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Which HC would you rather your team be stuck with? (1 Viewer)

Phillips vs. Childress

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Which guy is the lousier option?

If you had to pick one of these guys to be your team's HC this season who would you choose? Wade Phillips or Brad Childress?

Editors's Note [Woodrow] -- Added the poll per OP's request

 
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I would take a child rapist over Childress. Literally anyone down to Pop Warner coaches. Any time I want to feel good about any pro or college team I root for when they are really down, I think to myself, at least we don't have Childress.

 
I would take a child rapist over Childress. Literally anyone down to Pop Warner coaches. Any time I want to feel good about any pro or college team I root for when they are really down, I think to myself, at least we don't have Childress.
Dude, let's take it easy. Really, "a child rapist". Get over yourself, it is a game. I prefer Wade any day because he has won year over year. I think that you are trying to be funny but that needs some work.
 
Childress is a good talent evaluator but a bad field game coach. I am not crazy about either but I will take Childress.

 
How come Singletary, Spagnolo, Mike Smith, John Fox, Tony Soporano, etc. are not options?

Wade and Childress have amassed arguably the most talented teams in the entire league and yet they are criticized for thier perceived failures (playoff winners) meanwhile guys like Singletary, Smith, etc.dont increase the talent to the levels of Vikings or Cowboys and get a free pass because of lowered expectations. I find it hard to classify someone as a the worst coach in the NFL when Phillips has went 33-15 winning NFC East twice in 3 years. I would be lying if I said Phillips didnt make bonehead calls or his teams lacked discipline but he still wins and quite often.

 
This poll was made with the realization that Jason Garrett runs the offense and not Wade Phillips, right?
Doesn't matter. The head coach is responsible for it all. If Garrett's the problem (and he is) then Phillips needs to take his play calling responsibility away. Maybe easier said than done with Jerry around but that doesn't matter. If Phillips wants to demote himself to defensive coordinator and let someone competent take over the head coaching responsibilities, he's free to.
 
This poll was made with the realization that Jason Garrett runs the offense and not Wade Phillips, right?
To me this is the crux of why Phillips is the easy choice. I get the feeling that Childress thinks he's some sort of genius and insists on trying to prove he's smart with asinine play calling and terrible use of his personnel.I get the feeling that Phillips knows he is an administrator and will acquiesce to the judgement of his coordinators. He might not be a great motivator you'd ideally want in a head coach, but if you give him some good coordinators, he won't get in the way either which is less than I can say about Childress.
 
This poll was made with the realization that Jason Garrett runs the offense and not Wade Phillips, right?
To me this is the crux of why Phillips is the easy choice. I get the feeling that Childress thinks he's some sort of genius and insists on trying to prove he's smart with asinine play calling and terrible use of his personnel.I get the feeling that Phillips knows he is an administrator and will acquiesce to the judgement of his coordinators. He might not be a great motivator you'd ideally want in a head coach, but if you give him some good coordinators, he won't get in the way either which is less than I can say about Childress.
This. And Garrett was hired before Phillips, so not like he had any input there either.
 
This poll was made with the realization that Jason Garrett runs the offense and not Wade Phillips, right?
To me this is the crux of why Phillips is the easy choice. I get the feeling that Childress thinks he's some sort of genius and insists on trying to prove he's smart with asinine play calling and terrible use of his personnel.I get the feeling that Phillips knows he is an administrator and will acquiesce to the judgement of his coordinators. He might not be a great motivator you'd ideally want in a head coach, but if you give him some good coordinators, he won't get in the way either which is less than I can say about Childress.
Yup. Plus, for all his faults, Phillips coordinates one hell of a defense.
 
Furthest Phillips has ever taken a team?
Farther than Singletary, Mike Smith, Steve Spagnolo, Tony Soporano the list goes on................
Those coaches were given far weaker squads when they joined. Also, I believe Phillips has had 1 more year than those other guys.
Phillips has been instrumental in getting players to replace the older players since he has come to Dallas. With the exception of the offensive line, Dallas is a young team. Think of all the old guys they have gotten rid and replaced Tank Johnson, Pacman, Roy Williams, Ken Hamlin, Flozell, Anthony Henry, Zach Thomas, etc. You have to give him credit for this retooling even if he did start with better parts, how much longer do the above coaches get a free pass for?
 
Furthest Phillips has ever taken a team?
Farther than Singletary, Mike Smith, Steve Spagnolo, Tony Soporano the list goes on................
Those coaches were given far weaker squads when they joined. Also, I believe Phillips has had 1 more year than those other guys.
Phillips has been instrumental in getting players to replace the older players since he has come to Dallas. With the exception of the offensive line, Dallas is a young team. Think of all the old guys they have gotten rid and replaced Tank Johnson, Pacman, Roy Williams, Ken Hamlin, Flozell, Anthony Henry, Zach Thomas, etc. You have to give him credit for this retooling even if he did start with better parts, how much longer do the above coaches get a free pass for?
He did a great job. Tony did a great job. ALEX BARRON COULD NOT DO HIS JOB!! You cannot blame the coach or the QB or the GM. The Cowboys have O-line issues that are going to screw them.
 
Pretty surprised about the poll results. Wade has been coaching a hell of a lot longer than Chilly, and he just got his first playoff victory last season. And do guys remember who coached the team that pounded the Cowboy's brains in last year in the playoffs? That's right. Chilly.

Bum's son is the same guy that chose the Rob Johnson as his starter over the much more productive Doug Flutie. He's the same guy who as head coach of a team in the playoffs, didn't have his squad properly prepared to defend a highschool play on a kickoff (Music City Miracle).

If ADP holds doesn't fumble the ball a gazillion times last year, the Vikings are in the Super Bowl. If Wade was coaching that same Vikings team last year, they don't come within 2 td's of the Saints.

While I understand Vikings' fans' frustration with Chilly's TJax shennanigans, I have a hard time envisioning any scenario where Wade could actually lead a team with TJax at qb to the playoffs like Chilly has.

 
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Dexter Manley said:
If ADP holds doesn't fumble the ball a gazillion times last year, the Vikings are in the Super Bowl. If Wade was coaching that same Vikings team last year, they don't come within 2 td's of the Saints.
Just to play devil's advocate here, you do know that Wade Phillips and the Cowboys won at New Orleans in week 15, ending the Saints undefeated season, right?
 
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KnowledgeReignsSupreme said:
Furthest Phillips has ever taken a team?
Farther than Singletary, Mike Smith, Steve Spagnolo, Tony Soporano the list goes on................
Those coaches were given far weaker squads when they joined. Also, I believe Phillips has had 1 more year than those other guys.
Phillips has been instrumental in getting players to replace the older players since he has come to Dallas. With the exception of the offensive line, Dallas is a young team. Think of all the old guys they have gotten rid and replaced Tank Johnson, Pacman, Roy Williams, Ken Hamlin, Flozell, Anthony Henry, Zach Thomas, etc. You have to give him credit for this retooling even if he did start with better parts, how much longer do the above coaches get a free pass for?
They get a free pass for longer than Wade. 2 more years at least. That's just the truth around the high expectations of taking over a playoff team and being the head coach for the Cowboys. Those coaches' expectations when they came in were to build a competitive team in a couple of years. Wade's was to win a Super Bowl.As far as the OP, I haven't followed the Vikings enough to truly understand how bad Childless is. I wouldn't mind trying out the Random Playcall Generator for the Cowboys though.
 
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Dexter Manley said:
If ADP holds doesn't fumble the ball a gazillion times last year, the Vikings are in the Super Bowl. If Wade was coaching that same Vikings team last year, they don't come within 2 td's of the Saints.
Just to play devil's advocate here, you do know that Wade Phillips and the Cowboys won at New Orleans in week 15, ending the Saints undefeated season, right?
Yes. There was a lot more urgency for Dallas to win that game than there was for the Saints.
 
Dexter Manley said:
If ADP holds doesn't fumble the ball a gazillion times last year, the Vikings are in the Super Bowl. If Wade was coaching that same Vikings team last year, they don't come within 2 td's of the Saints.
Just to play devil's advocate here, you do know that Wade Phillips and the Cowboys won at New Orleans in week 15, ending the Saints undefeated season, right?
Yes. There was a lot more urgency for Dallas to win that game than there was for the Saints.
If you don't think the Saints were trying their asses off to win that game, you weren't paying attention.
 
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Dexter Manley said:
If ADP holds doesn't fumble the ball a gazillion times last year, the Vikings are in the Super Bowl. If Wade was coaching that same Vikings team last year, they don't come within 2 td's of the Saints.
Just to play devil's advocate here, you do know that Wade Phillips and the Cowboys won at New Orleans in week 15, ending the Saints undefeated season, right?
Yes. There was a lot more urgency for Dallas to win that game than there was for the Saints.
If you don't think the Saints were trying their asses off to win that game, you weren't paying attention.
Not sure where you got that from. That was clearly a lot more important game for Dallas than it was for New Orleans. Doesn't mean the Saints weren't playing hard.
 
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Casting Couch said:
Childress>>>> Phillips.Phillips is not a smart man.
Thanks for your insight. Any reason why you feel that way. The Cowboys should have won and Childress uses the NFL's best RB only 3 times in the second half. Educate me Mr. Shula.
Not handing out en education here Steak, just opinions.Are we talking about this one game or the whole body of work? I was under the impression we were talking about overall coaching skill set.Of course Childress's 2nd half decision making was abominable against New Orleans. Using an obviously rusty Favre over pounding with AP in the second half was foolish. That said I think Childress is the more intelligent coach, I would take him over Wade Phillips easily. I think the total amount of questionable decision making over the past two seasons falls hard on Phillips shoulders.
 
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