Which RB would you rather have, Le'Veon Bell or Todd Gurley? (1 Viewer)

[Bob Magaw]

Meant in an actual NFL sense, not fantasy (in case they are different).

Not just this season, but going forward.

Factor in positives (Bell more accomplished receiver, Gurley may be a better pure rusher) as well as the negatives, Gurley returning from a knee injury, Bell suspended for two games and has some off field red flags.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I voted Bell. Talent wise it's a toss up, but as long as Fisher is around, I don't believe in St Louis's offense. Maybe if the Rams move to LA and change up the coaching staff, the equation changes. But as long as Big Ben is healthy and has those dynamic receiving options in Brown and Bryant, there's no reason Bell shouldn't be the most valuable back to own going forward. And I say that with great respect for Gurley.

 

[T.Rex]

Gurley for me quite easily. Better athlete younger and no NFL suspension under his belt.

 

[Baeddel Moon]

Gurley is on the first year of a rookie contract, Bell will be a free agent in 2017. Give me Gurley for that reason alone.

 

[Team Smokin']

I voted Bell. I own Bell in one league and Gurley in another. I'd like see some TD's from Gurley for confidence sake.

 

[irish eyes]

Gurley for me quite easily. Better athlete younger and no NFL suspension under his belt.

Better athlete?? Are you kidding. Apparently you don't watch much football. Its Bell over Gurley and it isn't remotely close.

 

[zamboni]

I'd like to see more from Gurley first, so that gives a decided edge to Bell right now, suspension concerns and all. Maybe in a year it's different, but have to go on what we know now.

In terms of value to the franchise, that's also tough. I think the Steelers are so well run that even without Bell, they'd be OK. Still, Ben is not getting any younger and getting banged up, and the offense is increasingly going through Bell. In St. Louis, Gurley's presence is huge given the QB situation and clearly Mason and Cunningham cannot fill that void. But have to see how the team responds this year first.

Net/net, for me it's Bell right now, but can easily see the pendulum shifting in a couple of years.

ETA: by the way, love the Gilmour avatar.

 

[mbrasi]

Gurley for me quite easily. Better athlete younger and no NFL suspension under his belt.

You have a point with his suspension, but other than that I see Bell as the better RB.

Give me the proven commodity in the early prime of his career with excellent vision and running ability. Don't get me wrong, I like Gurley but I think if you ask the Steelers organization if they would trade Bell for Gurley there's no way they would part with Bell.

Gurley doesn't even have a handful of games under his belt yet.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Gurley for me quite easily. Better athlete younger and no NFL suspension under his belt.

Better athlete?? Are you kidding. Apparently you don't watch much football. Its Bell over Gurley and it isn't remotely close.

Before college, Gurley competed internationally as a hurdler. There is a distinct possibility that it is not only close, but that Gurley is the superior athlete. I realize Bell lost weight, but at his combine, ran a 4.6 with a 31.5 VJ (latter doesn't scream great athlete).

Bell is a great pass catcher, maybe that is what you mean by athletic (?), but if so, I'm not sure that is a conventional sense or meaning. We don't have a combine time on Gurley, but he showed far more burst and explosiveness in college. I think if you tested him now, he would do better, despite being just a year removed from the knee injury.

 

[Interseptopus]

Bell is electrifying. It's like watching Tomlinson in his prime. Gurley looks great but it's still very early and he's already had one major knee injury. His shelf life, from a medical perspective, is lower based on that alone. Both are great backs but I'll take Bell any day from a sheer playmaking ability.

 

[Bob Magaw]

I'd like to see more from Gurley first, so that gives a decided edge to Bell right now, suspension concerns and all. Maybe in a year it's different, but have to go on what we know now.

In terms of value to the franchise, that's also tough. I think the Steelers are so well run that even without Bell, they'd be OK. Still, Ben is not getting any younger and getting banged up, and the offense is increasingly going through Bell. In St. Louis, Gurley's presence is huge given the QB situation and clearly Mason and Cunningham cannot fill that void. But have to see how the team responds this year first.

Net/net, for me it's Bell right now, but can easily see the pendulum shifting in a couple of years.

ETA: by the way, love the Gilmour avatar.

I get the more proven part. Both are great backs, not sure you can go wrong either way. Just about any human action can be a positive or negative when carried to extremes. Seeing things before others when right can be visionary or prescient, but when wrong, reckless and irresponsible. Waiting for confirmation can be prudent, but also timid and overly cautious. There is no slide rule or conversion chart for this stuff (like Parcells remark about insurance), it is as much art as science, and speaks to personal preference, and matters of taste and subjectivity.

Based on the poll, Gurley is the contrarian position, though could ultimately be correct. You are right, time will tell.

I'm impressed with the fact that despite rehabbing a knee injury, he has more 100 yard rushing games in his first two starts (6 carries week 3) than Bell did in his entire rookie season (13 games). Like Ian Fleming said, once is happenstance, twice coincidence, three times enemy action. If he keeps rolling up big numbers (146 and 159 yards in his first two starts most back-to-back for a Rams rookie RB in over a third of a century, since the great Eric Dickerson), some may come to the conclusion Gurley is better in less time than Bell has been in the league?

* We're not that kind of band. You can trust us.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Bell is electrifying. It's like watching Tomlinson in his prime. Gurley looks great but it's still very early and he's already had one major knee injury. His shelf life, from a medical perspective, is lower based on that alone. Both are great backs but I'll take Bell any day from a sheer playmaking ability.

I agree about the electrifying part, Bell has better lateral agility and COD ability, about as good as I've seen for his size. But I think Gurley is more explosive, I thought he was also electrifying in college. IMO, his ability to score from anywhere on the field as a breakaway threat is superior to Bell.

 

[Peyton Marino]

I take issue with calling Gurley a better pure rusher. Bell is the best runner in the league. His vision and patience are unmatched. He wins this pretty easily imo.

 

[jurb26]

Gurley for me quite easily. Better athlete younger and no NFL suspension under his belt.

Better athlete?? Are you kidding. Apparently you don't watch much football. Its Bell over Gurley and it isn't remotely close.

Before college, Gurley competed internationally as a hurdler. There is a distinct possibility that it is not only close, but that Gurley is the superior athlete. I realize Bell lost weight, but at his combine, ran a 4.6 with a 31.5 VJ (latter doesn't scream great athlete).

Bell is a great pass catcher, maybe that is what you mean by athletic (?), but if so, I'm not sure that is a conventional sense or meaning. We don't have a combine time on Gurley, but he showed far more burst and explosiveness in college. I think if you tested him now, he would do better, despite being just a year removed from the knee injury.

Irish needs to take off the Steeler glasses for a moment here. Gurley is the better athlete. Unfortunately we didn't get to see Gurley at the combine and place hard tangible numbers to him from a measurables standpoint. Nonetheless, I'm very confident he would measure better athletically. To be honest, I don't really think it would be close. Maybe now that Bell has lost a great deal of weight (though he lost a good deal FOR the combine) it would be closer. Still, Gurley is a freakish athlete. As you pointed out with his hurdling acumen.

Now, being a better athlete doesn't predetermine you as a better RB just like pure athletic ability doesn't automatically make anyone the best PLAYER at their position in the NFL. There is a lot more that goes into it.

This is a very tough call IMO. These are clearly the top 2 RBs on my list of RBs I might want to build a team around. My inclination is to pick Gurley. I like that he is younger and that he doesn't have a suspension under his belt. Also, what we are seeing from Gurley right now isn't even him a full speed. He's still getting back to form from his knee injury.

Even as a Steeler fan who loves Bell, I think 21 year old Gurley is the pick for me.

 

[ffldrew]

There were some right-left jump cuts Bell took the other night that I'm afraid could end Gurley's career. I'd take Bell but it's a close one.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Gurley for me quite easily. Better athlete younger and no NFL suspension under his belt.

Better athlete?? Are you kidding. Apparently you don't watch much football. Its Bell over Gurley and it isn't remotely close.

I love when people say that.

Do you work for the NFL? A scout ? You seem really smart and like you watch allot of Football.

BTW. Gurley is going to be a very good player, Bell is a great player. Both have huge upside. To say it's not close, shows your a narrow minded Bell owner and completely makes you look silly.

You may go now.

 

[Killtops]

I take issue with calling Gurley a better pure rusher. Bell is the best runner in the league. His vision and patience are unmatched. He wins this pretty easily imo.

I think the best pure runner in the league is Foster, when he's healthy.

I have dynasty shares in Gurley, but not Bell, and I voted for Bell. Gurley wins on pure talent, Bell wins on production and situation. If Gurley keeps on producing and his situation gets better (both of which look likely to happen) then it will be Gurley soon. For now though, definitely Bell.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Gurley is more explosive but I'm not sure he's necessarily a better runner because of that one trait (he can't match Bell in vision/patience). As a runner, I think it's a bit of a toss-up with each excelling in different areas. As a receiver, the answer is clear and that breaks the tie.

 

[DocHolliday]

Right now I would take Bell. He is a great RB. Proven commodity. Gurley may be great but I want to see that greatness over a whole season. This would be a more difficult decision at the end of the season if Gurley plays at Bell's level all season long.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Gurley for me quite easily. Better athlete younger and no NFL suspension under his belt.

Better athlete?? Are you kidding. Apparently you don't watch much football. Its Bell over Gurley and it isn't remotely close.

Before college, Gurley competed internationally as a hurdler. There is a distinct possibility that it is not only close, but that Gurley is the superior athlete. I realize Bell lost weight, but at his combine, ran a 4.6 with a 31.5 VJ (latter doesn't scream great athlete).Bell is a great pass catcher, maybe that is what you mean by athletic (?), but if so, I'm not sure that is a conventional sense or meaning. We don't have a combine time on Gurley, but he showed far more burst and explosiveness in college. I think if you tested him now, he would do better, despite being just a year removed from the knee injury.

Irish needs to take off the Steeler glasses for a moment here. Gurley is the better athlete. Unfortunately we didn't get to see Gurley at the combine and place hard tangible numbers to him from a measurables standpoint. Nonetheless, I'm very confident he would measure better athletically. To be honest, I don't really think it would be close. Maybe now that Bell has lost a great deal of weight (though he lost a good deal FOR the combine) it would be closer. Still, Gurley is a freakish athlete. As you pointed out with his hurdling acumen.Now, being a better athlete doesn't predetermine you as a better RB just like pure athletic ability doesn't automatically make anyone the best PLAYER at their position in the NFL. There is a lot more that goes into it.

This is a very tough call IMO. These are clearly the top 2 RBs on my list of RBs I might want to build a team around. My inclination is to pick Gurley. I like that he is younger and that he doesn't have a suspension under his belt. Also, what we are seeing from Gurley right now isn't even him a full speed. He's still getting back to form from his knee injury.

Even as a Steeler fan who loves Bell, I think 21 year old Gurley is the pick for me.

The current ratio (84 votes) is roughly 2/3 Bell, 1/3 Gurley, which is probably about right, and reflects differences in risk aversion/tolerance. Casting your lot with the more established player is usually right. Until it is wrong. Gurley only has two starts, but I see his so far scant NFL resume as an extension and confirmation of near unanimous scouting buzz and rumbling that he was maybe the best since Peterson. I haven't seen anything to cast doubt on that.

Perhaps Irish Eyes thinks of being a great back (which Bell certainly is) and athleticism as synonymous or interchangeable. I don't. If anything, the conclusion I draw, which isn't new, but has had earlier examples at other positions in previous seasons, is that you don't have to be a great athlete to be a great RB (or other position). Bell has outstanding COD and receiving skills, which is one sense of athletic. But as it is commonly defined for me, it wouldn't be conventional to cite a 31.5" VJ as "athletic". And somebody who was a world class hurdler (albeit, in their junior age group, no idea if he could have been Olympic caliber if he focused on track instead of football?) is a demonstrably good athlete.

I'm kind of with you, I think Gurley could run a sub-4.5 today. Also, there are plenty of great athletes that aren't great players, and vice verce (for me, Jerry Rice was sort of the poster child for a player that didn't test off the charts, but that obviously wasn't an obstacle to becoming the GOAT). Though the ideal is probably to have both, great athleticism and positional traits/attributes. Gurley clearly is faster and more explosive. From what I've seen, Bell is shiftier and has better stop on a dime, make you miss ability, but Gurley also exhibits patience, vision, elusiveness. I think Gurley is a more dangerous breakaway threat and better able to score from anywhere. Bell a more skilled receiver, and probably in pass pro, but I think Gurley has a lot of potential in those areas, and looked good in college.

* It has to be these two, when you factor in the confluence of age with talent. Age leaves out Peterson, Charles (just had second torn ACL), Lynch, Forte and Foster. I don't see any other young RBs (like Lacy) with their skill level.

 

[Bob Magaw]

I take issue with calling Gurley a better pure rusher. Bell is the best runner in the league. His vision and patience are unmatched. He wins this pretty easily imo.

As noted above, in two starts, Gurley has more 100 yard rushing games than Bell did in his entire rookie season (13 games).

Part of that is usage (Gurley had 30 carries Sunday, Bell wasn't seeing that kind of volume early), than you can go to efficiency. Bell's Y/A average was close to 3.5 as a rookie. Gurley I think is leading the league. IMO it is debatable who is the better pure rusher.

 

[Adam Harstad]

I'm much, much, much more confident that Le'Veon Bell is historically great than I am that Gurley is historically great. The sample size is just so much larger. How much upside does Gurley have over Bell? If Gurley really is as great as we all think he can be, how much better is that than how good we already know Bell is? I'd say not very much, if any. Bell is a truly rare two-way threat.

In my mind, a bet on Gurley is a bet at long odds with very low potential payoff. A bet on Bell is a bet at short odds with very high potential payoff. That's an easy call. I'll take the guy I know beyond a shadow of a doubt is absolutely phenomenal over a guy who I suspect has the potential to be 5% more absolutely phenomenal.

 

[spider321]

Gurley for me quite easily. Better athlete younger and no NFL suspension under his belt.

Better athlete?? Are you kidding. Apparently you don't watch much football. Its Bell over Gurley and it isn't remotely close.

I watch a lot of college and NFL football(as I'm sure most of us do).

...and, yes, Gurley is more athletic than Bell.

 

[JackReacher]

I'll take the guy I know beyond a shadow of a doubt is absolutely phenomenal over a guy who I suspect has the potential to be 5% more absolutely phenomenal.

Bell is a very good NFL back, but this is way over the top. He had a teriffic second season. But if forced to choose, I would absolutely call Gurley a phenom before Bell.

 

[jurb26]

In my mind, a bet on Gurley is a bet at long odds with very low potential payoff. A bet on Bell is a bet at short odds with very high potential payoff. That's an easy call. I'll take the guy I know beyond a shadow of a doubt is absolutely phenomenal over a guy who I suspect has the potential to be 5% more absolutely phenomenal.

Am I the only one completely confused by this?

 

[spider321]

In my mind, a bet on Gurley is a bet at long odds with very low potential payoff. A bet on Bell is a bet at short odds with very high potential payoff. That's an easy call. I'll take the guy I know beyond a shadow of a doubt is absolutely phenomenal over a guy who I suspect has the potential to be 5% more absolutely phenomenal.

Am I the only one completely confused by this?

I think Harstad is a VERY numbers/percentages/statistics sorta guy.

I'll try to communicate with him...

11111000011 000011100 0010101 1101011110010 1

 

[jurb26]

In my mind, a bet on Gurley is a bet at long odds with very low potential payoff. A bet on Bell is a bet at short odds with very high potential payoff. That's an easy call. I'll take the guy I know beyond a shadow of a doubt is absolutely phenomenal over a guy who I suspect has the potential to be 5% more absolutely phenomenal.

Am I the only one completely confused by this?

I think Harstad is a VERY numbers/percentages/statistics sorta guy.

I'll try to communicate with him...

11111000011 000011100 0010101 1101011110010 1

 

[Milkman]

Today?

Bell and it's not close.

If they both continue to play like they have all the way through the year.

Bell. He has a super high floor. In his last 19 regular season games he's averaging over 5 catches a game. He's an absolute lock for 15 points every game. Ceiling is as high as any RB in the league too.

 

[Banger]

I can understand the reluctance to go with gurley now with the limited sample size but I think at the end of the year this poll would look dramatically different in Gurleys favor.

 

[msudaisy26]

Gurley might be a better runner/athlete, but as an overall running back in the NFL it is Bell and not close. There is no one on the same planet right now as an all around back than Bell. The proof is in the fact that teams are daring Vick to beat them and Bell is still averaging over 5 yards a carry.

 

[Milkman]

I can understand the reluctance to go with gurley now with the limited sample size but I think at the end of the year this poll would look dramatically different in Gurleys favor.

I don't understand this because Gurley's ceiling is what Bell is right now. So if they are both healthy it's impossible for Gurley to be worth more.

 

[Banger]

I can understand the reluctance to go with gurley now with the limited sample size but I think at the end of the year this poll would look dramatically different in Gurleys favor.

I don't understand this because Gurley's ceiling is what Bell is right now. So if they are both healthy it's impossible for Gurley to be worth more.

The whole premise of this thread is going forward so in my mind of both are equal you go with the younger player as you'll get the productivity for longer

 

[msudaisy26]

I can understand the reluctance to go with gurley now with the limited sample size but I think at the end of the year this poll would look dramatically different in Gurleys favor.

I don't understand this because Gurley's ceiling is what Bell is right now. So if they are both healthy it's impossible for Gurley to be worth more.

The whole premise of this thread is going forward so in my mind of both are equal you go with the younger player as you'll get the productivity for longer

You are trying to predict way to far into the future. We have no idea what will happen with coaching staffs, free agency, injuries and other things. They aren't equal right now. Gurley is trying to get where Bell is, so for the next 2 or 3 years give me the guy that is 23 and already there compared to the guy that is 21 and trying to get there.

 

[spider321]

I can understand the reluctance to go with gurley now with the limited sample size but I think at the end of the year this poll would look dramatically different in Gurleys favor.

I don't understand this because Gurley's ceiling is what Bell is right now. So if they are both healthy it's impossible for Gurley to be worth more.

Yes, Bell is the best proven RB in the NFL right now, but...

...Bell was never the physical freak/prospect that Todd Gurley is.

Gurley's ceiling, imho, is higher than any RB in the last 15 years.

 

[Hankmoody]

Meant in an actual NFL sense, not fantasy (in case they are different).

Not just this season, but going forward.

Factor in positives (Bell more accomplished receiver, Gurley may be a better pure rusher) as well as the negatives, Gurley returning from a knee injury, Bell suspended for two games and has some off field red flags.

You should re-do the poll with this clarified in the subject for most accurate results,

Real NFL I take Gurley by a mile. Bell isn't a transcendent talent like Gurley. He's really good, but the talent gap is significant.

Fantasy, I take Bell. I own Gurley twice, paid dearly for him both times, and would trade him straight up for Bell in a heartbeat. Bell's proven PPR performance tips the scales pretty easily. He's only a couple of years older than Gurley, so still plenty of mileage left, and he's a safer long term play, even in dynasty.

 

[Dismattle]

Voted Bell.. Honestly, I dont think theres a conest Gurley suffered an ACL

Fortunately Gurley was able to rehab his injury, but hell never be 100% (imo)..

Is 95%+ Gurley better than a 100%Bell Im not a scout, and I dont watch enough football to know more than you..

So its just a guess, when I say Nope

 

[fred_1_15301]

Meant in an actual NFL sense, not fantasy (in case they are different).

Not just this season, but going forward.

Factor in positives (Bell more accomplished receiver, Gurley may be a better pure rusher) as well as the negatives, Gurley returning from a knee injury, Bell suspended for two games and has some off field red flags.

You should re-do the poll with this clarified in the subject for most accurate results,

Real NFL I take Gurley by a mile. Bell isn't a transcendent talent like Gurley. He's really good, but the talent gap is significant.

Fantasy, I take Bell. I own Gurley twice, paid dearly for him both times, and would trade him straight up for Bell in a heartbeat. Bell's proven PPR performance tips the scales pretty easily. He's only a couple of years older than Gurley, so still plenty of mileage left, and he's a safer long term play, even in dynasty.

At this point in his career, Bell sure looks like a transcendent talent to me . We're not talking about Bell coming out of college. We're talking about the current model who looks pretty unstoppable.

 

[T J]

Gurley for me quite easily. Better athlete younger and no NFL suspension under his belt.

By what two years? Maybe 3? And no suspension - just a surgically repaired knee.

 

[Adam Harstad]

In my mind, a bet on Gurley is a bet at long odds with very low potential payoff. A bet on Bell is a bet at short odds with very high potential payoff. That's an easy call. I'll take the guy I know beyond a shadow of a doubt is absolutely phenomenal over a guy who I suspect has the potential to be 5% more absolutely phenomenal.

Am I the only one completely confused by this?

I think Gurley can be better than Bell. But I think there's like a 50% chance he delivers on that, and if he does, he'll be maybe 5-10% better. I'd rather have a guaranteed $1 over something that could be worth anywhere from $.50 to $1.10. The upside just doesn't warrant the risk.

Edit: or to put it in terms of player comps... let's say that I think that Le'Veon Bell is Stephen Jackson, while Todd Gurley has the potential to be Adrian Peterson. Peterson is better than Jackson, but I'd take a guaranteed Stephen Jackson over a potential Adrian Peterson.

 

[Tau837]

Gurley might be a better runner/athlete, but as an overall running back in the NFL it is Bell and not close. There is no one on the same planet right now as an all around back than Bell. The proof is in the fact that teams are daring Vick to beat them and Bell is still averaging over 5 yards a carry.

Well, their most recent game was against the Chargers, one of the bottom 2 rush defenses in the NFL (Browns), so that inflated his average.

 

[Warrior]

lol, it's not close. Bell is a proven STUD who can carry a team on his back. He's elite, dependable, still young, he's got it all.

Gurley is a guy with two good games under his belt. He could just as easily be Trent Richardson-level as he could be Leveon Bell-level.

I can't believe this is even a serious question.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I'm always overly concerned by a player who hurts his ligaments on non-contact cuts.

Its one thing if your foot gets stuck or you are landing from a big jump, but just running along and snikity is bothersome.

 

[fredsavage]

Gimme Gurley. I look to the NBA for sheer number of examples of return from knee repair and it's quite clear that players can often come back with little to no loss of explosion. I realize it's a different game but medically speaking it's just not a great career predictor. Gurley dominated the SEC and the closest comp to AP as reflected by his draft status and yes Trent Richardson also exists.

Alas Gurley looks great out of the gate and I expect it to continue indefinitely considering their personnel and coaching. He has almost every positive attribute you seek in a runner as if he were designed in a lab and Fisher is focused on getting this kid to Canton. He was BEAMING in the press conferences after taking the most replaceable position in the NFL with a top pick when most had Mason penciled in as back of the future.

 

[georg013]

Give me Gurley. The fact that he is even in the conversation after two NFL games is commendable. Take Bell out of his high volume, plush offense and what do you have? A slower Lesean McCoy. Gurley is performing with nothing else in St. Louis and STILL keeping them in games. Can't wait to see him next year when he is all patched up. Not a knock on Bell, he is a good RB but I think his situation makes him more valuable than he really is. I would like to see him without guys like Antonio Brown, Big Ben, Bryant, and their offensive coordinator. Again, good back but I think his fantasy production has clouded the minds of his owners! Please don't be mad at me Bell owners. It's just one guy's opinion. For what it is worth, I own Bell.

Clarification: My Lesean McCoy reference was with regard to his receiving ability and "cutting". We see what happened to Lesean and it could happen to Bell. Again, I own him.

 

[msudaisy26]

Gurley might be a better runner/athlete, but as an overall running back in the NFL it is Bell and not close. There is no one on the same planet right now as an all around back than Bell. The proof is in the fact that teams are daring Vick to beat them and Bell is still averaging over 5 yards a carry.

Well, their most recent game was against the Chargers, one of the bottom 2 rush defenses in the NFL (Browns), so that inflated his average.

That didn't inflate his average at all, I don't care how bad an NFL team is against the run. If they are going to make the quarterback beat you because they don't think he can, they are going to have some success at least slowing down the run.

 

[spider321]

lol, it's not close.

Stop it. Everyone. This schtick got old a long time ago.

He could just as easily be Trent Richardson-level as he could be Leveon Bell-level.

No.

 

[msudaisy26]

Give me Gurley. The fact that he is even in the conversation after two NFL games is commendable. Take Bell out of his high volume, plush offense and what do you have? A slower Lesean McCoy. Gurley is performing with nothing else in St. Louis and STILL keeping them in games. Can't wait to see him next year when he is all patched up. Not a knock on Bell, he is a good RB but I think his situation makes him more valuable than he really is. I would like to see him without guys like Antonio Brown, Big Ben, Bryant, and their offensive coordinator. Again, good back but I think his fantasy production has clouded the minds of his owners! Please don't be mad at me Bell owners. It's just one guy's opinion. For what it is worth, I own Bell.

Clarification: My Lesean McCoy reference was with regard to his receiving ability and "cutting". We see what happened to Lesean and it could happen to Bell. Again, I own him.

Did you see his last 2 games without Bryant and Ben? He basically led them to 2 victories if their kicker could make a field goal. Did you see what happened to that offense last year when he missed the playoff game? I think all the Steelers benefit from having all those weapons.

 

[georg013]

Give me Gurley. The fact that he is even in the conversation after two NFL games is commendable. Take Bell out of his high volume, plush offense and what do you have? A slower Lesean McCoy. Gurley is performing with nothing else in St. Louis and STILL keeping them in games. Can't wait to see him next year when he is all patched up. Not a knock on Bell, he is a good RB but I think his situation makes him more valuable than he really is. I would like to see him without guys like Antonio Brown, Big Ben, Bryant, and their offensive coordinator. Again, good back but I think his fantasy production has clouded the minds of his owners! Please don't be mad at me Bell owners. It's just one guy's opinion. For what it is worth, I own Bell.

Clarification: My Lesean McCoy reference was with regard to his receiving ability and "cutting". We see what happened to Lesean and it could happen to Bell. Again, I own him.

Did you see his last 2 games without Bryant and Ben? He basically led them to 2 victories if their kicker could make a field goal. Did you see what happened to that offense last year when he missed the playoff game? I think all the Steelers benefit from having all those weapons.

He still has playmakers around him and an offensive scheme that makes him the feature attraction. Vick may not be Ben but the threat of him taking off is very real. Gurley has NO ONE else. It is just him and he is still BEASTING.

 

[spider321]

Both are great.

Bell is more proven, is a better receiver, and has a much better team/system around him.

Gurley is more athletic/fast, a better pure runner, and has nothing around him.

Bell is obviously a more sure bet because he has played at a high level for over 2 seasons in the NFL.

Gurley, imo, is more talented but his team/injury history may impede his career.

Again, BOTH ARE GREAT, and light-years ahead of any other dynasty RB's.

 

[georg013]

Both are great.

Bell is more proven, is a better receiver, and has a much better team/system around him.

Gurley is more athletic/fast, a better pure runner, and has nothing around him.

Bell is obviously a more sure bet because he has played at a high level for over 2 seasons in the NFL.

Gurley, imo, is more talented but his team/injury history may impede his career.

Again, BOTH ARE GREAT, and light-years ahead of any other dynasty RB's.

And you sir own both. Great job!