Which team has the best overall offense? (1 Viewer)

[jwvdcw]

13 requests for this in the last 1/2 hour alone! Best offense overall, taking into account all positions and backups.

 

[Bevo]

Voted KC, but how could you leave out Seattle and include Tampa?

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

WTF!Washington and no Chicago?!?!?Bastage!

 

[SSOG]

Denver. It's the only offense in the league that I could see finishing the season with a 4000 yard passer and a 2000 yard rusher. Their O-line has been absolutely MONSTROUS in the preseason, especially in run blocking.

 

[-OZ-]

Denver. It's the only offense in the league that I could see finishing the season with a 4000 yard passer and a 2000 yard rusher. Their O-line has been absolutely MONSTROUS in the preseason, especially in run blocking.

It isn't even the only team in the West that "could" do that.

Not even the most likely to do so.

 

[jwvdcw]

Denver. It's the only offense in the league that I could see finishing the season with a 4000 yard passer and a 2000 yard rusher. Their O-line has been absolutely MONSTROUS in the preseason, especially in run blocking.

KC, St Louis, and Indy could do that imo

 

[Pigskin P]

You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.

 

[Quasimoto]

If you're going to include Washington you may as well include San Fran, Miami, and Houston. The fact that the Skins have the 3rd most votes at this posting is proof positive that these polls are utterly without merit.

 

[16101]

If you're going to include Washington you may as well include San Fran, Miami, and Houston. The fact that the Skins have the 3rd most votes at this posting is proof positive that these polls are utterly without merit.

I'm wondering why they were even included.

 

[phrozen]

If you're going to include Washington you may as well include San Fran, Miami, and Houston. The fact that the Skins have the 3rd most votes at this posting is proof positive that these polls are utterly without merit.

the 8 votes are jwvdcw and his 7 alias'

 

[jwvdcw]

You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.

TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?

 

[jwvdcw]

If you're going to include Washington you may as well include San Fran, Miami, and Houston. The fact that the Skins have the 3rd most votes at this posting is proof positive that these polls are utterly without merit.

the 8 votes are jwvdcw and his 7 alias'

I only have 2 alaises(sp?) and neither of them voted in this poll at all yet alone for Washington...feel free to get a mod in here to verify if you really care that much.

 

[16101]

You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.

TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?

If not, they should have.

 

[Magic Man]

Where's Minnesota?

 

[jwvdcw]

Where's Minnesota?

Minnesota has an average o-line, a below average WR corps, an injury ravaged RB corps, and are changing to a more ball control philosophy. While I'm not as high as some here, I will grant you that Culpepper is a good QB, but he isn't enough to make that into the best offense in the league imo. Do you really think that they are the #1 offense in the entire league?

 

[jwvdcw]

You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.

TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?

If not, they should have.

Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.

 

[RenegadeGM]

If you're going to include Washington you may as well include San Fran, Miami, and Houston. The fact that the Skins have the 3rd most votes at this posting is proof positive that these polls are utterly without merit.

the 8 votes are jwvdcw and his 7 alias'

oh, was Artose Pinner traded to the 'Skins???

Ren

 

[Pigskin P]

You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.

TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?

If not, they should have.

Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.

Apparently, we can find 8 who believe the Redskins are, so I don't think 3 for Seattle would be much of a stretch.

 

[caglassc]

You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.

TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?

If not, they should have.

Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.

With Seattle's schedule this year I would think they should have been included.

 

[MBH_14]

Where's Minnesota?

Minnesota has an average o-line, a below average WR corps, an injury ravaged RB corps, and are changing to a more ball control philosophy. While I'm not as high as some here, I will grant you that Culpepper is a good QB, but he isn't enough to make that into the best offense in the league imo. Do you really think that they are the #1 offense in the entire league?

True, they might not be the best, but by not including them and including Washington, your telling me that Washington has a better chance at being #1 then Minnesota?

 

[jwvdcw]

You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.

TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?

If not, they should have.

Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.

With Seattle's schedule this year I would think they should have been included.

No, the poll is not "who will perform the best this year?". Therefore, schedule should not matter at all. The question is "who is the best overall offense?".

 

[jwvdcw]

Where's Minnesota?

Minnesota has an average o-line, a below average WR corps, an injury ravaged RB corps, and are changing to a more ball control philosophy. While I'm not as high as some here, I will grant you that Culpepper is a good QB, but he isn't enough to make that into the best offense in the league imo. Do you really think that they are the #1 offense in the entire league?

True, they might not be the best, but by not including them and including Washington, your telling me that Washington has a better chance at being #1 then Minnesota?

No, thats not what I'm telling you. I am a master at making polls, so here is a free lesson:When making a poll, you don't include the choices that you think are most deserving. You include the choices that you think will garner the most votes. IMHO, Washington would get more votes than Seattle in a poll like this. Now, if we had a poll asking who had a better offense of the two, I would expect Seattle to win. However, in a poll that is only for the #1 offense, I would expect more people to vote for Washington than Seattle.

 

[MBH_14]

Where's Minnesota?

Minnesota has an average o-line, a below average WR corps, an injury ravaged RB corps, and are changing to a more ball control philosophy. While I'm not as high as some here, I will grant you that Culpepper is a good QB, but he isn't enough to make that into the best offense in the league imo. Do you really think that they are the #1 offense in the entire league?

True, they might not be the best, but by not including them and including Washington, your telling me that Washington has a better chance at being #1 then Minnesota?

No, thats not what I'm telling you. I am a master at making polls, so here is a free lesson:When making a poll, you don't include the choices that you think are most deserving. You include the choices that you think will garner the most votes. IMHO, Washington would get more votes than Seattle in a poll like this. Now, if we had a poll asking who had a better offense of the two, I would expect Seattle to win. However, in a poll that is only for the #1 offense, I would expect more people to vote for Washington than Seattle.

This is some interesting logic towards making a poll.....

 

[jwvdcw]

Where's Minnesota?

Minnesota has an average o-line, a below average WR corps, an injury ravaged RB corps, and are changing to a more ball control philosophy. While I'm not as high as some here, I will grant you that Culpepper is a good QB, but he isn't enough to make that into the best offense in the league imo. Do you really think that they are the #1 offense in the entire league?

True, they might not be the best, but by not including them and including Washington, your telling me that Washington has a better chance at being #1 then Minnesota?

No, thats not what I'm telling you. I am a master at making polls, so here is a free lesson:When making a poll, you don't include the choices that you think are most deserving. You include the choices that you think will garner the most votes. IMHO, Washington would get more votes than Seattle in a poll like this. Now, if we had a poll asking who had a better offense of the two, I would expect Seattle to win. However, in a poll that is only for the #1 offense, I would expect more people to vote for Washington than Seattle.

This is some interesting logic towards making a poll.....

Interesting? Its the correct logic. Why list options that won't get votes? Shouldn't you just list the options the will get votes?

 

[MBH_14]

Where's Minnesota?

Minnesota has an average o-line, a below average WR corps, an injury ravaged RB corps, and are changing to a more ball control philosophy. While I'm not as high as some here, I will grant you that Culpepper is a good QB, but he isn't enough to make that into the best offense in the league imo. Do you really think that they are the #1 offense in the entire league?

True, they might not be the best, but by not including them and including Washington, your telling me that Washington has a better chance at being #1 then Minnesota?

No, thats not what I'm telling you. I am a master at making polls, so here is a free lesson:When making a poll, you don't include the choices that you think are most deserving. You include the choices that you think will garner the most votes. IMHO, Washington would get more votes than Seattle in a poll like this. Now, if we had a poll asking who had a better offense of the two, I would expect Seattle to win. However, in a poll that is only for the #1 offense, I would expect more people to vote for Washington than Seattle.

This is some interesting logic towards making a poll.....

Interesting? Its the correct logic. Why list options that won't get votes? Shouldn't you just list the options the will get votes?

why? its your opinion whether they will get the votes or not. You really dont know whether they will or not unless you put them in there. You can assume they wont, but how would you really know unless you put them in there? Already people are wondering why Seattle isnt listed, that should give you a clue that there would have been some that would have voted for them. As for it being correct logic, that is your opinion, but i will have to disagree with it, but its your poll, so you can do what you want, i just think its funny is all.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

Why on earth would you include Tampa Bay and Washingtion in this poll?And the fact that you're trying to defend your decision not include Seattle is beyond stupid.

 

[caglassc]

You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.

TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?

If not, they should have.

Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.

With Seattle's schedule this year I would think they should have been included.

No, the poll is not "who will perform the best this year?". Therefore, schedule should not matter at all. The question is "who is the best overall offense?".

 

[MBH_14]

Why on earth would you include Tampa Bay and Washingtion in this poll?

And the fact that you're trying to defend your decision not include Seattle is beyond stupid.

Thats what i am trying to tell him.

 

[MGD Destroyer]

No, thats not what I'm telling you. I am a master at making polls, so here is a free lesson:

When making a poll, you don't include the choices that you think are most deserving. You include the choices that you think will garner the most votes. IMHO, Washington would get more votes than Seattle in a poll like this. Now, if we had a poll asking who had a better offense of the two, I would expect Seattle to win. However, in a poll that is only for the #1 offense, I would expect more people to vote for Washington than Seattle.

Ayup, I remember the first time I got high..........I also remeber why I quit.

 

[-OZ-]

You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.

TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?

If not, they should have.

Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.

With Seattle's schedule this year I would think they should have been included.

No, the poll is not "who will perform the best this year?". Therefore, schedule should not matter at all. The question is "who is the best overall offense?".

The scary thing is I can actually see his reasoning. The best offense isn't neccessarily the one that scores the most points in the season, it's the one that can't be stopped from dictating the game.

 

[-OZ-]

Why on earth would you include Tampa Bay and Washingtion in this poll?

And the fact that you're trying to defend your decision not include Seattle is beyond stupid.

Thats what i am trying to tell him.

Here's a hint... how many replies has the inclusion of Washington instead of Seattle gotten? Thereby keeping this on top, thereby garnering votes.

 

[Saint]

I think I have become dumber from reading this post.

 

[DaWidowMaker]

I think with the addition of Peerless you HAVE to add Dallas. They will throw the ball alot more than most of you think.

 

[16101]

I think with the addition of Peerless you HAVE to add Dallas. They will throw the ball alot more than most of you think.

What?

 

[DaWidowMaker]

I know most of you are basing this off last year but I'm willing to bet that the Dallas offense with the addition of Price is going to be bananas!:Bledsoe<ManningJulius=EdgeGlenn, Keyshawn, Price= Harrison, Wayne, StokelyWhitten>ClarkFlozell, Allen, Rivera>Saturday and the rest.....interested in reading the arguments regarding that...and remember this isn't 04' baby!!!

 

[PRS Guy]

Glenn, Keyshawn, Price= Harrison, Wayne, Stokely

 

[MGD Destroyer]

I know most of you are basing this off last year but I'm willing to bet that the Dallas offense with the addition of Price is going to be bananas!:

Bledsoe<<<Manning

Julius<Edge

Glenn, Keyshawn, Price<<< Harrison, Wayne, Stokely

Whitten>Clark

Flozell, Allen, Rivera>>Saturday and the rest.....

interested in reading the arguments regarding that...and remember this isn't 04' baby!!!

fixed

 

[-OZ-]

I know most of you are basing this off last year but I'm willing to bet that the Dallas offense with the addition of Price is going to be bananas!:

Bledsoe<Manning

Julius=Edge

Glenn, Keyshawn, Price= Harrison, Wayne, Stokely

Whitten>Clark

Flozell, Allen, Rivera>Saturday and the rest.....

interested in reading the arguments regarding that...and remember this isn't 04' baby!!!

Let's try again.Rattay = Manning

Barlow = Edge...

 

[Bevo]

I know most of you are basing this off last year but I'm willing to bet that the Dallas offense with the addition of Price is going to be bananas!:

Bledsoe<Manning

Julius=Edge

Glenn, Keyshawn, Price= Harrison, Wayne, Stokely

Whitten>Clark

Flozell, Allen, Rivera>Saturday and the rest.....

interested in reading the arguments regarding that...and remember this isn't 04' baby!!!

That's crazy! And I am a Dallas fan!The Dallas receivers aren't worthy of sniffing the jocks of the Colts WRs. And that's not too mention that the guy getting them balls is a shma of a mockery of the QB that he was once upon a time.

 

[MGD Destroyer]

a shma of a mockery of the QB

Are you trying to say Bledsoe is a traveshamockery?

 

[16101]

I know most of you are basing this off last year but I'm willing to bet that the Dallas offense with the addition of Price is going to be bananas!:

Bledsoe<Manning

Julius=Edge

Glenn, Keyshawn, Price= Harrison, Wayne, Stokely

Whitten>Clark

Flozell, Allen, Rivera>Saturday and the rest.....

interested in reading the arguments regarding that...and remember this isn't 04' baby!!!

Parcells is going to rely on his defense and running the ball 25-40 times a game to win. It wouldn't be a surprise to see zero of the Cowboys receivers finish with a thousand yards or more than 5 TDs.

 

[caglassc]

You have TB and Washington, but not Seattle.

TB has 2 votes and Washington has 8 votes...do you really think more people would've voted for Seattle?

If not, they should have.

Can you find me 3 people who honestly believe that Seattle is the best offense in the entire league? TIA.

With Seattle's schedule this year I would think they should have been included.

No, the poll is not "who will perform the best this year?". Therefore, schedule should not matter at all. The question is "who is the best overall offense?".

The scary thing is I can actually see his reasoning. The best offense isn't neccessarily the one that scores the most points in the season, it's the one that can't be stopped from dictating the game.

Really, then explain to me how he puts Washington on the list and not Seattle!!!! Oh, that is right Ramsey is a studddddddddd! And that Portis guy has just torn up the League since moving to the Redskins! I give up - I really give up!

 

[broncofan13000]

The following is odd's for the highest scoring offense in the NFL for 2005/2006 from Intertops Sportsbook:

Indianapolis Colts 2.5

Kansas City Chiefs 3.5

Minnesota Vikings 7

Oakland Raiders 9

Green Bay Packers 13

New England Patriots 13

Denver Broncos 15

Philadelphia Eagles 15

San Diego Chargers 19

St. Louis Rams 19

Seattle Seahawks 21

Atlanta Falcons 26

Cincinnati Bengals 29

New Orleans Saints 29

Pittsburgh Steelers 31

Baltimore Ravens 34

Carolina Panthers 34

Detroit Lions 34

New York Jets 34

Arizona Cardinals 41

Dallas Cowboys 41

Jacksonville Jaguars 41

Tampa Bay Buccaneers 41

Tennessee Titans 41

Buffalo Bills 51

Houston Texans 51

New York Giants 51

Miami Dolphins 76

Washington Redskins 76

San Francisco 49ers 81

Chicago Bears 101

Cleveland Browns 101

19-1 odds on St. Louis.....i'm placing my bet

 

[caglassc]

Nice info Broncofan...very interesting list.

 

[broncofan13000]

Nice info Broncofan...very interesting list.

thanks, i just put down some on St.Louis & Indy. With St.Louis's schedule, i think they have a very realistic shot of leading the league, i'm tempted to put more....

 

[SSOG]

Denver. It's the only offense in the league that I could see finishing the season with a 4000 yard passer and a 2000 yard rusher. Their O-line has been absolutely MONSTROUS in the preseason, especially in run blocking.

It isn't even the only team in the West that "could" do that.

Not even the most likely to do so.

I will not argue that Kansas City is fully capable, and perhaps even LIKELY, to finish the season with a 4000 yard passer (assuming Green stays healthy). However, Kansas City's RBs over the last 3 seasons have COMBINED for 2069 yards, 1677 yards, and 1833 yards. Only once have they broken 2000 as a unit. I doubt the TEAM breaks 2000 yards this season, let alone a single rusher. It would take a MAJOR offensive shift to accomplish the feat.San Diego's QBs combined for 3468, 3205, and 3348 yards over the last 3 seasons. Their RBs have combined for 1910, 1728, and 1831 yards over the last 3 seasons. While I don't dispute that Tomlinson is the kind of horse necessary for a 2000 yard season, it would take a major offensive shift for San Diego to finish the season with EITHER a 4000 yard passer OR a 2000 yard rusher.

Oakland... well, Oakland is Oakland. Oakland was dead last in the league in rushing last season, and have made no real improvements to the offensive line. I give Jordan pretty much no shot at rushing for 2000.

And now we get to Denver. They had a 4000 yard passer just last season. Denver has already produced a 2000 yard rusher once, and starting RBs in Denver average over 100 yards per start. Anderson got 1500 yards in 12 starts in 2000, which pro-rates to a 2000 yard season. Their RB rushing totals over the last 3 seasons are 2060, 2238, and 2052. All it would take is a slight increase in total offense from last season and Anderson and Plummer to stay healthy all season, and I could easily see them finish with a 4000 passer and 2000 rusher. I'm not saying it's LIKELY, I'm just saying that they're the only team in the entire NFL that I could realistically see accomplishing the feat.

Denver. It's the only offense in the league that I could see finishing the season with a 4000 yard passer and a 2000 yard rusher. Their O-line has been absolutely MONSTROUS in the preseason, especially in run blocking.

KC, St Louis, and Indy could do that imo

KC I've already addressed. Indy's RBs combined for 1821, 1631, and 1368 yards over the last 3 seasons. I don't see them realistically producing a 2000 yard rusher. St. Louis's RBs combined for 1516, 1370, and 1236. Mike Martz is famous for abandoning the run. The Rams haven't had even a *1000 yard* rusher since 2001, forget about 2000. In fact, I see them as one of the least likely teams in the entire NFL to spawn a 2000 yard rusher.Realistically, the only teams I could see producing a 2000 yard rusher are Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Denver, New York Jets, and possibly, POSSIBLY, San Diego. And of those teams, Denver's the only one that could realistically finish with a 4000 yard passer... since they did it just last season.

 

[Kleck.]

I am a master at making polls

When making a poll, you don't include the choices that you think are most deserving. You include the choices that you think will garner the most votes. IMHO, Washington would get more votes than Seattle in a poll like this. Now, if we had a poll asking who had a better offense of the two, I would expect Seattle to win. However, in a poll that is only for the #1 offense, I would expect more people to vote for Washington than Seattle.

It's nice that you think and believe that, but the truth is, not many people take your polls serious and probably just vote for the worst option. If Washington was replaced with Chicago, I'd bet they would have 10 votes too.

 

[broncofan13000]

Denver. It's the only offense in the league that I could see finishing the season with a 4000 yard passer and a 2000 yard rusher. Their O-line has been absolutely MONSTROUS in the preseason, especially in run blocking.

It isn't even the only team in the West that "could" do that.

Not even the most likely to do so.

I will not argue that Kansas City is fully capable, and perhaps even LIKELY, to finish the season with a 4000 yard passer (assuming Green stays healthy). However, Kansas City's RBs over the last 3 seasons have COMBINED for 2069 yards, 1677 yards, and 1833 yards. Only once have they broken 2000 as a unit. I doubt the TEAM breaks 2000 yards this season, let alone a single rusher. It would take a MAJOR offensive shift to accomplish the feat.San Diego's QBs combined for 3468, 3205, and 3348 yards over the last 3 seasons. Their RBs have combined for 1910, 1728, and 1831 yards over the last 3 seasons. While I don't dispute that Tomlinson is the kind of horse necessary for a 2000 yard season, it would take a major offensive shift for San Diego to finish the season with EITHER a 4000 yard passer OR a 2000 yard rusher.

Oakland... well, Oakland is Oakland. Oakland was dead last in the league in rushing last season, and have made no real improvements to the offensive line. I give Jordan pretty much no shot at rushing for 2000.

And now we get to Denver. They had a 4000 yard passer just last season. Denver has already produced a 2000 yard rusher once, and starting RBs in Denver average over 100 yards per start. Anderson got 1500 yards in 12 starts in 2000, which pro-rates to a 2000 yard season. Their RB rushing totals over the last 3 seasons are 2060, 2238, and 2052. All it would take is a slight increase in total offense from last season and Anderson and Plummer to stay healthy all season, and I could easily see them finish with a 4000 passer and 2000 rusher. I'm not saying it's LIKELY, I'm just saying that they're the only team in the entire NFL that I could realistically see accomplishing the feat.

Denver. It's the only offense in the league that I could see finishing the season with a 4000 yard passer and a 2000 yard rusher. Their O-line has been absolutely MONSTROUS in the preseason, especially in run blocking.

KC, St Louis, and Indy could do that imo

KC I've already addressed. Indy's RBs combined for 1821, 1631, and 1368 yards over the last 3 seasons. I don't see them realistically producing a 2000 yard rusher. St. Louis's RBs combined for 1516, 1370, and 1236. Mike Martz is famous for abandoning the run. The Rams haven't had even a *1000 yard* rusher since 2001, forget about 2000. In fact, I see them as one of the least likely teams in the entire NFL to spawn a 2000 yard rusher.Realistically, the only teams I could see producing a 2000 yard rusher are Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Denver, New York Jets, and possibly, POSSIBLY, San Diego. And of those teams, Denver's the only one that could realistically finish with a 4000 yard passer... since they did it just last season.

not to jump all over u, but i think seattle has a more then decent shot at producing a 4000 yard passer, and a 2000 yard rusher...Hasslebach finished last year with 3300 yards, in an offseason, and def. has the potential to hit the 4K mark....also SA hit 1700 yards, and with Seattle schedule he could very well hit 2K as well...

but i like denver doing it

 

[MBH_14]

I am a master at making polls

When making a poll, you don't include the choices that you think are most deserving. You include the choices that you think will garner the most votes. IMHO, Washington would get more votes than Seattle in a poll like this. Now, if we had a poll asking who had a better offense of the two, I would expect Seattle to win. However, in a poll that is only for the #1 offense, I would expect more people to vote for Washington than Seattle.

It's nice that you think and believe that, but the truth is, not many people take your polls serious and probably just vote for the worst option. If Washington was replaced with Chicago, I'd bet they would have 10 votes too.

 

[Pigskin P]

Wow, I can't believe this trip is still getting play.