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Where in the world are the middle-aged dummies? Worldwide top 31 song countdown. (2 Viewers)

With just a week to go, sending out huge thanks to our usuals, @Hawks64 and @Val Rannous , for keeping things running, and to @Ilov80s for stepping in on the spreadsheet. You had huge shoes to fill when @falguy understandably took a break, and you've been awesome. No matter what the movie guys say. :lol:
A huge thanks to you again, Skipper, for sailing us around the world this time. Thanks to your ship mates, too.
 
With just a week to go, sending out huge thanks to our usuals, @Hawks64 and @Val Rannous , for keeping things running, and to @Ilov80s for stepping in on the spreadsheet. You had huge shoes to fill when @falguy understandably took a break, and you've been awesome. No matter what the movie guys say. :lol:
A huge thanks to you again, Skipper, for sailing us around the world this time. Thanks to your ship mates, too.
I think I know which one is Gilligan.
 
Pip’s Invitation:

Suite: Judy Blue Eyes - Crosby, Stills & Nash (US/UK)
(duplicate, second vote)

This is another one I knew from when I was very young because my parents had the So Far compilation on cassette. (They also had the first CSN album on LP, but I don't remember that getting play in the house until I was about 10.) It sounded like nothing else, which was also the case when it came out and is kind of the case today. It has an odd guitar tuning, a Spanish flavor (Stills was fluent and included more overt Latin music-related tracks on his solo albums) and four sections that are quite different from each other -- and yet it was released as a single because the folks running Atlantic Records at the time understood there was a market for brilliant but off-kilter work. The incredible harmony arrangement helped, of course.

The lyrics are mostly about Stills being dumped by Judy Collins, but the last section, sung in Spanish, is about the troubles in Cuba. Wiki: "Stills has said that he intentionally made the final stanzas unexpected and difficult, even using a foreign language for the lyrics, 'just to make sure nobody would understand it'."
 
CSN/CSNY

far from my preferred cuppa, but for those who grew up in the AOR dominated FM era, these guys were ubiquitous, if not prolific (?)

they were a huge favorite of the jox up here on WNEW-FM 102.7, which were prolly the premier station of said ilk in the country.

no denying how well crafted and expertly executed their top echelon stuff were when they were firing.

may not love 'em, or even bother to seek out to listen, but i do toss the respect.
 
A few known to me favorites this round excluding past songs.

Teach Your Children Well - ☮️🌻❤️
I'm Losing You - Can John and Yoko get into the top 10 race?
Still Loving You - One of my favorite vocals by Klaus.
So Long, Marianne - I like the various instruments in this tune.
All Tomorrow's Parties - 😵‍💫
Psycho Killer - Ay-ya-ya-ya-ya-ya
Old Man - Another favorite Neil song
Crush - I like this one.
Looks that Kill - Reminds me of the 80s and Hair Metal.
Jailbreak - 70s rock
Roll On Down The Highway - One of my favorites by them. :drive:


A few unknown new favorites.

The Recap
Armistice
Long Way To Go
Blue Sky Mine
Cut Me Up
Mind Plays Tricks On Me
Bring Me Edelweiss - There is a part of this song that I think sounds very similar to ABBA's SOS.
 
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Alibis - Sergio MendesDoug Banother forgotten treasure - way past his Brazil '66 days, you could not torture me into admitting I like this back then

:lol:

Y'all watched this back in the day -- can't deny it:

I don’t remember anything from him in those days other than Never Gonna Let You Go.
 
Who chose "Armistice" by Phoenix and what was that dude on?

Who dat dude?

I'm listening again. Inspired choice!

Lol. When the guitars come in. How very French! Slight payoff. Rare biftec.

"Titanium," "Pressure Drop," and "Armistice." Sorry I've been out-of-pocket and such, just have been running around. Armistice at seven?

Titanium might be my favorite of the three. What a day after the night after drinking and being emotionally dumped by a crush fight song! Such modern problems! Ah, 2009-11, where did you go?

I could choose all of Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix and be pretty darn happy about it. Love that album. "Lasso" also smokes as a deeper cut.
 
I knew 28 songs today, not counting my own but including repeats.

Known-to-me favorites from #7, not including my own or Fight the Good Fight and Rebellion (Lies), both of which are known to be on my list:

Old Man -- Neil Young (Zegras11)
Welcome to the Jungle -- Guns N' Roses (Val Rannous)
This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody) -- Talking Heads (Worrierking)
All Along the Watchtower -- The Jimi Hendrix Experience (Just Win Baby)
When the World Is Running Down, You Make the Best of What's Still Around -- The Police (Sullie)
Blue Sky Mine -- Midnight Oil (Marco)
Teach Your Children -- Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young (Doc Oc)
The Chain -- Fleetwood Mac (Hov34)
Psycho Killer -- Talking Heads (Westerberg)
The Last in Line -- Dio (Hawks64)
Jailbreak -- Thin Lizzy (OH)
Watching the Wheels -- John Lennon and Yoko Ono (Krista and Shuke)
I'm Losing You -- John Lennon and Yoko Ono (Raging Weasel)
Bohemian Rhapsody -- Queen (AAABatteries)
Mind Playing Tricks on Me -- Geto Boys (Scorchy)
 
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Count me among those who don't get Queen. I respect certain things, Brian May's guitar work, Freddie's a good singer, etc., but I have no connection with them at all. Their songs are fairly original, but the subject matter is entirely unrelatable to me and in many instances lightweight. I've made jokes about Freddie's overbite in other threads, and those are really just schtick, but I am not a fan and I did not consider any of their songs for this countdown.
Yeah, same boat here. I can recognize the talent and they certainly owned Live Aid (along with U2), but I just don't feel it.

Same.
 
Zegras11:

Old Man - Neil Young
(new song)

What I said in my Neil countdown:

12. Old Man (Harvest, 1972)
This is my favorite song on Neil's most popular album and always has been. It's perfectly constructed in every way, and performed expertly by the Stray Gators with harmonies from Linda Ronstadt and James Taylor (who also played banjo). It's about how we all share many needs regardless of age:

Old man take a look at my life, I'm a lot like you
I need someone to love me the whole day through
Ah, one look in my eyes and you can tell that's true.

&

Neil's vocal brims with emotion and is one of his finest singing performances.
Neil wrote this in 1970 for Louis Avila, the caretaker of his ranch that he had recently purchased. Neil told the story in the Heart of Gold documentary: "Louis took me for a ride in this blue Jeep. He gets me up there on the top side of the place, and there's this lake up there that fed all the pastures, and he says, "Well, tell me, how does a young man like yourself have enough money to buy a place like this?" And I said, "Well, just lucky, Louis, just real lucky." And he said, "Well, that's the darnedest thing I ever heard." And I wrote this song for him."
 
Bring Me Edelweiss - There is a part of this song that I think sounds very similar to ABBA's SOS.

All kinds of ABBA on this one, except for the "Bring me Edelweiss" guy. Got some run back when you-know-what Actually Played Videos[TM].

rumor going around that it were actually anal vice

...
because we were so wired up at the clubs that we were like "ok, sure ... i get it"
 
I like Queen, by the way. Just so people know I'm not part of the confessional. I get it. One of my favorite albums as a kid was that one with the monster on it and it gave me nightmares. I forget the name of the album, but it had some good cuts. Listened to it at a cousin's house repeatedly when I was five or so.

Queen rocks in their own way. If I did or did not include them, it may or may not have been because of the weird (but fair!) exclusion from the UK one.

eta* I wrote this before I realized otb had written something much more eloquent and knowledgable, so read his post for reasons to like Queen.
 
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Bring Me Edelweiss - There is a part of this song that I think sounds very similar to ABBA's SOS.

All kinds of ABBA on this one, except for the "Bring me Edelweiss" guy. Got some run back when you-know-what Actually Played Videos[TM].

@JMLs secret identity or @titusbramble ...either one of you guys want to get into the background on this tune?

JML secret ID picked it and it looks like titusbramble's avatar is a tribute ...no?

I went down a brief rabbit hole and it's pretty amazing.
 
scorchy:

Mind Playing Tricks On Me - Geto Boys (U.S., Jamaica)

Someway, somehow, my kid just isn't into music. He went through a brief phase in his early teens where he was obsessed with trap (i.e., the kind of hip-hop where dudes sound like they've got a mouth full of rocks) but it was pretty short-lived. My wife and I have no explanation at all for his indifference. On a college tour last spring, the guide asked the usual "name/hometown/potential major" question to each kid, but then threw in "and tell us your favorite song." After all the Taylor Swifts and Travis Scotts and Tyler the Creators, I was dreading the shrug that I knew was forthcoming. Instead, my son throws out Mind Playing Tricks on Me by Geto Boys. So maybe we're not total failures after all.
 
I was dreading the shrug that I knew was forthcoming. Instead, my son throws out Mind Playing Tricks on Me by Geto Boys. So maybe we're not total failures after all.

Talk about stepping up in the moment. (Proud nodding, emotional chest bumping. And then scorchy listened to the lyrics and worried a little bit. But that was quickly quelled. "He'll be okay," thought scorchy. "He'll be all right.")
 
Mummy4:
Come On Over (Turn Me On) - Isobel Campbell, Mark Lanegansimeysounded like it was recorded in a jacuzzi by these two - and I was gonna get bent over

Mark Lanegan was a lot of things during his life and career -- but sexy? That might be a stretch.
 
Mummy4:
Come On Over (Turn Me On) - Isobel Campbell, Mark Lanegansimeysounded like it was recorded in a jacuzzi by these two - and I was gonna get bent over

Mark Lanegan was a lot of things during his life and career -- but sexy? That might be a stretch.
I think Lanegan sounds sexy in the song, and so does Isobel Campbell (who wrote the song). Isobel used to be in Belle and Sebastian. Anyway, I love the song and the way they use the strings in it. I have all three albums these two made together, and they are all good.
 
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I made it through most of the 24-pointers playlist late last night and finished off the rest this morning.

Special known-to-me shout-outs: "You Sexy Thing" by Hot Chocolate, which makes me think of the movie The Full Monty. Tom Wilkinson is brilliant in everything he's ever done. "Birthday" by The Sugarcubes (girl crush on Bjork is unabated). "The Gift" by the velvets for an off-the-radar selections; loved the write-up on this one, too.

New-to-me shout-outs: The song is not new to me, but the cover of "Unknown Legend" that was chosen was outstanding. I also liked the Flogging Molly song, "Drunken Lullabies." Not a very successful day for me on new music. :topcat:
I have often found the earlier rounds of these drafts a little exciting because it’s more random, more songs I’ve never heard. Sometimes the top gets a little chalky. I love Psycho Killer and The Chain but obviously those are a bit boring. That’s not a shot at anyone, my top 10 is filled with super popular songs.
 
Bring Me Edelweiss - There is a part of this song that I think sounds very similar to ABBA's SOS.

All kinds of ABBA on this one, except for the "Bring me Edelweiss" guy. Got some run back when you-know-what Actually Played Videos[TM].

@JMLs secret identity or @titusbramble ...either one of you guys want to get into the background on this tune?

JML secret ID picked it and it looks like titusbramble's avatar is a tribute ...no?

I went down a brief rabbit hole and it's pretty amazing.
I knew this already as i really liked KLF/The Timelords/Justified Ancients of Mu Mu but wiki sums it up really well

In 1988, British electronic band The Timelords (better known as The KLF) scored a number-one hit in the United Kingdom and New Zealand with the novelty song "Doctorin' the Tardis",which samples a number of songs, including Gary Glitter's "Rock and Roll" and The Sweet's "Block Buster!". As a result of the song's success, the band published a book entitled The Manual (How to Have a Number One the Easy Way). Written by members Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty, the book instructed—as a joke—how to earn a number-one hit without much work. One instruction, "Compose your music with bits you've nicked from other songs", was supposedly followed by Edelweiss, allowing them to compose "Bring Me Edelweiss."
https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/mobile-html/Bring_Me_Edelweiss#cite_note-songfacts-4
The song features many samples. The primary sample, which the song's chorus is based on, is ABBA's 1975 song "SOS". ABBA usually do not allow other artists to sample their music, and they claimed Edelweiss never contacted them and never had permission to sample "SOS". However, members of the band claim that they managed to get one of ABBA's publishers to provide them with a contract during a drunken phone call in broken English. Other samples in the song include the 'Ow!'s from "Rock Me Amadeus" by fellow Austrian musician Falco, sections of Indeep's 1983 song "Last Night a DJ Saved My Life", and the 'Ah yeah' from Run-DMC's "Here We Go (Live at the Funhouse)". Yodeling is also common throughout the song, and the female vocals are provided by Austrian singer Maria Mathis [de].
Jason Roth of NPR described the song's music video as "a cleavage-soaked Alpine fever dream".
 
Bring Me Edelweiss - There is a part of this song that I think sounds very similar to ABBA's SOS.

All kinds of ABBA on this one, except for the "Bring me Edelweiss" guy. Got some run back when you-know-what Actually Played Videos[TM].

@JMLs secret identity or @titusbramble ...either one of you guys want to get into the background on this tune?

JML secret ID picked it and it looks like titusbramble's avatar is a tribute ...no?

I went down a brief rabbit hole and it's pretty amazing.
The avatar is a KLF reference
 
Wow. I have to check out that KLF song. I'm a sampling honk. As people who read my posts seriously probably know, I think brief de minimis sampling of sound recordings for a transformative use should be fair use in the U.S. and legal. Like possibly without licensing recompense. But I'm radical that way. Other countries have their own reasons for copyright, like droit du moral in France and Germany, so I'm not sure about KLF and the origins of their international claims, but I know that the U.S. is based on the U.K. system of copyright, which is utilitarian in nature, so if you get the owner's permission or that permission has passed into basic licensing or gasp! public domain, then go ahead and use it. Long way of saying I should check that song out.
 
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Oh, **** - White Lion?? Gotta hop into today's mix now.
Wait (pun intended)...You LIKE White Lion?
Oh, **** - White Lion?? Gotta hop into today's mix now.
I knew of the song but had never actually heard it. :bag:
It's pretty good.
I used to make fun of people for listening to hair metal. :bag::bag:
Now listen to their version of Radar Love. Lady of the Valley is another good tune.
Some. Wait is a ****in' jam and a hair metal core text, IMO.
 
Oh, **** - White Lion?? Gotta hop into today's mix now.
Wait (pun intended)...You LIKE White Lion?
Oh, **** - White Lion?? Gotta hop into today's mix now.
I knew of the song but had never actually heard it. :bag:
It's pretty good.
I used to make fun of people for listening to hair metal. :bag::bag:
Now listen to their version of Radar Love. Lady of the Valley is another good tune.
Some. Wait is a ****in' jam and a hair metal core text, IMO.

better than anything Bon Dooshy churned out ...




(then i remember RUNAWAY, and retract)

😁
 
I have often found the earlier rounds of these drafts a little exciting because it’s more random, more songs I’ve never heard. Sometimes the top gets a little chalky. I love Psycho Killer and The Chain but obviously those are a bit boring. That’s not a shot at anyone, my top 10 is filled with super popular songs.

Yeah, after I posted and then listened to today's playlist, again with only limited success, I realized that was the issue. There is just a lot less new-to-me at this point, both because we're getting into the chalkier stuff and because some of the new-to-me songs were already selected. I've gone two playlists without adding anything to my new-to-me faves playlist, but on today the ones I enjoyed the most were "Armistice" by Phoenix, "Dawn of the Dead" by Does It Offend You, Yeah?, and "... Espiritu" by some dudes.

25-pointer special shout-outs on already-known songs: "So Long, Marianne" is always in contention as my favorite Cohen. She certainly seemed like a better person than Suzanne was, too. ATP - anything from the banana album gets a shout-out. "I'm Losing You" by Lennon/Ono. This was my #12 John song, and one a lot of people don't know, so I'm happy to see it here. :thumbup: I haven't been posting my write-ups for all these, but I looked at this one to see if I'd had anything interesting to say. While I'm not claiming I did, I do think this is of interest at least to check out the Cheap Trick recording:

John wrote this song initially in response to not being able to reach Yoko by phone during portions of his Bermuda trip, but then expanded the lyrics to an exasperated lament over her still blaming/not forgiving him for mistakes he had made earlier in their relationship. The track stands out from the overall "ain't marriage grand" feel of Double Fantasy, harkening more to the emotionally raw style of Plastic Ono Band or other earlier works, which is a large part of the reason it's one of my favorite tracks from the album. The guitar parts seems to portend doom and the drum sound adds to the tension in an impressive fashion. I'm also selecting a bonus track here, "I'm Moving On," which is Yoko's companion piece to this song and my favorite of hers on the record.

The song had an interesting recording history, as the original version of it was recorded with Rick Neilson and Bun E. Carlos of Cheap Trick on guitar and drums. By all accounts, John was pleased with their performances, even commenting that he wished he'd had Neilson for "Cold Turkey" instead of Clapton, and the three of them got along famously. Yet the song was re-recorded with the session musicians, which became the released version, and there's never been a concrete reason given for why the earlier recording was ditched. There have been rumors that Yoko didn't like Neilson and Carlos, or that John later suspected the Cheap Trick crew of being the source of leaks about the content of the album, but I think the more logical explanation is that this gritty first version didn't fit as well within the context of the much glossier Double Fantasy. Whatever the reason, this song gets docked a bit by me because I strongly prefer the earlier recording; the only element I like better on the Double Fantasy release is John's growl at the beginning.

This was intended to be the second single off Double Fantasy, but was replaced by "Woman" and then "Watching The Wheels" due to the title and lyrics being a big too on-the-nose given his death.
 
I knew of the song but had never actually heard it. :bag:
It's pretty good.
I used to make fun of people for listening to hair metal. :bag::bag:

I like it. I think it's excellent. You also liked the Hanoi Rocks song "Kill City Kills." Those are two standout, competent bands of the genre veering a little leftfield, both, so I wouldn't feel too, too bad about ripping hair metal. Pretty Boy Floyd, The Roxx Gang, and others were the sign of an industry drunk with Guns N' Roses and Poison sales in the veins, looking for the next big L.A. thing. Some of those bands turned out okay (Faster Pussycat's first album, L.A. Guns's first two), but there were slim pickings picked totally bare by an industry. I would understand both the industry hate and, if we get meaner, the lower social classes that were attuned to hair metal. Both are ripe for the picking if we're going to be like that (I've eschewed doing that as I get older). But at times, like G N' R, a product themselves of a Motley Crue/Poison gold rush, they hit and walloped big time.

Seattle would prove much more fertile creative ground a few years later, and it was picked just as bare (almost!) by the majors and mid-majors and indies.

But it's amazing what time and knowledge of a genre will do. I used to make fun of prog, and then spent the better part of a half a decade listening to a genre influenced by it. (I still make fun of prog when the time is right, but I know a little better. I just used it to piss off wikkid, frankly. I smile writing that. I hope it doesn't come across poorly.)
 
Big fan of Faster Pussycat's first - Bathroom Wall, Shooting You Down, and Don't Change That Song are some of my regular listens.

I used to really dig them as a sophomore in high school and continued to listen to them every so often as an adult. Rumor has it that Ric Browde, their producer on their first album, came up with the New York Dolls-y esque hybrid sound, wrote the songs, and Faster fell off as soon as they switched producers and wrote their own material. The change in sonics can be traced to him, and is embodied in the second album's departure from the first.

But that first album? Yeah, some really good rock tracks. Featured in Decline II.

"Do guys do drugs?'

[Looks worried] "No! We don't use drugs!" [Mark Michaels, the drummer, was then almost immediately and subsequently kicked out for heroin use]
 
HOUSE. OF. PAIN.

that vid, too

🖤

A left-field ballad about a different type of unrequited love. Second album. Still an interesting song in subject matter alone. Way out there from what most ballads were about, which was simpering sentimentality about female love interests and the problems or rewards therein.

Sons and fathers? Interesting avenue, Taime Downe. [His real name is Gustav. Learned that on the Strip back in the day. Not kidding.]
 
Updated Song Leader board: Golden Earring slips a little more and John/Yoko's suddenly find themselves in contention.

Southern Cross71
Fade To Black66
All Along The Watchtower64
Radar Love61
November Rain56
Fight The Good Fight55
Don't Change54
Watching the Wheels 54
Lunatic Fringe52
Twilight Zone52
Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black)51
 
Updated Song Leader board: Golden Earring slips a little more and John/Yoko's suddenly find themselves in contention.

Southern Cross71
Fade To Black66
All Along The Watchtower64
Radar Love61
November Rain56
Fight The Good Fight55
Don't Change54
Watching the Wheels54
Lunatic Fringe52
Twilight Zone52
Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black)51

this race is Watchtower's to lose ... prohib 1/9 favorite.
 

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