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When did the definition of terms stop mattering? (1 Viewer)

Or maybe how so many people use "literally" to mean the exact opposite of what it actually means.
someone else here pointed out a couple years ago that Cambridge and Webster's dictionaries equate the meaning of literally and figuratively.  amazed me.

guess i could care less.

 
I don't remember him directly being called a Nazi, but I think you could make the argument he was a Nazi sympathizer after his Charlottesville comments.

In reality I just think he's incapable of saying something negative about something that he thinks has the possibility of growing his power/wealth.


I don't think Trump sympathizes with neo-Nazis. I think neo-Nazis sympathize with Trump and he welcomes their sympathy insofar as he can profit from it.

I suspect that's how Trump feels about basically all of his supporters.

 
I don't think Trump sympathizes with neo-Nazis. I think neo-Nazis sympathize with Trump and he welcomes their sympathy insofar as he can profit from it.

I suspect that's how Trump feels about basically all of his supporters.
Exactly

Similarly, I don’t think Trump especially dislikes or looks  down on black people.  I think he looks down on anyone not Trump and dislikes anyone that’s not a sycophant.

 
Do you not cater to the transgender agenda which has inflicting social media, our institutions and our educational system?  You seem to be critical of my synopsis of the issue but not so critical of the craziness going on.  
I’m not critical of your synopsis.  I literally have no idea what your point is — other than you think there is a “transgender agenda.”

 
I don't think Trump sympathizes with neo-Nazis. I think neo-Nazis sympathize with Trump and he welcomes their sympathy insofar as he can profit from it.

I suspect that's how Trump feels about basically all of his supporters.
Yeah.  This seems spot on.  It’s hard to imagine welcoming the support and sympathy of neo-Nazis.   But politicians often make a deal with the devil…..

 
I’m not critical of your synopsis.  I literally have no idea what your point is — other than you think there is a “transgender agenda.”


You denying the existence of the political power of the lgbqt+ community and their agenda?  I suppose the thousands of people cancelled and businesses closed might suggest otherwise. 

 
And I see the term fascist best applies to social justice warriors and wokism and their impact is far bigger and leading us is down a horrific path of a totalitarian society where the concept of family is being completely destroyed.  Wokism is creating a society of individuals consumed by narcissism with the most worthless generation of complainers and victims ever seen.  There is nothing positive coming from wokism.  It is a population who will be completely dependant upon a massive and powerful corporate-government  support system to provide for their insane needs.  The mass physchosis which is inflicting the current generation will demand a fascist like solution to provide for their safe spaces and to take care of these non-functional beings.  
If you've read my posts in the woke thread, you know I'm strongly against it.

In terms of how problematic it is compared to 1/6, it's not even a small fraction of it. I'm incredulous that you point to that while ignoring the threat to democracy. Without democracy, none of this other stuff exists.

 
You denying the existence of the political power of the lgbqt+ community and their agenda?  I suppose the thousands of people cancelled and businesses closed might suggest otherwise. 
Sorry, is it an lgbqt+ agenda?  Or just a trans agenda?  What does the trans agenda consist of?  I’m obviously not up on all this stuff.

 
Sorry, is it an lgbqt+ agenda?  Or just a trans agenda?  What does the trans agenda consist of?  I’m obviously not up on all this stuff.


Oh, they all share in the cancel culture.  In addition the trans community has a bit more of a diabolical agenda.   Pushing hormone blockers on children and coaching them on the appropriate answers to tell the doctors.  Promoting dangerous and unnecessary surgeries like removing breasts, uterus, and penises of children.  

 
someone else here pointed out a couple years ago that Cambridge and Webster's dictionaries equate the meaning of literally and figuratively.  amazed me.
Someone here either lied to you or these places have since changed their definitions.

Cambridge dictionary literally has the word literally as the opposite of figuratively.

 
Some of the recent threads and discussion reminded me of something I've wondered about for a while.  When did the definitions of terms stop mattering?

Fascist, Liberal, Marxist, Conservative, Socialist, etc...  All these words just get tossed around and used totally incorrectly by people.  I know in some cases it's intentional to label folks, or scare other folks or just out of ignorance but it's gotten to the point that these labels are meaningless.


Direct Headline: ‘I’ve Never Met A Latinx’: Van Jones Says The Way Liberals Talk Is ‘Just Weird’

CNN’s Van Jones said Friday that Democrats were having trouble reaching middle class Americans because some of their marketing strategies were “just weird” and didn’t appeal to regular, working people....Jones spoke with “New Day” anchors John Berman and Brianna Keilar about Democratic prospects going into November’s midterm elections, and he argued that the party did not appear to have a cohesive message that was resonating with the people in the middle...

....Jones began by explaining that the Democratic Party was quickly becoming “the party of the very high and the very low,” saying that they were working so hard to please the academic elites and those at the very bottom of the food chain that the largest group — the middle — was getting lost.....

“If you pull out the working class, you’ve got people who are very well educated and very well off. Those people talk funny — Latinx? I’ve never met a Latinx. I’ve never met a BIPOC. I’ve never met — you know — all this weird stuff that these highly-educated people say, it’s bizarre. Nobody talks that was at the barber shop, the nail salon, the grocery store, the community center — but that’s how we talk now, so that’s weird.”

“And then the people who are very low down on the economic ladder need a bunch of stuff,” Jones continued. “You wind up overpromising — you know, ‘We’ve gotta give you reparations,’ to people at the bottom of the economic ladder, talking weird to appeal to people at the top of the economic ladder, and the working class walks away from you. That is the danger we’re facing.....”

By Virginia Kruta Jun 17, 2022  

https://www.dailywire.com/news/ive-never-met-a-latinx-van-jones-says-the-way-liberals-talk-is-just-weird

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Who gets to decide the "correct" usage of those terms? You?

I'll keep it simple.

The majority of parents do not want their tax dollar spent in public schools in some screwed up attempt to sexualize their children or convince those kids that they are transgender or soak innocents in the idea that they were born racist and should be ashamed of that.

The majority of the working class do not want to see the cost of basic living explode while some smug idiot like Buttigieg, after taking months off the job while infants were starving from no baby formula and in the middle of a supply chain crisis, says the best thing to do is to go buy an electric car that the majority of American's can't afford.

The majority of Americans don't want our country flooded with illegal immigrants and the implied cost of drugs, crime and total tax dollar cost they create here. They also don't want career criminals and the homeless to invade the streets and take away basic civil order.

The majority of Americans find what happened in Afghanistan to be disgusting and unforgivable. Billions of our weapons, paid with our tax dollars, were left in the hands of terrorists, to kill future generations of our citizens, while the entire nation became a laughingstock around the world. What about our national security?

The majority of Americans don't want "culture wars" involving pronouns and whom plays what sports when every day people worry about their kid's mental health from all those lockdowns, the cost of food and the cost of gasoline and the out of control pricing of basic housing.

There's an endless list of failures and scandal coming from the same Party and the same administration and the same imbeciles holding current power.

"Label" them how you like, the every day working class are angry and the chickens are coming home to roost.

When you talk about "labels", you sound like every other disconnected Limousine Liberal who pushes some fringe issue and tries to ignore the rank and file citizen then attempts to run over the core material working class needs of our society - Food on the table. A roof over your head. Safety for your children.

You talk about "ignorance" while the wealthy "elite" like a Pelosi spits in the face of the working class. And your biggest gripe is "labels"?

Here's a simple label - The same political Party keeps pushing public policy and behavior and elected officials who keep doing and saying idiotic things that make it easier for America's children to die.

"To scare other folks" - Are you insane?  Of course people should be scared. They don't know if Putin will launch nukes. They don't know if a tottering old racist in charge who can't walk up a flight of stairs will launch nukes. There's a worldwide pandemic. Inflation is going out of control. No one is sure they are safe anymore walking down the streets, lest some no bail career criminal murders them or they are caught in a mass shooting. The cost of living makes people worry that they will soon be homeless. The lines to food banks are growing by the day. The entire world around us is in chaos as well. The media is openly lying to everyone and they don't seem to care that everyone knows. No one knows what the impact of all this social media and these lockdowns did to all these young children here. The list is endless.

You think every day working class people are only scared because of 'labels'?  Is that what you are pushing here?

Terrorists around the globe who want to destroy our way of life - "We want to crush the United States and see it burn!"

The American radical left and the core of the establishment Democrats - "Hold my beer"

Van Jones is talking about people just like you.

 
Get ready for the new definition of "Recession" LINK
The thing you quoted literally points out that two quarters of negative GDP isn't the definition of a recession.

Unless you mean that right-wing trolls are going to insist that a recession be defined differently to make sure there's a recession on Biden's watch?

Experts declare a recession when a nation's economy experiences negative gross domestic product (GDP), rising levels of unemployment, falling retail sales, and contracting measures of income and manufacturing for an extended period of time.
How does NBER define recession?

A: The NBER's traditional definition of a recession is that it is a significant decline in economic activity that is spread across the economy and that lasts more than a few months.
In general usage, the word recession connotes a marked slippage in economic activity. While gross domestic product (GDP) is the broadest measure of economic activity, the often-cited identification of a recession with two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth is not an official designation. The designation of a recession is the province of a committee of experts at the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), a private non-profit research organization that focuses on understanding the U.S. economy. The NBER recession is a monthly concept that takes account of a number of monthly indicators—such as employment, personal income, and industrial production—as well as quarterly GDP growth. Therefore, while negative GDP growth and recessions closely track each other, the consideration by the NBER of the monthly indicators, especially employment, means that the identification of a recession with two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth does not always hold. 

 
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The thing you quoted literally points out that two quarters of negative GDP isn't the definition of a recession.
Correct. That was the point of posting it.

From Forbes:

In 1974, economist Julius Shiskin came up with a few rules of thumb to define a recession: The most popular was two consecutive quarters of declining GDP

This was the rule I've most frequently heard in the past.

 
I would say racist is the most glaring example.  That's the leftist go-to when someone isn't in agreement with them, whether they are racist, or not.
"racist" is the other side of the "I can't make a cogent argument so I'm going to name call" coin from "communist, socialist, marxist".  

 
"racist" is the other side of the "I can't make a cogent argument so I'm going to name call" coin from "communist, socialist, marxist".
"Groomer" being added to the list.

That is a very biased way of seeing things. Racist is a term thrown out like candy at anyone and everyone who professes conservative ideas. Groomer is a used in a very specific way for people who are sexualizing young children and trying to get them to adopt sexual identities at an age where
kids barely understand what sex even is.

Groomer is a term which has really struck the nerve in the LBGT+ community because it effectively characterizes their agenda. So much so that Twitter has started to permaban people for using it. The anti-free speech fascist have long taken over our big tech monopoly speech platforms.

Of course all this platform cares about is one protest which got out of control and caused an inconvenience. That is somehow a continuing threat to our freedoms. We will ignore the actual elimination of freedom of speech which is occurring on the most massive basis ever seen in this country. We only need to be concerned about some guy who stole a coat rack or sprayed some bear spray. Those guys are the real threat to us. Our most fundamental freedoms be damned.
 
"racist" is the other side of the "I can't make a cogent argument so I'm going to name call" coin from "communist, socialist, marxist".
"Groomer" being added to the list.

That is a very biased way of seeing things. Racist is a term thrown out like candy at anyone and everyone who professes conservative ideas. Groomer is a used in a very specific way for people who are sexualizing young children and trying to get them to adopt sexual identities at an age where
kids barely understand what sex even is.

Groomer is a term which has really struck the nerve in the LBGT+ community because it effectively characterizes their agenda. So much so that Twitter has started to permaban people for using it. The anti-free speech fascist have long taken over our big tech monopoly speech platforms.

Of course all this platform cares about is one protest which got out of control and caused an inconvenience. That is somehow a continuing threat to our freedoms. We will ignore the actual elimination of freedom of speech which is occurring on the most massive basis ever seen in this country. We only need to be concerned about some guy who stole a coat rack or sprayed some bear spray. Those guys are the real threat to us. Our most fundamental freedoms be damned.
I do see racist used by the right also against the left, but it doesn’t have near the effect.
 
"racist" is the other side of the "I can't make a cogent argument so I'm going to name call" coin from "communist, socialist, marxist".
"Groomer" being added to the list.

That is a very biased way of seeing things. Racist is a term thrown out like candy at anyone and everyone who professes conservative ideas. Groomer is a used in a very specific way for people who are sexualizing young children and trying to get them to adopt sexual identities at an age where
kids barely understand what sex even is.

Groomer is a term which has really struck the nerve in the LBGT+ community because it effectively characterizes their agenda. So much so that Twitter has started to permaban people for using it. The anti-free speech fascist have long taken over our big tech monopoly speech platforms.

Of course all this platform cares about is one protest which got out of control and caused an inconvenience. That is somehow a continuing threat to our freedoms. We will ignore the actual elimination of freedom of speech which is occurring on the most massive basis ever seen in this country. We only need to be concerned about some guy who stole a coat rack or sprayed some bear spray. Those guys are the real threat to us. Our most fundamental freedoms be damned.
I do see racist used by the right also against the left, but it doesn’t have near the effect.

That is because the left has been empowered to be racists and use every derogatory means to dehumanize conservatives because conservatives are the embodiment of the white male oppressors and using clearly bigoted rhetoric against oppressors is not bigotted. Dehumanizing white people is not only perfectly OK, it is encouraged.
 
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"racist" is the other side of the "I can't make a cogent argument so I'm going to name call" coin from "communist, socialist, marxist".
"Groomer" being added to the list.

That is a very biased way of seeing things. Racist is a term thrown out like candy at anyone and everyone who professes conservative ideas. Groomer is a used in a very specific way for people who are sexualizing young children and trying to get them to adopt sexual identities at an age where
kids barely understand what sex even is.

Groomer is a term which has really struck the nerve in the LBGT+ community because it effectively characterizes their agenda. So much so that Twitter has started to permaban people for using it. The anti-free speech fascist have long taken over our big tech monopoly speech platforms.

Of course all this platform cares about is one protest which got out of control and caused an inconvenience. That is somehow a continuing threat to our freedoms. We will ignore the actual elimination of freedom of speech which is occurring on the most massive basis ever seen in this country. We only need to be concerned about some guy who stole a coat rack or sprayed some bear spray. Those guys are the real threat to us. Our most fundamental freedoms be damned.
I do see racist used by the right also against the left, but it doesn’t have near the effect.

That is because the left has been empowered to be racists and use every derogatory means to dehumanize conservatives because conservatives are the embodiment of the white male oppressors and using clearly bigoted rhetoric against oppressors is not bigotted. Dehumanizing white people is not only perfectly OK, it is encouraged.
Gotta say, I didn't miss this stuff in the last week. Hopefully others had a similar week away from this place, and the ignore function is better on these new boards.
 
1. When a prior president started capitalizing words in tweets for no legitimate reason;
2. When "literally" was officially defined as "figuratively" in the dictionary.
 
"racist" is the other side of the "I can't make a cogent argument so I'm going to name call" coin from "communist, socialist, marxist".
"Groomer" being added to the list.

That is a very biased way of seeing things. Racist is a term thrown out like candy at anyone and everyone who professes conservative ideas. Groomer is a used in a very specific way for people who are sexualizing young children and trying to get them to adopt sexual identities at an age where
kids barely understand what sex even is.

Groomer is a term which has really struck the nerve in the LBGT+ community because it effectively characterizes their agenda. So much so that Twitter has started to permaban people for using it. The anti-free speech fascist have long taken over our big tech monopoly speech platforms.

Of course all this platform cares about is one protest which got out of control and caused an inconvenience. That is somehow a continuing threat to our freedoms. We will ignore the actual elimination of freedom of speech which is occurring on the most massive basis ever seen in this country. We only need to be concerned about some guy who stole a coat rack or sprayed some bear spray. Those guys are the real threat to us. Our most fundamental freedoms be damned.
I do see racist used by the right also against the left, but it doesn’t have near the effect.

That is because the left has been empowered to be racists and use every derogatory means to dehumanize conservatives because conservatives are the embodiment of the white male oppressors and using clearly bigoted rhetoric against oppressors is not bigotted. Dehumanizing white people is not only perfectly OK, it is encouraged.
Gotta say, I didn't miss this stuff in the last week. Hopefully others had a similar week away from this place, and the ignore function is better on these new boards.

Ignoring reality is the easiest way to avoiding the truth. Leftists are righteous and any criticism must be silenced . Conservatives are evil and must be punished.

Fortunately this forum has not given into all the Leftists attempts to silence the opposition, so you must resort to ignoring.
 

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