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What would u pay to aquire Joique Bell? (1 Viewer)
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Sir Psycho
Footballguy
I'm thinking of offering Gore.
I'm a Bush owner.
I'm a Bush owner.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Peterson
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
One large cow, or two calves.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
Don't aim low. Try to trade for Adrian Peterson instead.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
You're right mr roboto, I should have messed with him.
I change my answer to three chickens and a medium sized goat, OP. Can't go wrong there.
I change my answer to three chickens and a medium sized goat, OP. Can't go wrong there.
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I'm slightly confused by the insulting remarks here. I didn't read the OP as trying to help his fantasy team specifically, but the goofy comments seem to indicate it belongs in the AC forum? Seemed like his intent was to establish Joique Bell's value since there probably aren't a whole lot of trades to compare to.
I personally think his value is all over the place and depends on who you ask. I thought it was a legit question. Can someone explain why this doesn't belong in the shark pool so others can avoid making the same mistake in the future? Thanks
I personally think his value is all over the place and depends on who you ask. I thought it was a legit question. Can someone explain why this doesn't belong in the shark pool so others can avoid making the same mistake in the future? Thanks
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
In case you are putting me in that group, please don't. I don't ever try to enforce rules. I just think he should try to trade for a better RB
I was referring more to answers that included livestock and hookersIn case you are putting me in that group, please don't. I don't ever try to enforce rules. I just think he should try to trade for a better RB
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
Kind of agree here. The OP is probably looking for help for his own team, but I think the topic is a good one.
IMO, Bell looks like he's going to get most of the goal line work. I think he's a reasonable flex start at this point. Reggie Bush is obviously the lead dog there, but I don't think the Lions want to give him 25 touches a game. If Bush misses any time, Bell could put up RB 1 numbers in that offense.
MoveToSkypager
Footballguy
I was referring more to answers that included livestock and hookersIn case you are putting me in that group, please don't. I don't ever try to enforce rules. I just think he should try to trade for a better RB
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Pretty sure this has been illegal since 1865.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Shwartz has already stated that he has no plans to limit Bush's workload. This is, IMO, very good news for Bell owners.
Kuz
Footballguy
I ended up doing this exact thing.. I got Bell for Shorts this week.. I really needed RB help & he needed WR help so it was a good trade for both of us..
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Fine, I'll go four chickens and a sheepdog. But no higher.I was referring more to answers that included livestock and hookersIn case you are putting me in that group, please don't. I don't ever try to enforce rules. I just think he should try to trade for a better RB
bostonfred
Footballguy
Bell 2012:
82 rush, 414 yards, 3 TDs, 5.0 YPC
52 receptions, 485 yards, 9.3 YPR
In 8.4 touches a game, he accumulated 899 yards and 3 TDs and over 3 receptions per game.
Bell 2013:
6 rushes, 25 yards, 2 TDs, 4.2 YPC
5 catches, 67 yards, 13.4 YPR
That's only one game, and the Lions won't feature both backs so heavily this season, but here are a few things in Bell's favor:
1) He looks like he will get more touches per game. 10 touches per game would be about a 20% boost in his stats - from 900 yards to 1080. 12 touches a game would bump him into 1400+ yard territory.
2) Bush is already injured. Twice. A dislocated thumb and a hip injury. It didn't slow him down, and he's not expected to miss time yet, but Bush has an injury history, including last year, when he played through pain for a month and a half and his stats suffered. If Bush missed time, Bell would be a legit RB1.
3) Even if Bush is healthy, Bell may be in line for more TDs. Last year, LeShoure had 9 of the Lions' 17 rushing TDs. Stafford had three. Bell had three. This year, Bell already has two in week one, and Bush, despite his 191 yard day, didn't get either rushing TD (he did get a receiving TD). The Lions have a high scoring offense and get a first and goal from the one every time someone interferes with Calvin in the end zone - there's room for Bell to get a big uptick in TDs if things go well
4) He is a receptions machine. In PPR, his 52 receptions last year made him a borderline RB2. With five catches in his first game, that seems like a floor, not a ceiling.
5) He's a 27 year old running back in his contract year. This is his one chance to get a big contract next season. The coaches were impressed by him all offseason, enough to not only move him into the #2 spot, but to leave LeShoure inactive week 1.
Bell looks very similar to a healthy Vereen to me - a guy who will racks up receptions, total yards, and the occasional TD, but who has legit upside if something happens to the starter. In PPR, he could be in for a monster season. In standard leagues, he's a borderline RB2 without an injury to the starter. And in keeper leagues, he's got the potential to take a starting role somewhere next year or get paid by the Lions and continue to be a valuable RB2 type.
I would offer a legit starting WR for him, and I wouldn't trade him unless somebody wowed me.
82 rush, 414 yards, 3 TDs, 5.0 YPC
52 receptions, 485 yards, 9.3 YPR
In 8.4 touches a game, he accumulated 899 yards and 3 TDs and over 3 receptions per game.
Bell 2013:
6 rushes, 25 yards, 2 TDs, 4.2 YPC
5 catches, 67 yards, 13.4 YPR
That's only one game, and the Lions won't feature both backs so heavily this season, but here are a few things in Bell's favor:
1) He looks like he will get more touches per game. 10 touches per game would be about a 20% boost in his stats - from 900 yards to 1080. 12 touches a game would bump him into 1400+ yard territory.
2) Bush is already injured. Twice. A dislocated thumb and a hip injury. It didn't slow him down, and he's not expected to miss time yet, but Bush has an injury history, including last year, when he played through pain for a month and a half and his stats suffered. If Bush missed time, Bell would be a legit RB1.
3) Even if Bush is healthy, Bell may be in line for more TDs. Last year, LeShoure had 9 of the Lions' 17 rushing TDs. Stafford had three. Bell had three. This year, Bell already has two in week one, and Bush, despite his 191 yard day, didn't get either rushing TD (he did get a receiving TD). The Lions have a high scoring offense and get a first and goal from the one every time someone interferes with Calvin in the end zone - there's room for Bell to get a big uptick in TDs if things go well
4) He is a receptions machine. In PPR, his 52 receptions last year made him a borderline RB2. With five catches in his first game, that seems like a floor, not a ceiling.
5) He's a 27 year old running back in his contract year. This is his one chance to get a big contract next season. The coaches were impressed by him all offseason, enough to not only move him into the #2 spot, but to leave LeShoure inactive week 1.
Bell looks very similar to a healthy Vereen to me - a guy who will racks up receptions, total yards, and the occasional TD, but who has legit upside if something happens to the starter. In PPR, he could be in for a monster season. In standard leagues, he's a borderline RB2 without an injury to the starter. And in keeper leagues, he's got the potential to take a starting role somewhere next year or get paid by the Lions and continue to be a valuable RB2 type.
I would offer a legit starting WR for him, and I wouldn't trade him unless somebody wowed me.
Man of Zen
Footballguy
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Probably better to just ask people to post trades involving Bell from their leagues.
Ok. But what is the offense here? Thats my question. Even if the OP's motive was to help him make an offer in his league, couldn't this thread still become a healthy discussion for Bell's value? Does he need to go back and reword his question maybe?
Man of Zen
Footballguy
zoonation
Footballguy
Bush had two rushing TDs reversed after review. He got goaline work. It is not as if he was getting pulled at the goaline. If those balls aren't spotted on the 1 inch line, Bell doesn't even get the opportunity there.
Blick
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
I paid $27 of my $100 FAAB budget and released Chris Givens to acquire him. Becomes my RB3 with Vereen going down.
I think Bell, Pearce and Tate are the discussion for handuff with most upside. Pearce is least desirable to own since Rice has yet to miss a game. So for me I believe Bell or Tate are the most desirable RB handcuffs in fantasy football. I'd rather have Bell myself because his receptions allow for more week to week consistency which gives him stand alone value that I'm not seeing with Tate right now unless you are really thin at RB.
So bottom line to me is if I could have my pick of any non-starting RB I'd take Bell.
As for the TD's he won't be getting 2 every week of course but he'll get plenty of GL work. And even if you removed the TD's he still would have scored 14.2 points and tied Eddie Lacy for RB18 in PPR leagues.
So bottom line to me is if I could have my pick of any non-starting RB I'd take Bell.
As for the TD's he won't be getting 2 every week of course but he'll get plenty of GL work. And even if you removed the TD's he still would have scored 14.2 points and tied Eddie Lacy for RB18 in PPR leagues.
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