Which young QB would you rather have for the future? (1 Viewer)

[hephner]

I chose this list mostly consisting of players expected to start within a year or two, although a few may have a longer road, and I excluded young QBs that are either starters already, or highly expected to start by mid-season (ie. Russell & Quinn).

But based on situation & potential, who do you see as the best long-term value?

Also, for whoever you choose, explain when you expect them to take over the starting spot for their respective team. Who might have a chance to start by the end of this season or by week 1 next year?

 

[hephner]

Lots of votes so far, but no responses.

Anyone care to comment on why they chose who they did?

I'm surprised we haven't seen a few more Kellen Clemens votes. I see him in a fairly similar situation compared to Stanton who is tied for the lead, despite being IR'ed this year. They both have established starters ahead of them, but I think Stanton will have a longer road if Kitna continues to be successful, and now he'll have a year less time to develop too. Pennington has been known to get dinged up or worse, and if Clemens gets an opportunity to start at some point this season or next, I think he may keep the job.

However, I voted for Beck, personally. I think he'll be the starter in Miami by the end of the year. Green is done, IMO. They really need to shore up that o-line, but if they can do that in the next year or two, Beck could become a very successful QB. He'll have some good talent around him, and he'll be a home run threat throwing that deep ball to Chambers & Ginn.

 

[Bears_Man2]

IMO It's between Beck and Clemens. Beck will get his shot first IMO (by the end of the season). If the Jets are marginal this year, you could see Clemens next year.

I like Boller more than Smith myself now and for the future. (I question whether Troy will ever be given the reigns, while I can see a couple scenarios where Boller gets a shot).

Here's ranked 1-7:

1) Beck

2) Clemens

3) Stanton

4) Edwards

5) Rodgers (Favre for 1 more season after 2007. Not sold on Rodgers himself. IMO He's on a short leash if he is eventually handed the reigns)

6) Kolb (I see McNabb there for another 3-4 years)

7) Smith (Never see him annointed the starter)

 

[Colin Dowling]

Kyle Boller has had his chance. He'll be a FA at the end of the year IIRC and while Smith may never be the starter, Kyle Boller won't be either.

 

[Tommy Collins]

I picked Kolb just because of the situation. McNabb is getting older and seems to be starting to break down with his injuries the past few years. Seems like Kolb is having a good camp and I like the Philly system they have there. If something happens to McNabb this year, Kolb could steal the job. I wouldn't expect much this year if he ends up starting but if he shows good poise it may definitely turn into a QB controversy next year. I cannot seem to find the NFLPA website anymore so I cannot check McNabb's contract but I believe his contract is running out. That could lead to another reason why they decide to get rid of McNabb / let him go and move forward with Kolb.

My next pick would be Drew Stanton. A Mike Martz offense with Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson, Tatum Bell, Kevin Jones... the weapons are there. Kitna is up there in age and sooner or later Stanton is going to get his shot. With him being on IR it's obviously not going to be this year. But that may be a good thing as he gets to sit on the sideline and learn from Kitna. Playing experience is a great thing but throwing a QB into the fire is disastrous.

Third would be Rodgers... we've been waiting for some time for him to get his chance. And I feel bad for those guys who drafted him in dynasty leagues as a rookie and still waiting to see him in action. This is probably Favre's last year. And if so, we'll finally get to see what the kid has got. He's definitely learning from one of the best QBs the game has seen and has carried a clipboard long enough. He'll probably be a little antsy at first to make plays after watching someone else make them for so long, but I think he'll do fine. The situation is what scares me a bit though. The OL isn't the same, the RBs are probably the worst in the league. For a player to be successful he has to be talented AND be in the right situation. That's why I'd rather go with Kolb and Stanton. They have both. I don't think GB is a great situation. I may get burned on this, but it's what my gut is telling me and I'm stickin with it.

Troy Smith is in Baltimore and I don't see him making much noise there for some time. Even so, they will rely on the running game and defense like always to win them the games and try to limit his throwing.

Trent Edwards has looked very good in Buffalo. But it's JP Losman's job and I don't see him losing it. He had a great 2nd half last year and looks to finally be turning into the QB that Buffalo (and a few of us here) thought he would be. He's not being thrown under the bus anymore but still a bit under the radar. I wouldn't expect to see him in the game unless it's a blowout (not likely) or Losman gets injured (which is possible since he's pretty mobile).

I'm not high on Chad Pennington at all but I don't see him losing his job anytime soon. However, if he injures that shoulder again it's pretty safe to say his career could be over. Three torn rotator cuffs has to be nearly impossible to recover from as a QB.

I know absolutely nothing about Beck. Only what I've read here. I can't seem to find any scouting reports on him other than that he has a fantastic arm. I don't think Green has what it takes anymore and we haven't really seen much of Clemon. I really don't know much about him so I can't get too excited. I'll have to catch some Phins preseason games in order to make a better judgment.

 

[Bears_Man2]

Kyle Boller has had his chance. He'll be a FA at the end of the year IIRC and while Smith may never be the starter, Kyle Boller won't be either.

I didn't say he'd necesarily be a starter in Balt (fully aware he's a FA). He looked solid in partial duty last year. It'd only take a McNair injury to once again enhance his value. I do believe Boller has a better shot of eventually starting somewhere. (if either is ever to start)

 

[hephner]

I know absolutely nothing about Beck. Only what I've read here. I can't seem to find any scouting reports on him other than that he has a fantastic arm. I don't think Green has what it takes anymore and we haven't really seen much of Clemon. I really don't know much about him so I can't get too excited. I'll have to catch some Phins preseason games in order to make a better judgment.

From Rotoworld.comJohn Beck's 2007 Player Profile2006: Beck has brilliant arm strength and mobility but lacks the body build and strength necessary to hold up for 16 games. A four-year starter at BYU, Beck completed 69 percent of his passes as a senior. He was 25 years old when he was drafted.What’s Changed: Miami drafted Beck in the second round rather than take Brady Quinn in the first. As a rookie, he’s expected to compete for the backup job with Cleo Lemon.Outlook: Beck’s experience and age give him an edge over most rookies. Don’t be surprised if he gets a few starts at the end of the season.Updated Jul. 27: Dolphins’ coaches are impressed with John Beck’s skills early in camp. The rookie QB has reportedly shown a quick release, accurate arm and a strong desire to learn. Beck seems likely to pass Cleo Lemon to become Trent Green's top backup by mid-season and will be the eventual successor to Green.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

I picked Rodgers. He and Stanton are the only ones I'd really consider.

Rodgers is the only one with a > 50% chance of getting a starting job. That alone counts for a lot. When you factor in that he will have had three years to learn behind one of the best QB's in history and that he's the only first rounder of the bunch, you have to like his chances.

Stanton, meanwhile, has a lot of upside as the probable (but not certain) future starter of the Lions. Training by Martz + throwin to Roy/Calvin is about as much upside as you can get.

Clemens is backing up a decent and not-old QB, as is Edwards.

Kolb is backing up a superstar and not-old QB.

Troy Smith was basically an after-thought in the draft. He's in a mediocre offense, and he has Boller in front of him.

John Beck is already 27 years old (EDIT: my mistake, he's 26) on a very mediocre offeense. He probably has the best shot at getting a starting job though, after Rodgers and Stanton.

So I'd probably go:

Rodgers

Stanton

Beck

everybody else

 

[steelcityman]

I dont think there is one decent starter in that group. Rogers might be serviceable, but GB will be looking for a new QB after his first season as starter.

 

[cstu]

IMO It's between Beck and Clemens. Beck will get his shot first IMO (by the end of the season). If the Jets are marginal this year, you could see Clemens next year.I like Boller more than Smith myself now and for the future. (I question whether Troy will ever be given the reigns, while I can see a couple scenarios where Boller gets a shot).Here's ranked 1-7:1) Beck2) Clemens3) Stanton 4) Edwards5) Rodgers (Favre for 1 more season after 2007. Not sold on Rodgers himself. IMO He's on a short leash if he is eventually handed the reigns)6) Kolb (I see McNabb there for another 3-4 years)7) Smith (Never see him annointed the starter)

Beck should be #1 considering he's got the best shot at starting this year. I think it's a toss up between Clemens and Stanton, but you could give Stanton the edge because of his weapons. Edwards is a good QB, but I don't see him starting anytime soon. The same goes for Kolb although with McNabb's injury history he has a better shot than Edwards, not to mention a better team.Rodgers I don't like much at all and he might not even be the starting QB after Favre. Troy Smith has a better shot at starting than Boller, who shouldn't even be considered starting material.

 

[hephner]

I dont think there is one decent starter in that group. Rogers might be serviceable, but GB will be looking for a new QB after his first season as starter.

Would you have listed other QBs then? Decent starting QBs have to come from somewhere. When some of the older QBs move on, get hurt, or hit a downslide (McNair, T. Green, Favre [retire], etc) some of these guys have a very good chance of becoming the starters. Sure, most of them weren't highly hyped 1st rounders, but I don't see how could dismiss the entire group. You don't think there will be more successful QBs to come out of the last couple years draft classes besides Young, Leinart, Cutler, Russell, & Quinn?

 

[hephner]

Interesting news that was just posted on Rotoworld.com:

Aaron Rodgers-QB- Packers Aug. 13 - 4:10 pm et

Packers GM Ted Thompson implied Monday that Aaron Rodgers' chance to start may not come in Green Bay.

Thompson was asked about Rodgers' development. "The proof is still in the pudding," he said. "When he finally gets that shot to take over a team, whether it's this team or somewhere else..." The Packers may like Rodgers as a backup, but it's uncertain whether he'll ever get the full-time reigns.

 

[tebuckey]

I went with Kolb, not so much because of him, but because Andy Reid seems to have a knack of getting good play out of his qbs. I think there is an option in McNabbs contract after 2008 at which point if he is too expensive, I could see them letting him go.

 

[hephner]

I went with Kolb, not so much because of him, but because Andy Reid seems to have a knack of getting good play out of his qbs. I think there is an option in McNabbs contract after 2008 at which point if he is too expensive, I could see them letting him go.

Looks like you're right:Contract Information for Donovan McNabb2007: $5.5 million, 2008: $6.3 million, 2009: $9.2 million (club option)However, according to NFLPA, some QBs with contracts (or options) signed through and including 2009, are as follows. Manning - $14 milBrees - $9.8 mil E. Manning - $8.95 milPalmer - $9.5 milVick - $9.0 milFavre - $13 mil (but I highly doubt he will still be playing by then, let alone at that price)So if he stays healthy, I could see them exercising the option, since it will be on par with some of the other top QBs by then.

 

[Tommy Collins]

I went with Kolb, not so much because of him, but because Andy Reid seems to have a knack of getting good play out of his qbs. I think there is an option in McNabbs contract after 2008 at which point if he is too expensive, I could see them letting him go.

Looks like you're right:Contract Information for Donovan McNabb2007: $5.5 million, 2008: $6.3 million, 2009: $9.2 million (club option)However, according to NFLPA, some QBs with contracts (or options) signed through and including 2009, are as follows. Manning - $14 milBrees - $9.8 mil E. Manning - $8.95 milPalmer - $9.5 milVick - $9.0 milFavre - $13 mil (but I highly doubt he will still be playing by then, let alone at that price)So if he stays healthy, I could see them exercising the option, since it will be on par with some of the other top QBs by then.

That might be the issue, if he's healthy... I'm a big McNabb fan and hope he gets through the season with no injuries.. but I can't say I'd bet on it. If McNabb goes down this year or next and Kolb looks good, they may go with the kid. I agree with tebuckey as my previous post indicates

 

[-OZ-]

John Beck is already 27 years old (EDIT: my mistake, he's 26) on a very mediocre offeense. He probably has the best shot at getting a starting job though, after Rodgers and Stanton.

The offense is mediocre in large part to the poor QB play. The parts are there to make a good offense.Chambers, Booker and Ginn are solid WRs or at least have the potential to be.Brown can be a good RBThe OL isn't horribleWho cares if he's 27? Good QBs can play well into their 30's and I wouldn't look further than 3 years when drafting a rookie anyway. Enough bust that I'm just not worried about this. If the fin's organization wasn't worried, neither am I. Stanton has the best upside, but Beck is most likely to be a decent QB2, maybe better.