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Colin Dowling

Colin Dowling

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Now that we are 5 weeks in to the season, its safe to say that a lot of teams are either making moves to salvage the season or get stronger/deeper for the duration. We now have a reasonable amount of data to plug in regarding strength of schedule and we now can start making rash assumptions about playing time (i.e. "McGahee will start getting more touches!" "Rivers won't get in a game until the Chargers start losing!").

Anyway, I thought it would be helpful to have a thread that gives some actual trade info. Rather then let this turn in to a discussion of who got fleeced and who made out, lets try and keep it in the following format....

Team A

Recevied:

Team Comment:

Team B

Received:

Team Comment:

This way, we can keep it simple and people can try and determine what value exists in certain conditions regarding trades.

Please see my next post for an updated listing of players and what they have been traded for. I'll update it as people post trades so we can keep a running list of who has been traded for what.

Please see my 2nd post for an example of an actual trade in this format.

Happy trading!

COlin

 
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PLAYER

Tiki Barber

Traded with Burleson for Harrison and O. Smith

Traded with Mason and Hasselbeck for Culpepper and A.Johnson

Kevan Barlow

Traded with J. Smith for Brady

Traded for M.Pollard

Traded with T.Green and J.Walker for Portis, Moulds, and Vick

Drew Bennett

Traded with Brunell and B.Westbrook for S.Davis, T.Gonzales, and K.Robinson

Ladell Betts

Traded for Dominic Rhodes

Tom Brady

Traded for Barlow and J.Smith

Chris Brown

Traded with Roy Williams and Roethlisberger for F.Taylor, M.Harrison, T.Green

Mark Brunell

Traded with D.Bennett and B.Westbrook for S.Davis, T.Gonzales, and K.Robinson

Marc Bulger

Traded for Corey Dillon

Nate Burleson

Traded with Carr for Fiedler and Burress

Traded with Barber for Harrison and O. Smith

Plaxico Burress

Traded with Fiedler for Carr and Burleson

Traded for M.Clayton

Traded with E.Smith and McCown for Harrison and Jets D/ST

David Carr

Traded with Burleson for Burress and Feidler

Reche Caldwell

Traded with J.Garcia for M.Hasselbeck

Dallas Clark

Traded with Donald Driver for LJ Smith

Michael Clayton

Traded with Tomlinson and Coles for Harrison, Holt, and Dunn

Traded with F.Jones for Suggs

Traded for Burress

Lavereus Coles

Traded with Clayton and Tomlinson for Harrison, Holt, and Dunn

Traded with Henry for J.Lewis and D.Jackson

Alge Crumpler

Traded with McAllister and Mason for Holt, J.Walker, and Pennington

Daunte Culpepper

Traded with A.Johnson for Barber, Hasselbeck, and Mason

Dom Davis

Traded for Harrison and Graham

Stephen Davis

Traded for J. Lewis

Traded with T.Gonzales and K.Robinson for D.Bennett, Brunell, and B.Westbrook

Traded with Roethlisberger for T.Jones and Kennison

Corey Dillon

Traded for Marc Bulger

Donald Driver

Traded with Dallas Clark for LJ Smith

Traded for Eagles D/ST

Ruben Droughns

Traded with Pittman for D.Jackson

Warrick Dunn

Traded with Vick for Leftwich and Stokely

Traded with Tomlinson and Clayton for Harrison, Holt, and Dunn

Eagles D/ST

Traded for D.Driver

Jeff Garcia

Traded with R. Caldwell for M. Hasselbeck

Tony Gonzales

Traded with S.Davis and K.Robinson for D.Bennett, Brunell, and B.Westbrook

Traded with J.Horn for T.Jones

Daniel Graham

Traded with Harrison for D.Davis

Trent Green

Traded with Harrison and F.Taylor for Roy Williams, C.Brown, and Roethlisberger

Traded with Barlow and J.Walker for Portis, Moulds, and Vick

Quintin Griffin

Traded with Pittman for E.James

Marvin Harrison

Traded with O.Smith for Barber and Burleson

Traded with Holt and Dunn for Tomlinson, Coles, and Clayton

Traded with F.Taylor and T.Green for Roy Williams, C.Brown, and Roethlisberger

Traded with D. Graham for Dom. Davis

Traded for Manning

Traded with Jets D/ST for McCown, Burress, and E.Smith

Matt Hasselbeck

Traded for J.Garcia and R.Caldwell

Traded with Barber and Mason for Culpepper and Mason

Travis Henry

Traded for Eric Moulds straight up

Traded with a future pick for Marshall Faulk *keeper

Traded with Mason for E. James

Traded with Coles for J.Lewis and D.Jackson

Tory Holt

Traded with J.Walker and C.Pennington for McAllister, Mason, and Crumpler

Traded with Harrison and Dunn for Tomlinson, Coles, and Clayton

Traded for C.Martin

Joe Horn

Traded with T.Gonzales for T.Jones

Darrell Jackson

Traded for Droughns and Pittman

Traded with J.Lewis for Henry and Coles

Edgerrin James

Traded for Henry and Mason

Traded for Pittman and Griffin

Jets D/ST

Traded with Harrison for McCown, Burress, and E.Smith

Andre Johnson

Traded with Culpepper for Mason, Barber, and Hasselbeck

Chad Johnson

Traded for A.Pinner

Freddie Jones

Traded with Clayton for Suggs

Thomas Jones

Traded for J.Horn and T.Gonzales

Traded with Kennison for S.Davis and Roethlisberger

Eddie Kennison

Traded with T.Jones for S.Davis and Roethlisberger

Byron Leftwich

Traded with Stokely for Vick and Dunn

Jamal Lewis

Traded for S. Davis

Traded with D.Jackson for Henry and Coles

Deuce McAllister

Traded with Mason and Crumpler for J.Walker, Holt, and Pennington

Traded for H.Ward

Peyton Manning

Traded for Harrison

Curtis Martin

Traded for D.Mason

Traded for T.Holt

Derrick Mason

Traded with F.Taylor for K.Robinson and Portis

Traded with McAllister and Crumpler for J. Walker, Holt, and Pennington

Traded for Curtis Martin

Traded with Henry for E.James

Traded with Barber and Hasselbeck for Culpepper and A.Johnson

Josh McCown

Traded with Burress and E.Smith for Harrison and Jets D/ST

Steve McNair

Traded for M.Pittman

Eric Moulds

Traded for Travis Henry straight up

Traded with Portis and Vick for Barlow, T.Green, and J.Walker

Chad Pennington

Traded with Holt and J.Walker for McAllister, Mason, and Crumpler

Artose Pinner

Traded for C.Johnson

Michael Pittman

Traded for S.McNair

Traded with Griffin for E.James

Traded with Droughns for D.Jackson

Traded for Amoz Zereoue

Marcus Pollard

Traded for Kevan Barlow

Clinton Portis

Trade with K. Robinson for F.Taylor and Mason

Traded with Moulds and Vick for Barlow, T.Green, and J.Walker

Dominic Rhodes

Traded for J.Walker

Traded for L.Betts

Koren Robinson

Traded with Portis for F. Taylor and Mason

Traded with S.Davis and T.Gonzales for Brunell, Bennett, and B.Westbrook

Ben Roethlisberger

Traded with C.Brown and Roy Williams for T.Green, Harrison, and F.Taylor

Traded with S.Davis for T.Jones and Kennison

Emmitt Smith

Traded with McCown and Burress for Harrison and Jets D/ST

LJ Smith

Traded for D.Clark and D.Driver

Jimmy Smith

Traded with Barlow for Brady

Onterrio Smith

Traded with Harrison for Barber and Burleson

Lee Suggs

Traded for F.Jones and M.Clayton

Brandon Stokely

Traded with Leftwich for Dunn and Vick

Fred Taylor

Traded with Mason for Portis and K.Robinson

Traded with Roethlisberger and Roy Williams for F.Taylor, T.Green, and Harrison

LaDanian Tomlinson

Traded with Clayton and Coles for Harrison, Holt, and Dunn

Michael Vick

Traded with Dunn for Leftwich and Stokely

Traded with Portis and Moulds for Barlow, T.Green, and J.Walker

Javon Walker

Traded with Holt and Pennington for McAllister, Mason, and Crumpler

Traded for D.Rhodes

Hines Ward

Traded for D.McAllister

Brian Westbrook

Traded with D.Bennett and Brunell for S.Davis, T.Gonzales, and K.Robinson

Roy Williams

Traded with Chris Brown and Roethlisberger for F.Taylor, T.Green, and Harrison

Amos Zereoue

Traded for Michael Pittman

 
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Team A:Receives: Travis HenryTeam Comment: Crummy luck at RB, surplus at WRTeam B:Receives: Eric MouldsTeam Comment: 5 starting quality RBs, only 1 decent WR

 
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Week 6 tradeTeam A gave: Vick + DunnTeam B gave:Leftwich + StokleyComments: Team A had only 1 starting RB (Bell, Foster, CuMart), but had Leftwich backing up Manning. Team B had Dunn backing up Holmes & Chris Brown, but was in need of a better QB.

 
team a:receives jamal lewisteam b: receives Stephen Daviscomments: team a had davis as a backup team b had only lewis and barber(suspension and byes)

 
Week 5Team A receives: Tiki Barber and Nate BurlesonTeam B receives: Marvin Harrison and Onterrio SmithComments: Team A desperate at RB and has Owens.Week 6Team A (same team as above) receives: Plaxico Burress and Jay FiedlerTeam B receives: David Carr and Nate BurlesonComments: Team A essentially traded Carr, Harrison, and O Smith for Barber and Burress. Having McNabb and Owens allowed this to happen.

 
Trade date: Between weeks 5 and 6.Team A:Portis and K.RobinsonTeam B:F.Taylor and MasonComments:Both teams are sick of the under prodution of the respective backs and hope to hit big with whoever my turn it on down the stretch. Both teams feel Portis' value is still higher thaan that of Taylor's and that the Mason for KRob part evens this out.Important note: This trade was accepted at 1st, but then not completed due to bye week conflicts between both teams. I still believe it shows the trade value of the respected players involved though so posted it any way.Edit: Redraft, start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 D

 
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Team A receives:·Davis, Stephen RB CAR·Gonzalez, Tony TE KC·Robinson, Koren WR SEATeam B receives:·Bennett, Drew WR TEN·Brunell, Mark QB WAS·Westbrook, Brian RB PHITeam A is a tradeaholic and wanted to improve his TE position. He also has Corey Dillon, Vick and Griese, and Mason, Stallworth, and Johnson.Team B had no QB to start this week (Manning on Bye) and didn't trust an unhealthy Davis.

 
Team A gets:·Clark, Dallas TE IND·Driver, Donald WR GBTeam B gets:·Smith, L.J. TE PHITeam A same tradeaholic from prior post, now upgrading his WR spot.Team B stacked at most positions (R. Moss, J. Horn, and Q Morgan other WRs) and looking to solidify his TE slot.

 
Just a question: what week is the beginning point? IE: do we want to show trades that happened in week 3?

 
Great thread, Colin. I was asking in this thread what type of trades the guys with surplus RBs were able to swing.

Do you think posters should also mention starting requirements & whether it's a redraft or keeper/dynasty league?

 
KEEPER LEAGUE

Prior to week 4:

Team A receives: Corey Dillon

Team B receives: Marc Bulger

Team A looking for RB help (had Bennett, Barlow, Suggs, Portis) and had Vick as QB alternative

Team B looking for QB help after losing Maddox and Gannon to injury in successive weeks (and not quite comfortable with Leftwich as only QB). Had Alexander, TJones, Foster, OSmith as RBs

Prior to week 6:

Team A receives: Marcus Pollard

Team C receives: Kevan Barlow

Team C seems to be buying low

Team A ... well, I don't know what Team A was thinking since there were TEs of comparable quality as Pollard on the waiver wire.

(I'm Team B)

 
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Great thread, Colin. I was asking in this thread what type of trades the guys with surplus RBs were able to swing.Do you think posters should also mention starting requirements & whether it's a redraft or keeper/dynasty league?
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Good thinking, just edited mine. :thumbup:
 
For Week 5 (keeper league):Team A:Receives: Matt HasselbeckTeam Comment: struggling at QB, and was deep at WRTeam B: Receives: Jeff Garcia & Reche CaldwellTeam Comment: struggling at WR, and had Delhomme as his QB2.

 
After week 1: Traded Martin for Mason (I was strong at RB and weak at WR)After week 5: Flipped Mason along with Henry to 0-5 owner (needing a very good starting WR and a good RB) for Edge. He was desperate to change his roster and had some serious bye week issues this week (week 6). Not complaining at all. (12 team re-draft league)

 
Prior to Week 3

Team A Receives Hines Ward

Team B Receives Duece McCallister

Comments: Team A had Brown and DDavis and absolutely nobody at WR; Team B had Moss, Horn, and nobody at RB.

 
Prior to week 4

Team A receives Donald Driver

Team B receives Eagle DEF/ST

(Keeper league, but neither of these entities are "keeper eligible", so the trade is essentially a redraft trade)

 
For week 5Redraft League that can keep one player (lose pick four rounds before you drafted that player)Team A gets:Joe HornTony Gonzalez Comments: I needed to parse out my RB depth for starting receivers. 16 team league and this trade still left me with CuMart, Deuce and PittmanTeam B gets:Thomas JonesComments: Nervous Jamal Lewis owner who wanted to plug in a like RB to keep winning.

 
Don't we need the WHEN behind these trades in order to put them in perpective?...or are we say saying ALL of these trades transpired this week? :unsure:

 
Before Week 3Team A trades Dominc RhodesTeam b Trades J. WalkerTeam B need to get Edge back up as it looked like he was out for the week. (Should have drafted Rohdes he was WW pickup). Team A wanted Pennington but was willing to take chance on Walker.Before week 5Team A trades Pittman to team B for McNairTeam B just got 300 yard preformace out Delholme and MCnair did not play week 4 and was listed as questionable. Team A had Mcallister,Brown,Tjones and Barlow so Pittman was just trade bait his only QB was Trent Green. Team B need a RB to cover up coming bye weeks.

 
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Redraft League, Start 2 RB's, 3 WR's (.5 pts per reception)Trade went down yesterday:Team A receives:·Warrick Dunn·Torry Holt·Marvin HarrisonTeam B receives:·LaDainian Tomlinson·Laveraneous Coles·Michael ClaytonTeam A is sick of his wide receivers (has Branch, Patten, Gardner, Coles, Clayton) basically no production. Has Taylor, Pittman, SJax at RB now along with Dunn.Team B has other WR in the wings with Rod Smith, Warrick. RB's on roster still include Henry, Staley, McGahee, Dillon. Probably looking for a top tier RB to start every week (instead of guessing wrong matchups between Staley, Dunn, Henry, Dillon for 2 spots), sick of underproduction from his top 2 WR.

 
12-team redraftBefore Week 2:Team A gets: Tiki, Mason, HasselbeckComments: Needed RB after Steven Davis got hurtTeam B gets: Cupepper, Andre JohnsonComments: had RB depth and looked to upgrade QBBefore Week 5:Team A gets: EdgeComments: had RB depth and looked to upgrade RBTeam B gets: Pittman and Q. GriffinComments: Needed RBs after rash of injuries

 
Team A gives: Curtis MartinTeam B gives: Torry HoltTeam A needed better WR to be competitive. They were fine with Shaun Alex and Corey Dillon as their RB's, with Emmitt as bye week filler.

 
COlin shouldn't this be in the assistant coach forum? I did have another post in this thread, basically saying the same, but it was deleted for some reason.
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Maybe. But in the interest of drawing some attention, and considering we aren't rating any trades, I'm leaving it here. I think people will appreciate a central place to try and evaluate player values.COlin
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I really like the idea of this thread Colin and thank you for leaving it here and posting it. I do however have a question:If there is someone we hope to get a value for that is not listed, can we ask about him or do we just have to wait it out and get lucky as someone else happens to post it?
 
COlin shouldn't this be in the assistant coach forum?  I did have another post in this thread, basically saying the same, but it was deleted for some reason.
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Maybe. But in the interest of drawing some attention, and considering we aren't rating any trades, I'm leaving it here. I think people will appreciate a central place to try and evaluate player values.COlin
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I really like the idea of this thread Colin and thank you for leaving it here and posting it. I do however have a question:If there is someone we hope to get a value for that is not listed, can we ask about him or do we just have to wait it out and get lucky as someone else happens to post it?
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See if you can wait for now. We're getting a lot of repsonse in the first half hour...COlin
 
I'll post the trades I have made this year in the leagues that count. :football: Dynasty leagueBefore this season startedTeam A got: Gonzo & 1.04 rookie pick (drafted Fitz)Team B got: Stephen Davis & 2.07 rookie pickComment: Team A needed WR help and knew Fitz would be there.Keeper leagueWeek 2Team A got: Plax BurressTeam B got: Marcus Robinson & Lamar GordonComment: Team A needed WR helpKeeper leagueWeek 3Team A got: Tatum BellTeam B got: Tony HollingsComment: Team B has Dom DavisDynasty leagueWeek 1Team A got: Plummer, Troupe & MN DEFTeam B got: Glenn, Looker, Bledsoe & Cleveland DEFComment: Team A was not high on Bledsoe & needed a backup TEDynasty leagueWeek 1Team A got: PenningtonTeam B got: Plummer & Key JohnsonComment: team A was very high on PenningtonDynasty leagueWeek 5Team A got: Dom RhodesTeam B got: Ladell BettsComment: team B has PortisDynasty leagueBefore season startedTeam A got: Jerry RiceTeam B got: Moe WilliamsComment: team A needed WR depthDynasty leagueBefore season started & before Boldin's injuryTeam A got: Anquan BoldinTeam B got: Duce StaleyComment: team A needed WR helpKeeper leagueWeek 2Team A got: Urlacher, Hearst & 2005 2nd round pickTeam B got: Reshard Lee, Haggans & 2005 7th round pickComment: team B was very high on Lee & Haggans was coming off of a monster week

 
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<!--QuoteBegin-+----></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ( @ --)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dominic RhodesTraded for J.Walker
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:eek:

:rolleyes: You have to put that trade in the right context before week 3 Walker in 2 weeks at scored no td's and about 140 yards.

 
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Phinsfan,Thanks for posting those. I only added the Week 5 trade to the updated list simply b/c the others were made early enough that they reflect more "future speculation" then CURRENT value.Colin

 
Phinsfan,Thanks for posting those. I only added the Week 5 trade to the updated list simply b/c the others were made early enough that they reflect more "future speculation" then CURRENT value.Colin
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:thumbup: No problem. I just added a trade so take a look & maybe add that one
 
Oops, I forgot about another deal I made before week 1Dynasty leagueTeam A got: Losman, K Rob & Tatum BellTeam B got: Fargas, 2005 2nd round rookie pick, Eli Manning & Donald DriverComment: team B wanted Manning bad and team A wanted Bell bad

 
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Week 5:Team A (me) receives:Chris BrownRoy Williams (can protect 10th/later round pick next year in lieu of 6th round draft pick)Ben RoethlisbergerTeam B receives:Fred TaylorMarvin HarrisonTrent GreenWanted to upgrade my second back; think receivers are unpredictable, and Harrison has not been targeted as in the past (I have Stokely on roster); Roy Williams should definitely be worth more than 6th round pick next year; other team wanted Harrison as part of the deal and it was kind of a wash to us; hated to give up Green but he's my backup QB (start Hasselbeck).

 
After Week 5:

Team A ( The Prince of Darkness) receives:

Marvin Harrison

Team A Comment: I'm trying to find a suitable compliment to Andre Johnson and trade of some RB and TE depth (McAllister, Henry, Pittman, Moore, Shockey).

Team B receives:

Domanick Davis and Daniel Graham

Team B Comment: Had Holt, K Robinson but only Lee Suggs, Duckett, and K Jones as his RBs. :X

 
10 team league Team A:Receives: Clinton Portis, Eric Moulds, Mike VickTeam Comment: 3-2 (4th in pts) Team B:Receives: Kevan Barlow, Trent Green, Javon WalkerTeam Comment: 0-5 (10th in pts...by a lot!)

 
Henry:traded henry with coles for Jamal Lewis and Darrell JacksonZereoue:Traded zo for Pittman straight up.T. Jones (trade w/in my league, not me)tj went w/ Kennison for s. Davis and Rothlisburger.Harrison went for Manning straight up, as well.Dom. Davis:went for Duce Staley, A. Boldin, Keyshawn, Bulger, and D. Foster (that's right, 5 players for 1).

 
I'm leaving for the day, so I'm posting now so I can pick up where I left off in the morning.(unless another mod wants to help out and update the main Player post on page 1 while I'm gone... :D )Colin

 
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