Which team has the better IDPs (1 Viewer)

[KellysHeroes]

Just based on IDPs.. Which team is better.

14 team intial Dynasty

We did 15 non-rookie rounds; will do the last 18 rounds shortly after the real NFL Draft. So the 16th round is really a rookie draft and the rest of the vets that weren't picked.

League Settings and Rosters

IDP: 2 DL, 3 LB, 2 DB, 2 FLEX (NO QB AND CAN ONLY START 4 LBS)

League Scoring

2 pt solo / 1 pt assist / 3 pt sack / .2 per sack yd / 3 pt force fum / 3 pt fum recovery / 4 pt INT / 1 pt PD

Bonus

6 solos = 3

6 assist = 1

3 PD = 1

2 sacks / 2 force fum / 2 fum rec / 2 INT all = 2 additional pts each

Team A

DLs Kampman (13.02), Mathis (15.08)

LBs Morrison (8.11), Scott (10.08), EJ Henderson (12.07), Hayes (13.08), Wilson (15.06: not my pick, part of a trade)

DB Hope (10.12)

Team B

DLs Freeney (14.11), Schobel (13.03)

LBs Thomas, Adalius (15.04), Vilma (8.02), Ware (8.09)

DB Reed (13.04)

 

[Weiner Dog]

With sacks only worth approx 2x solo tackles, guys like Freeney, A Thomas and Ware will have a hard time being successful. I like the players on Team B better, but Team A is better built for this scoring system.

 

[bcr8f]

With sacks only worth approx 2x solo tackles, guys like Freeney, A Thomas and Ware will have a hard time being successful. I like the players on Team B better, but Team A is better built for this scoring system.

I agree. We have a similar scoring system and tackles are more important than sacks.

 

[KellysHeroes]

These teams are from another thread in the assistant coaches forum... other there are the full teams..

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=314730

I know he had the better offense; but when posters were saying he had better IDPs.. I got offended.

 

[UCSBgerry]

These teams are from another thread in the assistant coaches forum... other there are the full teams..

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=314730

I know he had the better offense; but when posters were saying he had better IDPs.. I got offended.

Don't forget to mention that Team B just lost his top 8 defensive end in Schobel.

 

[KellysHeroes]

These teams are from another thread in the assistant coaches forum... other there are the full teams..

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=314730

I know he had the better offense; but when posters were saying he had better IDPs.. I got offended.

Don't forget to mention that Team B just lost his top 8 defensive end in Schobel.

That was before this poll started... I want people to voted based on before the trade was made..I adjusted it in the full team poll.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Can't believe this is so Close

 

[CSH]

Team B for me.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Team B for me.

I don't get.. The IDPs on A seriously out preformed the ones on B last yr..DL A >> B

Team A Kampman (11/30/1979), was #3 on his team in tackles and was DL #2 in 06 and DL #10 in 05;

Mathis (2/26/1981), DL #9 in 06 and DL #7 in 05. 2 yrs running that Both guys have been top 10 DLs.. That consist.

Team B Freeney (2/19/1980), always fighting double teams / DL #78 in 06 & DL #28 in 05;

Schobel (9/1/1977) gets good sack #s / DL #8 in 06 & DL #4 in 05.

Kamp may wash out w/ Schobel.. But Mathis always out pts Free.. which should give me the edge..

LB A >>> B

Team A Morrison (2/19/1982) Oak MLB lead his team in tackles / going into his 3rd yr / LB #9 in 06 & LB #27 in 05

Bart Scott (8/18/1980) Bal WLB 2nd on team in tackles / #s will go up w/ out Thomas / may inhert the MLB when Ray is gone / LB #16 in 06 & LB #37 in 05

EJ Henderson (8/3/1980) Min MLB lead his team in tackles / moves into MLB may decrease his #s in the Tampa 2 system / LB #17 in 06

G Hayes (10/10/1980) Ari MLB lead his team in tackles / #s may be affected has team plays new 4 - 3 3 - 4 hybrid / LB #25 in 06

Wilson WW meat until he is picked up

Team B A Thomas NE OLB / NE never really has a top LB / was LB #23 in 06

Vilma (4/16/1982) NYJ ILB lead his team in tackles / didn't adjust to well in the 3 - 4 system last yr which is why his #s decreased / LB #40 in 06 & LB #1 in 05

Ware (7/31/1982) Dal OLB / New coaching staff should improve his #s / going into 3rd yr / LB #30 in 06

I can't belive that people are finding Bs LBs better... its a very Tackle Heavy League.. I will be starting 4 LBs each week that each finished in the top 25 last yr..

DB A > B

Have U seen Ed Reeds #s in the past 2 yrs.. their Awful.. Hope put up MLB type tackle #s last yr.

Team A Hope (9/29/1980) Ten SS 2nd on his team in tackles / DB #1 in 06 & DB #25 in 05 (different team)

Team B Reed (9/11/1978)Ed Reed is the best Safety in the NFL.. because of that he will never put up good FF #s since teams aviod him. 2006 he finished as DB 41

 

[Magic Man]

I like team B's IDP's more.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I like team B's IDP's more.

I guess so.. dude just got 6 straight votes

 

[KRANG]

I like team B's IDP's more.

I guess so.. dude just got 6 straight votes

1. you still have 1/2 the draft to go.2. don't get mad b/c people aren't voting for your team3. team B is better

 

[KellysHeroes]

I just don't understand.. As out scored Bs by alot last yr.. but yet their the better IDPs

Team A

Kampman had 250.60

Mathis had 199.60

Morrison had 271.40

B Scott had 250.50

Henderson had 241.50

Hayes had 225.40

Hope had 274.00

Team B

Free had 95.50

Schobel had 189.90

Thomas had 225,60

Ware had 214.80

Vilma had 199.00

Reed had 151.00

can someone tell me what I missing

 

[Zoomanji]

I just don't understand.. As out scored Bs by alot last yr.. but yet their the better IDPscan someone tell me what I missing

Maybe people are thinking that on the field B would be much better not realizing that in our fantasy world that A is probably better But you better start drafting better or your gonna get crushed

 

[Pipes]

I voted A and am shocked how anyone can vote for team B.

It must be due to the name recoginition with guys like Freeney and Reed who have a big name value but are mediocre in the realm of fantasy football.

The only position that it's close is LB and that's if Vilma returns to his 2005 form which with the Jets 3-4 scheme I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Maybe people are thinking that on the field B would be much better not realizing that in our fantasy world that A is probably better But you better start drafting better or your gonna get crushed

huh; If i have the better IDPs.. then how do I draft better

I voted A and am shocked how anyone can vote for team B.It must be due to the name recoginition with guys like Freeney and Reed who have a big name value but are mediocre in the realm of fantasy football.

The Voice of Reason..

 

[Zoomanji]

Maybe people are thinking that on the field B would be much better not realizing that in our fantasy world that A is probably better But you better start drafting better or your gonna get crushed

huh; If i have the better IDPs.. then how do I draft better

Joke, I thought you were still drafting.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Maybe people are thinking that on the field B would be much better not realizing that in our fantasy world that A is probably better But you better start drafting better or your gonna get crushed

huh; If i have the better IDPs.. then how do I draft better

Joke, I thought you were still drafting.

OH.. actually.. we finish ours on May 10th.. we have 18 rounds left where I only have 12 picks in those 18 rds. Luckly, I just have to draft IDP Back Ups since I have my 2 DL / 4 LB starters locked up. I need 2 more DBs; but can find them late in the draft as I have to worry about my O w/ the 1st couple of picks.

 

[PlayaHata]

I agree with a few others and am shocked that Team B is winning this poll.

Freeney, Vilma, and Reed are all big-name players but they are seriously over-rated in fantasy football.

 

[KRANG]

Maybe people are thinking that on the field B would be much better not realizing that in our fantasy world that A is probably better

But you better start drafting better or your gonna get crushed

huh; If i have the better IDPs.. then how do I draft better

Joke, I thought you were still drafting.

OH.. actually.. we finish ours on May 10th.. we have 18 rounds left where I only have 12 picks in those 18 rds. Luckly, I just have to draft IDP Back Ups since I have my 2 DL / 4 LB starters locked up. I need 2 more DBs; but can find them late in the draft as I have to worry about my O w/ the 1st couple of picks.

GL with that. How far into the draft are you?

 

[KellysHeroes]

OH.. actually.. we finish ours on May 10th.. we have 18 rounds left where I only have 12 picks in those 18 rds. Luckly, I just have to draft IDP Back Ups since I have my 2 DL / 4 LB starters locked up. I need 2 more DBs; but can find them late in the draft as I have to worry about my O w/ the 1st couple of picks.

GL with that. How far into the draft are you?

Check the 1st postWe did 15 non rookie rounds. We have 18 rounds left

I'm looking for 2 too 3 more WRs, a #2 TE, 2 more LBs, 1 DL, 3 DBs / maybe a 6th RB and Maybe a 3rd QB / 30 man roster with a 3 man rookie PS.

I recently made 2 trades w/ 2 different teams in order for me to back into the 1st round of the next draft, heres the results

I gave 1st 2008 / 17.12(2nd rd) / 19.03(4th) / 19.12(4th) / 22.12(7th)

For 16.08(1st) / 18.08(3rd) / 3rd 2008 / 20.08(5th) / 21.07(6th)

This will help me at WR or build up my RB depth.

Current Picks: 16.08 (1st rd), 18.08, 20.08, 21.07, 23.08, 24.12, 25.03, 26.12, 28.07, 31.08, 32.07, 33.08

2008 picks: 2nd 2008, 3rd 2008, Little Big Head 3rd 2008, 4th 2008, 5th 2008

 

[KRANG]

OH.. actually.. we finish ours on May 10th.. we have 18 rounds left where I only have 12 picks in those 18 rds. Luckly, I just have to draft IDP Back Ups since I have my 2 DL / 4 LB starters locked up. I need 2 more DBs; but can find them late in the draft as I have to worry about my O w/ the 1st couple of picks.

GL with that. How far into the draft are you?

Check the 1st postWe did 15 non rookie rounds. We have 18 rounds left

I'm looking for 2 too 3 more WRs, a #2 TE, 2 more LBs, 1 DL, 3 DBs / maybe a 6th RB and Maybe a 3rd QB / 30 man roster with a 3 man rookie PS.

I recently made 2 trades w/ 2 different teams in order for me to back into the 1st round of the next draft, heres the results

I gave 1st 2008 / 17.12(2nd rd) / 19.03(4th) / 19.12(4th) / 22.12(7th)

For 16.08(1st) / 18.08(3rd) / 3rd 2008 / 20.08(5th) / 21.07(6th)

This will help me at WR or build up my RB depth.

Current Picks: 16.08 (1st rd), 18.08, 20.08, 21.07, 23.08, 24.12, 25.03, 26.12, 28.07, 31.08, 32.07, 33.08

2008 picks: 2nd 2008, 3rd 2008, Little Big Head 3rd 2008, 4th 2008, 5th 2008

What WRs do you have now? I can't imagine much left after 15 rounds. Looks like you can land one with that 1.8 pick though. Curious to see what the other teams look like.

 

[KellysHeroes]

What WRs do you have now? I can't imagine much left after 15 rounds. Looks like you can land one with that 1.8 pick though. Curious to see what the other teams look like.

In the Sig boss; the team is under Theres a couple a Vets left.. but the WR Rookie class is very deep.. could get 1 @ 16.08 and another decent one at 18.08.

 

[TheGreatest]

I agree with a few others and am shocked that Team B is winning this poll. Freeney, Vilma, and Reed are all big-name players but they are seriously over-rated in fantasy football.

I agree for the most part, although I would not include Vilma. He is a solid tackler who should bounce back this year now that he has a year under that system. I would however include D. Ware. He relies soley on sacks to get his points and in this scoring system he is not going to put up big numbers with lack of tackles. He would be a great DL with his numbers, but only average at best as a LB.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I should of made this an experts only poll or something...

This polls shows that 18+ FBGers don't know about IDPs... and this poll has

 

[KRANG]

What WRs do you have now? I can't imagine much left after 15 rounds. Looks like you can land one with that 1.8 pick though.

Curious to see what the other teams look like.

In the Sig boss; the team is under Theres a couple a Vets left.. but the WR Rookie class is very deep.. could get 1 @ 16.08 and another decent one at 18.08.

You better hope that other owners take vets if you are banking on getting a 'decent' WR with the 36th roookie pick. You have put together a decent team, but it looks like without having a clearcut #1 WR your WR corps will be your achilles' heel all year.

 

[KRANG]

I should of made this an experts only poll or something...This polls shows that 18+ FBGers don't know about IDPs... and this poll has

I hope you are joking, otherwise GB putting a poll up and asking for opinions (obviously looking to prove the other guy wrong) just to have it not go your way and get crabby about it.

 

[LBH]

 

[Keith Lewis]

Not even a contest.

I voted B.

 

[KellysHeroes]

You better hope that other owners take vets if you are banking on getting a 'decent' WR with the 36th roookie pick. You have put together a decent team, but it looks like without having a clearcut #1 WR your WR corps will be your achilles' heel all year.

I'm 6 players ahead of most owners (most have only 15 players, I have 21) and most of them only have a couple of IDPs wheres I'm all set w/ them for the most part... I think their going to play catch up w/ the IDPs early.. so theres a good chance for me to get something decent w/ #36.

Not even a contest.I voted B.

name recoginition guy.. can't even justify why he thinks Team B is better after I throw the #s out there. read post #9 & #13 Bud.. quote them and tell me why Team B is better.

 

[Keith Lewis]

You better hope that other owners take vets if you are banking on getting a 'decent' WR with the 36th roookie pick. You have put together a decent team, but it looks like without having a clearcut #1 WR your WR corps will be your achilles' heel all year.

I'm 6 players ahead of most owners (most have only 15 players, I have 21) and most of them only have a couple of IDPs wheres I'm all set w/ them for the most part... I think their going to play catch up w/ the IDPs early.. so theres a good chance for me to get something decent w/ #36.

Not even a contest.I voted B.

name recoginition guy.. can't even justify why he thinks Team B is better after I throw the #s out there. read post #9 & #13 Bud.. quote them and tell me why Team B is better.

I was actually just joking. In my IDP league Ware outscored Morrison by 1 point and in yours Morrison punked Ware, the descrepencies in scoring from league to league may have something to do with the poll numbers. I own Morrison and Hope in my IDP and don't own any of team B's players. Here's my mini breakdown:Kampman > Schoebel (Younger, I like both players)Matthis = Freeney (I only say this because it's dynasty and people are always high on Freeney, you could probaly get more in a trade for Freeney, but Mathis will get you more points, easily)Morrison >>>>>> Any of team B's LBS in your scoring systemThe rest of the LBs wash out in my mind with Vilma being a high risk/reward playerHope >>>>> ReedCalm down, I like Team A by quite a bit, you're inviting a win by team B in the poll because you're getting so upset.

 

[KRANG]

You better hope that other owners take vets if you are banking on getting a 'decent' WR with the 36th roookie pick. You have put together a decent team, but it looks like without having a clearcut #1 WR your WR corps will be your achilles' heel all year.

I'm 6 players ahead of most owners (most have only 15 players, I have 21) and most of them only have a couple of IDPs wheres I'm all set w/ them for the most part... I think their going to play catch up w/ the IDPs early.. so theres a good chance for me to get something decent w/ #36.

Probably not the place for this (being the IDP forum and all). I think you loading up that much on the IDPs might hurt you in the long run. Having a 6 player lead is a nice advantage, but if you used all those picks for Def. players then not sure how much it'll help. I'd rather take a flier on a 18th round LB than a 18th round WR any day. I'd be interested in seeing the teams later - I think you posted that you'll have the 2nd 1/2 of the draft soon?

 

[KellysHeroes]

You better hope that other owners take vets if you are banking on getting a 'decent' WR with the 36th roookie pick. You have put together a decent team, but it looks like without having a clearcut #1 WR your WR corps will be your achilles' heel all year.

I'm 6 players ahead of most owners (most have only 15 players, I have 21) and most of them only have a couple of IDPs wheres I'm all set w/ them for the most part... I think their going to play catch up w/ the IDPs early.. so theres a good chance for me to get something decent w/ #36.

Probably not the place for this (being the IDP forum and all). I think you loading up that much on the IDPs might hurt you in the long run. Having a 6 player lead is a nice advantage, but if you used all those picks for Def. players then not sure how much it'll help. I'd rather take a flier on a 18th round LB than a 18th round WR any day. I'd be interested in seeing the teams later - I think you posted that you'll have the 2nd 1/2 of the draft soon?

I draft 13 Offense and 8 IDPs.. well not drafted, I did a couple of trades afterwards. Thats about a 2 too 1 ratioHeres the other rosters http://football8.myfantasyleague.com/2007/...=55418&O=07

I say I'm top 5 and B is top 3. Team A is NO MA'AM and Team B is Little Big Head

edit

Team A made the following trade

Benevolent Suns gave up Rhodes, Kerry NYJ S ; Year 2007 Draft Pick 17.02

Team A gave up Williams, Demetrius BAL WR;Hope, Chris TEN S

My most wanted IDPer; #2 dynasty ranked IDPer and I love the J - E - T- S