call them a dumpster fire based on Week 1, but I would not be depending on them for value unless this team begins to show they can right their ship.
Exactly. Week one is also an extension of the offseason and preseason to some degree. So I personally look most closely at those for consistency.
IMO some good odds of becoming trends include: upgraded Cincy, Giants and Chargers offenses, Bears and Broncos defenses.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Survivor7700
Footballguy
I have Cooper and I certainly am not giving up on him after just one week. That is why you draft depth.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Is there already a FAB budget thread? I'd be interested to see what people are spending on free agents.
sportsphysio
Footballguy
Well put. Not only did he have to deal with the elite secondary, but also and elite pass rush...Carr did look like crap, but I think I would be constantly looking over my shoulder knowing Donald and Suh were salivating at the thought of smearing me into the turf. Carr's only goal for the night was to get the ball out as soon as possible so he wouldn't eat dirt and/or get injured again. Carr truly looked like he was playing scared, and there was literally no time for Cooper to run any routes. While I'm going to temper my initial preseason enthusiasm for Carr (and Cooper), better times should be on the horizon.
This is correct. Rams have arguabably both the best secondary and the best defensive line in the league - but are horrendously weak at linebacker. So what do you do? Target your TE so much he goes off for 200 yards. Cooper was double teamed most of the game as well.
Oakland doesn't play another elite defense until week 10, with two somewhat tough secondaries (Chargers) mixed in between.
I'm not worried about OAK. Probably try to pick up Cooper if people are panicking. He's going to get fed this year.
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
boilerdave
Footballguy
I had Cooper last year. Gave up on starting him about week 10, dropped him from my roster about week 13.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
The Lions were domed from the moment they hired a pats coordinator. Those coming around after week 1 are late imo
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
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