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Look for his passing yards to increase when they play a team that can actually score. When you are up by 17+ at halftime, you wont be throwing very much in the 2nd half.beto said:
good post - I commented as much elsewhere on this board . . .
I have Brees and would certainly entertain a trade for Roethlisberger.
So you are saying he still ranks between 5 and 12, thanks for the insight.
Did you feel Ben was a better QB before the season and this just reinforces your thoughts, or did the performance of Brees and Ben this weekend change your thoughts on their value?If you thought Ben was better all along, I'll not argue that. I'm not agreeing, but I'll not argue.But, if you allow the performances of ONE GAME from each change your thoughts and cause a knee-jerk reaction, then you're probably making the wrong decision.
What is the sell-high value though? He might not "be" any better than last week but his stats will catch some people off guard. The more I think about it, the people who are not in love with their QB probably got a QB5-QB12...which means they have some studs at other positions. Assuming there are some people in my league who are only looking at fantasy points and not looking at the game, field position, or passing yards....what is his sell-high value?
Funny how it works, but Ben will have that same Pittsburgh defense giving him short fields all year long. Arians is throw first. The TDs will be plentiful this year.
109 yards is a bad day?
Good response CrossEyed and I noticed that too, but I'm thinking that was due more to the Browns being broken than the Steelers getting better. I hope for my sake that your right.
Do you guys not count runs over 10 yards?
Yeah, didn't you know that? They're dropping all runs over 10 yds from RBs stats this year.Do you guys not count runs over 10 yards?
I love these guys who think quality RBs all rush for exactly 5.0 yards every carry.
That's the beauty of FWP, he can break a big one on any carry, Barry Sanders had a lot of days like that too...
You can't discount those runs because that is how FWP gets a lot of his yards. It's not like Chester Taylors fluke-ish 95 yard run last year that came out of nowhere. FWP breaks long runs often which gives them validity.
I never knew that a player's value was determined solely by how he performed in your specific fantasy league. Well, hell, it's a good thing you don't play in a TD-only league, or Travis Henry would be completely worthless, right?
He barely played in the preseason, the o-line is still forming as a unit, and he had 109 yards rushing on the road. I'm really not that concerned
This is a good point. FWP is considered a back that you sit against a top defense. He should have done more today. Only 109 yards rushing and -2 yards catching.
The Steelers OL may never form though.
100 yards on the road in week 1? Yup, I'm happy with his performance. If I draft an RB as the #3 guy off the boards and he finishes as the #7 guy on the season, I'm happy with that, too.
The real shark was drafting Big Ben AS your number one in the 7th, 8th round.
what he said . . .The real shark was drafting Big Ben AS your number one in the 7th, 8th round.
I definitely liked Ben coming into the season but had him ranked behind Brees (as did everyone else). I wouldn't trade Brees straight up for Ben after week 1 but I would certainly entertain a trade involving them. In other words I would be comfortable with Ben as my #1 QB.I agree with you though that basing anything on one game is not very smart.
But he did have those runs. Why would you not count them? I've never understood this logic. He DID have those runs.
Yeah, his next four games against the Bills, Cardinals, 49ers and the Seahawks should hurt Big Bens value. How about his week 16 matchup in St. Louis? Two games against the Bengals? Also, his worst matchup, @ Baltimore, week 17.I cant wait to see what Roethlisberger does when the Steelers play against a team that can actually score, so Pittsburgh has to continure passing. Think Romo scores 5 TD's last night if The Giants only score 7 points?I certainly am not saying Big Ben is going to throw 4 TD's every week, but for those of us who had him ranked high, he is sure off to a good start.
Not when my QB1 is Kitna.
Last year his problems could be attributed to the motorcycle accident and the ruptured appendix/lingering med issues, least that is what I suspected. No question he was off last year. Yesterday he looked good but he had short fields and got quick/cheap scores as he was able to exploit a rookie starting CB in Eric Wright. It was apparent to the FS, Brodney Pool, that Wright needed help so he started cheating to Wright's side so Ben went over the top on the FS. Pool has never been considered a good FS. The Browns also lost their nickel DB to a concussion so one set of problems led to another and it quickly spun out of control. The secondary was a mess.I don't know who the Steelers play next week but I wouldn't count on short fields or rookie CBs as a steady diet. Ben looked sharp and has all preseason. He was known for his accuracy up till last year so I think he's back on track. Santonio looked to have taken a stride as did Heath Miller. The offensive line seemed to have trouble keeping the edge rush contained but their was no push up the gut. He needs a stiffer test, yesterday he didn't get much of a challenge. He looked good and his accuracy looks to be back. His line needs to contend with a better pass rush to see if that is a problem. He also needs to face more challenging coverage before knowing how much of an upgrade to give him but his accuracy 'appears' to be back so he's definitely improved IMHO.shadyridr said:
