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When Does Someone Lose A Deposit? What's The Shark Move Here? (1 Viewer)

What Should the Outcome Be?

  • Customer gets full original deposit applied and pays remainder at 2005 rate

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Customer gets partial credit of original deposit applied and pays remainder at 2005 rate

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Customer gets no credit for original deposit applied and pays at 2005 rate

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Customer gets full original deposit applied and pays remainder at 2015 rate

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Customer gets partial credit for orignal depoist applied and pays remainder at 2015 rate

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Customer gets no credit for original deposit applied, must post new deposit, and pays at 2015 rate

    Votes: 12 48.0%
  • Customer must pay balance from 2005 first, must post new deposit, and starts over at 2015 rate

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Give customer an inflated quote for new project and extend full credit from initial deposit.

    Votes: 5 20.0%
  • Alternative Option (Please explain)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    25

Anarchy99

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In 2005, I had a customer approach me for a marketing / content development project of which he paid a 50% deposit. The project was started and reached a point where I needed additional information from the client to complete. He was fully aware of what his tasks and deliverables were, but he did not provide the additional information. I tried multiple times to reach him to finish but had no success. The client did not get back to me, did not ask for any of his deposit back, and did not pay anything toward the remaining balance.

Yesterday, after 10 years, the customer called up out of the blue wanting to "finish" the project. However, he doesn't want to truly pick up where things were left off and wants a change of scope in terms of the strategy and direction of his project (and to bring things more current to today's standards). I am evaluating his request and reviewing what he wants done. No cost structure or pricing has been discussed yet (which I would normally do but was not prepared to get into on the spot after ten years).

My concern if I try to demand payment of the previous balance, he will refuse and I won't get anything from back then and he will not proceed with anything now. I am also concerned that if I don't make some attempt to credit him something from before he will also pass on any new business.

My initial thought is to give him an inflated quote for the new project and extend him full credit from the deposit of the initial project (which in reality would cancel each other out). In reality, that would really mean the stuff from 10 years ago is dead and buried and we are starting fresh again now (but he wouldn't know that).

How would people suggest handling this one? Please pick from the options in the poll and/or post what you would do in this situation.
 
wouldn't offer the refund for previous work. if you offer the refund, what if he just decides to not do the future work. are you then not committed to giving him a refund?

 
I would give him an inflated quote for the new project and offer a partial credit for the original deposit. He should know that he no longer has a right to the original deposit (since you did do some work on the original project).

And if he fights over the "partial credit", you can negotiate.

 
He doesn't get his refund back after 10 years. This is completely new business and you treat it as such. If he wants to try and tie it in, then have him go elsewhere. He certainly isn't entitled to the deposit back now after work done and time elapsed.

Bid the project out as you would for anyone else and treat this as a completely new deal. If he isn't comfortable with that, let him walk. Based on his previous actions, probably not business you need to have anyway.

And he doesn't owe the balance from earlier because you didn't do the work (because of him, of course).

 
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I would not be giving him a refund. I would be giving him a credit to apply to his new project.

As far as the disposition of the original project, while it was not fully completed, it was probably 85-90% completed. At the time, I needed specific information that I pretty much could have cut and pasted from the customer into what I had put together, smoothing out the information where it needed to go and making sure it fit in the space allocated.

I have not had situations where customers failed to complete projects, so not sure what, if any, additional money I would be entitled to (from 10 years ago) or if it worth even revisiting it.

 
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Both of you were content to leave things were they stood 10 years ago. New project new start. No credits or refunds. If he doesn't like that, there's plenty of other message boards out there for him.

 
I see one of two options, depending how you want to play it.

A) If you want to play it straight, this is a new project. New 2015 billing rate, new deposit, no credit from previous work. From your description, it sounds as if nothing you did 10 years ago will translate to this new work.

B) If you want to cater to "customer service" principles, and acknowledge the earlier work and deposit, I'd suggest an inflated quote with partial credit from the earlier project, with additional billing at 2015 rates. This may be an easier path, depending on the customer.

At the end of the day, you should be collecting from this customer the full amount for the new project as if he is a new customer with a new project.

 
Customer gets no credit for original deposit applied, must post new deposit, and pays at 2015 rate.

New price is also inflated for risk of him walking again. If a deal is made, collect subsequent payment(s) before you're underwater again (none of this 90% done and 50% paid BS); or collect it all upfront and explain that you earned virtually your whole fee last time but weren't paid for it due to his lack of follow-through. Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice, shame on me.

Calling the first project an "original deposit" is the wrong language to use IMO. You earned that money plus more, if not all.

 
gianmarco said:
He doesn't get his refund back after 10 years. This is completely new business and you treat it as such. If he wants to try and tie it in, then have him go elsewhere. He certainly isn't entitled to the deposit back now after work done and time elapsed.

Bid the project out as you would for anyone else and treat this as a completely new deal. If he isn't comfortable with that, let him walk. Based on his previous actions, probably not business you need to have anyway.

And he doesn't owe the balance from earlier because you didn't do the work (because of him, of course).
 
Why would you want to work with him again? Full deposit, full rate and slightly inflated quote for being a pia.

 

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