Klimtology
Footballguy
Yahoo? NFL.com? Espn?
Looking to set up a money league.
TIA
Looking to set up a money league.
TIA
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Which is the best platform for Fantasy Football 2025? (2 Viewers)
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
I would say sleeper as well, with MFL a close second. The problem is I think Sleeper is getting better and MFL has been going downhill for awhile.
In my book, it's Sleeper by a mile. Maybe 2 miles.
It's just cleaner than the others and more intuitive.
I'm biased but it also features live draft synch with our Draft Dominator tool which for me invaluable.
2nd would be MyFantasyLeague if you had wild or unusual scoring as it's the most flexible. And also Live Synchs with the Draft Dominator.
It's just cleaner than the others and more intuitive.
I'm biased but it also features live draft synch with our Draft Dominator tool which for me invaluable.
2nd would be MyFantasyLeague if you had wild or unusual scoring as it's the most flexible. And also Live Synchs with the Draft Dominator.
I would also say the Sleeper app for mobile is fantastic. It was built with mobile in mind first. If you use your phone a lot for managing, it's outstanding.
B Maverick
Footballguy
I have leagues on CBS, Sleeper and MFL. Sleeper is relatively new for me, so that does factor in the below.
I like MFL best, its straight forward and easy to find what you want to do. Very basic design overall.
Sleeper to me is the shiny toy and complex. Still can't seem to find things at times and some functionality is better on the app and some is better online.
CBS works well for the design of my main league. Nothing fancy, but with contract lengths and costs, it does do a good job handling.
I like MFL best, its straight forward and easy to find what you want to do. Very basic design overall.
Sleeper to me is the shiny toy and complex. Still can't seem to find things at times and some functionality is better on the app and some is better online.
CBS works well for the design of my main league. Nothing fancy, but with contract lengths and costs, it does do a good job handling.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
I recognize that I'm the old man yelling at the clouds, but Sleeper is waaaaaaay to busy for my liking.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
I took a quick look at sleeper, but my league incorporates a combination of H2H and all play into the mix and it didn't seem like sleeper could handle that....so MFL it is...
Scoresman
Footballguy
My leagues are on CBS and despite us paying them a fee to host our leagues, we still get inundated with requests to turn off our ad blockers sometimes to the point where you cant access the the page without doing so. . I feel like we pay enough we shouldnt get these requests or ads.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Sleeper isn't DEVY friendly. You can't add custom players and that is a must for DEVY players. Also, others have said that Sleeper isn't very good with complex rules, but I cannot attest to that.
Yes, if you have super complex rules, MFL is likely best. But the interface is light years away from Sleeper.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
One would think they could add custom players. From a programmer's perspective, the programming behind that cannot be all that difficult. Maybe two weeks development tops. By doing this they could bring in the DEVY business. I wonder if anyone has ever brought this up to them?
Saint
Footballguy
MFL for customization by a mile, but my the UI/UX and mobile platform need a seriousness investment. I wish they would invest more in their tool. From a simplicity side, Yahoo has a very clean interface. If they could combine the feature sets of MFL with a Yahoo UI, I would be in bliss.
Yes. They're aware.
The DEVY market is so tiny, my guess is they are focusing on features that have more appeal to more users.
But MFL should take care of what you need there. Good luck.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Oh I know MFL well. It’s all I use. I do think the DEVY market is growing however. Perhaps Sleeper will grow with it. I remember when PPR wasn’t popular. Or more lineup flexibility. Remember that?
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
never done sleeper. I think MFL is pretty neat and it might be that I'm new (my first year on MFL) and haven't quite gotten used to it but I like the UI of yahoo.
joey
Footballguy
For a “simple” “standard” league setup/format/lineups/waivers/etc, I think I’d still rank them:
1) Yahoo (such a well known, predictable interface. Been on there for 20+ years for our old school, 1.2 ppr redraft league)
2) Sleeper (I’d say it’s simple enough once you get used to how it’s different from other sites you might have used for years like a yahoo or CBS)
1) Yahoo (such a well known, predictable interface. Been on there for 20+ years for our old school, 1.2 ppr redraft league)
2) Sleeper (I’d say it’s simple enough once you get used to how it’s different from other sites you might have used for years like a yahoo or CBS)
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Even though I only use MFL for football and CBS Sports for dynasty baseball, I like learning about other hosting sites. What is it that is horrendous about Sleeper? I know the worst thing about MFL is their mobile app.
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Largent
Footballguy
also love the scoring systems you can implement. I do a tiered PPR, for example catches 0-9 yrds .25pts, 10-19 .50pts, 20-30 .75pts etc.....and the 2 wins each week; head to head and one for top half of scoring.....
it's elite
wgoldsph
Footballguy
For redraft the easy answer is Sleeper. It's an almost idiot proof app when all you need to do is draft and set your lineup.
MFL is the best for a league with any type of complexity. The amount of customization doesn't exist anywhere else. The entire interface needs an update, especially when an app like Sleeper is out there looking all shiny. No one should ever use the MFL mobile app. It simply shouldn't exist. Site works fine if you turn on desktop mode on your mobile browser.
The other legacy sites are just that - legacy. They stick around because people don't want to change up what they've been doing for twenty plus years. But have any of these 20 year yahoo guys try Sleeper and that's all they'll use.
MFL is the best for a league with any type of complexity. The amount of customization doesn't exist anywhere else. The entire interface needs an update, especially when an app like Sleeper is out there looking all shiny. No one should ever use the MFL mobile app. It simply shouldn't exist. Site works fine if you turn on desktop mode on your mobile browser.
The other legacy sites are just that - legacy. They stick around because people don't want to change up what they've been doing for twenty plus years. But have any of these 20 year yahoo guys try Sleeper and that's all they'll use.
joey
Footballguy
Yup. 20 year Yahoo guy AND I also use Sleeper.
I like them both for different reasons. Yahoo is known, solid, reliable and predictable. But I agree they’ve fallen behind a little, for example I think they removed the Message Board feature a few seasons ago, so communication in our long running (30 years this year, I believe) work league has moved to text threads or emails we’re all on. Whereas Sleeper is kind of built around their chat feature, so there tends to be more in seasons chatter there (and it’s a dynasty league that I commish there, so that’s typically more chatty, especially in the off-season, than our long time redraft league on yahoo).
titusbramble
Footballguy
Sleeper and it's not even close
dkp993
Footballguy
Fantrax is the best combo of both. Lots of flexibility for more complex leagues and while no Sleeper the interface is far better the MFL.
imo MFL would own the space if they just put a bit of effort into updating the 1995 interface.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Oh, it’s close alright. I’m reading their negative ink here as well, such as horrendous. To be fair I asked @Blue Wave why he thinks that, but he hasn’t responded. I wish people would say why they don’t like a hosting site. Some have. I said I use MFL, but their mobile app sucks.
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That's in the works.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
THANK YOU!
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Being too busy is what killed Rotoworld. That along with nothing but sports gambling ads all over the place and no meaningful fantasy information. Something which is how they made their bones.
dkp993
Footballguy
Good to hear, though I feel like I’ve heard that rumor for years now.
*not implying from you. Just in general.
darksideofoz
Footballguy
hopefully that is the explanation for the price increases in back to back years recently.
candian fantasy guy
Footballguy
I use RTS and we like it. It’s an IDP league with head to head and weekly points W/L. It’s also an auction. I have zero complaints about the site as a commissioner, it’s pretty great actually. However, the yearly price tag is getting pretty high at 129.99 with the early bird 10% discount. It’s getting to be too much and we are planning on moving to different site next season. I didn’t really like Sleeper last year in the FBG contest, so I am trying to figure something out. Any thoughts on ESPN, that’s what one of league mate is pinning for.
Great thread BTW
Great thread BTW
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I used RTS many years ago in a couple of leagues I commish, then changed to MFL because of cost I believe. I seemed to remember RTS fondly as a commissioner. What is the cost of RTS these days?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
First year I've used sleeper and haven't done their waivers/FAAB yet. I did notice sorting players during the draft was wrong but otherwise like the app.
My home leagues use ESPN or Yahoo. Not a fan of Yahoo at all. ESPN is fine except entering waivers is too many clicks. Haven't used CBS and no real desire too.
MFL for dynasty and looking forward to their 2026 interface changes. There's a lot there but too much of it is not intuitive at all. They could keep/add the flexibility and dumb down the setup at the same time.
My home leagues use ESPN or Yahoo. Not a fan of Yahoo at all. ESPN is fine except entering waivers is too many clicks. Haven't used CBS and no real desire too.
MFL for dynasty and looking forward to their 2026 interface changes. There's a lot there but too much of it is not intuitive at all. They could keep/add the flexibility and dumb down the setup at the same time.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Been looking forward to that for over twenty years now pal
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Our league uses RTSports in which I am commissioner. We pay $79.96 (with the 10% early bird discount)
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
MFL FABB experience is the worst user experience of any platform I have used. It was clear implemented by engineers and not UX folks.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
joey
Footballguy
exactly. And god forbid you’re a more “straight forward” dynasty league and just want a simple setup…every single year as commish it took me multiple tries to get simple FABB waivers set up similar to yahoo’s standard “runs on Tuesday nights, and then every dropped player is on waivers for 2 days”. Stuff that yahoo and now Sleeper just do out of the box.
I’ll never go back to MFL since none of my leagues are complex at all.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Yep the calendar entries and waiver setup is confusing as crap at MFL. And I’ve used it for 20 something years.
steelerfan1
Footballguy
MFL for me. I couldn’t stand Sleeper.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Agreed. I hate it
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
For a straight forward redraft league it’s yahoo for me all day long
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Not the case in my yahoo leagues
candian fantasy guy
Footballguy
We have the gold package, so not sure about that. It was almost 190 Canadian $ for us. Plus the majority of my league mates are all doing the boycott thing(as am I). So no more $$ going down south for a while.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
What was your beef with Sleeper? I've never used it, but would like to know why some hate it.
