What's the value DST this year? (1 Viewer)

[sholditch]

IF Pacman gets reinstated, I could see Dallas being pretty mean this year. I also think Buffalo could surprise with the addition of Stroud and getting Posluszny back. Other thoughts? Sorry if a :honda:

 

[Reaper]

You asked for Value then named Dallas - I think Dallas is going to cost you like a top 5 Defense anyway...

For value, I'm pulling the homer card but, J E T S....

They finally have a wide body in the middle that should help with run support (Jenkins) then they added Pass rushers (Pace and Gholston) who should have a better chance to get to the QB and they already have playmakers in the secondary in Revis and Rhodes.

I think the Jets D should score some TDs this year and be an overall real good fantasy D.

 

[moderated]

You asked for Value then named Dallas - I think Dallas is going to cost you like a top 5 Defense anyway...For value, I'm pulling the homer card but, J E T S....They finally have a wide body in the middle that should help with run support (Jenkins) then they added Pass rushers (Pace and Gholston) who should have a better chance to get to the QB and they already have playmakers in the secondary in Revis and Rhodes.I think the Jets D should score some TDs this year and be an overall real good fantasy D.

looking at FBG's rankings Dallas isn't ranked that high and their Defense is Stacked. Plus they will be up in a lot of their games allowing them to put a ton of pressure on the QB. Their secondary will be lights out with the addition of Pacman allowing them to blitz a ton.Due to the upside of Dallas i think they are the #1 value play at defense this year, assuming their predraft ranking stays in the 6-10 range.

 

[Moldy Potato]

Not that I expect them to finish in the top 10, but the Saints could be a huge value this year. People never think defense when they think of the team, but they could be pretty strong this year considering:

Vilma

Ellis

Bobby McCray

Randall Gay

healthy Mike McKenzie (PFW reporting today that he is expected to be ready for training camp)

 

[JHuber77]

Not that I expect them to finish in the top 10, but the Saints could be a huge value this year. People never think defense when they think of the team, but they could be pretty strong this year considering:VilmaEllisBobby McCrayRandall Gayhealthy Mike McKenzie (PFW reporting today that he is expected to be ready for training camp)

 

[The Jacket]

I've got no idea about ADP, but the two defenses I would imagine have great value are New Orleans, as mentioned above, and KC. Reading comments on various forums, you'd think these two defenses started 22 scrubs and were going to be in the bottom 10 in the league. I see otherwise, particularly with New Orleans as KC's younger players get experience.

I also think the Jets defense will do pretty well, but there's not much value in them from what I've seen.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

I'm going with Tennessee as a value play this year. FBG's has them around 14-15 and they finished around 12th last year. But, if you look closer at last year's numbers, when you remove the 3 games Haynesworth missed, they averaged closer to the top 3. The addition of Johnson should provide an immediate boost to the return game.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

I saw the thread topic and said to myself, I got just the one. Then you said Buffalo - which is the one I have targeted to be a great value.

For one, their Special Teams are always good. They may not be prolific every year, but Terrence McGee had been one of the better return men in the game. He's good for at least 1 TD/year and Roscor Parrish is emerging as a significant punt returner.

On defense, they've added some personnel in Stroud and Mitchell, plus they'll get back Pozluzny who had shown promise prior to his broken arm. Plus, McKelvin should be able to make a contribution in the secondary in 2008 and perhaps expend his role. Schobel is one year removed from a 14 sack season and having Stroud is healthy in the middle should help free him up after he became the one guy on Buffalo's line who warranted extra attention.

In '07 they had 18 INT's and forced 12 fumbles. They now have a bellcow on offense in Marshawn Lynch to perhaps limit the defenses time on the field. Whether Trent Edwards can develop in enough in one off-season to significantly make use of having such a weapon remains to be seen. That said, Buffalo's schedule looks managable too.

I like Buffalo's D as a good value pick here...

 

[Getinthemix]

I really like Houston this year. The ST's are solid with Jacoby Jones and Andre Davis at KR.

Mario Williams and that D Line really stepped up last year and should continue to do so.

 

[sholditch]

Not that I expect them to finish in the top 10, but the Saints could be a huge value this year. People never think defense when they think of the team, but they could be pretty strong this year considering:VilmaEllisBobby McCrayRandall Gayhealthy Mike McKenzie (PFW reporting today that he is expected to be ready for training camp)

Don't forget Roman Harper. HE really came on last year.

 

[Tyrion]

I really like Houston this year. The ST's are solid with Jacoby Jones and Andre Davis at KR.Mario Williams and that D Line really stepped up last year and should continue to do so.

I want to like Houston but where are the sacks going to come from? I know Mario Williams will get his double digits but the other guys on that line have been sack deficient. Amobi Okoye produced 5.5 sacks last year as a rookie at the DT position and that is promising but can he be a double digit sack guy from the DT? Their secondary also concerns me. Their best corner basically had his leg destroyed last season and as a Cowboy fan I don't expect much from Reeves. Maybe the system will help him.I do love the potential of their return game so I do expect flashes next season.

 

[bcr8f]

Green Bay. They are going to blitz a lot more and will run a more aggresive D.

 

[49erBamBam52]

NINERS... believe it!

 

[BigRed]

How is GB "value" when they are a top-rated D (most places I've seen anyway)?

I like BUF and NYJ also - partly because of something I don't think anyone mentioned, ie the schedule. Yeah you have NE, but the rest of that div doesn't exactly look to light it up.

 

[dmac37]

I like the combo of the Saints and Raiders. I know teams change from year to year but between the two there seems to be some good matchups, and both Def. can be had dirt cheap.

NO OAK

1 TB DEN

2 @WAS @KC

3 @DEN @BUF

4 SF SD

5 MIN BYE

6 OAK @NO

7 @CAR NYJ

8 SD @BAL

9 BYE ATL

10 @ATL CAR

11 @KC @MIA

12 GB @DEN

13 @TB KC

14 ATL @SD

15 @CHI NE

16 @DET HOU

 

[bcr8f]

How is GB "value" when they are a top-rated D (most places I've seen anyway)?

I like BUF and NYJ also - partly because of something I don't think anyone mentioned, ie the schedule. Yeah you have NE, but the rest of that div doesn't exactly look to light it up.

They are rated 16. That's right in the middle. They will vastly outperform that imo. Buffalo's 11 and the Jets are 22. I like GB better than the Bills.

 

[sholditch]

NINERS... believe it!

I was actually thinking of putting them up there. They have superior personnel at LB and DB but I wonder about their line. If they had a DE to get excited about I would be more on board. Any developments there?

 

[valhallan]

How is GB "value" when they are a top-rated D (most places I've seen anyway)?I like BUF and NYJ also - partly because of something I don't think anyone mentioned, ie the schedule. Yeah you have NE, but the rest of that div doesn't exactly look to light it up.

AFC East is playing the NFC West too... SF, StL, and possibly Arz could be turnover bonanzas

 

[BigRed]

How is GB "value" when they are a top-rated D (most places I've seen anyway)?

I like BUF and NYJ also - partly because of something I don't think anyone mentioned, ie the schedule. Yeah you have NE, but the rest of that div doesn't exactly look to light it up.

They are rated 16. That's right in the middle. They will vastly outperform that imo. Buffalo's 11 and the Jets are 22. I like GB better than the Bills.

OK thought the consensus was a lot higher, my bad

 

[49erBamBam52]

NINERS... believe it!

I was actually thinking of putting them up there. They have superior personnel at LB and DB but I wonder about their line. If they had a DE to get excited about I would be more on board. Any developments there?

They are reportedly using Justin smith in more of a pass-rushing role than cincy had in the past. he was a mad man at run stopping so I’m not sure if this is good or bad, but i know last year when the niners played cincy, he was in our backfield pressuring the QB almost every play... he didn’t get any sacks that game (maybe one...can’t remember) but he definitely affected the outcome of the game. this game, it is hypothesized, is why the niner FO went after him so vigorously in FA this year.They drafted Kentwan Balmer (who could end up being good, but hey, he’s a rookie) to replace Young, and moved Isaac Sopoaga (soap, we call him) to DE instead of NT where he more naturally fits. Soap should tear it up at DE, cause that guy can eat up blockers and still make tackles, he's a beast, who has been largely untapped as of yet. they kept trying to make a NT out of him, but that didn’t work.The other spot the niners are weak at on D is ILB (Patrick Willis aside). They have only three other LB to play next to him inside, one is a 4 year vet who has started 2-3 games (Thomas), another who is a 7th rd draft pick (out of UMiami, can’t remember his name atm) and the third is a very experienced (but under sized, and not very good) guy, in Ulbrich.If Thomas shows up and does well next to Willis, and the DL moved prove to work out, this D will be unstoppable (that is if the offense can keep them off the friggin field)BAM

 

[sfl49er]

NINERS... believe it!

I was actually thinking of putting them up there. They have superior personnel at LB and DB but I wonder about their line. If they had a DE to get excited about I would be more on board. Any developments there?

They are reportedly using Justin smith in more of a pass-rushing role than cincy had in the past. he was a mad man at run stopping so I’m not sure if this is good or bad, but i know last year when the niners played cincy, he was in our backfield pressuring the QB almost every play... he didn’t get any sacks that game (maybe one...can’t remember) but he definitely affected the outcome of the game. this game, it is hypothesized, is why the niner FO went after him so vigorously in FA this year.They drafted Kentwan Balmer (who could end up being good, but hey, he’s a rookie) to replace Young, and moved Isaac Sopoaga (soap, we call him) to DE instead of NT where he more naturally fits. Soap should tear it up at DE, cause that guy can eat up blockers and still make tackles, he's a beast, who has been largely untapped as of yet. they kept trying to make a NT out of him, but that didn’t work.

The other spot the niners are weak at on D is ILB (Patrick Willis aside). They have only three other LB to play next to him inside, one is a 4 year vet who has started 2-3 games (Thomas), another who is a 7th rd draft pick (out of UMiami, can’t remember his name atm) and the third is a very experienced (but under sized, and not very good) guy, in Ulbrich.

If Thomas shows up and does well next to Willis, and the DL moved prove to work out, this D will be unstoppable (that is if the offense can keep them off the friggin field)

BAM

Larry Grant, from Ohio State-first Junior College player personally recruited by 'The' Jim Tressel; blocked over 10 kicks in his whole college career. Played running back and all three LB pos. at OSU, and is fast enough to be used in the nickel, but should lose 15-20 pounds to help in coverage. I dont think he'll start though over Dontarrius Thomas