Cliff Clavin
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Never said it should. Just implied that wackos like Otis will be screaming to nuke everyone while progress is being made.
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When do we go in and wipe out ISIS? (3 Viewers)
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SaintsInDome2006
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https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/667095409467203584
What Isis is doing with oil supply centers which we permit to exist... I have no idea.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
When are you getting together with emminence, RBM, TPW and Grandpa Rox for the big slumber party?
Otis
Footballguy
I understand I'm not in great company here. But sometimes you just need to brave when you're right.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
It's dark and threatening to drop under 50 degrees. Let's see you brave those elements
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I am not sure brave means what you think it means. At least not when posting in a message board on the internet.
John Bender
Footballguy
Couple questions I had not meant to bother anyone...
The likelihood that something will happen in the US is pretty great I'd suppose at this point? The method seems pretty easy, if even just 20 of the thousands of refugees coming here have bad intentions, it seems like homemade explosives are easy enough to make this point (not to mention, guns are easy enough to get)...the likelihood has to be some sort of crude suicide bomb, yes? This seems to not be a matter of if, but of when and where...or am I way off base? Pick up standard materials used to create a chemical reaction, walk into a crowded place during a crowded event and set it off. What am I missing there?
Obama will block any bill passed by the House that would make refugee admittance stricter. This seems off to me...don't we want a stricter vetting process? I'm not against refugees and (laugh now) but I didn't read the entire article but what's the downside to the bill if it's truly just to vet refugees we take in more closely? I'm not thinking "close the borders". I'm not thinking: "don't take refugees." I am of the mindset, let's be a bit more careful and I can't see where I'm going wrong there.
ETA: on the 2nd point...we can't do NOTHING. We have to do SOMETHING. Wouldn't the most humane SOMETHING being a middle ground as proposed by the house by vetting a lot more intensively? This seems crazy to me that we can't at least meet in that middle.
Open to changing both mindsets...and more just for discussion as someone who can't seem to come to a conclusion.
The likelihood that something will happen in the US is pretty great I'd suppose at this point? The method seems pretty easy, if even just 20 of the thousands of refugees coming here have bad intentions, it seems like homemade explosives are easy enough to make this point (not to mention, guns are easy enough to get)...the likelihood has to be some sort of crude suicide bomb, yes? This seems to not be a matter of if, but of when and where...or am I way off base? Pick up standard materials used to create a chemical reaction, walk into a crowded place during a crowded event and set it off. What am I missing there?
Obama will block any bill passed by the House that would make refugee admittance stricter. This seems off to me...don't we want a stricter vetting process? I'm not against refugees and (laugh now) but I didn't read the entire article but what's the downside to the bill if it's truly just to vet refugees we take in more closely? I'm not thinking "close the borders". I'm not thinking: "don't take refugees." I am of the mindset, let's be a bit more careful and I can't see where I'm going wrong there.
ETA: on the 2nd point...we can't do NOTHING. We have to do SOMETHING. Wouldn't the most humane SOMETHING being a middle ground as proposed by the house by vetting a lot more intensively? This seems crazy to me that we can't at least meet in that middle.
Open to changing both mindsets...and more just for discussion as someone who can't seem to come to a conclusion.
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lod01
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You are not missing anything. This one is going to happen eventually unless they run out of low IQ sub-humans to carry out the task.
Fennis
Footballguy
the low bar isn't refugees it is people traveling on tourist visas. How do we stop European citizens from coming here on a tourist visa and doing what you are worried about?
Otis
Footballguy
I'd put a cap in a Syrian for a front porch. It's really my one biggest gripe about our new house.
Otis
Footballguy
Oh yeah, and I'm not on Long Island right now.
Oh and not sipping wine.
I am, however, enjoying a delicious Spotted Cow. Can you guess there I am? #jeopardymusic #beernerdthread
Stinger Ray
Footballguy
John Bender
Footballguy
My significant other travels internationally for work 5 months out of the year.
This year her assignment is the middle east... Qatar, UAE, Oman, Iran, Uzbekistan (and one of the other stans).
I thought it was interesting, I feel safer that she has those countries to cover this year as opposed to Europe.
Not that we are really concerned about either but I just thought that was interesting.
This year her assignment is the middle east... Qatar, UAE, Oman, Iran, Uzbekistan (and one of the other stans).
I thought it was interesting, I feel safer that she has those countries to cover this year as opposed to Europe.
Not that we are really concerned about either but I just thought that was interesting.
Otis
Footballguy
I could see that. The West isn't secure as it once was. These guys are just way dedicated nowadays.
lod01
Footballguy
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/isis-defector-explained-key-reason-180356055.html
Cut off their income and the losers that joined them, because they need $, will start to become angry that they are now terrorist working for free in conditions where they can't drink, smoke or look at hot chicks. They may as well turn gay at that point.
Seems as if Russia and France are working on that while Obama walks around with his thumb up his ###.
Cut off their income and the losers that joined them, because they need $, will start to become angry that they are now terrorist working for free in conditions where they can't drink, smoke or look at hot chicks. They may as well turn gay at that point.
Seems as if Russia and France are working on that while Obama walks around with his thumb up his ###.
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Meeting in the middle is a mistake when one side has gone bat#### crazy. We are already behind the curve in hosting Syrian refugees. Increasing the vetting process to make xenophobic conservatives feel better is silly policy.
jonessed
Footballguy
Most of what the TSA does is worthless. We owe a lot more to good intelligence and the fact that we are more difficult to get to geographically than Europe.
John Bender
Footballguy
Conservatives have nothing to do with my point. Maybe that's the issue... Everyone wants to jump first to a political side and then figure out where they stand. I'm looking for some feedback on the issue not a political pissing match that is presently occurring. Appeasing conservatives has nothing to do with anything when it comes to my thoughts. Jesus man.
You might as well say "we can't address this problem because it might make those damn conservatives satisfied!" you really care about that first and foremost?
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
This seems a little silly. Your wife is in more danger in Detroit than she is in Europe.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Jobber
Footballguy
Honduras arrests 5 Syrians with stolen passports.
http://news.yahoo.com/honduras-arrests-five-syrians-headed-us-stolen-passports-204536480.html
Tegucigalpa (AFP) - Honduran authorities have arrested five Syrians intending to make it to the United States with stolen Greek passports, triggering alarm Wednesday in the wake of the Paris attacks launched by Syria-linked jihadists.
The Syrians were arrested on Tuesday as they flew into Toncontin airport serving the Honduran capital and failed to make it past airport security checks, a police spokesman, Anibal Baca, told reporters.
"Five Syrian citizens have been detained and will be taken to our offices to be investigated because it is suspected they are carrying false documents, passports stolen in Greece," Baca said.
http://news.yahoo.com/honduras-arrests-five-syrians-headed-us-stolen-passports-204536480.html
Tegucigalpa (AFP) - Honduran authorities have arrested five Syrians intending to make it to the United States with stolen Greek passports, triggering alarm Wednesday in the wake of the Paris attacks launched by Syria-linked jihadists.
The Syrians were arrested on Tuesday as they flew into Toncontin airport serving the Honduran capital and failed to make it past airport security checks, a police spokesman, Anibal Baca, told reporters.
"Five Syrian citizens have been detained and will be taken to our offices to be investigated because it is suspected they are carrying false documents, passports stolen in Greece," Baca said.
John Bender
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Stinger Ray
Footballguy
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Sorry dude - you were talking about politics in your post so I don't think it was really off base to respond with a post that gave a political opinion.
In short, you're more likely to be struck by lightening while holding a winning powerball ticket than you are to be blown up by a Syrian refugee terrorist. I guess I'll let you pontificate on the need for legislation once you factor in Bayes theorem.
John Bender
Footballguy
Gunz...my post had zero to do with politics. This is why I try to never post in any current events or political threads. It's impossible.
I think last time I tried to just ask a question, some conservative told me they hoped id die in a fire.
Awful
I think last time I tried to just ask a question, some conservative told me they hoped id die in a fire.
Awful
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SaintsInDome2006
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I think the US has some moral responsibility here. First we invaded Iraq. Then we screwed up the security. Then we left, leaving these lunatics to run wild.
Otoh I don't what this 'vetting' is. People keep saying it like it means something, We have people with fake passports, no home addresses, no credit history, etc., what are we checking? This isn't like hiring a bank clerk. I said this before but I think it should take hold - it's a disaster, women, children and families first, and I'm guessing that would make up the whole 10,000 or whatever we're talking about. I think this would solve a lot of problems and concerns.
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CowboysFromHell
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Brief summary of the war in Syria. Does a good job of explaining how we got where we are. Truly a cluster.
https://www.facebook.com/ezraklein/videos/10153737513773410/
https://www.facebook.com/ezraklein/videos/10153737513773410/
Doctor Detroit
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That is pretty solid.I think we should have put our full faith and support behind the Kurds, and watched all this from Kurdistan.
Otis
Footballguy
I'VE GOT IT.
What if we paint a mural. Or several murals. Really colorful ones that make you feel happy when you look at them. All over the major cities in Syria.
OH. Instead of putting warheads in the bombs we just put in different color paints, and they'll splat like giant paintballs all over the place.
What if we paint a mural. Or several murals. Really colorful ones that make you feel happy when you look at them. All over the major cities in Syria.
OH. Instead of putting warheads in the bombs we just put in different color paints, and they'll splat like giant paintballs all over the place.
Otis
Footballguy
Not taking in Syrian refugees because it sends a bad message to the Muslim world in insane to me. They don't get our message regardless. Someone could write a cartoon tomorrow and inflame the region.
If we do take refugees I would not want any single males under 30. You late-thirties married with kids? Start with those people first.
If we do take refugees I would not want any single males under 30. You late-thirties married with kids? Start with those people first.
CowboysFromHell
Footballguy
This. I also don't get the current strategy of "we can't go in with more force or it will piss them off and create more terrorists" yet we continue to use drone strikes that... guess what? ...piss them off and creates more terrorists.
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apalmer
Footballguy
In a farm field in Iowa, hoping a bull doesn't sneak up on you from behind while you're occupied with that cow?
Short Corner
Footballguy
Short Corner
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BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
terrorists are creating more terrorists ...doesnt matter what we do...they start brain washing and recruiting children as young as 6...playing nice wont change a thing...we are and will always be the enemy infidels
The Commish
Footballguy
You've not met TGunz yet?? Not "everyone" wants to go the route of politics. I'm with you on this one
Fennis
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Instead of nukes we should clone like 2 or 3 of this dude: http://www.vocativ.com/world/isis-2/interview-with-iraqi-father-of-the-angel-of-death-who-fights-isis/
Doctor Detroit
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