Which teams will surrender FF pts to D's? (1 Viewer)

[Dirty Weasel]

Defense is almost undoubtably the most reliant position on its opponent each week. Knowing which teams will give up the most FF points to defenses can be a major advantage. Currently, here is how Clayton Gray (FBG expert) sees it:

1 - Raiders

2 - 49ers

3 - Chiefs

4 - Lions

5 - Titans

6 - Cardinals

7 - Ravens

8 - Bills

9 - Bears

10 - Rams

Do you see it the same way?

 

[FantasyTrader]

Defense is almost undoubtably the most reliant position on its opponent each week. Knowing which teams will give up the most FF points to defenses can be a major advantage. Currently, here is how Clayton Gray (FBG expert) sees it:1 - Raiders2 - 49ers3 - Chiefs4 - Lions5 - Titans6 - Cardinals7 - Ravens8 - Bills9 - Bears10 - RamsDo you see it the same way?

Cards won't be in the top 10 - they've upgraded their O-line significantly. Also, not that the Lions will be an offensive juggernaut or anything, but it's been reported they'll be running a much more conventional offense this year. Take that however you will, but I don't think the Lions will be in the top 5 of "giving away" defensive pts. The rest are tough to argue with though.

 

[Dirty Weasel]

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[a_troll00]

The Falcons should absolutely be in the top 5 of this list. Especially if they start Matt Ryan right away.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Defense is almost undoubtably the most reliant position on its opponent each week. Knowing which teams will give up the most FF points to defenses can be a major advantage. Currently, here is how Clayton Gray (FBG expert) sees it:1 - Raiders2 - 49ers3 - Chiefs4 - Lions5 - Titans6 - Cardinals7 - Ravens8 - Bills9 - Bears10 - RamsDo you see it the same way?

Cards won't be in the top 10 - they've upgraded their O-line significantly. Also, not that the Lions will be an offensive juggernaut or anything, but it's been reported they'll be running a much more conventional offense this year. Take that however you will, but I don't think the Lions will be in the top 5 of "giving away" defensive pts. The rest are tough to argue with though.

Ohh I disagree sir. The 49ers/Cardinals game last year made a believer out of me...Matt Leinart is TERRIBLE. Bad quarterback=good for opposing fantasy defenses.To the OP:The first thing you have to consider is a team with bad quarterback play:I don't see the Raiders being so high on the list. Fargas, McFadden, Walker, Curry--unless Russell is just god awful, they won't be that bad.I like the Rams offense alot once they're all healthy.You don't put the Dolphins on this list? Or the Falcons? Bears have who? If you're looking for defensive fantasy teams based on matchups--Rex Grossman is your dream come-true.1. 49ers2. Bears3. Falcons4. Dolphins5. Cardinals6. Lions7. Jets8. Bills---yup 3 from NFC E9. Raiders--Since Russell's an unknown10. Seattle. No more all-pro running backs. Deion Branch may miss a good chunk of the season, Hackett bolted--they're hurting for playmakers.

 

[sholditch]

Defense is almost undoubtably the most reliant position on its opponent each week. Knowing which teams will give up the most FF points to defenses can be a major advantage. Currently, here is how Clayton Gray (FBG expert) sees it:1 - Raiders2 - 49ers3 - Chiefs4 - Lions5 - Titans6 - Cardinals7 - Ravens8 - Bills9 - Bears10 - RamsDo you see it the same way?

assuming this is about which offenses will give up the most points, I would go with:.1. ATL: Ryan threw a bunch of ints against ACC defenses. I predict a 20-int season for him if he starts every game.2. Raiders: not the best pass-protecting line out there, rookie (essentially) QB who did not come into minis in shape, most likely a rook RB carrying the load. There should be TOs aplenty.3. Bears: We don't have the line to run every down, and simple math on Rex is about one int for every 10 minutes consecutively on the field. If Orton starts, it's an int for every 15 minutes on the field. Also, another rook RB carrying the load.4. Miami: Henne, McCown, or Beck. nufced5. Lions: Kitna throws a bunch of ints and a rook likely to carry the load at RB.6. 49ers: Alex Smith + Mike Martz = 23+ ints for Smith 7. Carolina: I don't think Delhomme will be healthy, therefore, turmoil at QB once again.8. Minnesota: You can't run every play and Jackson has a new crop of receivers to deal with. 9. Rams: That o-line is going to be run over again10. New York Jets: Probably one of the more overlooked disaster areas on offense this offseason. Thomas Jones isn't getting better and they are flipping a coin to determine who takes 1st team reps at QB. When one side of that flip is Pennington, you are in serious trouble.Teams that I don't think will be all that bad offensively:Tennessee: Fisher is one of the best coaches in the NFL and loves a strong ground game. I think we see less ints from Young and more rushing yards, rushing TDs. CJ3 will do a lot for the versatility of this attack.Baltimore: What's not to like about Cam Cameron working with McGahee. The Ravens will look to their bell-cow to soften the blow of starting Smith/Flacco.Buffalo: Lynch will be the main offensive weapon here, while Edwards will play a control-centered game. They bolstered an already good defense with Stroud, and will get Posluszny back which will help at LB. They also addressed the D early in the draft, and hopefully this will keep games close enough to where they don't have to abandon their ground game.Kansas City: I think Albert and Dorsey will pay immediate dividends, and I expect a better year from LJ. Croyle will struggle early, but Huard is a capable game manager if they fall flat on their face.Cards: Warner will come in if Leinart struggles out of the gate.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

 

[sholditch]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Matt Ryan's massive contract makes him the leading candidate to start for the Falcons in Week 1.Ryan, as the No. 3 overall pick, actually got more than top pick Jake Long, who has to be feeling a bit slighted right now. Ryan's is the third largest deal in league history. He can't mail it in during training camp, but it sounds like Atlanta has every intention of inserting him as quickly as possible.

Hmmm, Adam Schefter vs FantasyTrader...who to beleive...

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

 

[sholditch]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

Glad to see I'm not the only one by this post.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Matt Ryan's massive contract makes him the leading candidate to start for the Falcons in Week 1.Ryan, as the No. 3 overall pick, actually got more than top pick Jake Long, who has to be feeling a bit slighted right now. Ryan's is the third largest deal in league history. He can't mail it in during training camp, but it sounds like Atlanta has every intention of inserting him as quickly as possible.

Hmmm, Adam Schefter vs FantasyTrader...who to beleive...

Believe who you will. I don't think there's any way in he** Ryan sees the field this year until Atlanta is ready to wave the white flag. The Falcons are one of my sleeper offenses this year and it has a great deal to do with Chris Redman and Roddy White's December performance while everyone's backs were turned (and nothing to do with Matt Ryan). We'll see. It's only my opinion but I'm surprised my statement is that confusing to people.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Matt Ryan's massive contract makes him the leading candidate to start for the Falcons in Week 1.Ryan, as the No. 3 overall pick, actually got more than top pick Jake Long, who has to be feeling a bit slighted right now. Ryan's is the third largest deal in league history. He can't mail it in during training camp, but it sounds like Atlanta has every intention of inserting him as quickly as possible.

Hmmm, Adam Schefter vs FantasyTrader...who to beleive...

Believe who you will. I don't think there's any way in he** Ryan sees the field this year until Atlanta is ready to wave the white flag. The Falcons are one of my sleeper offenses this year and it has a great deal to do with Chris Redman and Roddy White's December performance while everyone's backs were turned (and nothing to do with Matt Ryan). We'll see. It's only my opinion but I'm surprised my statement is that confusing to people.

I agree with you on this one. Seems every other franchise has their QB sitting on opening day, and most all of if not all season their rookie year. But, Matt Ryan starts from day 1?

 

[Rodhands]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Matt Ryan's massive contract makes him the leading candidate to start for the Falcons in Week 1.Ryan, as the No. 3 overall pick, actually got more than top pick Jake Long, who has to be feeling a bit slighted right now. Ryan's is the third largest deal in league history. He can't mail it in during training camp, but it sounds like Atlanta has every intention of inserting him as quickly as possible.

Hmmm, Adam Schefter vs FantasyTrader...who to beleive...

Believe who you will. I don't think there's any way in he** Ryan sees the field this year until Atlanta is ready to wave the white flag. The Falcons are one of my sleeper offenses this year and it has a great deal to do with Chris Redman and Roddy White's December performance while everyone's backs were turned (and nothing to do with Matt Ryan). We'll see. It's only my opinion but I'm surprised my statement is that confusing to people.

I agree with you on this one. Seems every other franchise has their QB sitting on opening day, and most all of if not all season their rookie year. But, Matt Ryan starts from day 1?

as an ATL fan i think Blank sees what happened to Manning in Indi and thinks to himself "hmm i wants me a bit o that!" best believe Blank will be pressuring for Ryan to start from the beginning even if it does mean a 1-15 season (we are certain to beat our Div Rivals atleast once)

 

[sholditch]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Matt Ryan's massive contract makes him the leading candidate to start for the Falcons in Week 1.Ryan, as the No. 3 overall pick, actually got more than top pick Jake Long, who has to be feeling a bit slighted right now. Ryan's is the third largest deal in league history. He can't mail it in during training camp, but it sounds like Atlanta has every intention of inserting him as quickly as possible.

Hmmm, Adam Schefter vs FantasyTrader...who to beleive...

Believe who you will. I don't think there's any way in he** Ryan sees the field this year until Atlanta is ready to wave the white flag. The Falcons are one of my sleeper offenses this year and it has a great deal to do with Chris Redman and Roddy White's December performance while everyone's backs were turned (and nothing to do with Matt Ryan). We'll see. It's only my opinion but I'm surprised my statement is that confusing to people.

It's not so much as we're confused by your statement as confused to why you would say it because it makes so little sense in reality. But good luck with that, really.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Matt Ryan's massive contract makes him the leading candidate to start for the Falcons in Week 1.Ryan, as the No. 3 overall pick, actually got more than top pick Jake Long, who has to be feeling a bit slighted right now. Ryan's is the third largest deal in league history. He can't mail it in during training camp, but it sounds like Atlanta has every intention of inserting him as quickly as possible.

Hmmm, Adam Schefter vs FantasyTrader...who to beleive...

Believe who you will. I don't think there's any way in he** Ryan sees the field this year until Atlanta is ready to wave the white flag. The Falcons are one of my sleeper offenses this year and it has a great deal to do with Chris Redman and Roddy White's December performance while everyone's backs were turned (and nothing to do with Matt Ryan). We'll see. It's only my opinion but I'm surprised my statement is that confusing to people.

I agree with you on this one. Seems every other franchise has their QB sitting on opening day, and most all of if not all season their rookie year. But, Matt Ryan starts from day 1?

as an ATL fan i think Blank sees what happened to Manning in Indi and thinks to himself "hmm i wants me a bit o that!" best believe Blank will be pressuring for Ryan to start from the beginning even if it does mean a 1-15 season (we are certain to beat our Div Rivals atleast once)

Why do you think that though? I guess most owners and or gms would think "i wants me a bit o that", but they almost always bench the qb for a year.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Matt Ryan's massive contract makes him the leading candidate to start for the Falcons in Week 1.Ryan, as the No. 3 overall pick, actually got more than top pick Jake Long, who has to be feeling a bit slighted right now. Ryan's is the third largest deal in league history. He can't mail it in during training camp, but it sounds like Atlanta has every intention of inserting him as quickly as possible.

Hmmm, Adam Schefter vs FantasyTrader...who to beleive...

I really do respect Schefter as a reporter, BUT, look at all the other quarterbacks that were the 1st of the position taken in their respective draft. They too had massive contracts....they too sat a year. The reasoning just doesn't really suggest what everyone seems to make it suggest

 

[sholditch]

Yeah, let's look at that:

2007: JaMarcus Russell held out past training camp and therefore didn't start until late in the season

2006: Young starts week 4, Leinart starts week 5, Cutler starts week 13 on a winning team with a former Pro-Bowl QB

2005: Smith starts in week 5

2004: Eli starts week 11 from behind Warner, Pro-bowler, Superbowl champ; Rivers sits behind Brees for the entire year; Roeth plays in week 2, starts in week 3 after Maddox is injured

so recent history shows that more often than not, high-drafted QBs play a significant amount of time their rookie year. Considering that Ryan's competition is a complete bust and a 6-year backup, my money is on him starting by week 4 if not on opening day.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Matt Ryan's massive contract makes him the leading candidate to start for the Falcons in Week 1.Ryan, as the No. 3 overall pick, actually got more than top pick Jake Long, who has to be feeling a bit slighted right now. Ryan's is the third largest deal in league history. He can't mail it in during training camp, but it sounds like Atlanta has every intention of inserting him as quickly as possible.

Hmmm, Adam Schefter vs FantasyTrader...who to beleive...

Believe who you will. I don't think there's any way in he** Ryan sees the field this year until Atlanta is ready to wave the white flag. The Falcons are one of my sleeper offenses this year and it has a great deal to do with Chris Redman and Roddy White's December performance while everyone's backs were turned (and nothing to do with Matt Ryan). We'll see. It's only my opinion but I'm surprised my statement is that confusing to people.

It's not so much as we're confused by your statement as confused to why you would say it because it makes so little sense in reality. But good luck with that, really.

The career backup you're referring to, closed out '07 starting 4 of the 5 games (and playing the majority of the 5th). He completed 60% of his passes while tossing 10:5 TD:INT ratio. The NFL is littered with QB's who struggled early in the career and the light bulb came on shortly after the team gives up and drafts a highly coveted rookie behind them. I don't think I'm going way out on a limb, thinking the Falcons give Redman a shot to build on his late-season success with Roddy White. At least not as much of limb as, "Ryan is a highly drafted rookie and they're paying him a buttload of money - so it's pretty much his job by default". I could be wrong - you do bring up a very good point regarding the history of highly drafted QB's finding the lineup in year #1.

Can you explain WHY you believe my line of thinking has no basis in reality?

 

[sholditch]

Excuse my inner smartass, but I can give you 72 million reasons ;-)

Seriously, here are the reasons:

1. 1st overall pick

2. Falcons owner and management are desperate to put as much space as they can between the team and the Vick era as quickly as possible, and last year's awful team was part of that era

3. It took him half a season to convince the coaches he was better than Joey Harrington, and Petrino knows a thing or two about QBs.

4. Most likely, Falcons mgmt/fanbase knows they are not in the playoff hunt this year—line is a mess, rookie QB, first-time starter at RB, so there will be pressure to get Ryan ready for year two sooner rather than later

5. 4 good games in six years does not make someone an NFL starter

ETA: It was the "he won't start any games" part of the statement that I found completely unrealistic

 

[SugarNuts]

Excuse my inner smartass, but I can give you 72 million reasons ;-)Seriously, here are the reasons:1. 1st overall pick2. Falcons owner and management are desperate to put as much space as they can between the team and the Vick era as quickly as possible, and last year's awful team was part of that era3. It took him half a season to convince the coaches he was better than Joey Harrington, and Petrino knows a thing or two about QBs.4. Most likely, Falcons mgmt/fanbase knows they are not in the playoff hunt this year—line is a mess, rookie QB, first-time starter at RB, so there will be pressure to get Ryan ready for year two sooner rather than later5. 4 good games in six years does not make someone an NFL starterETA: It was the "he won't start any games" part of the statement that I found completely unrealistic

3rd overall pick... 1st for Atlanta.

 

[SugarNuts]

Ryan won't be starting any game, let alone every game.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Matt Ryan's massive contract makes him the leading candidate to start for the Falcons in Week 1.Ryan, as the No. 3 overall pick, actually got more than top pick Jake Long, who has to be feeling a bit slighted right now. Ryan's is the third largest deal in league history. He can't mail it in during training camp, but it sounds like Atlanta has every intention of inserting him as quickly as possible.

Hmmm, Adam Schefter vs FantasyTrader...who to beleive...

Believe who you will. I don't think there's any way in he** Ryan sees the field this year until Atlanta is ready to wave the white flag. The Falcons are one of my sleeper offenses this year and it has a great deal to do with Chris Redman and Roddy White's December performance while everyone's backs were turned (and nothing to do with Matt Ryan). We'll see. It's only my opinion but I'm surprised my statement is that confusing to people.

But you said he wont be starting ANY game, and now youre saying he will start a game if ATL is completely out of it? In other words, you DO think Ryan will start at SOME point this year...

 

[FantasyTrader]

Excuse my inner smartass, but I can give you 72 million reasons ;-)

Seriously, here are the reasons:

1. 1st overall pick

2. Falcons owner and management are desperate to put as much space as they can between the team and the Vick era as quickly as possible, and last year's awful team was part of that era

3. It took him half a season to convince the coaches he was better than Joey Harrington, and Petrino knows a thing or two about QBs.

4. Most likely, Falcons mgmt/fanbase knows they are not in the playoff hunt this year—line is a mess, rookie QB, first-time starter at RB, so there will be pressure to get Ryan ready for year two sooner rather than later

5. 4 good games in six years does not make someone an NFL starter

ETA: It was the "he won't start any games" part of the statement that I found completely unrealistic

Yeah, I'll admit the "won't start ANY game" comment was probably over the top. I just felt strong disagreement toward your initial comment of: ATL: Ryan threw a bunch of ints against ACC defenses. I predict a 20-int season for him if he starts every game.Because I just don't feel that what Ryan does will have much of an impact this year. At least it shouldn't. If you want to take a large step in the direction of alienating your team then Blank would be headed in the right directions of making sure Ryan starts because, hey...we've gotta get this dead year out of the way. (Ask Strahan and Coughlin how that works out).

Regarding #1 - We agree. There's always pressure to get first rounders on the field.

#2 - We disagree. Vick being in jail puts space between them and the Vick era. Not what they do with the current roster.

#3 - We agree. Petrino is a great talent evaluator. But Redman wouldn't be the first NFL player that looks like a dog in practice but somehow find's "it" on Sundays.

#4 - We REALLY disagree. There are several valid reasons to get Ryan started on the learning curve. The "we're gonna suck anyway" point isn't one of them. It's very transparent to the veterans on the team and tends to divide locker rooms.

#5 - We kinda agree. You see 4 good games in 6 years. I see 4 good games in 4 games. I'll agree 4 games doesn't make a starter if you agree 4 good games is worth an additional look. Bottom line: I think Redman deserves at least September. If he falls flat on his face then, by all means, usher in the Matt Ryan era.

Or I'll also admit there's a slim possibility Ryan flat out outplays Redman in TC and he simply shows too much talent to keep off of the field. I highly doubt that's the case but we need to account for that as well.