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Which is more important, the kicker or the fullback?

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It is my belief that in today's salary cap era, NFL teams are so bogged down that kicker is among the top 5 most important positions in the NFL. However, I doubt no one will agree with me, so I'm just going to ask whether it is more important than the fullback. Don't get me wrong. I love fullbacks, and it saddens me that they are a dying breed in today's NFL. I just think that kickers really are that important.

 
A Fullback although very important never at any point in his career has to soley put the team on his back for any play. The kicker on the other hand faces these situations yearly. Kicker's are under appreciated by fake NFL fans; the kind who really don't know the game. A kicker is one of the toughest jobs in pro sports. You are given such a small margin of error to produce as a kicker in the NFL. It is the the smallest margin of error for any single position in the NFL. One kick may decide your career. QB's, WR's, RB's, DB's, Safeties can afford a lot more to miss a pass, drop a pass, fumble a pass, miss a tackle, miss making a play but as soon as a kicker misses a kick he is automatically put on the hot seat. Either he is washed up, or he never was good anyway. Oh, being a kicker is a tough job.

 
A kicker.

You can run an offense without a FB, but you cannot run special teams without the kicker.

 
A good fullback can make a good runningback into a great one, as well as protect the life of his qb. Quality kickers can make a difference in close games, but the fullback keeps drives alive throughout the entire game. Thus, he can help keep the opponents off the field and turn fg drives into td's.

 
A kicker.

You can run an offense without a FB, but you cannot run special teams without the kicker.
Hmmm... punts, kick returns, punt returns.... my bet is there would be a fullback on these units before there would be a kicker.
 
Interesting question, kickers have the spotlight on them and can decide games in one play, but FB's can be just as critical by doing all the unsung work over the course of a contest.

For example, a great FB can open holes for an RB, carry the ball for tough yards, catch passes in the flat, and protect his QB. Ironically, these talents are what can help move an offense to get into scoring position to give the kicker a chance to even get on the field to do his job.

However, some offenses do not utilize FB's very much, so they aren't as critical to a team's success.

I think the answer really comes down to a team by team basis. Good topic for discussion though :thumbup:

 
A Fullback although very important never at any point in his career has to soley put the team on his back for any play.
Fullback Lead on 3rd-2; 3rd-1; 3rd & inches; 4th-1 or 4th & inches. If he misses the LB, the HB gets stuffed. Those plays happen more often than FG attempts over the course of a game and season.
 
Kickers score points. One of the most underrated positions in football.

 
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Kickers score points. One of the most underrated positions in football.
Fullbacks score points, too. Who has a better chance of success: a FB attempting a Field Goal or a Kicker trying to block a linebacker?

 
Interesting question, kickers have the spotlight on them and can decide games in one play, but FB's can be just as critical by doing all the unsung work over the course of a contest.

For example, a great FB can open holes for an RB, carry the ball for tough yards, catch passes in the flat, and protect his QB. Ironically, these talents are what can help move an offense to get into scoring position to give the kicker a chance to even get on the field to do his job.

However, some offenses do not utilize FB's very much, so they aren't as critical to a team's success.

I think the answer really comes down to a team by team basis. Good topic for discussion though :thumbup:
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This is a very good question.

Given today's NFL offenses, there are fewer needs for a fullback. Yes Denver may throw a TD to Kyle Johnson or Seattle's Mack Strong may either run it himself or open a hole for Alexander, but for every example of a FB helping an offense you can find a team with a single RB set as a base offense. The Colts' base formation had no FB, nor do teams with an H-back rather than a fullback (Washington's Chris Cooley, for example).

Since you can find examples of teams not employing a fullback but EVERY team uses a kicker, I'd side with voting for the kicker.

 
This is a very good question.

Very, very good.

It brings to mind the age old question:

Which is more important, the mouth or the bazooka hole?

Apparently, the filter didn't like my four letter word for the excretory extremity.

 
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i'm surprised how many votes fullback has received. under half the teams in the NFL stick a lot of money into kickers, but almost zero teams put any real money into fullbacks

 
Kickers score points.  One of the most underrated positions in football.
Fullbacks score points, too. Who has a better chance of success: a FB attempting a Field Goal or a Kicker trying to block a linebacker?
You can replace a FB position a lot more then you can your FG kicker. I mean I know some FB's are better than others, but I think FB's are much more replaceable than kickers; making kickers more valuable. It is easier to look down the bench and find a big guy to go on and be a lead block because your FB got hurt as it is to find someone to go in and kick you the game winning field goal because your kicker got hurt. Teams can score without FB's but they can't score without kickers.
 
by "Carter Can Fly" do you mean Quincy Carter?
And by "Teams... can't score without kickers" do you mean except for touchdowns, safeties, and two-point conversions?
 
The since the demise of the fullback as the grinder on offense, the kicker is infinately more important for big moments. What I want is for the positional kicker to comeback and a Horning clone or Groza clone to make this situation moot........... :excited:

 
When speaking stictly value, fullbacks are so undervalued that they can usually be had for a decent price. Ask L.T., Alexander or Bettis how much a good fullback means to a RB. They can be had so cheap that you can significantly upgrade your running game and pass protection with very little expense. I'm speaking primarily of the 'blocking' fullbacks that come so cheaply, where I don't believe a good recieving fullback is nearly as valuble. If the salary cap goes out the window, I would change my answer to kicker. I'm just not so fond of a position that seems to be so bi-polar. Red hot one year, then off the mark and out of a job the next.

 
kickers...while some make some partially valid points about full backs being important....not all team even utilize a FB.

A good kicker is very important...both for FGs and kickoffs as well.

 
When a good chunk of the league's teams don't even have a fullback on the roster, it's tough to see why this is even a debate.

 
What's the highest a Fullback has gone in a draft? A true FB that is. (Not Greg Jones)

Kickers seem to be more valuable to NFL teams.

 
What's the highest a Fullback has gone in a draft? A true FB that is. (Not Greg Jones)

Kickers seem to be more valuable to NFL teams.
Some of the notable FBs drafted in the last decade or so...Mike Alstott [Purdue] was drafted in the 2nd round, 35th overall.

Rob Konrad [syracuse] was drafted in the 2nd round, 43rd overall.

William Floyd [Florida State] was drafted in the 1st round, 28th overall.

 
Just an example...........

The Cowboys only had one fullback on their roster, several games of the season he didn't play and several games he wasn't even activated. They won 9 games.

The Cowboys had the worst kickers in the NFL. Three games were lost specifically because the kicker missed a field goal. Two other games could have been won if the kicker made the field goal.

That would put the Cowboys at 14-2 for the season. (two losses an act of God wouldn't have saved)

No way fullback is as important as kicker. JMHO

 
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The since the demise of the fullback as the grinder on offense, the kicker is infinately more important for big moments. What I want is for the positional kicker to comeback and a Horning clone or Groza clone to make this situation moot........... :excited:
Doug Flutie down?
 
A kicker.

You can run an offense without a FB, but you cannot run special teams without the kicker.
Hmmm... punts, kick returns, punt returns.... my bet is there would be a fullback on these units before there would be a kicker.
My mistake, I forgot that special teams did not include kickoffs and field goals.
 
A kicker.

You can run an offense without a FB, but you cannot run special teams without the kicker.
Hmmm... punts, kick returns, punt returns.... my bet is there would be a fullback on these units before there would be a kicker.
My mistake, I forgot that special teams did not include kickoffs and field goals.
It includes it, but is definitely not exclusive to it. The fact remains that you can run several units of the special teams without a kicker.
 
Just an example...........

The Cowboys only had one fullback on their roster, several games of the season he didn't play and several games he wasn't even activated. They won 9 games.

The Cowboys had the worst kickers in the NFL. Three games were lost specifically because the kicker missed a field goal. Two other games could have been won if the kicker made the field goal.

That would put the Cowboys at 14-2 for the season. (two losses an act of God wouldn't have saved)

No way fullback is as important as kicker. JMHO
Unless, of course, the presence of a good fullback put them in a situation where they didn't need those FGs to win.
 

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