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I think it might be informative to Eminence for those of us who are a little older to describe what they were doing at age 22.

I'll start: I was in my last year of college (University of California at Irvine.) All my classes were at night so that I could work full time during the day. I sold ladies' shoes in a department store. I had a second job selling shoes at a shoe store on the weekend. I lived in a 4 bedroom condo with 3 roommates. Between work and school I had a very limited social life. I had a girlfriend (who is now my wife) but she lived in Los Angeles and we only saw each other once a week or so. I did not gamble and tried to save what little money I could.
When I turned 22 I finished my first year of law school. Had three jobs: student attorney at the public defender's office, paid research assistant to our crim law professor, and worked the desk at the law library. Played on several basketball and football teams and played amateur baseball in the summer. It was also at the age of 22 that I dated the ex and proceeded to lay the footprint for FFA stupidity far superior to Em here.

ETA: I'd also note that I had my own apartment, lives 2000 miles from home, and paid for everything on my own.

 
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At 22 I was a trainee at a Fortune 500 company
Did they make you wear that goofy paper hat while working the fry machine?
Nope, they didn't even make me get coffee. Exactly at 22 I was working the systems help desk for six months. Then onto something a little more business relevant. Followed by postings to Hong Kong, Chicago and Sao Paulo. But I did eat alot of McDonalds in Hong Kong. By the time I got to Chicago I switched to Wendy's and Burger King

 
I think it might be informative to Eminence for those of us who are a little older to describe what they were doing at age 22.

I'll start: I was in my last year of college (University of California at Irvine.) All my classes were at night so that I could work full time during the day. I sold ladies' shoes in a department store. I had a second job selling shoes at a shoe store on the weekend. I lived in a 4 bedroom condo with 3 roommates. Between work and school I had a very limited social life. I had a girlfriend (who is now my wife) but she lived in Los Angeles and we only saw each other once a week or so. I did not gamble and tried to save what little money I could.
Also finishing my last year in Accounting. Worked about 30 hours a week. Active social life...girlfriend as well (who is now my wife).

Had a job locked up that fall of my last year of school.

2 roomates in a 3 bedroom apartment.

Didn't really gamble...saved for a ring for my girlfriend and for our honeymoon trip.
Currently 22.

Work as a software engineer for a defense company. Currently taking 2 classes a semester to get my masters in CS. Have been in a relationship with my girlfriend for 1.5 years about. I gamble some but only after maxing out my retirement and having automatic, regular contributions to VTSAX (Vanguard total US Index fund).
Any HEMP in that index fund by any chance?

 
Just watched the Eminence MOP Invitational Video.

That's some primetime shtick, buddy! :thumbup: Keep up the good work. My faith in you is restored.

 
At 22 I was a trainee at a Fortune 500 company
Did they make you wear that goofy paper hat while working the fry machine?
Nope, they didn't even make me get coffee. Exactly at 22 I was working the systems help desk for six months. Then onto something a little more business relevant. Followed by postings to Hong Kong, Chicago and Sao Paulo. But I did eat alot of McDonalds in Hong Kong. By the time I got to Chicago I switched to Wendy's and Burger King
I once played Ping Pong in Ding Dang.

 
I think it might be informative to Eminence for those of us who are a little older to describe what they were doing at age 22.

I'll start: I was in my last year of college (University of California at Irvine.) All my classes were at night so that I could work full time during the day. I sold ladies' shoes in a department store. I had a second job selling shoes at a shoe store on the weekend. I lived in a 4 bedroom condo with 3 roommates. Between work and school I had a very limited social life. I had a girlfriend (who is now my wife) but she lived in Los Angeles and we only saw each other once a week or so. I did not gamble and tried to save what little money I could.
Also finishing my last year in Accounting. Worked about 30 hours a week. Active social life...girlfriend as well (who is now my wife).

Had a job locked up that fall of my last year of school.

2 roomates in a 3 bedroom apartment.

Didn't really gamble...saved for a ring for my girlfriend and for our honeymoon trip.
Currently 22.

Work as a software engineer for a defense company. Currently taking 2 classes a semester to get my masters in CS. Have been in a relationship with my girlfriend for 1.5 years about. I gamble some but only after maxing out my retirement and having automatic, regular contributions to VTSAX (Vanguard total US Index fund).
Any HEMP in that index fund by any chance?
No but I am directly investing in it! :thumbup: I own 5000 shares.

 
Just watched the Eminence MOP Invitational Video.

That's some primetime shtick, buddy! :thumbup: Keep up the good work. My faith in you is restored.
I got a chance to watch it during lunch and my takeaway was this: In pictures he posts, he came off as kind of a lovable loser. When I got to hear him talk, he came off as a d-bag.

 
I think it might be informative to Eminence for those of us who are a little older to describe what they were doing at age 22.
When I was 22 I had my bachelor's degree, I packed up everything I could fit into my used hatchback and drove it cross-country, to LA where I barely knew anyone. Nowhere to live, no job in place. Had a few thousand I'd saved up and used it to score a bare-bones one-bedroom apartment. In a couple of months I had a job as the night driver for a prime-time broadcast-network TV sitcom, delivering scripts & revision pages to actors, producers, and studio & network execs so they could see the changes the writers made overnight as soon as they woke up. Was making about $600 a week pre-tax working 12 hour days. Only used my apartment to sleep & shower between shifts. Had minimal expenses, the usual utilities but I'd call them up and claim poverty and get the poor-people rate. I only worked 9 months a year, when the show was dark over the summer I'd collect unemployment. Had only basic cable and used a descrambler to get the rest of the channels. Spent next to nothing on food, when I was working I'd take leftovers from the craft-service table on set. I was the hero at my poker game when I showed up with 2 chafing dishes with 400 chicken wings and another with 100 potato skins. If the writers I worked for went late and needed dinner from a restaurant, I'd slide an extra meal on there for me and also charge a gift certificate that didn't show up on the bill and use it later when I was out of work. When I went grocery shopping for the office pantry I'd rack up reward points on my account and cash them in later. The big thing was in November the grocery store would give you a free Thanksgiving turkey if you spent $50. I'd get as many as I could store when doing the office shopping and then cook them over the summer and eat a turkey for like a week.

This was before the dot-com bubble burst so I had a Etrade account I'd use to play for some extra cash back when it was easy. Had a sweet little jewish girlfriend with D-cups who was a wildcat in bed. Used to love oral. Almost preferred it to regular sex. She'd say stuff like "Which end do you want tonight, baby?" She'd beg me to allow her to suck me off while I sat on the couch watching a porn movie. We had sex all the time and everywhere. Every morning and every night. On a lifeguard tower in Santa Monica. Clothing store dressing room. Road head. God she was fun.

Made friends with the writers and directors and would go to LA bars & clubs with them picking up the tab. Gambled a bit, poker games, horse races, drives to Vegas every so often. Made friends with a few actors on the way up, big names today who were nobodies then. Got to know a few strippers and some guys & girls who did adult films. Fun groups. Always a party somewhere. Afterward I'd show up at the girlfriend's place to throw her a quick one and sleep on her much nicer bed.

Saved up a little money and by 23 moved into a "luxury" apartment complex. Still had the same scams going to cut expenses anywhere I could. I remember coming in third in some mail-in contest and getting a high-end cell phone I sold on ebay to make rent one month. Made friends with an assistant editor on a reality TV show who would tip me off to who won before the show aired so I could bet on them back when that was a thing you could do. Still bet football and horses on my sportsbook account. Started taking bets for the grips & the rest of the crew on slow show nights. Would pick up the Daily Racing Form on my way in and xerox the entries and take their bets, then call the office for results all day long. "We need to get a drive-on for so-and-so's agent for tonight's show. Also, who won the 4th at Santa Anita?" Charged them a little extra juice and never gave 'em true odds and pocketed some extra cash that way. Still didn't pay for my own food but could usually eat out at some of the best restaurants in the area .

The girlfriend eventually washed out of the LA scene and moved back to NYC, so I played the field. Had a lot of fun, especially when I had summers off collecting unemployment. The summer I was 23 I decided to play poker online during the day. Made about $8000 in 2/3 months by rolling my bankroll into "deposit bonuses" that each site used to promote back in the day. Play break-even $1/2 limit for a few hours, cash out the bonus amount, and roll the whole thing over the next day into another site. It returned a few hundred a day by the end. Got detached from the value of low amounts of money--you can't get upset when you make the right call but the wrong card costs you a $50 pot. So I was always up for whatever was going on at night with my other unemployed friends and whatever trouble we could get into. It didn't matter if I blew a few hundred on strippers one night because it only meant a few extra hours grinding at poker the next day to make it up. Partied whenever. Drank a lot. Saved a little. Made friends with this incredibly hot chick who modeled on the side who'd bring me free weed and spend summer afternoons smoking up in my apartment and watching movies.

Kept working in the industry and taking summers off doing nothing but bumming around Los Angeles. Wherever the wind blew. Grind out a living doing grunt work a while. Bought a nice sportscar. Got a regular job at a fancy studio. Saved a little more and just bought a great house in a very nice section of town. Got a credit score above 800 and six figures in the bank account. Got a cell phone contact list with a few girls who enjoy spending time with me whenever.

Now that I think about it, not sure how this is going to help Em, Tim.

 
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Just watched the Eminence MOP Invitational Video.

That's some primetime shtick, buddy! :thumbup: Keep up the good work. My faith in you is restored.
I got a chance to watch it during lunch and my takeaway was this: In pictures he posts, he came off as kind of a lovable loser. When I got to hear him talk, he came off as a d-bag.
His posts have definitely taken a turn for the worse over the past few weeks but that video sealed his dooshyness for me.
 
Now that I think about it, not sure how this is going to help Em, Tim.
I think that's a definitely superior life. No half measures. Getting things for free without stealing (for the most part.) Racking up rewards and using them for your expenses. Looks like a reasonably debt-free existence, which allowed you to do a lot of insanely cool things. Really doing well at gaming the system, as opposed to letting the system game you. Most importantly, getting a job in the industry you wanted to work in, immersing yourself in that culture, pushing the boundaries, and learning enough to get contacts and get yourself set up in a real career in that industry.

Sounds like a very helpful post to me.

 
Your problem has nothing to do with your ability and/or intention of getting a degree and has everything to do with the notion that you seem to think you are going to earn your money by either gambling or whatever get rich quick scheme pops into your head.

But you don't understand that. Because you have a gambling problem.
I won $300 on Fantasy Football then lost $400 on sportsbetting. What exactly is the problem? I'm down $100, oh no...
A month ago you said you had about $1500 in credit card debt. You said this debt was due to gambling losses. A few hours ago you admitted to filling another $500 into your Sportsbook account from your credit card. We'll just choose to ignore, for now, the margin trading and penny stocks which is actually more dangerous than betting on games.

Let me ask you a question. At least a month ago you said you had $1500 in CC debt. You are now claiming you have $1400 in disposable income to play with every month that was getting eaten by paying off your credit card. Why do you still have credit card debt? It should be almost completely paid off by now right considering you have $0 in your checking/savings account? If the answer is no, then where did the $1400 disposable income go this month?

I already know the answer. I think you need to think about the answer and then re-read some of the posts in here.
I get paid tomorrow, I'll post my exact numbers like I've been doing each payday...
Dude, your issue is you post too many details and you constantly brag on your situation. That is why so many people are giving you crap. In other words, chill out and drop the arrogance. Its embarrassing.

 
Just watched the Eminence MOP Invitational Video.

That's some primetime shtick, buddy! :thumbup: Keep up the good work. My faith in you is restored.
I got a chance to watch it during lunch and my takeaway was this: In pictures he posts, he came off as kind of a lovable loser. When I got to hear him talk, he came off as a d-bag.
His posts have definitely taken a turn for the worse over the past few weeks but that video sealed his dooshyness for me.
See, I give him a ton of credit for the shtick of posting a video and playing into the whole MOP Invitational thing (which is an award for being the best idiot).

 
Just watched the Eminence MOP Invitational Video.

That's some primetime shtick, buddy! :thumbup: Keep up the good work. My faith in you is restored.
I got a chance to watch it during lunch and my takeaway was this: In pictures he posts, he came off as kind of a lovable loser. When I got to hear him talk, he came off as a d-bag.
His posts have definitely taken a turn for the worse over the past few weeks but that video sealed his dooshyness for me.
See, I give him a ton of credit for the shtick of posting a video and playing into the whole MOP Invitational thing (which is an award for being the best idiot).
This isn't surprising to anyone here.

 
Em's take on Sarnoff's post.

"So I guess I should steal from the tils at work, find a way to rack up more "reward points"...then quit this job to find something where I don't have to work in the summer so I have more time to smoke weed and gamble."

 
I think the common themes here of these success stories are that get rich quick schemes. Gambling, smoking weed, video games, and chasing high school chicks is the key to getting ahead. Em is well on his way! :thumbup:

 
NetnautX said:
Eminence said:
TheMagus said:
Eminence said:
TheMagus said:
Your problem has nothing to do with your ability and/or intention of getting a degree and has everything to do with the notion that you seem to think you are going to earn your money by either gambling or whatever get rich quick scheme pops into your head.

But you don't understand that. Because you have a gambling problem.
I won $300 on Fantasy Football then lost $400 on sportsbetting. What exactly is the problem? I'm down $100, oh no...
A month ago you said you had about $1500 in credit card debt. You said this debt was due to gambling losses. A few hours ago you admitted to filling another $500 into your Sportsbook account from your credit card. We'll just choose to ignore, for now, the margin trading and penny stocks which is actually more dangerous than betting on games.

Let me ask you a question. At least a month ago you said you had $1500 in CC debt. You are now claiming you have $1400 in disposable income to play with every month that was getting eaten by paying off your credit card. Why do you still have credit card debt? It should be almost completely paid off by now right considering you have $0 in your checking/savings account? If the answer is no, then where did the $1400 disposable income go this month?

I already know the answer. I think you need to think about the answer and then re-read some of the posts in here.
I get paid tomorrow, I'll post my exact numbers like I've been doing each payday...
Dude, your issue is you post too many details and you constantly brag on your situation. That is why so many people are giving you crap. In other words, chill out and drop the arrogance. Its embarrassing.
why do you hate entertainment?

 
NetnautX said:
Dude, your issue is you post too many details and you constantly brag on your situation. That is why so many people are giving you crap. In other words, chill out and drop the arrogance. Its embarrassing.
This. I smoked pot+ and gambled when I was your age and I turned out all right. Although I had a scholarship and a much better GPA.

 
I think the common themes here of these success stories are that get rich quick schemes. Gambling, smoking weed, video games, and chasing high school chicks is the key to getting ahead. Em is well on his way! :thumbup:
Except for the chicks and the getting rich part.

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
msommer said:
TheIronSheik said:
msommer said:
At 22 I was a trainee at a Fortune 500 company
Did they make you wear that goofy paper hat while working the fry machine?
Nope, they didn't even make me get coffee. Exactly at 22 I was working the systems help desk for six months. Then onto something a little more business relevant. Followed by postings to Hong Kong, Chicago and Sao Paulo. But I did eat alot of McDonalds in Hong Kong. By the time I got to Chicago I switched to Wendy's and Burger King
I once played Ping Pong in Ding Dang.
Crapping pancakes ever since?
 
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The whole "my GPA would be better" schtick holds no weight. You're taking online course at a CC...probably prerequisites. Shouldn't be hard and many people work during college. Try having kids plus working full time (many weeks over 50 hrs) in a job that actually challenges you mentally, while in a graduate program. Once you do that then you still shouldn't complain about ####ty grades.

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
msommer said:
TheIronSheik said:
msommer said:
At 22 I was a trainee at a Fortune 500 company
Did they make you wear that goofy paper hat while working the fry machine?
Nope, they didn't even make me get coffee. Exactly at 22 I was working the systems help desk for six months. Then onto something a little more business relevant. Followed by postings to Hong Kong, Chicago and Sao Paulo. But I did eat alot of McDonalds in Hong Kong. By the time I got to Chicago I switched to Wendy's and Burger King
I once played Ping Pong in Ding Dang.
Crapping pancakes ever since?
:thumbup:

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
msommer said:
TheIronSheik said:
msommer said:
At 22 I was a trainee at a Fortune 500 company
Did they make you wear that goofy paper hat while working the fry machine?
Nope, they didn't even make me get coffee. Exactly at 22 I was working the systems help desk for six months. Then onto something a little more business relevant. Followed by postings to Hong Kong, Chicago and Sao Paulo. But I did eat alot of McDonalds in Hong Kong. By the time I got to Chicago I switched to Wendy's and Burger King
I once played Ping Pong in Ding Dang.
Crapping pancakes ever since?
:thumbup:
I just saw it again recently or I would've missed the reference. "Didn't I pay you a dollar for something?"

 
Sarnoff said:
I packed up everything I could fit into my used hatchback and drove it cross-country

Had a few thousand I'd saved up and used it to score a bare-bones one-bedroom apartment.

Drank a lot.

Got a cell phone
Dude, this is uncanny. It's like we lived identical lives.
 
Anybody else think as Em gets older he turns out just like MoP?
When I was 20 I had a friend who was a lot of fun to party with but really directionless and a bigtime stoner. We'd go to bars and he'd sit there and rip the label off his bottle of Bud. We lost touch and I moved away. 18 years later, my wife and I are in town visiting my parents and we go out to eat. As we're leaving, my mom glanced at the bar and said "Isn't that Doug?". I didn't recognize him at first with his huge pot belly, but there he was by himself, bottle of Bud with the label torn off. The restaurant was about a mile from his parents' house.
 
I think it might be informative to Eminence for those of us who are a little older to describe what they were doing at age 22.

I'll start: I was in my last year of college (University of California at Irvine.) All my classes were at night so that I could work full time during the day. I sold ladies' shoes in a department store. I had a second job selling shoes at a shoe store on the weekend. I lived in a 4 bedroom condo with 3 roommates. Between work and school I had a very limited social life. I had a girlfriend (who is now my wife) but she lived in Los Angeles and we only saw each other once a week or so. I did not gamble and tried to save what little money I could.
At 22 I was finishing up college and got my first job with a Big 5 Accounting Firm after working as an intern summers and holidays for the previous two years. I can't remember how much I was making with them being an intern. But it was more than $11.50 an hour in the mid-90s. And I worked full time from the day I left school to the day I went back to save up enough money to cover all my social expenses for the year in addition to having enough in my actual bank account (checking) that when I graduated and started my job I could afford all the fees associated with getting my own apartment in Philadelphia and moved right in. I made about $47K to start in 1996. That was not a whole boatload of money and I needed to be somewhat frugal. Between rent, utilities, car insurance, parking, etc. I was positive every month, but not by much at first.

I think I went to a casino one time after I started my first job and I lost $200 on a blackjack table in AC in about 6 minutes. I decided I didn't really have the money for that and I just went to the bar and let the buddies I went with flush their money down the toilet. I guess I've never been big on gambling unless it is something I feel I can control like FF or poker. But anyway the point is, I was making more than double what Em is making in almost 20 years ago dollars and losing $200 was a big deal to me.

I worked hard. Like worked my ####### ### off for a long time being on a plane every Monday and maybe not even making it home for a week or two. By the time I was 28 I was making 6 figures. Everything has been pretty awesome from there. Not even a little bit easy, but very profitable. I got myself into a niche market where I now own my own company and I do well. To this day I don't screw around with the stock market or margin trading. I did have some high risk investments in the past. I lost about $80K in the crash of 2007 in my play account and after that I pretty much sat on all my investments and moved them into S&P comparable mutual funds where appropriate. And I stash a lot of it in CDs with guaranteed interest. I'm obviously risk-averse, but I know how hard I worked for my money and I'm not about to bet it all on some random market factor I have no control over and hope I guessed right.

I think I went farther than what I was doing at 22. I guess I was trying to point out that I made all of my money on hard work alone and playing the market has only burned me in the past.

I do have to say I am a complete ####### because I bought $10K worth of Netflix stock back in 2005? when it was only about $13 a share. I sold it when it hit about $35. Yea... ####### = me. I was like.. whatever the cable companies are totally shutting out Netflix I might as well sell and make my profit. #######=me. And I was probably way more educated about Netflix stock than Em is about HEMP.

 
Anybody else think as Em gets older he turns out just like MoP?
When I was 20 I had a friend who was a lot of fun to party with but really directionless and a bigtime stoner. We'd go to bars and he'd sit there and rip the label off his bottle of Bud. We lost touch and I moved away. 18 years later, my wife and I are in town visiting my parents and we go out to eat. As we're leaving, my mom glanced at the bar and said "Isn't that Doug?". I didn't recognize him at first with his huge pot belly, but there he was by himself, bottle of Bud with the label torn off. The restaurant was about a mile from his parents' house.
:lmao:

I like a good beer buzz early in the morning.

 
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